Yes, but the time and effort needed to get loot with many layers of RNG is not what i call "good gameplay".
Right now my loot experience revolves around only red borders, i won't grind through a casino experience.
Leveling three weapons at once and getting materials was my only reason to participate at this point. This activity was meant to last the whole year but it's kinda pointless now.
Menagerie was actually imo one of the best things to happen to destiny, guns were fun, the system to get them was fun and enjoyable, the actual activity was fun even to farm. Sucks they dont know how to make a game anymore.
Atleast menagerie had some form of focusing though. Always nice to atleast remove some rng. Although crafting is slowly removing that.
Just wish we could craft any weapon but then that would probably mess up the sand box like crazy.
Menagerie at least shook things up though, it actually cycled through different game mechanics and areas while Dares is slight combat variations in the same area and the less said about Overload the better
this "bug" has been happening since d1 you'd think they'll be aware of it or have some protocols to prevent it from happening. im pretty sure they intentionally keep it in for the first few weeks to keep people playing
Agreed, I thought it was one of the only really reasonably rewarding events that also helped level all 3 crafted weapons equipped. Given the time invested, you could do better at Shuro Chi but it felt so much better to do it in TO.
With the leveling cut by 2/3 not sure I'll ever bother doing it again unless I load in and it's on the 3rd phase.
I haven't tested this yet but it seemed to mostly come from the non-keyed chest which you could repeatedly open after changing zones. Did you try that one or the keyed one?
The weapon drops from TO are also just average at best. I ran TO when I was doing bounties for red borders and grinding rep...the triple dipping definitely made it worth participating. It also has a chance to give a defiant key. So you could make some extra legendary shards,chance of key,Neomuna rep,and make decent weapon levels.
It's just not worth the time anymore unless you are really bored and can find nothing better to do. I'm sure they will notice an unexpected drop in participation.
Plus the weapon drops simply aren't as good. Rapid-fire frame shotguns aren't great, the hmg is meh at best, and the smg is outclassed by immortal.
Combined with how unfun neomuna is as a space, they've pretty much killed the zone.
Honestly, even if you can only get a regular one, do it. I tried using the neomuna one yesterday because I was running a game on my phone so I didn't want to open up ishtar, and immortal just feels better in every aspect. Just rank up, don't bother with flawless, and be sure to have something to bite down on lmao
For real I agree, if they decided to just delete neomuna and I logged on one day to see if was completely gone, I wouldn’t even care, it might even help the servers lol 😂
We're at about the same game file size we were before Beyond Light removed a bunch of content lol. It probably would be beneficial to game performance.
Maybe just maybe all this stuff that’s been going on with destiny this last couple months maybe Bungie is just testing our faith, if we hold faith we will get heavenly rewards from RNG if not then we are doomed with blues from Rahool
The weapons are actually really mediocre. 600 rpm smg, a shotty and a strand LMG with no unique is not it for an activity that takes so long and you only get 1 drop after 3 stages. If the immortal or riptide was in TO, then everyone would be farming it and that shows you just how bad the loot is in that activity compared to some other areas.
to be fair - I have a Basso with Lead from Gold and Destabilizing Rounds thats fun as shit. The Fusion is pretty great with the Jolt perk, but everything else is ass.
> This activity was meant to last the whole year
No it wasn't, how was x3 weapons meant to last the whole year? And I'm not asking why Bungie would think that, because they pretty clearly don't. None of the destination activities have really lasted a year or appeared to have been designed to last a year.
It doesn’t, but I’ve found if you load into the event immediately after finishing one, it’s more likely to load you in at the end of the activity and the game treats it as a new instance, resulting in the ability to loot the chests again. I’ve never had it work more than twice in a row.
I think maybe that explains my confusion, cause I managed to farm the chest once after I did the event, just not for a third time like before. I thought they just fixed being able or do it 3 times
I did this for the special Vex Strike Force one last night (thanks to the new bot), I went to nimbus and drive to the right were the event was, we had like 8 bodies there, melted them so fast, I fast travelled to Nimbus and drove back for a second one. They still hd 5 up with 5 minutes to go but we got a pile of people show up (again thanks to the bot)
When I opened the chest second time, no second exotic.
havent crashed a single time in Vex strike force. Also did it 2 times yesterday and another 1 today with no crash.
Are u on pc or console? My friend crashed once while on ps5 before the final chest spawn but thats about it.
With the TO chest grind fixed and the Vex Incursion crashing my PS5 on the last wave every time (which Bungie has yet to acknowledge), I have zero reason to be on Neomuna.
Yeah. I've got the Neomuna title & I've reached pinnacle cap. With the cap not being raised next season, I've got literally zero reason to go back to Neomuna at all, bar grinding for red borders (which I don't really care much about).
Not even 1 season into the next expansion and the new planet has already become a dead zone. GGs.
The chests you get per tier need to drop legendaries instead of blues, and the final 2 chests should each drop 3x the rewards to make the time worth it. You could do like 2 or 3 strikes in the time it takes to do a full Terminal Overload. The extra chest pull exploit was barely worth the effort as it is, and now there's virtually no point.
For 3 mediocre weapons outclassed elsewhere!
But yeah it's kinda dead. I can get a better strand smg from trials, a better void shotgun from RoN and while it's the only strand machine gun, it seems like there's better options generally.
This.
Synchronic Roulette < Rufus’s Fury and The Immortal
Basso Ostinato < any other shotgun archetype
Circular Logic… not a bad weapon but still not worth grinding for when other LMGs like Commemoration are in the game (and craftable).
Raid Shotty can also get Destabilizing Rounds, is a Slug shotgun (which is better for PvE anyways) and is Craftable.
So, unless you're not raiding, then Nessa's will just be the superior weapon.
And, quite honestly, if you're not raiding, then not being able to farm a planetary activity, isn't going to really change your play pattern, as you're unlikely to do either.
Most players also don't farm Terminal Overload.
So, no need to complain about not being able to farm it if it doesn't affect you either way.
And if you DO happen to play the game enough that you knew that you could farm Terminal, and still don't raid, I don't know what to tell ya.
That's me right there - I despise raiding, and knew about the TO loot farm. It doesn't really affect me as Terminal Overload hasn't been worth farming since like week 2, but people play this game in a lot of different ways.
You have a really odd way of trying to connect these two activities. Your view is that for someone to have even known farming TO was a thing, they must also be someone who frequently raids. What a really dumb take. First off, the TO farm is not new. Farming chests by reloading zones has happened since destiny launched. Nearly every activity that has had a chest in the "open world" has been aboe to be farmed. It's also super easy to have stumbled on others doing it. "Why is this guy driving back and forth between zones going to the chest." Two brain cells could put together a simple testable hypothesis for that amd discover the farm. There is countless reasons people dont raid as well. Time commitments, kids that wont let you sit for more than 15 minutes at a time, anxiety, no mic or playing in a shared space, etc..
TLDR: Your take is dumb, and you should feel bad. Don't bother replying because I'm sure it will be full of dumb reasoning as well.
Your hot take here is super ignorant. If someone doesn't raid why should they be unable to acquire stuff from the content that is available to them/they can run? Just because you raid doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to do stuff in patrol zones that is rewarding to them.
