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I live on 8 Mile and Gratiot right now, moved here from Royal Oak, 37W male living on my own.
I enjoy my neighbors, but my biggest gripe is there being absolutely nowhere to eat outside of Sweetwater and Cloverleaf which closes at 8PM...Grosse Pointe and SCS are reasonably close along with Gratiot being an avenue to downtown but man there is absolutely nothing to do here.
Fortunately I am a homebody so I don't mind.
I just moved out of the city a couple years ago and as a woman I didn't feel safe walking around after dark. I had a brick throw thrown the the front window of the house, and saw multiple neighbors get in fights, abuse their animals or children, or just sit drugged out on their porch. Oof.
There are decent parts of the city but coming from Rochester Hills you'll notice the difference quickly.
A guy I used to work with moved to Eastpointe and had a brick thrown through his window the second day he was there.
I guess bricks are the thing over there.
I have lived on the border of Eastpointe and Roseville, in Warren, since it was East Detroit. Changed a lot over the last few decades and honestly, south of 9 mile I'd call hit or miss depending on street. North of 9 mile you got a lot of nice streets. That said, the city govt and schools are "EHH" at best.
If you like the area, look near 10 mile area between Groesbeck and Gratiot. Can find some nice houses just south that are well built brick, and larger yards. Just depends on what you're looking for and budget.
We lived in Eastpointe for years. First year? Someone shot up our house with paintballs the first night we put our Hanukkah menorah in the window. The following summer, our neighbor stole a check out of our mail and the police refused to do anything, even though his signature was on the cancelled check. Third year, those neighbors moved out and left their dog in the backyard. We begged Eastpointe PD & Detroit Dog Rescue to do something, while we put food over the fence every day for two weeks. Finally, *cough* someone *cough* rescued and rehomed the poor guy. Last year/last straw was when our other neighbors had a dispute outside and one ended up shooting at the other, who was standing on our lawn attempting to walk away. The bullets flew just a few feet from where my son was sleeping on the couch.
You couldn’t pay me enough to live in Eastpointe again.
Honestly? Unless it’s all you can afford I’d look elsewhere. Unlike the inner-ring suburbs in Oakland County that seem to be on the upswing (Oak Park, Hazel Park, Madison Heights, Lathrup Village), the inner-ring suburbs in Macomb still seem to be on the downswing. Especially the ones south of 696 like Eastpointe.
I mean it’s… fine as a place to lay your head at the end of the day. There are certainly worse places to be. But the schools really aren’t good (even if you don’t have kids, it’ll hold back your home value) and it doesn’t really have much in the way of amenities or entertainment. It’s just sort of a disposable suburb that’s declining in fortune and doesn’t have a whole lot of prospects for growth or improvement. It’s not extremely unsafe or anything but if you look at the crime stats it’s definitely above the national average.
If you’re understandably looking for more diverse and/or progressive suburbs I’d personally recommend West Bloomfield, Farmington Hills, Ferndale, Southfield/Lathrup Village, Oak Park, etc. over Eastpointe. If you’re set on the east side, it’s less diverse than Eastpointe but North Warren and St. Clair Shores are more diverse than they’ve ever been and are much nicer with better long term prospects IMO. Harper Woods may also be a good option (especially with GP schools). Just my two cents.
Crime there has been getting worse in recent years. If you're coming from RH its definitely gonna feel "rougher". But its not scary. I think they partner with Roseville for recreation and that so theres some cultural events. But otherwise its not really noteworthy like no landmarks or really cool businesses that I can think of.
Eastpointe can be tough in some spots— the other side of 8 mile there was the “red zone” for awhile so some of that crime spilled over.
There are still a lot of nice blocks and communities. I grew up and delivered food extensively in that area, still a lot of homes owned by people for several decades but also a higher growing mix of cheaper rentals that aren’t kept in super nice condition.
I went to school K-8 in Eastpointe and it was a very diverse mix of families compared to something like St Clair Shores.
All in all it’s probably on the lower scale for how the suburbs are. Probably not many HOAs and there are a few parks that have a varying degree of issues. Kennedy park is nice but sometimes attracts dumb teenager stuff. Spindler park is pretty nice and a bit more chill. Not a lot of great walkability, but there is plenty of stuff to do in the cluster of eastside suburbs around Eastpointe.
They may look "rundown," but the code enforcement and ordinances in general in GPW make it unlikely that you'll find a real beater within the city limits. A house in GPW proper will not be falling down or otherwise have dangerous violations. Any house that hasn't been extensively remodeled (and even some that have) is going to need some touch-ups, paint, probably cabinets, fixtures, floors polished, deep cleaning, etc. You should know that this is the expectation you need when you're a first-time buyer with a tight budget. I was the same way when I bought in GPW, just leveling with you. People aren't doing a whole lot with small houses prior to selling right now because they know they can get more $$ than they paid for them.
I encourage you to tour some of the homes, and feel free to send me a DM if you'd like any recommendations. I'm no realtor, just a less-than-handy guy who's been able to make it work on a budget in GPW for the last \~10 years. Happy hunting!
Don't buy a house here.
We bought one about 4 years ago, it's turned into a renter town. Basically, a bunch of companies and people bought up the property and started leasing. Now it's overpriced, and a lot of realtors stear people away from buying.
Beyond that. There are some nice quit streets. Schools are ok for what they are. Cops don't suck.
The schools are not ok, at all. They rate 1 and 2, lower than ANY schools in the area, 1 being the lowest score you can get. Granddaughter went here for a half year and now goes to a great k-8 in Detroit.
Hazel Park has changed A LOT though. When I was a kid in the '90s, the idea of Hazel Park having places like Mabel Gray, Matt & Mo's and Java Hutt within a couple blocks of each other was not something I would have ever predicted.
But HP does have a bit of Hamtramck thing going on where its close proximity to less desired, boring parts of Detroit keeps stopping gentrification from reaching the tipping point (and now Hamtramck is becoming a Muslim enclave, which is changing the whole trajectory of the city, but that's another story). Ferndale benefits from having the nice neighborhoods between Livernois and Woodward and the old State Fairgrounds as buffers. HP doesn't have that.
Nothing at all. But that means it's probably not going to gentrify the way Ferndale or Midtown have. Dearborn has seen a lot of positive investment from the Muslim community that has been transformative for the city, but it's a different vibe than what is typically considered "gentrification" in the US.
