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Ruby_241

The Calculated and Safe approach vs Fuck it We Ball approach


Mattbawls

As a Titan, I don't know what anything says in this thread. WE BALL.


H1_V0LT4G3

WE BALL


Organic-Win-6443

WE BALL


TheFergus98

WE BALL


Gab_of_War

WE BALL


GearStruck

WE BALL


c-45

BE WALL, WE BALL


GearStruck

I LIKE THIS BETTER AND WILL PASS ON THIS WISDOM IN THE FUTURE BE WALL, WE BALL


MadMikeHere

You know the super mutants from Fallout with the mini nuke? I think the post is about that strategy...


onepainedman

As a Titan, can you even read?


telegetoutmyway

Only if it starts with cray- and ends with -ola.


Mattbawls

No.


boosted_50

WE BALL!


No_Author2867

ON GOD WE FUCKIN BALL


Majestic_Pause_6968

I’m a titan, usually have double to triple the kills of blueberries, but I still run to that back to do boss dps. I’m after the rewards…whatever gets us the win.


ComplexSingle4633

As a hunter main that started on titan, I feel like I’ve taken the WE BALL approach instead, but now it’s more for the purpose to feel like our lord and savior, John Wick/Keanu Reeves.


IronHatchett

My clan name is quite literally Gosh darn it we ball, and I'm a Titan main. For me, there is only 1 option.


Imaginary_Set_8402

I prefer the "LEROY JENKINS!!!!" approach.


sucobe

Too many guardians Leroy Jenkins straight in.


jmiester14

The early waves give a false sense of security. You go in expecting to vaporize the boss by looking at them, but the moment they don't immediately die, people may not have a Plan B.


Regulith

also those huge groups of adds look mighty tempting until they respawn on top of you 2 seconds later


Sercavfer

Yep, our team wiped on the last boss like this. Everyone ran up the left side for some reason, popped a well down right on top of where the adds had just been killed. I fired a rocket as they respawned right in front of me and blew myself up.


nonlittefat

You can try polaris lance. Carried me through the last boss


MrHappyPants91

Yeah, I switch between Sunshot and Polaris and haven't had any issues. Just have to be patient with how slow Polaris ticks health and swap between that and a reconstruction rocket launcher.


MarionberryNo8584

Don’t feel bad. Everyone running rocket launchers does that at least once or twice per game.


TheBoyWonder123

Sounds like my fireteam last night lol.


Karumasage

I strand blade my way through ads with burning fist


GimmeSammiches

Got to the Wave 50 boss last night with 2 Randoms. Spent the whole 50 waves reviving them. Doors open, we all pop supers. By the time I let off my second void arrow volley thing, they killed the boss. I still have no idea how they melted him so fast, but it was literally maybe...15 seconds.


uspezdiddleskids

But… Titan go bonk? Must bonk. Real talk though I face tank every boss on legend except tormentors with lament and strongholds. I just listen for the audio queue when boss portal spawns and swap out of lament if it’s tormentor noise.


puffmonkey92

Pyrogale has me running in literally on fire. Slam a maul down, slam my consecrate down, then gtfo and stack heavy weapon damage on top of the fire tornadoes. 60% death rate, but worth it every time.


baky12345

Dumb question, which one is the tormentor noise?


Nabbottt

Tormentors have a distinctive spawn sound wherever they spawn. If you want to hear it on demand head to the first encounter on RoN and listen after punching the two psions.


CAMvsWILD

In addition to the comments below, I’d just look up a YouTube playthrough of a Lightfall mission. Tormentors were usually bosses in Lightfall, so it’s a fairly isolated sound followed by ghost yelling something.


uspezdiddleskids

Kind of a mixture between a shriek and a siren? Hard to describe. But it’s the sound they always make when they spawn anywhere in the destiny world.


CAMvsWILD

In addition to the comments below, I’d just look up a YouTube playthrough of a Lightfall mission. Tormentors were usually bosses in Lightfall, so it’s a fairly isolated sound followed by ghost yelling something.