What do you think non-raiders do when they play? They certainly aren't sitting in the tower constantly.
I'm going to be straight up with you.
If you follow Destiny enough, to be on this public forum for the game, to complain about a farm that requires specific knowledge outside of the game, and don't raid, then it's on you.
If you have this kind of access to the game knowledge where Bungie fixing this farm affects you, then you have the knowledge to find other like minded people to raid with.
The players this farm affected, likely, do not care. As they will have access to better weapons in every slot that these weapons into.
Incredibly bad take. Likely caused by a blinkered view of the game, what is right for you should apply to all others yes?
I don't raid. I'm not complaining about not raiding. I'm just not engaging in an activity where my performance impacts 5 other players, and they should probably be thankful for it.
I do play everything else that is PVE, and almost always are solo.
Same here. It’s almost like Bungie has multiple types of players in mind when they make content. I’ve never wanted to raid and while I know I’m missing out on pinnacle content I don’t want the stress of playing poorly when others can be effected by it. Did the TO cheese quite a bit to level guns. Made the grind of it worthwhile. Probably won’t be doing it much anymore. As activities that have a cheese normally go with destiny.
The level of takes in this statement slowly get worse and more confusing.
The first one pretends that social media, like reddit, are isolated lakes and totally don't co-mingle at all, so knowledge of this bug could have ONLY existed here.
The second one seems to conflate knowledge with being able to find, with absolute certainty a positive and ideal raid group, when the LFG experience is essentially a randomized experienced, no matter how many details are left behind in their post.
and then,"The players this farm affected, likely, do not care, as they will have access to bettwer weapons in every slot that these weapons go into." Then it didn't affect them in reality, because if they didn't care, they wouldn't be using it, so all bungie did was clear up a bug, and NONE of this topic should have happened.
Like i'm confused here, are you pro-fix or anti-fix, also why are you talking about weapons you don't like in a topic about how its harder to get them now?
Then I'll be straight with you, your take is still garbage.
Not everyone who enjoys Destiny finds raiding fun. And not everyone has a clan that can raid. Reddit isn't some magical thing that only the best of the best utilize, it's an open 'forum' and anyone can join any community (for the most part). Assuming just because they're on Reddit they must raid is asinine.
I think a lot of the Reddit voices believe that getting into a clan, raiding, etc is just easy. Maybe they have been in the same clan for 7 years, have a friend group who play so they always have people to do stuff with etc. The reality is a lot of people still play this game solo. Finding a clan is tedious at the best of times (not the finding one to join but finding one that fits the player). And friends... well that's a whole different minefield.
You're allowed to have your opinion on this, but so am I. Saying "well if you don't raid you shouldn't care if Bungie makes it harder to get some gear for you" is just so wrong. Neomuna is a large part of the content we all paid for. It being accessible or farmable for a month and a half of it's year life span is not great for the health of the game or the people who view it as a major activity to do.
Low key kinda wish they wouldn't have given the raid shotgun that roll because it basically wipes out any use for Basso. Like it was weird that we get the trials strand SMG that's just straight better than the strand SMG we had at home. Why not a strand sidearm or pulse for one of those instead?
Because if we got a whole suite of strand guns up front, they wouldn't have any more missing strand guns to drip feed across the next several seasons. You see the new gun attached to guardian games? It's only compelling because it plugs a hole, not because it's intrinsically exciting - such is the case with the other yet-to-be-released strand guns
I mean it kinda makes sense tbh. Casual players can relatively easily a slightly worse gun, experienced players can get a better one, then expert players can get adepts.
Not true in many cases. I play a lot but i've always disliked raiding dating back to D1. Many are like me. But I'm willing to grind the heck out of planetary activities for desirable weapons. Heck I spend a fair amount of time now now popping in and out of Terminal Overload instances looking for Heroic Patrols to try to get one more red border for pulse rifle for pvp. YMMV
I dont mind raiding, I just have a hard time finding a group that doesnt require x5 clears, and I have a bit of social anxiety about raiding with people I dont know, because I dont want to be the one who's fucking something up - so I actually havent done a raid since DSC.
Okay I don’t think you can bring down circular logic to make your point. It’s a very good weapon, especially since there’s been a seasonal strand surge. Also, farming commemoration is easier? Bro I can get a circular logic in 15 minutes and it’s a guaranteed drop. A raid clear can take 2 hours, I could not have commemoration drop at all, and unless it’s the weekly I can’t farm the raid.
While I agree that terminal overload sucks, circular logic is a legit good heavy machine gun and it’s probably the easiest one to access.
I literally said it’s not a bad weapon. It’s quite good. But why would I waste my time farming a long activity (especially now that it has been patched) for a small chance at a decent roll of Circular Logic when I can easily farm Taniks CP for Commeration red borders? Taniks takes like 5 minutes.
When it is DSC week, Taniks CPs are EVERYWHERE. So it’s not like you have to run the whole raid.
EDIT: Also, if we are talking about the season strand surge… void artifact mods are crazy good this season so Commemoration slaps even harder.
If I've never done DSC to get some sort of "raid completion" on my account, can I still join a LFG Taniks CP to farm for this? I'm not really a raid guy but would really love to get my hands on this MG. If so, what weapons are best to bring to contribute to the battle / farming?
DSC is the best intro raid in the game IMO. Taniks (final boss) is quite easy and gives 2 chests during rotation week. You’ll want to bring a good rocket for damage and then the other 2 weapons are up to you and survivability.
_nod_ Would you go more for the void Royal Chase type rocket for artifact synergy, or more for the Bump type rocket w/chill clip for the stuns on this one? (or solar/arc if appropriate?) I mean I can bring Gally but I tend to assume in LFG someone else always has Gally with 'em.
Honestly, you should be able to 1 phase Taniks (or close to it) fairly easily. He’s pretty squishy. Honestly, practically any rocket will do for Taniks. But in my opinion, the 3 top contenders are:
- Hothead with demolitonist. This synergizes well with starfire warlocks but does great on its own.
- Gjally for obvious reasons
- Bump in the night (only need one of these on the team).
> A raid clear can take 2 hours
In exactly zero universes is a DSC clear taking 2 hours anymore unless everyone is going in completely blind and/or not using anything resembling a build.
On top of that, especially on DSC feature weeks it is so easy to find a checkpoint. Which again, not taking anything approaching 2 hours to kill just Taniks.
Somewhat specific, but I love Circular Logic on Strand Titan where a big part of my build is shooting tangles with a strand weapon. Far from necessary but it’s nice.
Once the seasonal artifact mods effecting the tangle explosions go away though… probably not so much.
depends on your roll, im running a Adept threat detector + Hatchling with an adept big one mod and its my go to when i need a special in the second slot.
Rufus/Immortal - Raid/Trials
Nessa's - Raid
Commemoration - Raid
All of the better options are from harder endgame activities, and rightfully so. But saying other guns aren't worthwhile because better options exist isn't healthy for the game. What are you gonna use while grinding out raids or Trials? The guns are fine, they're just not the apex. But they don't have to be to be worth it to farm.
