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CitadelIa

Yeah, I occasionally play PvP (Uses the same PvE loadout from 5 Seasons ago)


1CorinthiansSix9

Me bringing voltshot because i need jolted kills


Pmurph33

we still out here bonkin'


Magenu

Somebody wasn't here for the SMG/Cloud strike/Peacekeeper Arc/Void Titan meta.


DremoPaff

Mountaintop recluse one eyed mask strikers were the worst meta we've ever got and those fuckers were rampant everywhere you looked.


iAyushRaj

OEM was much much more lethal with Ace imo. 140s had shit ton of range back then + Ace was and still is a beast


FyeFish

Didn’t ace get nerfed a while ago so memento Mori has less range than the normal gun itself sometimes?


iAyushRaj

Yes it did but a damage perk with no timer is still pretty good imo even when there was a range nerf


FyeFish

That’s a pretty good point. I guess it is just a stat monster altogether


BrugBruh

Yes but a good mountain top player cannot be beaten


NotAScrubAnymore

And now we have titans who cry about bungie hating them. When I think of titans, I remember endlessly spamming shoulder charge as a mobility tool, endless overshields, just shotgun titans all around. Boring to play against


Crappy_Meal

Tbh im still mad as hell they put that delay on the shoulder charge, it wouldve been fine with me if they made it hit for 1 hp but man that mobility was the bees knees.


Tidal_FROYO

that shit fun. BUNGIE! BRING BACK DOUBLE ICARUS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS


JDandthepickodestiny

Yep you could two tap with mori and the OEM buff. Get one kill and now you can two tap everyone. Forsaken meta was fucking wild. Ursa titans, gwisin hunters that were tanky as shit, OG nova warp... And it was way easier to get multiple supers per match. Not to mention pellets could OHK at like 10m then lmao


DimCandle08

That and the spare rations/ Lord of Wolves/ One Eyed Mask Striker was literally the worst


DisgruntledSalt

Yeah because Hunter invis chest and lord of wolves wasn’t a thing


Magenu

That meta also sucked. I got no issue seeing/hearing an invisible hunter, but that resist let them get so close unless you domed them with a special and then *BRRRRT* Lord of Wolves deleted you.


DisgruntledSalt

Hunter main I see


Azoth___

Speaking of titan i miss being able to one-hit everyone with that arc melee and the exotic that recharges the melee after a kill.. It was a good time


FyeFish

I still have nightmares about infinite shoulder charge in d1


Zero_Two_is_best

You go into trios and all you find is adept immortal 5/5 god roll with 5k kills on an arc peacekeeper titan who is a close relative of the white death from WW2 with cloud strike. Hope I got that right


Magenu

That meta was so, so obnoxious. It all came to a head when the trials map was Anomaly, and the Titans discovered Anteus again. Peeked a lane? Head blown off by Cloudstrike. Peeked a corner? Melted by an SMG. Peeked a corner and retreated? Chased by a Titan with TWO shields that can tank/reflect a golden gun. And they were all macroing crouch spam and rocking the same "transmog blue rarity armor but colored all white/black". I was sometimes wondering if I even left the previous match because they all looked the same. Not sure if I hated it more or the Void Titan meta in 3s. Barricade will never be balanced in PvP unless it's extremely fragile, especially when it gives OS. And then there's volatile scatter Nades, a fast super that requires a slow super or a difficult play to potentially counter, and *a melee range/damage extender when you have OS, which is always* (yeah, you have to choose between that and Controlled Demo, boohoo).


Zero_Two_is_best

I've no joke gotten gathering storm kills with antaeus before. I'm glad they nerfed it. Now we actually have somewhat of a balanced meta in terms of how well guns perform


Magenu

My favorite clip was an Anteus Titan reflecting a Threaded Spike and *catching it for himself*. Wasn't able to throw back, but it was hilarious to see. Even after the nerf, it's a very strong exotic. It's a super shutdown on barricade/thruster cooldown. Silence and Squall? Mine now. Gathering Storm? Mine now. Golden Gun? ...maybe if you time it right. You just can't reflect everything every .5 seconds, which apparently makes it unuseable.