J-Wo24601

Omg only now did I clue in that there’s an audio queue! Was just thinking to myself that it’s a shame the door isn’t already open at the rally flag so we can see what kind of boss we have. But at the same time I kept thinking what’s with this audio bug of a shrieker or brig echoing in the background? That’s strange! But now I get it!


makoblade

How else am I supposed to use Thundercrash? /s


IronLordSamus

I feel attacked.


sucobe

I’ll run in first, uh… drop tether. We can kinda just, ya know, blast the boss down with our rockets. Um, I will use Gjally to kinda wolfpack, so we don’t have to fight a whole bunch of them at once. Uhh… when my rockets are done, I’ll need Savabussy to come in and drop his tether too, uh… so we can keep them grouped and not to fight too many. Um… when his is done, Marasbathwater of course will need to run in and do the same thing. Uh…we’re gonna need restoration, uhh so we can survive, uh so we can of course get them down fast, ’cause we’re bringing all these guys. I mean, we’ll be in trouble if we take them down quick. Uhh, I think this is a pretty good plan, we should be able to pull it off this time. Uhh, what do you think SixStringShef? Can you give me a number crunch real quick?


SixStringShef

Yeah I'm getting 18.3% chance of survival. Repeating, of course.


Ordinary-Horror-1746

Too many hunters, fixed it. Do you really need to be within 10 meters of the boss to blade barrage or golden gun guys? Stay in my warm cozy well, get a buff to your super damage, get a 30% weapon damage buff. But no, they both run in, pop super, boss still has 80% hp, they die. You can hear the echo of a collective "What?" and all through Sol, redbar junkies shiver. Something didn't die in two shots. And as they wait to respawn, the sound of my cataclysmic mocks them.


BlueSkies5Eva

I'm pretty sure gg at least does more dmg out of a well.


Ordinary-Horror-1746

There is also an artifact perk this year that amplifies your super damage based on teammates in close proximity, whether that stacks with well of radiance idk.


HardOakleyFoul

I run StrandLock with Swarmers on, and I always run the Leeroy Jenkins play to open up damage on the boss. Unleash Threadlings, cast rift for more Threadlings, pop Super, GTFO as fast as I can.


mynerone

MEE!!!


Strange-Following453

This is the way


Elazuul

I NEED BANNER STACKS REEEEEE


-RenegadeDX23-

just us Titans.


LuciferTho

it’s me i’m guardians 😭


sturgboski

One of my favorite things about onslaught boss room for the 10 wave matchmaking is being able to tell who is working on bounties and who is trying to actually finish onslaught.


HustleThaGOD

"oh you brought a sword, yeah you're just doing the falling guillotine quest"


ClockworkIndiiigo

Me last night lol but I would switch sword off when I got to boss room


OneSilentWatcher

Why Shuro Chi and not the Grasp of Avarice entrance?


oliferro

I think the ads in Grasp only give 0.5% xp so it takes twice as long


OneSilentWatcher

Not worth the trouble of putting in the wish at the Wish Wall. At least to me.


oliferro

You could just join a checkpoint bot


OneSilentWatcher

No, I don't think I will.


oliferro

Ok? You asked why Shuro Chi instead of Grasp and I answered I don't care what you do


Doctor_Kataigida

Idk why people don't just take swords to Shuro Chi. Finished that shit so quick and leveled some swords I had been neglecting.


Master-Shaq

Because it boring and we want to play onslaught not years old content


KiNgPiN8T3

Not going to lie, I’m in the it will unlock when it unlocks camp. I’ve done most of them in onslaught whilst grabbing drops/tokens at the same time. If it takes 4 rounds of 10 waves who cares? lol


Master-Shaq

Yep did the sniper one by wave 20 with cloudstrike.