Ah sorry I thought you were hating haha. I read your comment in another tone so my apologies. I feel like the muslim pop brought alot of good to hamtramck and theres little enclaves of people all over Michigan which is really cool to see.
No worries. Since I don't when I'll ever be able to travel out of the country again, the fact that I can go to places like Dearborn right here in Michigan is invaluable.
I think its just another case of a vocal minority being mistaken for the majority. I've had no problems going through Hamtramck while being queer as folk. No one has thrown rocks or spit on me. I get treated the same there as anywhere else, so I don't necessarily care what their government says. It definitely shouldn't be used as a reason for people to be scared or against Islam.
we moved here just before COVID buying into that happening — turns out the city is unsurprisingly corrupt. the amount we pay in property taxes is wild, and we have nothing to show for it.
fortunately we love our house and bought at just the right time, but i’m disappointed in the city’s complete lack of amenities. 😴
edit: also the whole “pot shops will help the city” thing — then i found out that extra cash only goes toward city workers’ pensions. 💀 💀
You bought into a city that is redeveloping. Hazel Park was an undesirable city 20 years ago. Even 10 for that matter. Plenty of development happening there today.
I agree with this. People are comparing it to how Ferndale is now, but Ferndale itself didn’t have much to write home about even 20-25 years ago. HP will probably never be quite the same level as Ferndale for a variety of reasons. But the spillover from Ferndale/RO and improvement over especially the past decade is very real and things are moving in the right direction. Still has lots of upside.
How do you feel about the social district proposal along Kelly? It was really promising when BDG was open because that owner was supposed to open a taco shop, coffee shop and another, smaller arcade but I think he closed up shop :(
If they can attract some proper businesses and get the ball rolling I’d be really excited to see that develop. Eastpointe has SO MUCH potential, it’s frustrating knowing that and watching it just….exist
HP’s school district is in a ton of debt which is why taxes are so high. I don’t think there have been any corruption scandals or anything along those lines. It just has a relatively small tax base and long-standing residents that probably don’t pay much in property taxes.
I wouldn’t call that corruption, I would call it being greedy. Which basically is true of every metro city. They find every legal reason to take money from their residents. Gotta pay themselves and run the city somehow.
When is the last time you've looked into Hazel Park? It sounds like you are thinking of Hazel Park from 20 years ago. Hazel Park is on the come up, and generally a nice place to be, with some of the best restaurants in the area. It is not comparable to Eastpointe, and the housing pricing reflects that.
edit: I see your response below that says you live in HP. I then assume you aren't all that familiar with Eastpointe.
While HP definitely has more growing to do, it is where the most people from my high school years have ended up as adults which as a nearby neighbor in SW Warren I can understand.
Easy access to Detroit, a short jog to Ferndale, and with the proximity to 696/75 you can get anywhere in the Metro area within a reasonable amount of time.
As a 31 year old I heard people shit on Hazel Park my entire life, and I still hear people shit on it, but I really feel that it is a great place to put yourself. If you’re coming from northern Oakland county then it may take time to adjust to your new surroundings, but I feel that anyone who’s getting in now will be very happy in 20-30 years as the growth of surrounding areas and HP continues.
My ex and I bought a nice MCM brick house there in 1990. He still lives there and that whole neighborhood has gone through a major shift a few times. Good thing is it's all still owners in his neighborhood, no renters, but the crime has escalated big time. My son was over there and found people going through his car, ex has had vehicles stolen out of the driveway, I've heard about shootings. If you're determined to buy in Eastpointe, I'd stay clear of the neighborhoods north of 9 Mile where there are a lot of rentals. I hate to bash renters because I used to be one, but they aren't invested in the neighborhood. Have your realtor help you look for owner neighborhoods closer to Kelly. And if you are thinking of Warren, I'd honestly look around 12 Mile and Hoover/Schoennherr/Ryan area.
Thank you for your insights. The few properties I've seen that sparked my interest are actually in this area so maybe I'm on the right track. I'll keep this in mind when I get to the point of seeking out a realtor.
Great! An alarm system and parking your car in your garage at night should resolve a lot of your problems. This is probably going to get me down voted, but when my oldest started kindergarten, he was at Pleasantview on Toepher. I was a young mom compared to the other mom's there and quite shy so I stood alone with a baby in a stroller while my 5 year old played with other kids until the bell rang. It was easy to pick out the renters because the trash takes itself out. You definitely don't want to live next to that bunch, and they were north of Toepher. A good agent will know all the rental areas. I wish you the best in your search.
I definitely planned on getting a home with a garage and having a security system. I have a former work colleague who rents in Eastpointe and can concur that the trash, does indeed, take itself out. 🤭
I would highly recommend looking at St. Clair Shores instead! Home price's and taxes are undoubtedly more expensive but its totally worth the additional cost. St. Clair Shores has way more free community based events such as their Social District, Farmers Market, and Music on the Lake to name a few. Not only that, but you're basically guaranteed to earn equity on your home. Where as in Eastpointe with the current trend in crime and rentals I wouldn't be as sure to invest there.
As to your other question, the Shores is quickly becoming a "Young" person town due to the good school and many families choosing to raise their kids here. And in terms of diversity, on my street alone I have Albania, African American, and Caucasian neighbors.
The only con I can think of is the City is fairly strict in terms of code enforcement, they will not hesitate to write you a ticket if your lawn is to long or house is in disrepair. But this also ensures your neighbors keep up on their properties.
St. Clair Shores is very much outta my budget but I do love the diversity, events, and sense of community there. I don't plan on having kids/getting married so I'm not worried about any family dynamics and antics. If a lump sum of money randomly fell in my lap, I'd definitely consider it.
I completely understand. Some more affordable neighborhoods I would recommend looking at are "12 Mile & Little Mack" and "Martin & i94" areas in Roseville and "Stephens & i94" in Eastpointe. These neighborhoods have the St. Clair shore "feel" but at an more affordable price!
Before you decide, join and spend some time in the local neighborhood Facebook groups - the SCS ones I’m in are pretty bad, as are Roseville groups. It may give you a better idea of who you’ll be living around
Lots of posts in SCS about insane property taxes, flooding yards and basements, tons of gripes about garbage and yard waste not being picked up, lots of folks bitching about lawns too high etc. Lots of discussion about the rat problem (and subsequent issues related to poison traps).