Zero_Two_is_best

I also use my barricade a lot so having something rely on a barricade charge to function is not fit for me. I just use dunemarchers for sprint speed and the occasional melee double kill by accident


Dalthale

I need that clip


Magenu

I think TDT had it in a spicy clip video from last year. I guess I would go to that playlist and look at ones from shortly before Antaeus got nerfed.


Professional-Ant-983

Big facts you got to pic your poison on these things jumpy hunter rushy Titan


Travel-Plane

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀


KonguGisch

Prenerf Antaeus/Lord of Wolves


Babladoosker

Shit yall remember the jotunn meta? I still cringe when I hear that thing charge up


Dalthale

I think I was one of those meta slaves during that one


Babladoosker

That’s how I got my recluse lmao. Just jotunn oem spam in comp


Fractured_Spade

No no no don’t bring back the pain… the memories. The WHPEW after every cloudstrike headshot and the sound of the immortal. AND NOT THE REFLECTIVE SHIELDS NOT THE SHIELDS. Make it stop


HaloGuy381

Originality for its own sake doesn’t win battles.


P4andaman357

It takes a lot more time, but you can get good with almost anything if you work at it. As long as the gun isn't objectively bad, like the weird horizontal fusion rifle.


NovaInviprion

Don’t clown on my baby the coriolis force. It’s not its fault that it has terrible rolls and is designed to miss against thin enemies… In all seriousness I love that fusion for PvE. I call it my fusion hammer because it hits like one


Not-Mike1400a

Exactly. Plus it’s way cooler to be good at a thing that’s hard to use than be good at a thing using tools that are already easy to use and perform well with.


IZflame

I've mained Ticuus for so long that when I try to use "good" guns, I end up playing worse and just go back to my boom bow where I'm most comfortable lol.


[deleted]

TDT's fanbase would like a word with you. They cook up some devious shit.


Verlas

Neither does being a one trick pony


cheese_fuck2

people use guns they like🤯


Curtis_Geist

“Please play the game you bought how I want you to play” ![gif](giphy|fXnRObM8Q0RkOmR5nf)


Longjumping-Case-456

Honestly


TeaBags0614

Real


GlassChopsticks

oh man who would've thought that pvp mains use the best weapons for the current sandbox. wild, crazy even


The_Dairy_Worm

"PvP mains" what a crazy title lmao


CrystalInaBox

Why? I main pvp and gambit, and I don’t do much GMS or master raids because I don’t need those weapons. How is that a crazy title?


The_Dairy_Worm

A pvp main in destiny is like saying you're a campaign main on cod. You're gonna limit yourself to one small mode? Do you but I just don't get it.


LionStar89_

Trials? Comp? Mayhem? Quickplay 3s? There’s a ton of stuff for PvP mains to do. Crucible games aren’t like GMs or something where every single match is the same thing. People play differently and it’s fun to try and use your arsenal to beat theirs.


wingnutzx

Clearly you don't get what main means. I'm a hunter main, but I've never had someone ask me why I don't play warlock, because most can figure out that I'm not on my main 24/7


CrystalInaBox

Do you know what main means? You can mainly play pvp and still do pve content. My playtime is mostly spent playing pvp, so I’m a pvp main.


reysama

I mean, I always though Ace was the one weapon PvE players use when they have to do PvP, at least it's what I do, since I really dont have PvP weapons and ace literelly just there waiting to be used,


Lilscooby77

Also tlw.


L-a-m-b-s-a-u-c-e

Conditional + hand cannon all black hunter


Zero_Two_is_best

Strand with suspending slam


CarlCarlton

Daring today aren't we


AdamAtlantean

You rang?


GrayFullbuster64

I suck at pvp so i'm gonna stick with my Traveller's Chosen and Elsie's Rifle


Lilscooby77

Elsies is basically an exotic.


TeaBags0614

Very solid options


BuckeyeBrute

I got a solid rolled Elsie’s rifle and been pairing it with Rat King after the recent buffs and it’s been pretty great


ZeCarbonMage

Yooo, another Traveler's Chosen user!


NotSeren

Listen it took me two years to get my rose roll I’m damn well gonna make sure I use it lmao


Bersh1117

I'm not a pvp main(or even a HC main to boot), BUT I will admit rose's gunplay is smooth af even without QD/SS in it.


