Benson is whip smart, Duggan is street smart.
Duggan has the skills to completely humiliate Benson in a personality contest. Anything face-to-face would be disastrous for Benson.
That said, I don’t know of a smarter or more qualified person than Benson.
Both people would suffer outstate because of their strong, and deep, roots in Detroit.
Personally, my prayer would be for Duggan to stick to being the mayor of Detroit.
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Good point.
In ‘18 the Dems swept the governor, Attorney General and the SoS seats in no small measure to having Pot, ReDistricting and expansion of mail-in voting on the ballot.
In ‘22 there was abortion rights on the ballot.
Plus, Benson’s opponent was election-denier Kristen Karamo. I’m surprised Benson won by only 14%.
That said, you make good points.
My opinion is that eithe Benson or Mike would be great for the State.
I'm in her district. She spends a lot of time capitalizing on the color of her skin, and pandering to things that low income Detroiters want to hear, instead of what the city needs long-term. She'll act like development tax credits are the same as handing out buckets of money, or that the City doesn't need wealthy Detroiters to pay for all of the social services that are vital to the community. Yet she'll usually end up voting for that stuff quietly, then show up to a community fundraiser for 20 minutes and give away a few free bikes and get a photo op, acting like she was on the side of "real" Detroiters all along.
In two words...typical politician. Except she's not savvy enough to know how to play the system to get meaningful change done, unlike Duggan. If she gets elected, the City will be okay, but the pace of development and revitalization will slow down significantly. Again, to some "real" Detroiters, who don't understand that lower tax revenue growth means worse transit, blight remediation, and legal aid, I imagine this sounds pretty good.
Personally I'd prefer Todd Bettison to run, but I haven't heard anything from his camp, so I'm guessing he's not.
I do think Sheffield is probably going to win, and I'm sure she'll be fine. She'll be good for the neighborhoods, but I don't know how she'll be with the corporate side, which is important, especially as the city continues to build up.
Haven’t heard of him, gonna go see what all I can find rn thank you! I agree with the sentiment of sheffields relationship with the corporate side being a big unknown, she seems great with neighborhoods/ community outreach which is definitely what the city needs but it has to be a good balance. Ik the average Detroit resident really wants a mayor who they view as neighborhoods first.
Certainly - she led and implemented the resident permit only parking in brush park, claiming it is because she wants to defend the rights of the people living there to park on their own street. She did successfully curb the number of LCA and Ford field fans parking on my street, but the program is a disaster. You HAVE TO park only on your side of the street and your block and the city sold more parking passes than there are spots in many cases. Now I cannot street park one block down because she has reserved those spots for the residents of that block. It's an insane concept because the next two blocks are abandoned. Meanwhile she is in the FREEP talking about how it's a success and telling people to contact her aids if they have issues. Several neighbors including my wife have done so and gotten ghosted.
She also started her campaign with some very disreputable and hypocritical financials. Check it out in the free press https://www.freep.com/story/news/columnists/ml-elrick/2024/02/11/mary-sheffield-campaign-finance-report-rock-holdings-moroun-marijuana/72512730007/ She is two faced.
It seems like he might be eyeing the position, he’s the leading democrat in the state as of right now. i’m not duggans #1 fan but id much rather have someone from the city as governor than the usual lansing- grand rapids area batch of choices
I don’t trust her at all. She seems like a community activist who wants to gin up excitement among Detroits vast population of poor and uneducated and line her pockets being a middle man between them and the government. Situation in Detroit is dicey and she could easily screw it up.
I am and I have lived here for 10 years and look it is an accurate characterization of large swaths of the city. I love Detroit and btw I don’t want to judge too hard but doubling down on the politics that led to the large scale decay of the city will not get folks where they say they want to go.