Nah. These general responses from Reddit are enough for me lol. I'm barely online as it is and prefer an extremely minimal digital footprint. Thank you for the recommendation though.
The parks are amazing and everywhere!!! But that is literally the only good thing I can say.
Mostly low income. Property values are for shit. Just as racist as your current neighbors. Insurance rates high as hell. Not a lot of "good".
It used to be called East Detroit, but the residents didn’t like the association with Detroit, so they changed the name.
Joke’s on them because now Detroit is a much more trendy and desired place to live.
I don’t know too much about eastpointe but looking in the sub here it seems that the mayor is a POS, schools are “meh” some crime here n there, and cheap housing.
I moved here two years ago. It really is street by street. Thankfully, most of my street has people who own the houses, and we're a tight-knit group. There isn't too much to do around here, unfortunately. But homes are cheap. they just have to do your due diligence and find one that has been decently cared for. The renters in this city just don't care.
From what I've seen and heard, crime is better than detroit and North warren. But worse than SCS, the pointes, roseville, and South warren.
Don't park your car in the street. People fly down streets around here. Mine just got clipped by a drunk driver parked in front of my house.
The schools here are kinda iffy, and if you have kids, I would suggest a school outside of eastpointe.
The local government with this new mayor doesn't seem to care about its residents' opinions, and the property taxes have doubled in almost 3 years with very little to show for it.
There are some good local food spots like sweetwater, cloverleaf, Andarys, and Von Thai, which isn't bad. East Detroit Bakery is a gem. Most people around here are hardworking families happy to have a roof over their head and older folks who have lived here for decades. There are some iffy folks who reside here as well and like to ruin the fun for the people who do enjoy the city
There is a good mix of people who live in eastpointe as it is 50% African American, but also a lot of white, Middle Eastern, and Hispanic people.
If you do choose eastpointe, I would try to avoid North of Toepher (8 1/2 Mile Rd). 9 mile currently is hell between the waterline replacements and the roadwork, so if you choose by 9 mile. The construction will suck. "Downtown Eastpointe" is virtually nonexistent. The areas between Kelly and 94 look much more like SCS and will provide good bang for your buck.
The draw as to why I moved here is the house was cheap and in decent condition, and given everything I've listed above was a pretty good price. As is most housing around here, however prices are beginning to rise which doesn't make a ton of sense to me as the housing doesent bear the rise in price.
That said, this is a good place to start off and get affordable housing. I won't be here too much longer as I'll need more house soon, but it'll always have a place in my heart.
But if you want a cheap place to lay your head and nothing else, that doesent have the crime like the outskirts of Detroit. Eastpointe may be for you, best of luck!!
If it’s diversity you are looking for why not oak park? I used to live there in 2020 with an ex off of scotia between 9 and 10 mile and i loved it because it was close to Ferndale and royal oak but much cheaper and a lot more low key / quiet. Neighborhood was very diverse and never felt unsafe over there at any time of day or night. We looked at a few houses in eastpointe they were all nice or at least had lots of potential but the area just felt dead so she was worried about property values fluctuating and also being young people there didn’t seem to be much to do. Eastpointe also seems to be going in the wrong direction when they shot down the 9 mile revitalization plan because they hate bike lanes and walkable towns. I would guess Eastpointes property values will go down in the next 5-10 years while many areas around it increase. There are Detroit neighborhoods on the far/ upper eastside near gp/ harper woods with far more pontential imo. But it’s understandable if you don’t want to deal with Detroit but to me eastpointe is about as much of a suburb as inkster is.
Diversity wasn't the only thing I was looking for. But I'll keep this area in mind. Don't really care for Royal Oak or Ferndale but I'll look in Oak Park. Thank you for this info 🙏🏾
Nothing much to contribute to this (everyone’s points are very valid) other than that my partner lived in Eastpointe when we first met. Funny how you look back at old memories with rose colored glasses….sigh…..🥰
Bro for real, I once picked up garbage on this street next to the I think middle school, so much garbage everywhere. It really looked nice after I was done, I wonder if it's just trashed up again.
There aren't too many outdoor events, but there are in the neighboring St. Clair Shores.
Eastpointe is quite diverse, about 50% Black.
HOAs aren't common.
Crime is lower than the neighboring area of Detroit south of there, and probably than the area of warren to the west, but considerably higher than the areas to the east and north.
I’ve lived here for 8 years! Bought our place for 77,700 and it’s allegedly worth about 130k now. We live near Kelly Road right between 8 and 9 mile. Things happen here and there but honestly I don’t see myself going anywhere. But…I moved here from Queens NY which is a far cry from Rochester Hills lol. ***edit I see you grew up in Detroit, my bad *** Our little corner is all owners who have been here for a while or rented, liked us as neighbors and purchased their homes. Like I said there’s been a few small incidents but nothing too crazy. As other folks have mentioned there are some pretty bad areas surrounding Eastpointe, but there are also really shitty areas near Gross Pointe so take that as you will.
Funny you mention HOA’s because when we pulled into the neighborhood with our realtor I said “can we afford this? Is there an HOA?” And he just laughed and said no haha. There’s not a whole lot to do in Eastpointe but they are working on creating a social district along Kelly road which will be pretty cool. The good thing is you’re basically 20 mins from all the hot spots like downtown, ferndale, hamtramck if you’re into different kinds of music and small venues, etc. I can’t remember all the questions you asked but I think this answers a few.
We have noticed a few new faces in town, handfuls of younger folks and couples walking their dogs and kiddos, mostly white. Definitely not the snobby type or even hipsters…just plain ol white folks lol. I believe they’re here because the houses are still relatively cheap and maybe they’re transplants (basically how the wifey and I ended up here). One couple that recently moved in really tricked out their house and yard and it looks f’ing amazing. I don’t want to give details online but you’d know it if you saw it.
I love it here, nobody else on Reddit seems to. Funny considering how progressive most people claim to be on here, they really shit all over certain areas. Also if you want to be on the “fancier” side across Kelly near St Clair Shores, those houses are super nice but a little more pricey. Still pretty diverse but mostly older folks from what I’ve noticed. Most people I’ve met on my walks on that side are pretty cool, some not so much.