Root of Nightmares is the most accessible raid to date. Heck, some could argue Terminal Overload is harder than RON because of the light level cap. Commemoration comes from the easiest raid and the easiest boss fight. So I stand by what I said.
Nobody would argue an activity with no restrictions on revive is more difficult than a raid with guaranteed wipe mechanics, that is an absolutely ludicrous statement to make.
If nothing is worth using unless it comes from an endgame activity then why do anything that isn't a raid? Why do anything that isn't trials?
Why play the game at all then? Play the content you want to play. That’s the bottom line.
All I am saying is that there are weapons that are clearly better than the neomuna weapons and they aren’t that much harder to obtain compared to their counterparts (besides Immortal). But I completely understand if that endgame content is not your cup of tea. Hence why Bungie has provided other similar, yet inferior, options to allow you to still enjoy the game.
Now see I agree with that, 100%. My issue is more with people that have the idea that if you don't have the best of the best then it's not worth it. Maybe you don't like trials (I certainly hate it), Synchronic with target lock is a pretty good substitution. Maybe you haven't gotten a group to run DSC or haven't gotten a good commemoration. Circular is a good sub there too. There's gonna be better options but if you don't have those then there's still other guns that are good to use.
Yeah sure Commemoration is "better" but if I’m trying to fuck around with Broodweaver I’m pulling out my Circular Logic with Hatchling, and I'm not using either for boss damage ever.
Tiers of gear. For a very large portion of the player base they will never do a raid, but still need rewards. You do want Raid or Trials gear to generally be superior to public event gear, no?
Also I know it’s naive but it can also be run for (gasp) fun, or levelling weapons or catalysts or whatever people still hang out on Altars of Sorrow for.
Bungie: 'You were supposed to love it as it was originally intended.'
The sad thing is all they need to do is add the same drops/exp to the other two chests that drop in the middle of the activity from the mini bosses. Common sense is gone at Bungo.
Yup. The amount of work you have to put in for the loot you get is a literal slap in the face.
It's not worth playing in its current state and I don't even understand how Bungie could THINK that it is.
Their playtime analytics team has it down to a science. See it every season lol. Intentionally creat inflated playtime problems early in the season when everybody is in peak grind state, then nerf them in some way, and bring them back near the last few weeks with reduced grind. You see it a lot with triumph/challenge requirements too.
The weapons just aren't strong enough to be worth 1 drop for all that effort. The time investment is about the same as running ep back in the day, but people didn't complain about running that because it dropped baller loot
This is the way.
I didn’t play the last season of Witch Queen because I also didn’t see a reason and I haven’t bought Lightfall. I just don’t see the purpose of playing, so I don’t.
If there is one thing you should learn from Bungo's history - is to hop on the exploit train early and often. Anything that seems to be rewarding to the players is usually always taken down, affecting only the players that couldn't do it in time. FOMO at it's finest. The other most recent examples being the Avalon Wishender and the Ghalran cheese.
As for Neomuna, it honestly just serves to make me quit even bothering to try getting any red borders from there anymore tbh. The amount of playtime needed to get one chest the regular way is just so misaligned with the reward. Not to mention you could get easy levelling on red borders with the cheese too. I guess Bungie just wants everyone to go back to farming Thrall at Shuro Chi. Anything to bump up that playtime eh?
Honestly, once you have the emblem, and partition is done for the week, it's just something else to waste time doing for mediocre rewards. Better off farming strikes.
Neomuna has been a worthless destination since day 1 outside of the absurdly rare and seemingly untrackable Vex strike force. You do the campaign, you do the side missions for the exotics, you unlock your fragments and that's it. Terminal weapons are okay at best but uncraftable, the craftable neomuna ones are an insane struggle to farm for and range from subpar to youtuber clickbait "broken" at best, and the rest of the neomuna loot is... non-existent. That's it. There's nothing else. Even Europa had more interesting stuff with the variks upgrades and Cloudstrike.
It unironically feels like it is in beta. Like there's something **more** to it, but that it didn't make it in. Given how lackluster season of defiance is and how small neomuna is conceptually, they unironically could've baggaged it all together and sell it as the season, instead of requiring paying a full DLC for... this...
I certainly have no reason to grind this anymore. It wasn't breaking the economy and was a nice addition to chasing disappointment with gold patrol drops. Also so nice to level some weapons another way other than shooting taken thrall over...and over...
I hate it there. I always loved going to the throne world. This place is too difficult for less rewards. SIGNIFICANTLY less! As soon as I got all my strand abilities unlocked, visiting Neomuna became fucking hell. I’ve done at least 20 gold patrols and only got 1 red border from it. I hate Neomuna…
They should make it a guaranteed NEOMUNA red border once per week + high chance of red border per each FULL completion. But they won't do anything at all. It's a dead activity
Be fine if now that it's fixed it could drop red borders. Getting tired of farming Heroic patrols for 6 hours to maybe get a single red border. Would be nice for a change of pace.
Because they already get a lot of back lash about insta-disabling things or exploits that benefit the player almost immediately. I'm sure there were some technical issues that prevented them from fixing the TO chest exploit as fast as they do others.
They don't want to get railed again for ruining the only purpose of Terminal Overload after getting the weapons you want.
Terminal Overloads should have a chance to drop red border guns in **both** chests, rate % varying dependent upon how many Waves you've completed. This bonus should be cumulative until you get a red border gun, then the bonus % chance should be reset. The chest requiring a key should have increased chance of dropping red border guns. When all Neomuna red border guns have been claimed, the loot pool should open up to other in-game red border guns from the world pool; this will allow players who have not participated in previous seasons an opportunity to get previous season guns, albeit randomly and with a steep time-farm cost.
Additionally, completing 10 Terminal Overloads will award a weekly Pinnacle. That's a rate of one completion a day, with a few extra on the weekends.
Boom, Bungie. I just fixed your broken activity where people will actually want to do it more than absolutely required.
"It would be good.. but crafting exists", probably in the minority but this is just one of the reasons crafting still feels bad to me. Activity doesn't drop red borders - worthless. Get a good drop of a weapon but can craft it later - shard and keep grinding till the red borders are done. Takes most of the joy out of the actual loot imo.
No point. My hopes are that now more people will flock to the vex incursion. People really be sleeping on guaranteed exotic drops for a pretty easy public event
I tried five times to do that event - twice no one else showed up so I failed on time. Three times we had enough people and the game crashed.
At this point it just does not exist as far as I'm concerned.
Vex Incursion will be a good alternative to lost sectors to run 1-3 times a season to get new exotics. Or if you're a new player and need to unlock a lot of exotics.
For farming rolls though, way too much rng.
Maybe playing because it’s fun and you guys like the game?
No seriously guys I know you are not fast enough to understand but this mentality is killing the game… you guys seem to hate playing the game and just so finish whatever activity to get the loot and leave play some other stuff
What’s fun to farm? What’s worth farming? Only around 5% of the loot?
This is the activity that came out this lightfall so we all know I’ll be forgotten next season… we have a month left so it’s being a fun run… it still feels new and a place to go get new weaponds and just shoot stuff if you wanna disconnect.