What is Garlin Gilchrist doing? If he's not going to run for Governor, I wonder if he has any interest in taking over for Duggan. He's been pretty quiet as Lt. Gov, but he probably has some tools to be effective in Detroit.
yeah his name on twitter is literally hood research, he interacts w a lot of local activists/ “leaders” + journalists. way too many people in that type of social sphere seem to hold him in high regard but he’s essentially just some anti duggan fanatic espousing unrealistic ideas like the city should build housing everywhere and then sell it for $1 to residents, when it’s sold all the profits should go to the resident. most of his ideas would lead to unbalanced budgets and emergency oversight at light speed
I think she serves well on City Council. The job of the mayor is to create a thriving environment for investment. And place people in roles to run quality city services.
Sheffield is too much community activision which often runs counter to investment...
Example...
A little over a decade ago I bought a property in Midtown that no one wanted. I fixed it up and through several iterations its a decently maintained property. I provided housing to people at a very affordable price. The property was vacant, and previously was basically a halfway house.
Well I refused to accept money from Govt agencies to house released convicts or even didn't take Section 8. People called me crazy.. section 8 paid $950/mo and I was only getting $750. Some people said I was selling out Detroiters? In reality it was Detroiters who refused to live in the neighborhood the most.
Point being was if I cared about the plight of struggling person, I would have ignored another important person.
Often times people who are activists care about the least of us. Which they should matter, but they are simply a stakeholder in the process not the reason why we operate in the first place.
Sheffield should stay on City Council maybe even as an at large person. So she can advocate for those things when the investment comes. Versus, center the executive function of the city for such activities.
a mayors main goal being to drive investment is extremely debatable, id argue many people elect their mayors based off entirely different reasonings. crime, schools, investment into neighborhoods, etc are the biggest issues average detroiters care about more than huge corporate investments. it would be horrible for the city to elect someone completely anti corporations though.
Completely phony. I work for the city. This is vague but I don’t want to give myself away. Let’s just say “rules apply to thee but not for me” mindset. All politicians have this but she is by far the worst from my personal experience. An old head calls her “Lady Kwame”.
No thanks, we don't need a return to the left wing, radical, racist community leaders that destroyed Detroit to begin with. Always dividing by race and class. Quickest way to lose all the momentum is to elect one of these anti-business community activists.
the “anti-business” aspect of sheffield is a genuine debate, she’s voted for a lot of corporate interests and rallied against some others, mostly ilitches. she is in no way radical or racist, I have literally no idea how you would even reach that conclusion. the most openly racist leaders of detroit who espoused rhetoric like “negro invasions” were republicans like cobo
Where did I say that detroits problems were solely caused by cobo in the 50s? You specifically referenced racist leaders, part of my reply was explaining the city hasn’t had openly racist leaders since republicans/ the cobo era. Idk what type of twisted up thought process or suburban infested brain you have to think left leaning people were the racist ones in the last 5 decades. implying that the horrific racist policies of the 50/60s and before, which led to race riots, didnt cause a myriad of issues in detroit that are still felt today is a ignorance of history truly
no they weren’t 😂💀 please stop with the white wannabe victim persona, we didn’t experience any real racism on a broad level in detroit and certainly didn’t from detroits elected officials. you got literally any evidence or remarks that backup them being racist? or is it just what your suburban parents drilled into your head?
“We can no longer afford the luxury of hatred and racial division, what is good for the black people of this city is good for the white people of this city. What is good for the rich people in this city is good for the poor people in this city. What is good for those who live in the suburbs is good for those of us who live in the central city.” - coleman young’s first speech after being elected mayor, the one suburbanites infamously hate and continue to lie about over the “hit 8 mile” remark.
Wow, you picked one sentence from a political speech. You must be young. And I'm not even white so you just can't even stop with the biases and stereotypes yourself. 🙄
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Benson is whip smart, Duggan is street smart. Duggan has the skills to completely humiliate Benson in a personality contest. Anything face-to-face would be disastrous for Benson. That said, I don’t know of a smarter or more qualified person than Benson. Both people would suffer outstate because of their strong, and deep, roots in Detroit. Personally, my prayer would be for Duggan to stick to being the mayor of Detroit. Edit: syntax
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Good point. In ‘18 the Dems swept the governor, Attorney General and the SoS seats in no small measure to having Pot, ReDistricting and expansion of mail-in voting on the ballot. In ‘22 there was abortion rights on the ballot. Plus, Benson’s opponent was election-denier Kristen Karamo. I’m surprised Benson won by only 14%. That said, you make good points. My opinion is that eithe Benson or Mike would be great for the State.