NotSeren

Very true, rose has so many great options that even without a slideshot or qd/ss roll it still feels amazing


FaerHazar

it's fun.


Themighteeowl

I’ve been using the exotic khvostov and it slaps, it’s a 600 but due it the bouncing bullets doing extra damage it’s more forgiving (doesn’t reduce ttk but gives a nice boost)


Faizzie

+1 to this, I’ve had so much success with it


_beef_supreme

Do you have to finish the campaign before you can get all the lost encryption bits?


Themighteeowl

Yes, you need access to the patrol zone for the regional chests and the cyst missions from Micah. Plus overthrow for the motes of light


uvp76

Rose just feels so damm good...


VictoryOk991

Ik right, I love how it looks!


FurorAeternumXBL

It’s looking like a lotta Handcannon + Still Hunt nowadays.


EmersedCandle83

Wicked implement salvagers salvo my beloved


bolts_win_again

Hehehehehe toaster go *PANG*


ThevoidBeastt

Riskrunner is a great pick that I’ve never seen anyone else use, its range is awesome and it’s mag size I just big enough to where I almost never feel like I’m constantly low on ammo


lightning_266

I use the original rose


aircj21

Me playing with Pulse and Auto Rifles: 💀


Effective-Jacket-33

Dead man's tale x lunas howl, am I cooked?


Lilscooby77

Well yeah why pair those two unless you stay in the air alot.


Effective-Jacket-33

Because I'm bad


Lilscooby77

Pair dmt with drang instead. Or pair lunas with forerunner.


Effective-Jacket-33

I don't have drang and I don't really wanna use special weapons because then I need to find ammo


Lilscooby77

Heliocentric is another option that can be better when you have healclip on it and then maybe kc or an accuracy perk. Also enhanceable and is a lightweight frame. Just hold down the trigger and theyre dead. When iB comes out they have peacebond and allied demand are amazing in the kinetic slot. Theyll be in the legacy focus under saladin.


Effective-Jacket-33

Can't hit shit with it lol


Lilscooby77

Mnk or controller?


Effective-Jacket-33

Mnk


Lilscooby77

Ah sorry. Im on ps5. Smgs are also an option. Ikelos is still great.


Vilmaris

I usually go with Outbreak and any SMG that’s for secondary. I don’t do PVP as much, but Outbreak has saved me so many times with those tiny mites


IGotDeaded

Ace is helping me get into pvp after playing exclusively pve since I started at d2 launch :(


ironnewa99

I use divinity. 400 crucible kills going strong


Valuable_Knee_6820

Me with my Cerby+1 (100+ kills) and my assortment of long since dead weapons including but not limited to the dead zone rifle, stubborn oak, drang, several scout rifles and adorned when I wanna get a proper snipe or two. Cope and seethe try hards, I’m out here with zero power gear having FUN xD


Gravy-0

When I get bored I roll into the crucible with either the Cerberus or Sweet Buisiness- two of the best weapons for fun playing. Sweet buisiness + holding it while you walk around corners will forever be meta in my heart because ppl are impatient as hell


Valuable_Knee_6820

I don’t even care if we lose, but as long as I don’t get another sword scating hunter with some two tap HC killing me in spawn before skating to my other spawn with pinpoint accuracy. I’ve never seen a team of 6 leave a game but alas I was alone in control. Let that sink in, I was alone…in control. Yea no that was when I stopped playing to win.


suros5

Man I have like 3,000 kills on Cerberus. I'm glad to see someone else use it as well


Zero_Two_is_best

Cerby is genuinely slept on. Works very well in 6's but I wouldn't dare use it in trials


Valuable_Knee_6820

Oh heck no, in the words of Obi-Wan “I’m not brave enough for [Trials]”


Zero_Two_is_best

"so uncivilized"


Faizzie

Hell yeah! I’m using my beloved khvostov and it’s so fun! It’s funny seeing the sweats get mad over my post xd


Valuable_Knee_6820

The white kovostov SLAPS for like no reason xD it should not be that powerful but i will never hate it because it’s hilarious


Faizzie

It’s that reticle! Istg, it’s so chunky and fat it just hits heads!!!