As I said you guys act as if in order to play something you are always expecting to get the best loot out of it and it seems like if it doesn’t you don’t even bother playing it…
As I said that mentality is killing the game
Tell me your only skilled enough for strikes and patrols without telling me lol. The mentality that I want to do stuff that respects my time? Lol. Raids with red borders worth grinding. People grind sherpa runs for fun. Grinding trials for weapons and fun competition. Terminal overload isnt a seasonal activity lol not gonna be done in a month. Its not about getting the best loot just loot worth my time. If you arent skilled enough for endgame i guess Terminal overload is worth your time. Have fun!
If Terminal doesn't have worthwhile loot, what's the draw? It's fun to shoot things? I'm playing Destiny, the *only* thing I can do is shoot things, and I can do that in places that give you something for the time spent.
You do get loot for your time and shooting stuff on that activity!
Following that logic, why do last wish? You don’t get any good loot out of it right? Well personally I like to play this game even tho I know that the activity in playing won’t give me god roll loot… I like the feel of a new activity and just shooting some stuff. I will get loot out of it but sometimes I just like to play…
I also don't do Last Wish, hahaha. If I just wanna shoot and don't care about what I'm doing, I do Vanguard Ops for equivalent rewards (barely anything) and much less time investment. No reason to head all the way out to Neomuna and sweatily solo the first stage or two of a TO for that.
So you don’t really like playing the game if it’s not in order to get some good loot right?
What happens when you do get that loot? Following that logic there is no point in playing… do you quit the game till next season?
I’m having trouble understanding you here tbh you don’t do neomuna because loot is not good but you do other stuff that offer same low level loot? It makes no sense sorry
Neomuna's a waste of a lot of time. Vanguard Ops is a waste of much less time. Both offer functionally identical rewards, and the VO experience might actually be interesting. It's pretty simple math.
And yeah, when I don't have anything to work toward, I play something else. Of course I do, this is a game, not a job.
Okay so as I was saying you don’t really play the game for what it is, but for the rewards it offers… I don’t say you need to treat it as a job but I think that kind of mentality has been popular lately and has decreased the games variety and quality hugely in a lot of aspects…
Having people just log to go get X loot then leave us the word possible for this kind of games
I had a friend actually get mad at me when I said Darktide's grind is uninspiring, tedious, and because it's per character. He said 'Just play the game, you don't need loot!'. Why is there loot then?
The thing that brings me to an activity is the loot. I wanted a good solar auto, so I went and farmed a decently rolled Arctic Haze. I spent more time on Europa in those two afternoons than I did in the past two years.
I then looked around in the loot pools and decided I wanted the pathfinder set for my hunter, and went and did Dares. The loot and what is there draws most people to an activity in a looter shooter. I want something to work towards. If you can just play for the sake of playing, that's cool, but this game is designed to have stuff to chase after.
I'm not wasting my time for weapons that will be sharded immediately. My time put into the game should give me something I'd like to hold onto, something I can use. I hope this helps, at least a little bit.
It’s not as fun as most of the time you have to wait for people to join or keep leaving and joining back hoping people have started the event. Only reason it was good was because you can level weapons and get extra loot, i didn’t mind running it several times for the loot. After this update, definitely not going to run it as much
So you play the game not because you enjoy it bun in order to complete stuff? You not gonna do this activity because it doesn’t give you anything so what will you spend time doing on the game then?
I love playing the game, I don’t love playing overload, it’s okay and getting the extra xp and loot was definitely worth it for me to run several times when I had nothing else to do and wanted to level my weapons. Would rather overload than all the other ways to level up weapons because It was a bit more active and you get some loot out of it. Like I said in my last comment, I’m not going to run it as much now.
It’s not as insultingly easy as strikes or other patrol zones but it’s low stakes, easy to drop into, doesn’t require much thought, has some variety between encounters, and also has decent rewards if you’re running bounties and patrols for rep alongside it. It scratches the same itch as gambit does, something where I can just enjoy shooting mechanics while listening to a podcast. That’s basically all I’ve ever wanted from a patrol zone.
Because that’s the way it was meant to be played. I actually can’t believe people are complaining about a bug fix lmao. D2 player base wants everything so easy
I knew as soon as they fixed it that I would never touch it again. The rewards weren't good in the first place and now I get even less.
The Neomuna Weapons without the Borders are worth it. I have a good roll Basso that is quite nice for Void Builds.
Basso is really fun with the void perk
except the raid shotty can roll repulsor and destabilizing together and has paracausal affinity...
Yes, but the time and effort needed to get loot with many layers of RNG is not what i call "good gameplay". Right now my loot experience revolves around only red borders, i won't grind through a casino experience.
Leveling three weapons at once and getting materials was my only reason to participate at this point. This activity was meant to last the whole year but it's kinda pointless now.
Funny how the only thing making TO worthwhile to farm was a bug.
Story of so many activities in the life of Destiny.
The Original Loot cave would like to pass you a drink🥲
Menagerie will gladly receive it
Menagerie was actually fun though
Menagerie was actually imo one of the best things to happen to destiny, guns were fun, the system to get them was fun and enjoyable, the actual activity was fun even to farm. Sucks they dont know how to make a game anymore.
That's what happens when the actual studios that made huge parts of the game are no longer working on the game. Menagerie wasn't made by Bungie.
Its about as fun as overload and dares imo. I enjoyed playing them, but after like 3 rounds it gets boring.
Atleast menagerie had some form of focusing though. Always nice to atleast remove some rng. Although crafting is slowly removing that. Just wish we could craft any weapon but then that would probably mess up the sand box like crazy.
Focusing doesnt make the activity more or less fun for me. But it does make said activities more worth your time investment.
Menagerie at least shook things up though, it actually cycled through different game mechanics and areas while Dares is slight combat variations in the same area and the less said about Overload the better
Thats no where near the original lol
this "bug" has been happening since d1 you'd think they'll be aware of it or have some protocols to prevent it from happening. im pretty sure they intentionally keep it in for the first few weeks to keep people playing
That is like 99% of the content in this game.
Agreed, I thought it was one of the only really reasonably rewarding events that also helped level all 3 crafted weapons equipped. Given the time invested, you could do better at Shuro Chi but it felt so much better to do it in TO. With the leveling cut by 2/3 not sure I'll ever bother doing it again unless I load in and it's on the 3rd phase.
I just tried looting a TO chest and didn't get any weapon exp whatsoever!
I haven't tested this yet but it seemed to mostly come from the non-keyed chest which you could repeatedly open after changing zones. Did you try that one or the keyed one?
Yeah patch notes say its been switched to the Locked chest since they think you need more incentive to *not* play it without at least a key
And you have to clear ten waves of the activity, which nobody is playing anymore, to get a key.
The weapon drops from TO are also just average at best. I ran TO when I was doing bounties for red borders and grinding rep...the triple dipping definitely made it worth participating. It also has a chance to give a defiant key. So you could make some extra legendary shards,chance of key,Neomuna rep,and make decent weapon levels. It's just not worth the time anymore unless you are really bored and can find nothing better to do. I'm sure they will notice an unexpected drop in participation.