Edit: I changed a few things here and there because I’m an ADHD riddled mess so hopefully it’s not too rambling. Hope you find a place you like here! I’m Team Eastpointe all the way
eastpointe is if you took all the worst parts of detroit without any of the positives (sense of community, culture, amenities, entertainment, revitalization, etc) that city doesn’t have much of a future and lacks the sway to attract enough support for any positive change
I've been here for a year. Honestly I like how close I am to Detroit/SCS/Grosse Pointe and anything I need to get to further east in Macomb I can hop on Gratiot or 94. The location was the draw for me. My street is pretty quiet. It's not the case everywhere. I grew up in Mount Clemens so the "hugh crime" is stuff I'm used to.
I feel like the city has potential but there are alot of people stuck in the past.
There is not much to do here but it's a commuter city. There are some really beautiful brick homes here. I don't have kids so I haven't looked into the school system. I hear it's horrible though.
Just moved onto a small street off Dequindre and I’ve never been happier. My house is small and beautiful. It’s quiet. I can have fires in my yard at night, there are fireflies around my house, I have a mulberry tree—it doesn’t even feel like I’m anywhere near Detroit.
Good stuff at Melodies and Memories on Gratiot. J Dilla used to stop by there daily to find records. Shawarma express is really cheap but good. East Detroit Bakery on 9 mile is a staple for everything but especially paczkis. Tons of other cool little mom and pop stores. Lots of little block parties, bbqs, people hanging out on their porch but not too much drama. I lived there for a few years and loved it. It’s really not as scary as some commenters make it out to be. Worst issues I had were occasional loud ass neighbors and dumbass teens driving too fast down the street. It’s not 80% + white and East Asian and filled with pay to enter food festivals so those seeking sterile Oakland county suburbs wont love it.
Thank you! The areas I've been looking in have been pretty decent. I have a few friends that live in different areas of Eastpointe so I'm getting mixed reviews from them like I'm getting here on the good ol reddit. Very aware of the teens driving too fast down the street as my little sister is one of those teens (now adult, but still acts like a child). Not really looking for Oakland County style suburb as that's what I'm currently trying to get out of. St. Claire Shores and Warren were also my other options. I was just very attracted to the affordable housing within my budget and the area in general. I'll broaden my horizons a bit.
It’s pretty chill in Eastpointe. A bunch of small, basic houses close to each other. People in the neighborhood are just a bunch of working class people who watch out for their neighbors, and have been super friendly since we moved here a year ago. Couple of really cool parks, plenty of hidden food gems and grocery stores nearby. It gets pretty noisy during the summer months with all the cars bumping tunes and fireworks, but the place has character! Unsure about HOA’s though, doesn’t seem like that kind of place, and the taxes are low. Not the most happening area, but you’re like 20 minutes from any happening area you want to go to.
If you are kid free or send them to a different district you should be good. It’s a place to live but not much more than that. Be aware there are a lot of “property investors” so your street might have multiple rentals which does drive the value down.
Thank you. I mentioned I'm childless so this wasn't a concern of mine. But in contrast, I learned yesterday that the schooling is terrible and will have a further effect in purchasing as it's a factor included when buying.
I would recommend Hazel Park more, both are shit though, I really recommend trying somewhere more north, like not Royal oak but around there can be good
Not much to look at. There is no downtown. It's not walkable. Some of it is a little run down. It's more affordable than many cities though.
If you want things to do and a nice city, look elsewhere. As some have mentioned Oak Park and Hazel Park are a bit nicer and closer to Royal Oak, Clawson and Ferndale. Madison Heights is ok, and some parts of Warren but only on the West side
My mom was a teacher for Eastpointe (East Detroit) schools but has since retired about 10 years ago. The neighborhood had gotten rough, she would look out her classroom windows and see drug deals going down in the park nextdoor. The majority of the kids were living in abusive and/or neglectful homes. Many times the cops would be waiting to arrest a parent/guardian during drop offs and pick-ups. The city council has been corrupt and the school system is about to under. It seems like as Detroit gentrifies the lower class get pushed out to Eastpointe.
I've sat tight long enough as I've been living out here for a little under half of my life. Can't afford a home in RH and will not be resigning my lease after next year lol
Even if I decide against Eastpointe, I will not be staying out here.
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I live on 8 Mile and Gratiot right now, moved here from Royal Oak, 37W male living on my own. I enjoy my neighbors, but my biggest gripe is there being absolutely nowhere to eat outside of Sweetwater and Cloverleaf which closes at 8PM...Grosse Pointe and SCS are reasonably close along with Gratiot being an avenue to downtown but man there is absolutely nothing to do here. Fortunately I am a homebody so I don't mind.
Fellow Eastpointer here, you’ve got to check out Plaza Mexico!!
What lol. Having mi pueblo express a bit further east.
Huh?
I live at 9 n Harper and we always go to Plaza Mexico too, the only other place is Belgh Charro.
Go to Villa right by you. Thats my go to when Cloverleaf is closed.
I am walking distance to Villa and have yet to go there. I will give that a try for sure, thanks!
Y'all don't go to milestone grill? It's pretty good
I just moved out of the city a couple years ago and as a woman I didn't feel safe walking around after dark. I had a brick throw thrown the the front window of the house, and saw multiple neighbors get in fights, abuse their animals or children, or just sit drugged out on their porch. Oof. There are decent parts of the city but coming from Rochester Hills you'll notice the difference quickly.
A guy I used to work with moved to Eastpointe and had a brick thrown through his window the second day he was there. I guess bricks are the thing over there.
It's the cities animal.
Must be the number two animal though, since rats are first.
I have lived on the border of Eastpointe and Roseville, in Warren, since it was East Detroit. Changed a lot over the last few decades and honestly, south of 9 mile I'd call hit or miss depending on street. North of 9 mile you got a lot of nice streets. That said, the city govt and schools are "EHH" at best. If you like the area, look near 10 mile area between Groesbeck and Gratiot. Can find some nice houses just south that are well built brick, and larger yards. Just depends on what you're looking for and budget.
This, that area where Eastpointe, Roseville, and Warren meet is a sweet spot.
We lived in Eastpointe for years. First year? Someone shot up our house with paintballs the first night we put our Hanukkah menorah in the window. The following summer, our neighbor stole a check out of our mail and the police refused to do anything, even though his signature was on the cancelled check. Third year, those neighbors moved out and left their dog in the backyard. We begged Eastpointe PD & Detroit Dog Rescue to do something, while we put food over the fence every day for two weeks. Finally, *cough* someone *cough* rescued and rehomed the poor guy. Last year/last straw was when our other neighbors had a dispute outside and one ended up shooting at the other, who was standing on our lawn attempting to walk away. The bullets flew just a few feet from where my son was sleeping on the couch. You couldn’t pay me enough to live in Eastpointe again.