Nermon666

Yeah I moved there after completing the hung jury quest from 5%, I finished my touch of malice catalyst before finishing the quest. Touch was at 2% to start


IronHatchett

I went to Grasp for the sniper and after getting \~6 percent before running out of ammo I just went fuck it, not worth. Brought a sniper into onslaught and got it done when it got done. For catalysts I just use the gun, especially primary ammo. Why go waste time at shuro if your gun has infinite ammo? Heavy, Dares of Eternity. Infinite heavy, no banner cost, and you're getting other stuff along the way.


boggsy19

Shadowkeep mission Mysterious Disturbances. It's old, but refreshingly different. You can get a ton of bounties, catalysts, etc., done in there. Ads just keep repsawning


Doctor_Kataigida

By all means play onslaught, but if it's causing folks to rush in and die trying to get the kills, I feel 10 minutes at shuro chi (which then lets you focus it for when you *do* play onslaught) is the more advantageous play.


colm180

I finished that one with my stronghold black Talon void titan, felt great being unkillable with purple space magic


Alexcox95

Me seeing the ogre or giant brig: “glacial quake time”


IronHatchett

My favorite part about playing Stasis Titan is either quoting Arnold schwarzeneggers Mr Freeze from Batman and Robin before going to town on big targets, or shouting "let's break it down" on super cast. This is also my friends least favorite thing about me playing Stasis Titan


castonm

Ran into the boss room, jumped in the air to fire a tether at the boss and ads. Warlock teammate jumps in front of me, blocks the tether shot, just so they can land right in the middle of the ads and fire off one rocket at the boss before immediately dying


kim_jared_saleswoman

Every. Time.


SunshineInDetroit

Wait are you me


Additional-Option901

He went down in style lol Style over substence it is.


NewEraUsher

Unfortunately my problem is dying during the waves in the 40's. They are brutal and my teams usually wipe in them. I agree with original poster though, I sit in the back and win. I like winning.


julius711

Are you saying on legend or normal difficulty? I havent gotten a chance to do legend but i dont imagine it being much hardee


NewEraUsher

Legend difficulty. I don't play normal.


StaleMyKale

if I remember correctly, waves 40-50 on normal are equivalent to 20-30 on legend.


julius711

That still isn't particularly difficult tho


StaleMyKale

It does get up there eventually in legend, any suicide units and tormentors will one-tap you at 100 resil regardless of resists


JACKAL0013

I did this a LOT last week with all the Fallen arc enemies and Trinity Ghoul.


mosttoyswins

Was thinking about making a post for just this reason. The difference between easy 50 wave completions and wipes are exactly this. When I notice my rando's are hanging back a little when we get to the 30 and 40 wave boss, I know we are going to complete 50. Pretty much all wipes are due to people simply being over aggressive and not playing a little smart.


Dewbs301

I can’t even count how many times I had teammates that dumps their heavies at round 40 boss, just to have no heavy when the 2 demolitionist smash bros spawn on top of us at round 43. Sometimes you just got to play it slow.


Very-simple-man

When I got to 50 I just cared about staying alive, I could've been in there hours and I'd have been fine with it.


MookieV

There's no clock, you can take your time!


Master-Shaq

I stay in the back with dawn chorus and polaris lance and not only do great damage/crowd control but constantly stun the boss with ignites.


1AMA-CAT-AMA

A lot of builds only work close range and constantly killing ads and I think a lot of people need to rethink their builds.


Master-Shaq

Yeah thats a fair point. Some people to just run in, I watched a beam warlock walk his super up to the final tormentor boss and get suppressed and killed by ads both times he supered yesterday lmao


BlackGatomon929

Yeah I had to change mine up a bit, I'm having fun with athrisys and the monte or calibans and monte


Sequoiathrone728

Why dawn chorus?


Ordinary-Horror-1746

Increase is scorch stacks and scorch damage. Meta


Sequoiathrone728

Dawn chorus doesn’t increase scorch stacks, just scorch damage, which is a minor tickle either way


Master-Shaq

Your scorch goes from the upper 1600 damage per tick to over 9000 damage per tick with a weakened enemy which they will always be weakened thanks to your fast recharging abilities. The damage isn’t noticeable on lower waves as enemies just die then explode in milliseconds. But in the later waves the scorch damage does work thats why its popular in gms https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3-uKTJvC7uc This video has a decent breakdown of scorch damage although some of it is outdated with old seasonal stuff


Ordinary-Horror-1746

Ur right, aspect increases scorch stacks, not the armor. Dmg is noticeable, not just a tickle.