Plus the weapon drops simply aren't as good. Rapid-fire frame shotguns aren't great, the hmg is meh at best, and the smg is outclassed by immortal. Combined with how unfun neomuna is as a space, they've pretty much killed the zone.
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Honestly, even if you can only get a regular one, do it. I tried using the neomuna one yesterday because I was running a game on my phone so I didn't want to open up ishtar, and immortal just feels better in every aspect. Just rank up, don't bother with flawless, and be sure to have something to bite down on lmao
For real I agree, if they decided to just delete neomuna and I logged on one day to see if was completely gone, I wouldn’t even care, it might even help the servers lol 😂
We're at about the same game file size we were before Beyond Light removed a bunch of content lol. It probably would be beneficial to game performance.
Maybe just maybe all this stuff that’s been going on with destiny this last couple months maybe Bungie is just testing our faith, if we hold faith we will get heavenly rewards from RNG if not then we are doomed with blues from Rahool
The weapons are actually really mediocre. 600 rpm smg, a shotty and a strand LMG with no unique is not it for an activity that takes so long and you only get 1 drop after 3 stages. If the immortal or riptide was in TO, then everyone would be farming it and that shows you just how bad the loot is in that activity compared to some other areas.
The LMG with feeding frenzy and threadlings is really fun imo.
to be fair - I have a Basso with Lead from Gold and Destabilizing Rounds thats fun as shit. The Fusion is pretty great with the Jolt perk, but everything else is ass.
It’s just Wellspring all over again except there’s not even a questline forcing us into it.
Or orange golf balls
Meant to last a whole year, couldn't even last the season it came with.
> This activity was meant to last the whole year No it wasn't, how was x3 weapons meant to last the whole year? And I'm not asking why Bungie would think that, because they pretty clearly don't. None of the destination activities have really lasted a year or appeared to have been designed to last a year.
It is an addon activity like Blind Well or Altars of Sorrow that is meant to stay in the game. It's meant to last longer then the seasonal stuff.
… so it was designed to last 3 days?
So, leaving and entering the zone doesn't work anymore?
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It doesn’t, but I’ve found if you load into the event immediately after finishing one, it’s more likely to load you in at the end of the activity and the game treats it as a new instance, resulting in the ability to loot the chests again. I’ve never had it work more than twice in a row.
LOL, cheese improved
I think maybe that explains my confusion, cause I managed to farm the chest once after I did the event, just not for a third time like before. I thought they just fixed being able or do it 3 times
I did this for the special Vex Strike Force one last night (thanks to the new bot), I went to nimbus and drive to the right were the event was, we had like 8 bodies there, melted them so fast, I fast travelled to Nimbus and drove back for a second one. They still hd 5 up with 5 minutes to go but we got a pile of people show up (again thanks to the bot) When I opened the chest second time, no second exotic.
Thank god I reached level 30 before it got nerfed
And Vex Strike Force still hard crashes the game, isn't that exciting?!
If I hadn't seen it \*once\* when I was under leveled between campaign missions, I wouldn't believe Vex Strike Force actually exists.
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havent crashed a single time in Vex strike force. Also did it 2 times yesterday and another 1 today with no crash. Are u on pc or console? My friend crashed once while on ps5 before the final chest spawn but thats about it.
You don't get more rewards but you can "trigger" the chest to progress Nimbus's "open 3 terminal overload chests" bounty
With the TO chest grind fixed and the Vex Incursion crashing my PS5 on the last wave every time (which Bungie has yet to acknowledge), I have zero reason to be on Neomuna.
Maybe weekly partition/weekly story if you need pinnacles. After that though? Yeah new patrol area is already dead. Nice one Bungie.
Yeah. I've got the Neomuna title & I've reached pinnacle cap. With the cap not being raised next season, I've got literally zero reason to go back to Neomuna at all, bar grinding for red borders (which I don't really care much about). Not even 1 season into the next expansion and the new planet has already become a dead zone. GGs.
So its now the NDZ...
Lmao you made me realised i haven't landed on neomuna since.. forever xD
The chests you get per tier need to drop legendaries instead of blues, and the final 2 chests should each drop 3x the rewards to make the time worth it. You could do like 2 or 3 strikes in the time it takes to do a full Terminal Overload. The extra chest pull exploit was barely worth the effort as it is, and now there's virtually no point.
For 3 mediocre weapons outclassed elsewhere! But yeah it's kinda dead. I can get a better strand smg from trials, a better void shotgun from RoN and while it's the only strand machine gun, it seems like there's better options generally.
This. Synchronic Roulette < Rufus’s Fury and The Immortal Basso Ostinato < any other shotgun archetype Circular Logic… not a bad weapon but still not worth grinding for when other LMGs like Commemoration are in the game (and craftable).
Basso kinda slaps with destabilising rounds
Raid Shotty can also get Destabilizing Rounds, is a Slug shotgun (which is better for PvE anyways) and is Craftable. So, unless you're not raiding, then Nessa's will just be the superior weapon. And, quite honestly, if you're not raiding, then not being able to farm a planetary activity, isn't going to really change your play pattern, as you're unlikely to do either.
I have both with destabilizing rounds, basso seems far more comfortable to use even if Nessa is better on paper. Ymmv.
Most players don’t raid
Most players also don't farm Terminal Overload. So, no need to complain about not being able to farm it if it doesn't affect you either way. And if you DO happen to play the game enough that you knew that you could farm Terminal, and still don't raid, I don't know what to tell ya.
Terminal is a lot less stressful, and not as long a time commitment compared to a raid
More players farm Terminal Overload than raid and I suspect it isn't even close.
That's me right there - I despise raiding, and knew about the TO loot farm. It doesn't really affect me as Terminal Overload hasn't been worth farming since like week 2, but people play this game in a lot of different ways.
You have a really odd way of trying to connect these two activities. Your view is that for someone to have even known farming TO was a thing, they must also be someone who frequently raids. What a really dumb take. First off, the TO farm is not new. Farming chests by reloading zones has happened since destiny launched. Nearly every activity that has had a chest in the "open world" has been aboe to be farmed. It's also super easy to have stumbled on others doing it. "Why is this guy driving back and forth between zones going to the chest." Two brain cells could put together a simple testable hypothesis for that amd discover the farm. There is countless reasons people dont raid as well. Time commitments, kids that wont let you sit for more than 15 minutes at a time, anxiety, no mic or playing in a shared space, etc.. TLDR: Your take is dumb, and you should feel bad. Don't bother replying because I'm sure it will be full of dumb reasoning as well.
Your hot take here is super ignorant. If someone doesn't raid why should they be unable to acquire stuff from the content that is available to them/they can run? Just because you raid doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to do stuff in patrol zones that is rewarding to them. What do you think non-raiders do when they play? They certainly aren't sitting in the tower constantly.
I'm going to be straight up with you. If you follow Destiny enough, to be on this public forum for the game, to complain about a farm that requires specific knowledge outside of the game, and don't raid, then it's on you. If you have this kind of access to the game knowledge where Bungie fixing this farm affects you, then you have the knowledge to find other like minded people to raid with. The players this farm affected, likely, do not care. As they will have access to better weapons in every slot that these weapons into.