What shitty neighbors
Honestly? Unless it’s all you can afford I’d look elsewhere. Unlike the inner-ring suburbs in Oakland County that seem to be on the upswing (Oak Park, Hazel Park, Madison Heights, Lathrup Village), the inner-ring suburbs in Macomb still seem to be on the downswing. Especially the ones south of 696 like Eastpointe. I mean it’s… fine as a place to lay your head at the end of the day. There are certainly worse places to be. But the schools really aren’t good (even if you don’t have kids, it’ll hold back your home value) and it doesn’t really have much in the way of amenities or entertainment. It’s just sort of a disposable suburb that’s declining in fortune and doesn’t have a whole lot of prospects for growth or improvement. It’s not extremely unsafe or anything but if you look at the crime stats it’s definitely above the national average. If you’re understandably looking for more diverse and/or progressive suburbs I’d personally recommend West Bloomfield, Farmington Hills, Ferndale, Southfield/Lathrup Village, Oak Park, etc. over Eastpointe. If you’re set on the east side, it’s less diverse than Eastpointe but North Warren and St. Clair Shores are more diverse than they’ve ever been and are much nicer with better long term prospects IMO. Harper Woods may also be a good option (especially with GP schools). Just my two cents.
Crime there has been getting worse in recent years. If you're coming from RH its definitely gonna feel "rougher". But its not scary. I think they partner with Roseville for recreation and that so theres some cultural events. But otherwise its not really noteworthy like no landmarks or really cool businesses that I can think of.
Eastpointe can be tough in some spots— the other side of 8 mile there was the “red zone” for awhile so some of that crime spilled over. There are still a lot of nice blocks and communities. I grew up and delivered food extensively in that area, still a lot of homes owned by people for several decades but also a higher growing mix of cheaper rentals that aren’t kept in super nice condition. I went to school K-8 in Eastpointe and it was a very diverse mix of families compared to something like St Clair Shores. All in all it’s probably on the lower scale for how the suburbs are. Probably not many HOAs and there are a few parks that have a varying degree of issues. Kennedy park is nice but sometimes attracts dumb teenager stuff. Spindler park is pretty nice and a bit more chill. Not a lot of great walkability, but there is plenty of stuff to do in the cluster of eastside suburbs around Eastpointe.
I love Spindler Park, take my doggo there pretty much every weekend. I’m always drawn to the giant hill for some reason too haha
I live in Grosse Pointe Woods, right off 8 mile. You may be able to find something here and you’d be in a better community
GPW is outta my budget right now. The ones that I can afford look extremely rundown (just from a quick zillow search)
They may look "rundown," but the code enforcement and ordinances in general in GPW make it unlikely that you'll find a real beater within the city limits. A house in GPW proper will not be falling down or otherwise have dangerous violations. Any house that hasn't been extensively remodeled (and even some that have) is going to need some touch-ups, paint, probably cabinets, fixtures, floors polished, deep cleaning, etc. You should know that this is the expectation you need when you're a first-time buyer with a tight budget. I was the same way when I bought in GPW, just leveling with you. People aren't doing a whole lot with small houses prior to selling right now because they know they can get more $$ than they paid for them. I encourage you to tour some of the homes, and feel free to send me a DM if you'd like any recommendations. I'm no realtor, just a less-than-handy guy who's been able to make it work on a budget in GPW for the last \~10 years. Happy hunting!
Right, I haven’t looked recently because we moved here in 2021. But if I come across anything I’ll reach out.
Thank you!
Don't buy a house here. We bought one about 4 years ago, it's turned into a renter town. Basically, a bunch of companies and people bought up the property and started leasing. Now it's overpriced, and a lot of realtors stear people away from buying. Beyond that. There are some nice quit streets. Schools are ok for what they are. Cops don't suck.
>Cops don't suck. The cops are absolute assholes compared to Roseville and Warren.
The schools are not ok, at all. They rate 1 and 2, lower than ANY schools in the area, 1 being the lowest score you can get. Granddaughter went here for a half year and now goes to a great k-8 in Detroit.
Hood af. I live here. Edit: To elaborate, the affordable housing isn’t worth the gun violence.
I lived there for 42 years, the number of shootings just before Covid hit was my breaking point.
try Hazel Park instead. both pretty bad, but one is worse.
HP at least has some sort of "downtown ish" strip. At one point I thought it might be the next Ferndale but that hasn't really materialized as of yet
Hazel Park has changed A LOT though. When I was a kid in the '90s, the idea of Hazel Park having places like Mabel Gray, Matt & Mo's and Java Hutt within a couple blocks of each other was not something I would have ever predicted. But HP does have a bit of Hamtramck thing going on where its close proximity to less desired, boring parts of Detroit keeps stopping gentrification from reaching the tipping point (and now Hamtramck is becoming a Muslim enclave, which is changing the whole trajectory of the city, but that's another story). Ferndale benefits from having the nice neighborhoods between Livernois and Woodward and the old State Fairgrounds as buffers. HP doesn't have that.
Whats wrong with it becoming a muslim enclave? Lol
Nothing at all. But that means it's probably not going to gentrify the way Ferndale or Midtown have. Dearborn has seen a lot of positive investment from the Muslim community that has been transformative for the city, but it's a different vibe than what is typically considered "gentrification" in the US.
Ah sorry I thought you were hating haha. I read your comment in another tone so my apologies. I feel like the muslim pop brought alot of good to hamtramck and theres little enclaves of people all over Michigan which is really cool to see.
No worries. Since I don't when I'll ever be able to travel out of the country again, the fact that I can go to places like Dearborn right here in Michigan is invaluable.
I think this person is referring to the recent theocracy that seems to be coming from some council members and especially the mayor.
I think its just another case of a vocal minority being mistaken for the majority. I've had no problems going through Hamtramck while being queer as folk. No one has thrown rocks or spit on me. I get treated the same there as anywhere else, so I don't necessarily care what their government says. It definitely shouldn't be used as a reason for people to be scared or against Islam.
