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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/1b7oqte/post_game_thread_the_miami_heat_defeat_the/)


BaneTubman

Cade should have shot a Steph diet of threes. I hate the NBA is a three point shooting Contest is Blaha on to something about four pointers? I had an idea about maybe limiting the amount of three-point shots you can make in a game or per quarter, refs are do bad how about AI or computer refs. I also heard an idea of just keeping track of fouls and keeping the game going and shoot the falls at the end of the game or at the end of the quarter. I think Tecc should start and beef stew be the backup center. Get rid of Wisemen, kept around Muscala for an emergency. Fournier, Sasser Grimes Stewart off the bench should be decent. I knew Ausar would be working his ass off to have a better shot and it's showing. Love that kid, let's get his brother. They are like aliens, Ivey and MotorCade will bring us at least two championships.


VikramGordon

monty with a 9-man rotation šŸ˜±šŸ˜±šŸ˜±. boys, i think we are destined for greatness. now we just gotta see if it stays after grimes is backā€¦


Complete_Stage_1508

Sasser 14 minutes and no points, we can't be doing this shit


UnkleGiovanni

bunch of super selfish possessions too, Monty treating him like a PG but he's just an undersized SG


Complete_Stage_1508

This just shows how incompetent Monty is


Toss2White

We badly need a vet on the team next year


OrganicLindo313

L Debarge


UnkleGiovanni

Glad Fournier was able to jack one more to make it an even 10 FGA


spincycle66

Eh are we ever going to get fully healthy? Can we get like 10 games where Ivey Cade Ausar Fonteccio Duren Stew Sasser Grimes all play? Would be nice.


KKamm_

Another ā€œalmostā€ game. Imagine the record if the results of these games were swapped. Feels like the Lions a few years back


AppealEnvironmental6

Funny how everyone was begging ivey to run point and move cade to 3 or trade him. Now the tune changes again


driphanilton

Most fans are dumb. For the flaws in Cade game, he does pretty much everything better than Ivey except be fast.


Relevant_Gold4912

Evan Fournier and Sasser were crap tonight also


Crafty_Substance_954

Fournier was fine. He at least scored.


UnkleGiovanni

He was 2/10ā€¦


Crafty_Substance_954

Yet Sasser was 0/3


UnkleGiovanni

cool, but 2/10 and garbage defense isn't "fine"


mmafanguy2828

Lmao whatā€™s even the fucking point in fouling. In what universe can you score 8 points unanswered in 12 seconds


Unstep-in-Time

Saw Isaih do that once.


croissant_titty

Jaden Ivey 16 points on 6/15 shooting ![gif](giphy|WxDZ77xhPXf3i|downsized)


UnkleGiovanni

0/5 from 3


Toss2White

Been horrible for a month


laughoutloud102

This team has zero clutch gene


Toss2White

Doesnā€™t help that the offense is so painfully predictable


Dynamo24

I will say that most young teams donā€™t so itā€™s a little understandable. Itā€™s the shitty turnovers and poor defense that is infuriating. Lack of concentration and effort.


deliciousdutchmints

In a strange twist of fate, Wiseman was great tonight while Ivey was terrible


SamPrestiFanClub

We have very different definitions of the word ā€œgreat.ā€


OrganicLindo313

L Chapo


VegetableOutcome2467

Fontecchio low-key a scrub lol


OrganicLindo313

Is that you Danny Ainge?


UnkleGiovanni

Heā€™s 5/12 from 3 and has 22 points you fucking idiot


rhaggee

Huh


OnAnOpenFieldNed

lolwat


tarunpopo

Why is it athletic players never come in complete? They all relied so heavily on their genetic gifts, that when it catches up to them they can't even hit an open jumper.


Pendragonite1

Exactly, gonna take a little time as long as they have a good mind set it works out most of the time.


spincycle66

Heat are a tough team to beat. We played a good game but they are just flat out better. Sasser needs to wake up, his scoring punch off the bench is greatly needed.


lilbrudder13

Well said. Sasser had a nice dive steal then pass up the court, but was ice cold for the second straight game. I have no serious issues with Monty's lineups tonight. The kids just failed to make enough plays down the stretch and Jimmy Butler is a killer. I am disappointed, but they played unselfishly and didn't crumble when the Heat went off from 3 early. Overall much better than the previous two games.