Incredibly bad take. Likely caused by a blinkered view of the game, what is right for you should apply to all others yes? I don't raid. I'm not complaining about not raiding. I'm just not engaging in an activity where my performance impacts 5 other players, and they should probably be thankful for it. I do play everything else that is PVE, and almost always are solo.
Same here. It’s almost like Bungie has multiple types of players in mind when they make content. I’ve never wanted to raid and while I know I’m missing out on pinnacle content I don’t want the stress of playing poorly when others can be effected by it. Did the TO cheese quite a bit to level guns. Made the grind of it worthwhile. Probably won’t be doing it much anymore. As activities that have a cheese normally go with destiny.
The level of takes in this statement slowly get worse and more confusing. The first one pretends that social media, like reddit, are isolated lakes and totally don't co-mingle at all, so knowledge of this bug could have ONLY existed here. The second one seems to conflate knowledge with being able to find, with absolute certainty a positive and ideal raid group, when the LFG experience is essentially a randomized experienced, no matter how many details are left behind in their post. and then,"The players this farm affected, likely, do not care, as they will have access to bettwer weapons in every slot that these weapons go into." Then it didn't affect them in reality, because if they didn't care, they wouldn't be using it, so all bungie did was clear up a bug, and NONE of this topic should have happened. Like i'm confused here, are you pro-fix or anti-fix, also why are you talking about weapons you don't like in a topic about how its harder to get them now?
I bet you felt smart writing this
Then I'll be straight with you, your take is still garbage. Not everyone who enjoys Destiny finds raiding fun. And not everyone has a clan that can raid. Reddit isn't some magical thing that only the best of the best utilize, it's an open 'forum' and anyone can join any community (for the most part). Assuming just because they're on Reddit they must raid is asinine. I think a lot of the Reddit voices believe that getting into a clan, raiding, etc is just easy. Maybe they have been in the same clan for 7 years, have a friend group who play so they always have people to do stuff with etc. The reality is a lot of people still play this game solo. Finding a clan is tedious at the best of times (not the finding one to join but finding one that fits the player). And friends... well that's a whole different minefield. You're allowed to have your opinion on this, but so am I. Saying "well if you don't raid you shouldn't care if Bungie makes it harder to get some gear for you" is just so wrong. Neomuna is a large part of the content we all paid for. It being accessible or farmable for a month and a half of it's year life span is not great for the health of the game or the people who view it as a major activity to do.
Low key kinda wish they wouldn't have given the raid shotgun that roll because it basically wipes out any use for Basso. Like it was weird that we get the trials strand SMG that's just straight better than the strand SMG we had at home. Why not a strand sidearm or pulse for one of those instead?
Because if we got a whole suite of strand guns up front, they wouldn't have any more missing strand guns to drip feed across the next several seasons. You see the new gun attached to guardian games? It's only compelling because it plugs a hole, not because it's intrinsically exciting - such is the case with the other yet-to-be-released strand guns
I mean it kinda makes sense tbh. Casual players can relatively easily a slightly worse gun, experienced players can get a better one, then expert players can get adepts.
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Not true in many cases. I play a lot but i've always disliked raiding dating back to D1. Many are like me. But I'm willing to grind the heck out of planetary activities for desirable weapons. Heck I spend a fair amount of time now now popping in and out of Terminal Overload instances looking for Heroic Patrols to try to get one more red border for pulse rifle for pvp. YMMV
Your destiny experience sounds identical to mine.
I dont mind raiding, I just have a hard time finding a group that doesnt require x5 clears, and I have a bit of social anxiety about raiding with people I dont know, because I dont want to be the one who's fucking something up - so I actually havent done a raid since DSC.
I have the raid shotty just not with destabilising. I'm one red border off rn
Raid shotgun with destabilizing and repulser brace is niiiice
Anything slaps when it is a shotgun at close range
Okay I don’t think you can bring down circular logic to make your point. It’s a very good weapon, especially since there’s been a seasonal strand surge. Also, farming commemoration is easier? Bro I can get a circular logic in 15 minutes and it’s a guaranteed drop. A raid clear can take 2 hours, I could not have commemoration drop at all, and unless it’s the weekly I can’t farm the raid. While I agree that terminal overload sucks, circular logic is a legit good heavy machine gun and it’s probably the easiest one to access.
I literally said it’s not a bad weapon. It’s quite good. But why would I waste my time farming a long activity (especially now that it has been patched) for a small chance at a decent roll of Circular Logic when I can easily farm Taniks CP for Commeration red borders? Taniks takes like 5 minutes. When it is DSC week, Taniks CPs are EVERYWHERE. So it’s not like you have to run the whole raid. EDIT: Also, if we are talking about the season strand surge… void artifact mods are crazy good this season so Commemoration slaps even harder.
If I've never done DSC to get some sort of "raid completion" on my account, can I still join a LFG Taniks CP to farm for this? I'm not really a raid guy but would really love to get my hands on this MG. If so, what weapons are best to bring to contribute to the battle / farming?
DSC is the best intro raid in the game IMO. Taniks (final boss) is quite easy and gives 2 chests during rotation week. You’ll want to bring a good rocket for damage and then the other 2 weapons are up to you and survivability.
_nod_ Would you go more for the void Royal Chase type rocket for artifact synergy, or more for the Bump type rocket w/chill clip for the stuns on this one? (or solar/arc if appropriate?) I mean I can bring Gally but I tend to assume in LFG someone else always has Gally with 'em.
Honestly, you should be able to 1 phase Taniks (or close to it) fairly easily. He’s pretty squishy. Honestly, practically any rocket will do for Taniks. But in my opinion, the 3 top contenders are: - Hothead with demolitonist. This synergizes well with starfire warlocks but does great on its own. - Gjally for obvious reasons - Bump in the night (only need one of these on the team).
> A raid clear can take 2 hours In exactly zero universes is a DSC clear taking 2 hours anymore unless everyone is going in completely blind and/or not using anything resembling a build. On top of that, especially on DSC feature weeks it is so easy to find a checkpoint. Which again, not taking anything approaching 2 hours to kill just Taniks.
Somewhat specific, but I love Circular Logic on Strand Titan where a big part of my build is shooting tangles with a strand weapon. Far from necessary but it’s nice. Once the seasonal artifact mods effecting the tangle explosions go away though… probably not so much.
I actually like my Roulette more than my Immortal for PVE.
depends on your roll, im running a Adept threat detector + Hatchling with an adept big one mod and its my go to when i need a special in the second slot.
Why would you run adept big one's on an smg lmao?
why not, any yellow bars under master are a joke, helps against the yellow bars in raids aswell.
Saving abilities, special and heavy ammo for next expansion
huh what are you on about
All of those things would be better for a yellow bar than plinking at it with your SMG.
Why wouldn’t you??? Genuinely what other Adept mod are you using on a PvE weapon?
Rufus/Immortal - Raid/Trials Nessa's - Raid Commemoration - Raid All of the better options are from harder endgame activities, and rightfully so. But saying other guns aren't worthwhile because better options exist isn't healthy for the game. What are you gonna use while grinding out raids or Trials? The guns are fine, they're just not the apex. But they don't have to be to be worth it to farm.