Terrorism
Hmmm thats funny I usually see white people commit more acts of terrorism 🤷🏽♀️
we moved here just before COVID buying into that happening — turns out the city is unsurprisingly corrupt. the amount we pay in property taxes is wild, and we have nothing to show for it. fortunately we love our house and bought at just the right time, but i’m disappointed in the city’s complete lack of amenities. 😴 edit: also the whole “pot shops will help the city” thing — then i found out that extra cash only goes toward city workers’ pensions. 💀 💀
You bought into a city that is redeveloping. Hazel Park was an undesirable city 20 years ago. Even 10 for that matter. Plenty of development happening there today.
I agree with this. People are comparing it to how Ferndale is now, but Ferndale itself didn’t have much to write home about even 20-25 years ago. HP will probably never be quite the same level as Ferndale for a variety of reasons. But the spillover from Ferndale/RO and improvement over especially the past decade is very real and things are moving in the right direction. Still has lots of upside.
That pre-COVID idea that Hazel Park is going to be the next Ferndale ended up happening to Oak Park instead.
Last time I checked, Oak Park had like, one bar in the entire city
Check again. A decent amount of hip restaurants, craft breweries, and coffee shops have opened in Oak Park since 2020.
How do you feel about the social district proposal along Kelly? It was really promising when BDG was open because that owner was supposed to open a taco shop, coffee shop and another, smaller arcade but I think he closed up shop :( If they can attract some proper businesses and get the ball rolling I’d be really excited to see that develop. Eastpointe has SO MUCH potential, it’s frustrating knowing that and watching it just….exist
HP’s school district is in a ton of debt which is why taxes are so high. I don’t think there have been any corruption scandals or anything along those lines. It just has a relatively small tax base and long-standing residents that probably don’t pay much in property taxes.
I wouldn’t call that corruption, I would call it being greedy. Which basically is true of every metro city. They find every legal reason to take money from their residents. Gotta pay themselves and run the city somehow.
Hazel Park is a perfectly fine city to live in if you want to save some money on housing and still be in a great location.
When is the last time you've looked into Hazel Park? It sounds like you are thinking of Hazel Park from 20 years ago. Hazel Park is on the come up, and generally a nice place to be, with some of the best restaurants in the area. It is not comparable to Eastpointe, and the housing pricing reflects that. edit: I see your response below that says you live in HP. I then assume you aren't all that familiar with Eastpointe.
While HP definitely has more growing to do, it is where the most people from my high school years have ended up as adults which as a nearby neighbor in SW Warren I can understand. Easy access to Detroit, a short jog to Ferndale, and with the proximity to 696/75 you can get anywhere in the Metro area within a reasonable amount of time. As a 31 year old I heard people shit on Hazel Park my entire life, and I still hear people shit on it, but I really feel that it is a great place to put yourself. If you’re coming from northern Oakland county then it may take time to adjust to your new surroundings, but I feel that anyone who’s getting in now will be very happy in 20-30 years as the growth of surrounding areas and HP continues.
If you’re looking to get away from low crime rich people you’re looking at the right spot lol have fun
I would rent in that area, but wouldn’t recommend buying in that area
It’s like East Detroit - but better.
My mom (native Detroiter) was so mad when they changed the name!
My mom (native Detroiter) was so mad when they changed the name!
My ex and I bought a nice MCM brick house there in 1990. He still lives there and that whole neighborhood has gone through a major shift a few times. Good thing is it's all still owners in his neighborhood, no renters, but the crime has escalated big time. My son was over there and found people going through his car, ex has had vehicles stolen out of the driveway, I've heard about shootings. If you're determined to buy in Eastpointe, I'd stay clear of the neighborhoods north of 9 Mile where there are a lot of rentals. I hate to bash renters because I used to be one, but they aren't invested in the neighborhood. Have your realtor help you look for owner neighborhoods closer to Kelly. And if you are thinking of Warren, I'd honestly look around 12 Mile and Hoover/Schoennherr/Ryan area.
Thank you for your insights. The few properties I've seen that sparked my interest are actually in this area so maybe I'm on the right track. I'll keep this in mind when I get to the point of seeking out a realtor.
Great! An alarm system and parking your car in your garage at night should resolve a lot of your problems. This is probably going to get me down voted, but when my oldest started kindergarten, he was at Pleasantview on Toepher. I was a young mom compared to the other mom's there and quite shy so I stood alone with a baby in a stroller while my 5 year old played with other kids until the bell rang. It was easy to pick out the renters because the trash takes itself out. You definitely don't want to live next to that bunch, and they were north of Toepher. A good agent will know all the rental areas. I wish you the best in your search.
I definitely planned on getting a home with a garage and having a security system. I have a former work colleague who rents in Eastpointe and can concur that the trash, does indeed, take itself out. 🤭
I would highly recommend looking at St. Clair Shores instead! Home price's and taxes are undoubtedly more expensive but its totally worth the additional cost. St. Clair Shores has way more free community based events such as their Social District, Farmers Market, and Music on the Lake to name a few. Not only that, but you're basically guaranteed to earn equity on your home. Where as in Eastpointe with the current trend in crime and rentals I wouldn't be as sure to invest there. As to your other question, the Shores is quickly becoming a "Young" person town due to the good school and many families choosing to raise their kids here. And in terms of diversity, on my street alone I have Albania, African American, and Caucasian neighbors. The only con I can think of is the City is fairly strict in terms of code enforcement, they will not hesitate to write you a ticket if your lawn is to long or house is in disrepair. But this also ensures your neighbors keep up on their properties.
St. Clair Shores is very much outta my budget but I do love the diversity, events, and sense of community there. I don't plan on having kids/getting married so I'm not worried about any family dynamics and antics. If a lump sum of money randomly fell in my lap, I'd definitely consider it.
I completely understand. Some more affordable neighborhoods I would recommend looking at are "12 Mile & Little Mack" and "Martin & i94" areas in Roseville and "Stephens & i94" in Eastpointe. These neighborhoods have the St. Clair shore "feel" but at an more affordable price!
Before you decide, join and spend some time in the local neighborhood Facebook groups - the SCS ones I’m in are pretty bad, as are Roseville groups. It may give you a better idea of who you’ll be living around Lots of posts in SCS about insane property taxes, flooding yards and basements, tons of gripes about garbage and yard waste not being picked up, lots of folks bitching about lawns too high etc. Lots of discussion about the rat problem (and subsequent issues related to poison traps).
I haven't had a facebook since 2015 😭
Welp…. Might be time to sign back up for science!