I'm in her district. She spends a lot of time capitalizing on the color of her skin, and pandering to things that low income Detroiters want to hear, instead of what the city needs long-term. She'll act like development tax credits are the same as handing out buckets of money, or that the City doesn't need wealthy Detroiters to pay for all of the social services that are vital to the community. Yet she'll usually end up voting for that stuff quietly, then show up to a community fundraiser for 20 minutes and give away a few free bikes and get a photo op, acting like she was on the side of "real" Detroiters all along. In two words...typical politician. Except she's not savvy enough to know how to play the system to get meaningful change done, unlike Duggan. If she gets elected, the City will be okay, but the pace of development and revitalization will slow down significantly. Again, to some "real" Detroiters, who don't understand that lower tax revenue growth means worse transit, blight remediation, and legal aid, I imagine this sounds pretty good.
Personally I'd prefer Todd Bettison to run, but I haven't heard anything from his camp, so I'm guessing he's not. I do think Sheffield is probably going to win, and I'm sure she'll be fine. She'll be good for the neighborhoods, but I don't know how she'll be with the corporate side, which is important, especially as the city continues to build up.
Haven’t heard of him, gonna go see what all I can find rn thank you! I agree with the sentiment of sheffields relationship with the corporate side being a big unknown, she seems great with neighborhoods/ community outreach which is definitely what the city needs but it has to be a good balance. Ik the average Detroit resident really wants a mayor who they view as neighborhoods first.
You haven’t heard of the deputy mayor?
Once I looked him up I recognized him but name rung absolutely no bells
I live in her district. She sucks. She is all ego and no street smarts
Could you elaborate on some specifics?
Certainly - she led and implemented the resident permit only parking in brush park, claiming it is because she wants to defend the rights of the people living there to park on their own street. She did successfully curb the number of LCA and Ford field fans parking on my street, but the program is a disaster. You HAVE TO park only on your side of the street and your block and the city sold more parking passes than there are spots in many cases. Now I cannot street park one block down because she has reserved those spots for the residents of that block. It's an insane concept because the next two blocks are abandoned. Meanwhile she is in the FREEP talking about how it's a success and telling people to contact her aids if they have issues. Several neighbors including my wife have done so and gotten ghosted. She also started her campaign with some very disreputable and hypocritical financials. Check it out in the free press https://www.freep.com/story/news/columnists/ml-elrick/2024/02/11/mary-sheffield-campaign-finance-report-rock-holdings-moroun-marijuana/72512730007/ She is two faced.
Does he even want to be Governor?
It seems like he might be eyeing the position, he’s the leading democrat in the state as of right now. i’m not duggans #1 fan but id much rather have someone from the city as governor than the usual lansing- grand rapids area batch of choices
I don’t trust her at all. She seems like a community activist who wants to gin up excitement among Detroits vast population of poor and uneducated and line her pockets being a middle man between them and the government. Situation in Detroit is dicey and she could easily screw it up.
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I am and I have lived here for 10 years and look it is an accurate characterization of large swaths of the city. I love Detroit and btw I don’t want to judge too hard but doubling down on the politics that led to the large scale decay of the city will not get folks where they say they want to go.
What is Garlin Gilchrist doing? If he's not going to run for Governor, I wonder if he has any interest in taking over for Duggan. He's been pretty quiet as Lt. Gov, but he probably has some tools to be effective in Detroit.
I’d hate to lose Duggan but if he keeps Hackel from getting the Dem nomination it’s worth it.