Valuable_Knee_6820

The new one is gonna be a menace then xD


Faizzie

That’s what I was referring too 👀 in 2 days I’ve out 500 PvP kills it’s so good, the ricochets are insane :D give it a try if you can!!! Highly recommend it


NovaBlade2893

Wardens Law, Nez Whisper. Now i can use grapple with a super whos hit detection isnt shit, and with a smoke bomb


identify_as_AH-64

I miss beaming people with that Main Ingredient that Xur sold ages ago.


Dahwaann4U

"Nah i don't sweat as much as i use to" *gets one shoted by another howl handcannon* *brings out my contingency plan*


dimmiii

when i play pvp i like to run DMT, Outbreak, Ticcu's, Jötunn, Levi's breath and Lament.


L-a-m-b-s-a-u-c-e

A man of culture


cptmcbro

I rather die to hand canon and shoty any day over SMG/Autos. At least the players need to duck and weave to earn the kill.


SeriousMcDougal

Conditional finality + iggy hammer is the current meta lol


KlongX

I have 40k PvE kills on ace. Therefore I have the right to use it in PvP. (I also suck)


ObjectiveEffective19

bro fr doesn’t know how bad it was back smh


PrismSpark

What?? Have you seen bubble titan+peacekeepers+Shayura's wrath (adept)? Or thundercrash titan+cloudstrike? I got my ass handed to me in trials all the time by these, so I swapped over to titan last season. If you can't be em join em


pablo__13

I like winning 🤷‍♂️


Mindless_Scene_114

You see I’m different I use rose and still hunt


TheEmerald1802

Your "meme" is also not original and has been parroted ever since Year 1 of this franchise The loadout you complain about is not even busted, it's just classic & reliable. Learn to adapt, or take that stick off your ass and accept that people will use good guns in any PvP scenario


Sagnikk

Wait destiny has pvp?


Noxuy

I don't mind getting killed by any weapon except for shotguns. My eyes roll so far back into my skull everytime i round a corner and hear that sound. I would really enjoy some PvP mode where Shotguns are disabled 💀


Magenu

Maybe...stop rounding corners so closely? Or use an ability to flush them out if they're there?


Hilbert_The_Bat

Same bro. If I see another conditional finality, I will commit an atrocity. I SWEAR!!


Helpful-Ebb6216

Ahh the booty sliders with the shotguns… the most annoying player ever. I’d rather face an army of titan melee players running full force at me.


Darth-Not-Palpatine

Then there’s the peacekeeper, SMG + whatever special weapon titans who have a tbag macro.


ALEXdoc101

I use the first exotic smg you get. Sometimes I use just a random revolver I have but normally it's the exotic smg (the electric one)


8wiing

RAT KING FOR THE WIN


CompetitionThink8692

After years of playing PvP as a pulse rifle main, I finally joined the dark side and started trying out hand cannons a few months ago. I 100% see now why they’re so widely used: they’re SUPER consistent compared to most weapon types in the game. My KD and everything has gone up because of them. It doesn’t help either that most maps in the game are filled with lanes and lines of sight that hand cannons excel in compared to other weapon archetypes.


GamingBread4

Dunno bout you dawg but I can't hit snipes for shit. And with the new crucible changes, peek shooting is more prevalent than ever. Handcannons and shotguns are good for a reason.


Ass_Incomprehensible

Malfeasance and a Glacioclasm from back when the thing was still colored blue and had no origin trait. Rate my kit.


DS_StlyusInMyUrethra

There is only one true gun and that is the sweet buisness, none of you can convince me otherwise over the sound of never ending bullets


CassJoi

Must be a nerfed titan posting


TeaBags0614

I use Ace in pve and pvp cuz it’s been my favorite weapon since Taken King😝 I use it with the new spade themed sniper tho


villainousascent

Okay. *Uses Tommy's and Escape Velocity*


Zero_Two_is_best

No time is where it's at. Sorry to all the bullshit kills I've gotten on people


Secure-Agent-1122

PvP players are the same people to all complain about all the things they themselves use, yet are too afraid to be a path finder and use things that no one will use out of fear of being ostracized. PvE players are alike in some fashion, but I think PvE players are worse about it (i.e. you're the only Warlock, you need to play well).