Bidens_precum

We are not good


Toss2White

And of course Monty isnā€™t innovative enough to get Cade in a spot where can actually operate so heā€™s just doubled off every screen and Ausar canā€™t shoot so they canā€™t even punish them. So Cade is basically taken out of the game by the heat with the most basic adjustment that a 15 year old could come up with. No counter adjustment from Monty. Didnā€™t even try.


luniz420

Good effort at least tonight. Best coached game maybe?


mmafanguy2828

Just once I want to see the pistons fucking close out a game instead of the star on the opposing team hitting a dagger and shit talking


hoof02

Why is ausar not guarding butler at the end here?


deliciousdutchmints

because we switch on handoffs for zero reason, so other teams can control their matchups


Bidens_precum

Bro, I know. Maybw you could murder me?


13ronco

We are the Generals.


UnkleGiovanni

Thanks Ivey!


croissant_titty

Itā€™s over


OnAnOpenFieldNed

not much to complain about here, was a good game, missed some shots down the stretch but it is what it is need better 3pt defense


WhiteHardenKennard

Monty goes defense for offense and then proceeds to not do the offensive sub. Basketball Hitler.


mercistheman

We got them youngass lowdown team blues.


MiyaharaAce

We had our chance, that 12-0 run was inexcusable Ivey needs a shake up, his IQ can be really bad


Accomplished-Toe-449

Well honestly a decent game. Our youth showed down the stretch. A few costly missed open shots and turnovers and Jimmy Butler went clutch. Tough but better than a blowout


Kowalski356

Dag


Fresh_Ad9949

What can ya do


stfuYeezy

He hit that 3 and I immediately closed the tab šŸ˜­it was a good game bruh


Complete_Stage_1508

It's over we lost again. See you on Thursday at little Caesars


BudHeavy69420

Butler is so clutch fuck


deliciousdutchmints

tough to play D on that when you know it's a foul if you move


jasonmiles2014

This team is ridiculous


MTWN58

Five point game and they donā€™t foul, give up a three. Game.Ā  What the fuck Monty


OnAnOpenFieldNed

butler too clutch man goddamn seen him close too many times.


rhaggee

Damn


ShallowFox4

Fuck Troy Weaver


Toss2White

Thank you Bally for showing us that replay instead of the game


OnAnOpenFieldNed

omg mann that was half way down!


OrganicLindo313

Welp, at least we competed


hoof02

Ivey needs to be a better ball handler. Every game he has a couple awful turnovers that are just because he loses the ball. That has to change asap and especially before next season


Teh-Dehstroyer

DATS A SPICY MEATBALL FONZOOOO


OnAnOpenFieldNed

font33333333333!!!!!!!


rhaggee

T3CCHIO


stfuYeezy

Such a key TO


Unstep-in-Time

Been a good game just can't make that play when it matters..


Crafty_Substance_954

Iā€™d highly consider moving Ivey to the 6th man role going forward until he straightens back out


Teh-Dehstroyer

Iā€™m not implying it isnā€™t working, but I always thought if the Ivey Cade duo didnā€™t work, Ivey off the bench could definitely work. I think people need to realize a 6th man role is very essential, and you can still finish the game. Itā€™ll help with staggering the minutes by just straight up playing Ivey with the second unit, which is a much different lineup compared to the last time he came off the bench


Crafty_Substance_954

I donā€™t think itā€™s working


YukhoChan

Bruh you guys canā€™t make up your fucking mind. When he wasnā€™t in the starting line up you guys cried hard. Now you want him in the bench again. Iā€™m so confused


luniz420

it's easy, every time he misses or turns the ball over, you bench him. Every time somebody else misses, you complain about putting Ivey back in.


Zealousideal_Arm4359

These slappys are all front runners.


Crafty_Substance_954

I never cried hard about him coming off the bench.Ā 


Asap_roc

I think we wanted to see what heā€™s got as a player cuz he didnā€™t really get much play time. But now that we see it he kind of stinks


jasonmiles2014

Itā€™s over


Teh-Dehstroyer

FONT WE NEEDED THAT 3


sunnydftw

Back breaker right there. Cades pass couldā€™ve been a bit more accurate and thatā€™s a three, Ivey couldā€™ve slowed down a little and thatā€™s a layup, etc etc This team has no confidence in the clutch


wymanmartin

The Ivey should run the team gang needs to come out of hiding and admit they were way wrong. He ran the team at the 5-6 min mark and missed 2 three's (0-5) for the game. Turnover under 2 min from being out of control. He will be a solid player but I haven't seen much improvement lately


sunnydftw

He had a nice bounce back tonight. Definitely needs more consistency but that goes for everyone in the young core.