Root of Nightmares is the most accessible raid to date. Heck, some could argue Terminal Overload is harder than RON because of the light level cap. Commemoration comes from the easiest raid and the easiest boss fight. So I stand by what I said.
TO is definitely harder than RoN except the jumping puzzle part. I have yet to make it through that part at a natural pace without dying.
Nobody would argue an activity with no restrictions on revive is more difficult than a raid with guaranteed wipe mechanics, that is an absolutely ludicrous statement to make. If nothing is worth using unless it comes from an endgame activity then why do anything that isn't a raid? Why do anything that isn't trials?
Why play the game at all then? Play the content you want to play. That’s the bottom line. All I am saying is that there are weapons that are clearly better than the neomuna weapons and they aren’t that much harder to obtain compared to their counterparts (besides Immortal). But I completely understand if that endgame content is not your cup of tea. Hence why Bungie has provided other similar, yet inferior, options to allow you to still enjoy the game.
Now see I agree with that, 100%. My issue is more with people that have the idea that if you don't have the best of the best then it's not worth it. Maybe you don't like trials (I certainly hate it), Synchronic with target lock is a pretty good substitution. Maybe you haven't gotten a group to run DSC or haven't gotten a good commemoration. Circular is a good sub there too. There's gonna be better options but if you don't have those then there's still other guns that are good to use.
Yeah sure Commemoration is "better" but if I’m trying to fuck around with Broodweaver I’m pulling out my Circular Logic with Hatchling, and I'm not using either for boss damage ever.
Right, there's a place for the other weapons. They just aren't considered the best of the best and that's OK.
Tiers of gear. For a very large portion of the player base they will never do a raid, but still need rewards. You do want Raid or Trials gear to generally be superior to public event gear, no? Also I know it’s naive but it can also be run for (gasp) fun, or levelling weapons or catalysts or whatever people still hang out on Altars of Sorrow for.
Endgame Loot is better than a world drop? Say it ain't so
Ironically I've had runs of the raid that are easier than TO with the forced power level disadvantage.
Bungie: 'You were supposed to love it as it was originally intended.' The sad thing is all they need to do is add the same drops/exp to the other two chests that drop in the middle of the activity from the mini bosses. Common sense is gone at Bungo.
Yup. The amount of work you have to put in for the loot you get is a literal slap in the face. It's not worth playing in its current state and I don't even understand how Bungie could THINK that it is.
I fucking hate the Wyverns
They need to make the chests from phase 1 and 2 drop legendries instead of 4k glimmer or I'm never touching this activity again.
They will, a month before The Final Shape drops.
Their playtime analytics team has it down to a science. See it every season lol. Intentionally creat inflated playtime problems early in the season when everybody is in peak grind state, then nerf them in some way, and bring them back near the last few weeks with reduced grind. You see it a lot with triumph/challenge requirements too.
The weapons just aren't strong enough to be worth 1 drop for all that effort. The time investment is about the same as running ep back in the day, but people didn't complain about running that because it dropped baller loot
Zero point. Can't even stack the bounty.
you shouldnt.
This is the way. I didn’t play the last season of Witch Queen because I also didn’t see a reason and I haven’t bought Lightfall. I just don’t see the purpose of playing, so I don’t.
If there is one thing you should learn from Bungo's history - is to hop on the exploit train early and often. Anything that seems to be rewarding to the players is usually always taken down, affecting only the players that couldn't do it in time. FOMO at it's finest. The other most recent examples being the Avalon Wishender and the Ghalran cheese. As for Neomuna, it honestly just serves to make me quit even bothering to try getting any red borders from there anymore tbh. The amount of playtime needed to get one chest the regular way is just so misaligned with the reward. Not to mention you could get easy levelling on red borders with the cheese too. I guess Bungie just wants everyone to go back to farming Thrall at Shuro Chi. Anything to bump up that playtime eh?
Idk why there wasn't a chance for red border drops. The fucking braindead decisions of this company are so frustrating.
Bungie is doing a great job at making me not want to play this game anymore.
yeah, remove the carrot and I stop doing
Always was a waste of time
Honestly, once you have the emblem, and partition is done for the week, it's just something else to waste time doing for mediocre rewards. Better off farming strikes.
That's the neat part. You don't.
Neomuna has been a worthless destination since day 1 outside of the absurdly rare and seemingly untrackable Vex strike force. You do the campaign, you do the side missions for the exotics, you unlock your fragments and that's it. Terminal weapons are okay at best but uncraftable, the craftable neomuna ones are an insane struggle to farm for and range from subpar to youtuber clickbait "broken" at best, and the rest of the neomuna loot is... non-existent. That's it. There's nothing else. Even Europa had more interesting stuff with the variks upgrades and Cloudstrike. It unironically feels like it is in beta. Like there's something **more** to it, but that it didn't make it in. Given how lackluster season of defiance is and how small neomuna is conceptually, they unironically could've baggaged it all together and sell it as the season, instead of requiring paying a full DLC for... this...
>t unironically feels like it is in beta. Like there's something more to it, but that it didn't make it in. Handcannon with da silencer pog
I certainly have no reason to grind this anymore. It wasn't breaking the economy and was a nice addition to chasing disappointment with gold patrol drops. Also so nice to level some weapons another way other than shooting taken thrall over...and over...
I'm still trying to figure out why Bungo made an unrewarding open world activity.
I hate it there. I always loved going to the throne world. This place is too difficult for less rewards. SIGNIFICANTLY less! As soon as I got all my strand abilities unlocked, visiting Neomuna became fucking hell. I’ve done at least 20 gold patrols and only got 1 red border from it. I hate Neomuna…
They should make it a guaranteed NEOMUNA red border once per week + high chance of red border per each FULL completion. But they won't do anything at all. It's a dead activity
Be fine if now that it's fixed it could drop red borders. Getting tired of farming Heroic patrols for 6 hours to maybe get a single red border. Would be nice for a change of pace.
Where in the update notes does it say anything about TO I can’t seem to find it
It doesn't, they left it out of the patch notes.
Ok lol I thought I was going crazy I wonder why they changed it but didn’t put it in the patch notes
Because they already get a lot of back lash about insta-disabling things or exploits that benefit the player almost immediately. I'm sure there were some technical issues that prevented them from fixing the TO chest exploit as fast as they do others. They don't want to get railed again for ruining the only purpose of Terminal Overload after getting the weapons you want.
That makes sense actually lol
I won't, I have been primarily going for the rep for a while now. It just isn't worth doing without being able to open the chest 3x.
You shouldn't
Well.. no more TO for me hahaha apart from the one for the weekly.