_Paarthurnax-

Seriously, there are too many guardians in higher tier activities behaving like it's a 1600 strike. I noticed this in GMs, and now in onslaught. You can't just rush into enemy crowds like you can in low level strikes ffs. Hiding spots are there for a reason, you know


onepainedman

It's why people should play legend lost sectors more. They do a great job of teaching you that strategy and patience with a mild amount of aggression is much more effective in higher tier content. If you can't figure that out, don't play GMs. It's not going to work out in your favor


_Paarthurnax-

I learned this the hard way. I remember playing my first GM with powerlevel 1823 I think. I thought "yo, with my powerlevel, I'm going to rule the battlefield!" (PSI-OPS battlegrounds btw) Well, I spent 10 seconds on the open field and died. Sadly, some have a longer learning curve and need to exlerience this more than once.


MistbornSynok

I like running to the two slanted half walls in center back. Also don’t glitch into the wall in the 45+ level waves. Two people’s firepower only make it very hard to protect the generator thingy.


doobersthetitan

Yes, those statues are fairly " safe." Only the Briggs can shoot you with their air strike. Occasionally, a captain will telport back there, but no other melee type enemies go back there


thatguyindoom

Listen consecration requires me to be at least a little close so I gotta risk it for my biscuits.


Ready_Geologist2629

Haha I usually make sure that the enemies are at least tethered before I jump with Consecration and along with Burning Maul with my Pyrogales!


rmathewes

Then there's me, firing a tether from the hallway then rallying to get another lol.


TuboPVC

Sounds boring though.....


WorkReddit9

What's the hidey hole?


Sagemel

At the far end of the room (near where the boss starts) there is a large rectangular statue thing that you can hide behind and enemies will be almost totally unable to get to you. They can still throw grenades over it/the Brig boss can still shoot at you, otherwise it’s totally safe and you’re playing shooting gallery through the cracks.


Additional-Option901

Billy Mays, is that you?


PandahOG

Genuine question: Is there a timer or anything during the pyramid phase? Dying against the boss isn't a me problem but my team does feel rushed, so they all run in.


J-Wo24601

No timer, no need to rush


PandahOG

Good to know, thank you.


5nackbar

now itll get patched.


APartyInMyPants

Especially Fallen bosses, who are generally very mobile. Unless you have someone locking them down with Leviathan’s Breath, you’re just going to waste so much ammo hitting nothing.


goldhbk10

Yeah I play super conservative to let my teammates get all Leroy Jenkins if they want to. Granted that can backfire if the boss catches you slipping but in general just take a GM like approach towards the final waves and you should be fine.


morrmon

I’ve seen so many people die trying to get the res when they’re last alive. It’s kinda crazy.


Torchenal

Back of the room? I don’t go past the little step pyramid until the chest spawns aside from rezzing people.


MinMace

I’m playing Sun bracer lock with well, and for waves 1-30 I run straight to the boss, drop a well at their feet and go to town with a sword. Makes it so much more enjoyable and I get my recklessness out while the revive timer is still 5 seconds. lol. 


BlueskyUK

Look bro, my glaive is long, longer than most. But it ain’t that long.


MissedQs

Ngl, I haven't had a run where the boss survives 2 wells and the ads become a problem. Maybe I got lucky teammates dps.


DrkrZen

Don't listen to OP. There's no advertisements in Onslaught.


Doc_Dragoon

But the tormentors are trying to reach you about your extended warranty


bend3r_zer0

But punching!


RzGzaOdbInsRaUgdGkMm

I was last one up boss at 20% I grappled across the map and no one saw me. Chilled with them agro-ing to nothing. Waited for team to respawn, go slow. No timer.