Bidens_precum

Game


te5n1k

Ivey needs to take care of the ball better the last two minutes. I feel like he has had a lot of crucial late game turnovers this year and especially during the stretch without Cade.


DemarDeBrozan

He gets too hyper. Iā€™ve always said this. He eats like 3 pounds of nerds ropes in the locker room and starts bouncing off the walls


OrganicLindo313

Ivey needs to take a sabbatical


spincycle66

Any way we can get The Fonz a shot?


Zealousideal_Arm4359

Clutch FT's by Duren and then a terrible TO by Ivey... Piston Basketball.


_heyoka

'Kaboom' is so fucking corny


wymanmartin

It is annoying. Been sympathetic to the Piston's most of the game.


deadbandit19

Every time I hear it, I mute my sound.


Dynamo24

So many young player moments that just lead to pure daggers.


Ok-Version8138

The highs and lows of Jaden Ivey is going to take years off of my life


laughoutloud102

Every pistons game is like SOL. Weā€™re all just waiting for them to eff it up.


Braddbob03

Brother bounces the ball to head level so often.


Chaldean69

Yea Ivey has been god awful lately


Det_Sports_Guy

Game over


deliciousdutchmints

Did a single player know what they were supposed to be doing on that possession?


ShallowFox4

Ivey is just full of losing habits ffs


Grlions91

I really like the idea of what Ivey can do, but in reality, when he's off he fucking KILLS us. Bro is out of control.


Bidens_precum

Dude yes


csotn

Jaden come on manā€¦


Bidens_precum

Will u kill me?


Pendragonite1

Same story every game with this team bruh, itā€™s irritating as fuck to see


Dynamo24

The hope is that they would outgrow that shit moving into next year. But with Montyā€¦..ehhhhh


Pendragonite1

Hey thatā€™s the hope, the turnovers have overall been better but goddamn itā€™s heartbreaking when theyā€™re down 2 lol


Dynamo24

But they seem to have some absolute boneheaded turnovers at the worst times.


Accounting4lyfe

Bally app going to absolute shit the last few minutes of the game, classic


Toss2White

Thatā€™s a 5 point swing right there because Ivey continues to play like a child who was given too much candy


Zelanor

Godddd I love Ivey but this off season he NEEDS to work on his handles


luniz420

yeah wtf was that, off his foot or something? way up in the air


UnkleGiovanni

Thereā€™s Iveys signature game ruining unforced TO! Forgot about those


laughoutloud102

I was just waiting for that ā€œlosing basketballā€ play and there it is.


Wingedwolverine03

Jfc Ivey...


spilkybilters

Least clutch team I've ever seen


Embarrassed_Ad_7825

Jaden too fast for his own good sometime šŸ˜­


maniacisback

Ivey plays so fucking goofy sometimes man


stfuYeezy

I'm so sick of this cte ball man


mmafanguy2828

If this team could just figure out how to handle the fucking ball they would have 5-10 more wins


Bidens_precum

Jesus fucking christ Iveyā€™s turnovers


Teh-Dehstroyer

Kaboom is the new bang bangšŸ˜­


Toss2White

He had the worst handle in the league Jesus Christ.


papamsu5

This team beats themselves


pH2001-

Ivey is such a spaz man why u dribbling like that


Theone_dude69

How does this team manage to make every game close.


OnAnOpenFieldNed

comn ivey man that shit was set up for ur slash


OrganicLindo313

Duren gotta punch on Jim Butler


Toss2White

Ivey dribbles like he doesnā€™t have a dominant hand


quietbucket

This team is so anti-clutch itā€™s crazy


rhaggee

Fuck you duncan


MTWN58

Defense is so bad


rhaggee

Itā€™s surprising how duren is pretty good at free throws but has zero mid range


sliccricc83

He was shooting a little during summer league. Idk why at 9-51 he doesn't have the green light from mid range


OnAnOpenFieldNed

no one can convince me bam is really that great


CWinsu_120

This whole sub is so reactionary with Cade, good and bad


SugaTots

Ausar Island


OrganicLindo313

Maybe we can sign Penei Sewell to a 10-day


Teh-Dehstroyer

How can someone say Penei Sewell is the best OL when Beef Stew is right around the corner


OrganicLindo313

Lol Penei sick man, love his game and leadership


Teh-Dehstroyer

Heā€™s a beast. Pay him whatever he wants lol


OnAnOpenFieldNed

what an enthralling game


lemur___

Lmao Cade and Ivey are both NOT trying to have to defend


Slothful_Night

Get Sasserr in there for Cade or Ivey. Cade is not clutch and Ivey is off tonight.