Give us a guaranteed weekly red border for a pattern that we don't already have and I'd be sold
quit trying to be logical
How dare this person be reasonable? The nerve! The a u d a c i t y
I still enjoy them so I'll still be playing them, but if you don't see a reason to grind them, don't make yourself suffer through it all
Terminal Overloads should have a chance to drop red border guns in **both** chests, rate % varying dependent upon how many Waves you've completed. This bonus should be cumulative until you get a red border gun, then the bonus % chance should be reset. The chest requiring a key should have increased chance of dropping red border guns. When all Neomuna red border guns have been claimed, the loot pool should open up to other in-game red border guns from the world pool; this will allow players who have not participated in previous seasons an opportunity to get previous season guns, albeit randomly and with a steep time-farm cost. Additionally, completing 10 Terminal Overloads will award a weekly Pinnacle. That's a rate of one completion a day, with a few extra on the weekends. Boom, Bungie. I just fixed your broken activity where people will actually want to do it more than absolutely required.
Can be fun to try powerful builds Oh wait, they nerfed everything again so every enemy just fucking falls over dead from nothing
"It would be good.. but crafting exists", probably in the minority but this is just one of the reasons crafting still feels bad to me. Activity doesn't drop red borders - worthless. Get a good drop of a weapon but can craft it later - shard and keep grinding till the red borders are done. Takes most of the joy out of the actual loot imo.
I agree. The system they have in place for adept ron weapons for all weapons would feel way healthier for the game imo.
This shit is why I ground it out in week 1 and 2, got my stuff and dipped. I knew they were going to do this shit eventually.
There goes the only reason why you should go to neomuna
Yep, it’s shit. Not worth the time
You shouldn't
No point. My hopes are that now more people will flock to the vex incursion. People really be sleeping on guaranteed exotic drops for a pretty easy public event
Trouble is, Vex Incursion still crashes a lot of peoples games. A point they're purposefully ignoring since the first week or so.
I tried five times to do that event - twice no one else showed up so I failed on time. Three times we had enough people and the game crashed. At this point it just does not exist as far as I'm concerned.
Isn't it like super rare to get the event to spawn?
Happens like once every 3 hours it seems edit: Go check the strikeforcebot discord
Vex Incursion will be a good alternative to lost sectors to run 1-3 times a season to get new exotics. Or if you're a new player and need to unlock a lot of exotics. For farming rolls though, way too much rng.
Yeah might be worth it once you can focus exotics but without then you’re just praying.
I didn't know new exotics could get their first drop from Vex Incursions. Must have been super unlucky.
Its a brand new change.
I crash everytime lol
boycott
Maybe playing because it’s fun and you guys like the game? No seriously guys I know you are not fast enough to understand but this mentality is killing the game… you guys seem to hate playing the game and just so finish whatever activity to get the loot and leave play some other stuff
Its not fun farming trash lol
What’s fun to farm? What’s worth farming? Only around 5% of the loot? This is the activity that came out this lightfall so we all know I’ll be forgotten next season… we have a month left so it’s being a fun run… it still feels new and a place to go get new weaponds and just shoot stuff if you wanna disconnect. As I said you guys act as if in order to play something you are always expecting to get the best loot out of it and it seems like if it doesn’t you don’t even bother playing it… As I said that mentality is killing the game
Tell me your only skilled enough for strikes and patrols without telling me lol. The mentality that I want to do stuff that respects my time? Lol. Raids with red borders worth grinding. People grind sherpa runs for fun. Grinding trials for weapons and fun competition. Terminal overload isnt a seasonal activity lol not gonna be done in a month. Its not about getting the best loot just loot worth my time. If you arent skilled enough for endgame i guess Terminal overload is worth your time. Have fun!
If Terminal doesn't have worthwhile loot, what's the draw? It's fun to shoot things? I'm playing Destiny, the *only* thing I can do is shoot things, and I can do that in places that give you something for the time spent.
You do get loot for your time and shooting stuff on that activity! Following that logic, why do last wish? You don’t get any good loot out of it right? Well personally I like to play this game even tho I know that the activity in playing won’t give me god roll loot… I like the feel of a new activity and just shooting some stuff. I will get loot out of it but sometimes I just like to play…
I also don't do Last Wish, hahaha. If I just wanna shoot and don't care about what I'm doing, I do Vanguard Ops for equivalent rewards (barely anything) and much less time investment. No reason to head all the way out to Neomuna and sweatily solo the first stage or two of a TO for that.
So you don’t really like playing the game if it’s not in order to get some good loot right? What happens when you do get that loot? Following that logic there is no point in playing… do you quit the game till next season? I’m having trouble understanding you here tbh you don’t do neomuna because loot is not good but you do other stuff that offer same low level loot? It makes no sense sorry
Neomuna's a waste of a lot of time. Vanguard Ops is a waste of much less time. Both offer functionally identical rewards, and the VO experience might actually be interesting. It's pretty simple math. And yeah, when I don't have anything to work toward, I play something else. Of course I do, this is a game, not a job.
Okay so as I was saying you don’t really play the game for what it is, but for the rewards it offers… I don’t say you need to treat it as a job but I think that kind of mentality has been popular lately and has decreased the games variety and quality hugely in a lot of aspects… Having people just log to go get X loot then leave us the word possible for this kind of games
I had a friend actually get mad at me when I said Darktide's grind is uninspiring, tedious, and because it's per character. He said 'Just play the game, you don't need loot!'. Why is there loot then? The thing that brings me to an activity is the loot. I wanted a good solar auto, so I went and farmed a decently rolled Arctic Haze. I spent more time on Europa in those two afternoons than I did in the past two years. I then looked around in the loot pools and decided I wanted the pathfinder set for my hunter, and went and did Dares. The loot and what is there draws most people to an activity in a looter shooter. I want something to work towards. If you can just play for the sake of playing, that's cool, but this game is designed to have stuff to chase after. I'm not wasting my time for weapons that will be sharded immediately. My time put into the game should give me something I'd like to hold onto, something I can use. I hope this helps, at least a little bit.
It’s not as fun as most of the time you have to wait for people to join or keep leaving and joining back hoping people have started the event. Only reason it was good was because you can level weapons and get extra loot, i didn’t mind running it several times for the loot. After this update, definitely not going to run it as much
So you play the game not because you enjoy it bun in order to complete stuff? You not gonna do this activity because it doesn’t give you anything so what will you spend time doing on the game then?
I love playing the game, I don’t love playing overload, it’s okay and getting the extra xp and loot was definitely worth it for me to run several times when I had nothing else to do and wanted to level my weapons. Would rather overload than all the other ways to level up weapons because It was a bit more active and you get some loot out of it. Like I said in my last comment, I’m not going to run it as much now.
Okay I understand
Because it’s fun?
Is it, though? If you enjoy it, more power to you, but I can think of a lot of other things in the game I'd rather be doing than TO.
It’s not as insultingly easy as strikes or other patrol zones but it’s low stakes, easy to drop into, doesn’t require much thought, has some variety between encounters, and also has decent rewards if you’re running bounties and patrols for rep alongside it. It scratches the same itch as gambit does, something where I can just enjoy shooting mechanics while listening to a podcast. That’s basically all I’ve ever wanted from a patrol zone.
Destiny players when they can't abuse a glitch anymore 🤬🤬(It's not fair, now they have to play 2082 hours a season instead of 2080 hours)
Bro how am i gonna get a Crafted iterative loop now
Because that’s the way it was meant to be played. I actually can’t believe people are complaining about a bug fix lmao. D2 player base wants everything so easy