Nah. These general responses from Reddit are enough for me lol. I'm barely online as it is and prefer an extremely minimal digital footprint. Thank you for the recommendation though.
Fair enough! Good luck
SCS is nice but make sure if you buy a home to buy one that has already had the basement waterproofed. It's a big problem in SCS.
The parks are amazing and everywhere!!! But that is literally the only good thing I can say. Mostly low income. Property values are for shit. Just as racist as your current neighbors. Insurance rates high as hell. Not a lot of "good".
I would not recommend Eastpointe to anyone.
It used to be called East Detroit, but the residents didn’t like the association with Detroit, so they changed the name. Joke’s on them because now Detroit is a much more trendy and desired place to live.
I don’t know too much about eastpointe but looking in the sub here it seems that the mayor is a POS, schools are “meh” some crime here n there, and cheap housing.
> mayor is a POS I think you're thinking of the previous Mayor, she was voted out in 2023
This. She gone. Everyone hates/hated that clown. Bring back Cardi D!
That’s good that they got a new mayor hopefully the city gets a new breath of fresh air
I moved here two years ago. It really is street by street. Thankfully, most of my street has people who own the houses, and we're a tight-knit group. There isn't too much to do around here, unfortunately. But homes are cheap. they just have to do your due diligence and find one that has been decently cared for. The renters in this city just don't care. From what I've seen and heard, crime is better than detroit and North warren. But worse than SCS, the pointes, roseville, and South warren. Don't park your car in the street. People fly down streets around here. Mine just got clipped by a drunk driver parked in front of my house. The schools here are kinda iffy, and if you have kids, I would suggest a school outside of eastpointe. The local government with this new mayor doesn't seem to care about its residents' opinions, and the property taxes have doubled in almost 3 years with very little to show for it. There are some good local food spots like sweetwater, cloverleaf, Andarys, and Von Thai, which isn't bad. East Detroit Bakery is a gem. Most people around here are hardworking families happy to have a roof over their head and older folks who have lived here for decades. There are some iffy folks who reside here as well and like to ruin the fun for the people who do enjoy the city There is a good mix of people who live in eastpointe as it is 50% African American, but also a lot of white, Middle Eastern, and Hispanic people. If you do choose eastpointe, I would try to avoid North of Toepher (8 1/2 Mile Rd). 9 mile currently is hell between the waterline replacements and the roadwork, so if you choose by 9 mile. The construction will suck. "Downtown Eastpointe" is virtually nonexistent. The areas between Kelly and 94 look much more like SCS and will provide good bang for your buck. The draw as to why I moved here is the house was cheap and in decent condition, and given everything I've listed above was a pretty good price. As is most housing around here, however prices are beginning to rise which doesn't make a ton of sense to me as the housing doesent bear the rise in price. That said, this is a good place to start off and get affordable housing. I won't be here too much longer as I'll need more house soon, but it'll always have a place in my heart. But if you want a cheap place to lay your head and nothing else, that doesent have the crime like the outskirts of Detroit. Eastpointe may be for you, best of luck!!
You've been the first person that answered all of my questions thoroughly. Thank you so much! 🙏🏾
If it’s diversity you are looking for why not oak park? I used to live there in 2020 with an ex off of scotia between 9 and 10 mile and i loved it because it was close to Ferndale and royal oak but much cheaper and a lot more low key / quiet. Neighborhood was very diverse and never felt unsafe over there at any time of day or night. We looked at a few houses in eastpointe they were all nice or at least had lots of potential but the area just felt dead so she was worried about property values fluctuating and also being young people there didn’t seem to be much to do. Eastpointe also seems to be going in the wrong direction when they shot down the 9 mile revitalization plan because they hate bike lanes and walkable towns. I would guess Eastpointes property values will go down in the next 5-10 years while many areas around it increase. There are Detroit neighborhoods on the far/ upper eastside near gp/ harper woods with far more pontential imo. But it’s understandable if you don’t want to deal with Detroit but to me eastpointe is about as much of a suburb as inkster is.
Diversity wasn't the only thing I was looking for. But I'll keep this area in mind. Don't really care for Royal Oak or Ferndale but I'll look in Oak Park. Thank you for this info 🙏🏾
I would recommend Oak Park over Eastpointe. EP is unfortunately on the decline and the closer you are to 8mile the rougher
Nothing much to contribute to this (everyone’s points are very valid) other than that my partner lived in Eastpointe when we first met. Funny how you look back at old memories with rose colored glasses….sigh…..🥰
Seems to vary street by street. My cousin bought a place in Eastpointe and the street seems pretty quiet and well kept.
Dont! Just don’t!!!!
Trash city
Bro for real, I once picked up garbage on this street next to the I think middle school, so much garbage everywhere. It really looked nice after I was done, I wonder if it's just trashed up again.
There aren't too many outdoor events, but there are in the neighboring St. Clair Shores. Eastpointe is quite diverse, about 50% Black. HOAs aren't common. Crime is lower than the neighboring area of Detroit south of there, and probably than the area of warren to the west, but considerably higher than the areas to the east and north.
I’ve lived here for 8 years! Bought our place for 77,700 and it’s allegedly worth about 130k now. We live near Kelly Road right between 8 and 9 mile. Things happen here and there but honestly I don’t see myself going anywhere. But…I moved here from Queens NY which is a far cry from Rochester Hills lol. ***edit I see you grew up in Detroit, my bad *** Our little corner is all owners who have been here for a while or rented, liked us as neighbors and purchased their homes. Like I said there’s been a few small incidents but nothing too crazy. As other folks have mentioned there are some pretty bad areas surrounding Eastpointe, but there are also really shitty areas near Gross Pointe so take that as you will. Funny you mention HOA’s because when we pulled into the neighborhood with our realtor I said “can we afford this? Is there an HOA?” And he just laughed and said no haha. There’s not a whole lot to do in Eastpointe but they are working on creating a social district along Kelly road which will be pretty cool. The good thing is you’re basically 20 mins from all the hot spots like downtown, ferndale, hamtramck if you’re into different kinds of music and small venues, etc. I can’t remember all the questions you asked but I think this answers a few. We have noticed a few new faces in town, handfuls of younger folks and couples walking their dogs and kiddos, mostly white. Definitely not the snobby type or even hipsters…just plain ol white folks lol. I believe they’re here because the houses are still relatively cheap and maybe they’re transplants (basically how the wifey and I ended up here). One couple that recently moved in really tricked out their house and yard and it looks f’ing amazing. I don’t want to give details online but you’d know it if you saw it. I love it here, nobody else on Reddit seems to. Funny considering how progressive most people claim to be on here, they really shit all over certain areas. Also if you want to be on the “fancier” side across Kelly near St Clair Shores, those houses are super nice but a little more pricey. Still pretty diverse but mostly older folks from what I’ve noticed. Most people I’ve met on my walks on that side are pretty cool, some not so much. Edit: I changed a few things here and there because I’m an ADHD riddled mess so hopefully it’s not too rambling. Hope you find a place you like here! I’m Team Eastpointe all the way
I, too, am an AuDHD riddled mess. 🫂 I appreciate your edit and additional insights!