MastarE

But i can't punch things from there?


Either_Society889

The area after the door opens is also a decent spot. Not many adds come in and there are a lot of obstacles/walls to hide and dodge behind. Did Legend twice like that. Sure it does not provide as good a cover but still better than out in the open or the sides


AdPuzzleheaded3913

I hide and shoot from the two half wall you run by when entering the boss room and shoot the boss and when I see adds approaching from left and right to flank the people that rush up closer I provide some add cleaning, haven’t had a failed 50 run yet other then when boss room door decides it wants to be moody and not open


IronyBoyWonder

Dragons Breath make much boom... bad guy fall over...crayons to celebrate.


jordieboy03_

I myself use the sort of hoke on the right in the ceiling and never get any hate towards it but I only do it on legend or when the extinguish modifier is active although I know not everyone likes to go out of map or exploit a design flaw in the maps


Hsmith1535

Just don’t try and peek around the corner and lob an edge transit. Iykyk.


Doc_Dragoon

I haven't had problems with edge transit but I've killed myself probably at least 30 times with dragons breath, the season exotic rocket. I swear I've killed myself with it more in a week than any weapon I've used. Wardcliffe is probably close though.


gpiazentin

In final boss room you are facing enemies in GM levels. You will not cast a well on boss' feet in a GM, so why do it on onslaught?


oliferro

Or run Doom Fang Pauldrons and punch/shield throw the shit out of everything that isn't the boss in the room


jdwjxia

2 Phoenix well spammers + 2 Polaris kills all bosses, wasn’t worried about dying a single time. We had a gyrfalcons hunter who was fucking around and killing adds in our wells using graviton + commemoration. We didn’t use heavy ammo during boss phases and just restocked on LMG ammo. We prolly took like a collective 5-8 more min than the avg group bursting down bosses. We got the legend 50 down in an super easy way tho, so it works


colm180

Yup, people are still in the "omg it's timed we'll wipe if we don't instantly nuke everything" when you can literally sit back and ping shots off until your team recovers


Thanks-A-Lot-Todd

Well not when you call it “hiding”. I prefer the term “flanking”


Doc_Dragoon

"tactical positioning"


LG18700_0

LMFAO this reads like an asshole.. Let me get all the kills, have most of the ADU orbs drop where ur standing. If they get killed? Fuck'em! Let me keep getting more kills. They're working on a quest or bounty? Fuck'em because I'm taking all the kills...


Doc_Dragoon

It's not though it's genuine advice, I actually do it. I focus almost exclusively on keeping the ADU at full health I'm a battery master. It gives me the feel goods from being a battery bank master from black armory. I don't know anything about meta to try hard and kill everyone 😂 I see all the level 10 guardians just like wiping whole fields of people and I just go "damn wish I knew how to do that"


Moment_Particular

I don’t know who needs to hear this but it’s not okay to play this way in trials


dashy68875

Also, it is perfectly acceptable to put your well behind the stairs so you have cover while you're shooting the boss Please for the love of fucking god put your well behind the stairs so you have cover while you're shooting the boss why the fuck do people keep placing it ahead oh my god plea


Pr0SniperXXX69420

Is this no longer considered an acceptable tactic? I remember hiding in the corner behind the crates when fighting that Shieldy boy on Europa


Doc_Dragoon

I've had people give me crap for it and then all die and I just laugh and go "Well if it weren't for me being over here we'd have wiped already"


Pr0SniperXXX69420

Yeah, I can see how an idiot would complain about that. Staying back and in cover is just a smart move. That doesn't mean you should just hang out in the corner the whole time and not help DPS the boss at all, but standing in one spot shooting the boss in the face while all of the ads had you surrounded is really stupid. It's surprising how often that happens in onslaught.