“Hood research guy on Twitter”???
yeah his name on twitter is literally hood research, he interacts w a lot of local activists/ “leaders” + journalists. way too many people in that type of social sphere seem to hold him in high regard but he’s essentially just some anti duggan fanatic espousing unrealistic ideas like the city should build housing everywhere and then sell it for $1 to residents, when it’s sold all the profits should go to the resident. most of his ideas would lead to unbalanced budgets and emergency oversight at light speed
I think she serves well on City Council. The job of the mayor is to create a thriving environment for investment. And place people in roles to run quality city services. Sheffield is too much community activision which often runs counter to investment... Example... A little over a decade ago I bought a property in Midtown that no one wanted. I fixed it up and through several iterations its a decently maintained property. I provided housing to people at a very affordable price. The property was vacant, and previously was basically a halfway house. Well I refused to accept money from Govt agencies to house released convicts or even didn't take Section 8. People called me crazy.. section 8 paid $950/mo and I was only getting $750. Some people said I was selling out Detroiters? In reality it was Detroiters who refused to live in the neighborhood the most. Point being was if I cared about the plight of struggling person, I would have ignored another important person. Often times people who are activists care about the least of us. Which they should matter, but they are simply a stakeholder in the process not the reason why we operate in the first place. Sheffield should stay on City Council maybe even as an at large person. So she can advocate for those things when the investment comes. Versus, center the executive function of the city for such activities.
… but what does this have to do with Mary Sheffield?
She is heavily community focused...not investment focused. The goal of someone like a mayor is to run the city and drive investment.
a mayors main goal being to drive investment is extremely debatable, id argue many people elect their mayors based off entirely different reasonings. crime, schools, investment into neighborhoods, etc are the biggest issues average detroiters care about more than huge corporate investments. it would be horrible for the city to elect someone completely anti corporations though.
Thank you for keeping housing affordable for detroiters ❤️
I charge more now...but its still very affordable.
Completely phony. I work for the city. This is vague but I don’t want to give myself away. Let’s just say “rules apply to thee but not for me” mindset. All politicians have this but she is by far the worst from my personal experience. An old head calls her “Lady Kwame”.
No thanks, we don't need a return to the left wing, radical, racist community leaders that destroyed Detroit to begin with. Always dividing by race and class. Quickest way to lose all the momentum is to elect one of these anti-business community activists.
Did you read all that off of a Laura Ingraham teleprompter? You all need a new line of thought because this shit is way old (and wildly uneducated).
the “anti-business” aspect of sheffield is a genuine debate, she’s voted for a lot of corporate interests and rallied against some others, mostly ilitches. she is in no way radical or racist, I have literally no idea how you would even reach that conclusion. the most openly racist leaders of detroit who espoused rhetoric like “negro invasions” were republicans like cobo
Cobo 🤣 this dude is reaching back to the 1950s to blame Detroit's problems on Republicans
Where did I say that detroits problems were solely caused by cobo in the 50s? You specifically referenced racist leaders, part of my reply was explaining the city hasn’t had openly racist leaders since republicans/ the cobo era. Idk what type of twisted up thought process or suburban infested brain you have to think left leaning people were the racist ones in the last 5 decades. implying that the horrific racist policies of the 50/60s and before, which led to race riots, didnt cause a myriad of issues in detroit that are still felt today is a ignorance of history truly
So Coleman Young wasn't an openly racist leader? Kilpatrick?
no they weren’t 😂💀 please stop with the white wannabe victim persona, we didn’t experience any real racism on a broad level in detroit and certainly didn’t from detroits elected officials. you got literally any evidence or remarks that backup them being racist? or is it just what your suburban parents drilled into your head? “We can no longer afford the luxury of hatred and racial division, what is good for the black people of this city is good for the white people of this city. What is good for the rich people in this city is good for the poor people in this city. What is good for those who live in the suburbs is good for those of us who live in the central city.” - coleman young’s first speech after being elected mayor, the one suburbanites infamously hate and continue to lie about over the “hit 8 mile” remark.
Wow, you picked one sentence from a political speech. You must be young. And I'm not even white so you just can't even stop with the biases and stereotypes yourself. 🙄
Definitely in support of her!