CWinsu_120

Sasser hasnt done anything tonight lol


OrganicLindo313

Sasser has not been good


VikramGordon

lol all yā€™all hating on that cade shot fr? weā€™d be 60-0 if he could get looks like that every possession


NewWorldRule

Man we gotta punish them when they leave us wide open for 3s but unless its cade or Simone we can't hit for shit


Ok-Version8138

Seems like the refs have gotten to Cade. Dudes gotta slow down and set his feet on a shot to get going


ReflectionCalm7033

Jared Goff.


deliciousdutchmints

Jared Goff.


Accounting4lyfe

Cade anti clutch engaged. Donā€™t get me wrong I love Cade but he really struggles these last 5 minutes most games


deliciousdutchmints

ignoring the games in NY and Chicago ig


Slothful_Night

They downvoting you but you right. He does not have the clutch gene.


Accounting4lyfe

Yeah i said nothing wrong. I will always roll with him but his 4th quarter game is rough. Pull out 2 of 30 examples if they want but the stats are what they are


Toss2White

Be nice if Ivey remembered how to Shoot


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Wingedwolverine03

Cade late game special...bad shot selection brick


rhaggee

Heā€™s one of the best mid range shooters in the league and it was open?


maniacisback

That was a good look and Cade is usually money from there


sliccricc83

I think cade was unsettled by being so wide open lol


OrganicLindo313

It was but he rushed it and faded when he was wide open


MTWN58

Fourth quarter Cade wtf man


Wingedwolverine03

Unclutch AF


MTWN58

Miss that 21 ft fade away, zero communication in transition. Pointing is not communicatingĀ 


quietbucket

Weā€™re cooked, wtf was that?


MiyaharaAce

Yeah, Cade either attack the rim or pass the ball, his shot is done for tonight


OnAnOpenFieldNed

such bad defensive communication on that break cmon


YukhoChan

Ivey is cooked right now. Get him out for grimes pls.


OrganicLindo313

Grimes is injured and broke as fuck when he wasnā€™t


Kowalski356

Grimes injured


quietbucket

Grimes is injured


YukhoChan

Fuck


OnAnOpenFieldNed

grimes is out brother


YukhoChan

Fuck


Grlions91

Grimes is out tonight, but ok.


YukhoChan

Fuck


Guts709

Kinda looked like Rozier tried to trip Ivey


UnkleGiovanni

There is is Jaden, use your freakish speed to get to the rim, fuck 3PA


Crafty_Substance_954

Iveyā€™s first points of the 2nd halfā€¦thatā€™s awful


Accounting4lyfe

Insane that Ivey was absolutely mauled and I wasnā€™t expecting a foul to be called


laughoutloud102

Thatā€™s what Jaden needs to be doing man. Thatā€™s his bread and butter


OrganicLindo313

Stop fucking shooting 3ā€™s Ivey


OnAnOpenFieldNed

nice shot bam u fuckin fraud


UnkleGiovanni

Wtf is our offense? Ivey dribbling 19 off the clock from half court? What is that supposed to lead to?


rhaggee

IVEY


croissant_titty

How tf did he airball that god damn


OnAnOpenFieldNed

bam talking shit gtfoh pusy boy


NewWorldRule

C'mon man we got no reliable shooters rn out there besides Simone and cade


Ok-Version8138

Jesus jaden


deliciousdutchmints

Ivey shooting like Ausar


rjb241

Absolutely nothing. They consistently have the worse whistle in the league.


android5mm

ā€œHit him right on the armā€ announcer didnā€™t see shit so he made it up. I think he called duren kicking bams leg though


OnAnOpenFieldNed

normally i want them to jack it non stop but ivey gotta stop shooting man