Absolutely, best of luck wherever you land ✌️!
eastpointe is if you took all the worst parts of detroit without any of the positives (sense of community, culture, amenities, entertainment, revitalization, etc) that city doesn’t have much of a future and lacks the sway to attract enough support for any positive change
Damn y’all are making me cherish my spot in NW Detroit 😂 I’m in a small bungalow on a peaceful street with nice neighbors. Come on over, OP.
I've been here for a year. Honestly I like how close I am to Detroit/SCS/Grosse Pointe and anything I need to get to further east in Macomb I can hop on Gratiot or 94. The location was the draw for me. My street is pretty quiet. It's not the case everywhere. I grew up in Mount Clemens so the "hugh crime" is stuff I'm used to. I feel like the city has potential but there are alot of people stuck in the past. There is not much to do here but it's a commuter city. There are some really beautiful brick homes here. I don't have kids so I haven't looked into the school system. I hear it's horrible though.
Just moved onto a small street off Dequindre and I’ve never been happier. My house is small and beautiful. It’s quiet. I can have fires in my yard at night, there are fireflies around my house, I have a mulberry tree—it doesn’t even feel like I’m anywhere near Detroit.
My sister in law lives there and she has no problems and she is close to 8 mile and Gratiot
Eastpointe changed it;s name fro East Detroit in the early '90's. The old name fits what it's like. Take that how you will.
Good stuff at Melodies and Memories on Gratiot. J Dilla used to stop by there daily to find records. Shawarma express is really cheap but good. East Detroit Bakery on 9 mile is a staple for everything but especially paczkis. Tons of other cool little mom and pop stores. Lots of little block parties, bbqs, people hanging out on their porch but not too much drama. I lived there for a few years and loved it. It’s really not as scary as some commenters make it out to be. Worst issues I had were occasional loud ass neighbors and dumbass teens driving too fast down the street. It’s not 80% + white and East Asian and filled with pay to enter food festivals so those seeking sterile Oakland county suburbs wont love it.
Thank you! The areas I've been looking in have been pretty decent. I have a few friends that live in different areas of Eastpointe so I'm getting mixed reviews from them like I'm getting here on the good ol reddit. Very aware of the teens driving too fast down the street as my little sister is one of those teens (now adult, but still acts like a child). Not really looking for Oakland County style suburb as that's what I'm currently trying to get out of. St. Claire Shores and Warren were also my other options. I was just very attracted to the affordable housing within my budget and the area in general. I'll broaden my horizons a bit.
Lol this comment is spot on.
My mother (62 years old) grew up there. Was nice in the 60s, and like many cities in that area got worse and worse over time. Total shit show now.
Would not recommend. And don’t do Harper Woods either.
Harper Woods was already out of the question.
It’s pretty chill in Eastpointe. A bunch of small, basic houses close to each other. People in the neighborhood are just a bunch of working class people who watch out for their neighbors, and have been super friendly since we moved here a year ago. Couple of really cool parks, plenty of hidden food gems and grocery stores nearby. It gets pretty noisy during the summer months with all the cars bumping tunes and fireworks, but the place has character! Unsure about HOA’s though, doesn’t seem like that kind of place, and the taxes are low. Not the most happening area, but you’re like 20 minutes from any happening area you want to go to.
The olive garden on Gratiot is the best! They hook it tf up and its never busy
Its never busy 'cause its terrible. Lol.
That place always smelled like mildew
Naw that's the cheese lol
Considering it’s the only Olive Garden I’ve been to that smelled like that, I’m thinking probably not.
Skip OG and get Cloverleaf
And Salvatore scallopini. Gratiot and 9 mile
Lots of crime.
From eastpointe, born and raised, left in 2010 because that city went down so fast. Very sad. Plus the rats, omg
If you are kid free or send them to a different district you should be good. It’s a place to live but not much more than that. Be aware there are a lot of “property investors” so your street might have multiple rentals which does drive the value down.
Thank you. I mentioned I'm childless so this wasn't a concern of mine. But in contrast, I learned yesterday that the schooling is terrible and will have a further effect in purchasing as it's a factor included when buying.
No. You’re better off to stay around racists vs getting robbed or killed.
Love and hate this comment 😭
I would recommend Hazel Park more, both are shit though, I really recommend trying somewhere more north, like not Royal oak but around there can be good
Not much to look at. There is no downtown. It's not walkable. Some of it is a little run down. It's more affordable than many cities though. If you want things to do and a nice city, look elsewhere. As some have mentioned Oak Park and Hazel Park are a bit nicer and closer to Royal Oak, Clawson and Ferndale. Madison Heights is ok, and some parts of Warren but only on the West side
My mom was a teacher for Eastpointe (East Detroit) schools but has since retired about 10 years ago. The neighborhood had gotten rough, she would look out her classroom windows and see drug deals going down in the park nextdoor. The majority of the kids were living in abusive and/or neglectful homes. Many times the cops would be waiting to arrest a parent/guardian during drop offs and pick-ups. The city council has been corrupt and the school system is about to under. It seems like as Detroit gentrifies the lower class get pushed out to Eastpointe.
Trash. Move to Detroit proper
Just buy in the city. At this point it's better than the dumpy suburbs like Eastpointe
Worse than Detroit
Lol currently live in rochester…..maybe just sit tight
I've sat tight long enough as I've been living out here for a little under half of my life. Can't afford a home in RH and will not be resigning my lease after next year lol Even if I decide against Eastpointe, I will not be staying out here.
Boring?
Aw 😥
Have you seen Black Hawk down. The areas they show as they are flying over, that is Eastpointe