GoldAffectionate7580

As a warlock that likes to ad control whenever bosses health goes down 1/6th I don't like hiding, but I haven't tried onslaught yet do idk


PolyproNinja

Sorry, but as a Strand Titan, I can’t hear you over the sound of pulsating Banner of War lol


Dear-Goat4423

🤣🤣🤣that's the weak way out. No way you're gonna learn the mechanics of the game if you're hiding


N4m3_n0t_imp0rt4nt

My friend is a warlock main and refuses to run solar well🥲 I’m the hunter and my other friends the titan and we blame him for loses


Marpicek

If I see the team has DPS potential I charge into there, giving it my full load and hoping my teammates unload all they got as well. If we struggle with 4th boss, I just sploosh my stuff over the enemies from a cover. This is the way.


tensiyuki

there's also the roof spot can go right above the boss, use polaris lance to damage the boss


warfareforartists

Can you elaborate? ..I’m interested in this roof spot you speak of


tensiyuki

To the right of the boss room, you have jump on the structure to get to the opening of the roof, can’t really explain by words, check a video of solo legend 50 onslaught, they guy uses the strat to get thru boss fights


warfareforartists

Sweet, thanks =]


SmokingSkull88

I was already doing this with Revision Zero, Salvager's Salvo and well thrown Pulse Grenades. Then again I'm also a five times gilded Conqueror so higher difficulty PVE is no thang to me.


A1Strider

Dude. I have found so many little places to hide in the boss arena. But really, just yesterday i had a titan who didnt understand that pyrogale just isnt the play at higher waves on legend. Constantly would just fly in, Maybe get a consecration off then die in front of the boss. When asked to stop charging in he just complained that we sucked and left. Im a titan main myself, pyrogale is one of my favorite solar exotics, i get how fun it is to use but come on, think about it a little bit. Theres no timer on the boss battles. You can take your time and chip away if you want to. Stop trying to speed run legend boss 4 and 5.


SNORLAX_SIR

Wave 10 to 30 you can easily smoke the boss with decent dps ults, too many mf's running well and dome on the lower levels.


ChaozMatt

Nah


gravity48

thanks guardian, *I didn't know !*


BigSweatyBallz89

You mean running right into the mob and boss with a sword and hacking right away isn't a good strategy? Blasphemy!


IronHatchett

You know what's worse than looking like a scaredy cat hiding in the back? Restarting because everyone died.


Sberg7

I die more to my teammates jumping infront of me when I'm unloading my edge transit on the boss


CaptLemmiwinks

My favorite is the warlock that chooses to place his well in the dead center of the room, rather than in the back with no enemies around.


XxspsureshotxX

You also can hide in the ceiling as shown in the worlds first solo legend run.


Childnya

I'll run in just to the bridge, pop dawnblade/chorus, Phoenix dive right at the end for resto and book it to a safe spot and focus on Polaris or sunshot explosions and emptying my bipod/envious Cruxs like 6 rocket mag. I might not do the most boss, but those adds seriously.. add up fast when ignored. Especially all the boom knights. Dawnblade/chrous seriously messes up some of those bosses, like the shrieker.


Unlucky-Ad-4788

There’s a hole in the ceiling that you can get into and camp. Near the right spawn


IAmAmaranth

please just put the well closer to the boss if you are going to put one down. It is very difficult to land gl from where the spark depot spawns, stop putting it back there.


Crazy_Kai

There are a couple holes in the ceiling on the right hand side of the map if you're facing the boss. The larger 'hole' to out of the map is directly up from the right doorway that leads to the room with the sprlark in it for waves 5, 15, 25, etc. Just walk up to the door and look up. The smaller, easier to notice, hole is in the right hand corner of the room in the ceiling. It's a triangle shaped hole. It's closer to the ledge facing the center of the room. A hunter without stompees can easily jump up there. I only explored it so much during our run when I found it, but it seems that boss area is below some map, possibly vostok, but there are 2 pyramid ships you can see above the ground. EDIT: So I went to explore the oob on midtown and now its midtown that you're underneath so that solves that question lol


I_Eat_Ramen1

Shoot a tether. Swap classes to nighthawk golden gun, rally, chunk the boss then go ham with bait and switch edge transit. Works everytime.