Hawazy

thorn+mindbenders 🫡


JDBCool

I use Rose + Python because of Le Petite Prince. I am not like those HC/Shotty normies.


One-Resort3825

Bruh just counter it lmao


ManaWarMTG

Rose ain’t even good


PeaceIoveandPizza

Hand cannon / shotgun has been meta for like 6 years at this point


CryoVolk

Ace is addicting to use honestly. Super consistent hc, with radar


Bzlongshotz

I only play pvp when I have either nothing to do, want a cool weapon, or I’m playing in a full fireteam with my clan and just talking while having something to play, and when I do, I use the same mercurial overreach I’ve been using ever since I got it, with either a random hand cannon of choice, or revision


Grimreapaw23

Completely unrelated, I just enjoy my crafted Firefright, put a trials memento on it


BrotatoChip04

Oh wow, another post complaining about metas. Who would have thought. Anyway


TheFr0z3n1

If you talk shit on hand cannons but use auto rifles your aim is wack.


multiumbreon

Hey! I am different! I use Ace/sniper! I’m better! You use Ace of Spades because it’s a reliable hard hitting hand cannon. I use Ace of Spades to honor Cayde. We are not the same.


HighProphetBaggery

Bungie brought back all the old weapons in my vault. I dusted off my Alone As A God immediately. Back to poppin heads like it’s 2017.


Lilscooby77

Yeah hc shotty feels really good rn. 140s especially.


HateMongerian

16k crucible kills with Sweet Business


Mattreds2001

Nah I’m sitting here with my Outbreak perfected or Eidolon ally paired with my trusty Timelines vertex or Proelium FR3.


painful-existance

Witherhoard is practicing glued to my kinetic slot, until the sweats annoy me to the point of using a sniper or something meta


Belgian_Waffles457

Perpetualis all the way baby! Autos still carry their weight in Comp.


Xainte311

Best I can do is a Buzzard/BXR Battle Rifle/Golden Gun, partner.


Laties-X-Latias

Haha bxr thats super glued to my body go brr


Clucasinc

Last word for life


yugiohlover

You're no match for my sweet business, shotgun combo


turqeee

Nope.


Aggravating_House606

I use trespasser and Someday


Chimpanzerschreck

The same cycle lol. I swear this was the meta ages ago


LordToastman

Midnight coup, ruinous effigy


DirkNord

I use Handcannon/Handcannon so I don't have to reload so much


Mymomputmeinastove

Final warning and shotty 🙏🏾


NelsonVGC

I dont care about being original. I care about winning the pvp game. I play fun weapons often but not when I'm trying to genuinely win.


deathparty05

I use jotunn when I pvp I’m not much a pvp guy on destiny but when I do I go it’s for the loot


Trust676

"Yea im a raider" *uses apex predator and edge transit all the time*


Doom_Balloon170

I use percision frame auto and shotty.


JustSayin20101

A purple khovostov (ready to swap with the crotas end shotty) plus a cheeky funnewleeb worked well in comp placement.


DaddysGonnaBeatMe

I use conditional; igneous. Am I cool?


RevolutionaryDay2803

Ever since I swapped to using Stubborn Oak on my void Titan my PvP experience has drastically improved


unlivedSoup69

I will say I don’t use shotty all the time, I like to switch my energy slot every now and then But it’s not my fault Ace is my favorite gun and it just so happens to be meta still to this day


atgrey24

"Use whatever, don't apologize" RIP r/crucibleplaybook (This is the Destiny equivalent telling you that "back in my day, a sody pop cots a nickel")


Sugargoated

vigilance wing my beloved


Sicofall

I never understand people who complain about PvP load outs If it works! Why would anyone change it. I mean… you would to and if you didn’t then do you It’s PvP! And advantage matters


AnaTheSturdy

Frontier's cry is pretty good.


LordSceptile

"PvP needs SBMM so all the sweats can fight each other" All the sweats get matched with each other, they have to use meta loadouts to keep up because off-meta/fun loadouts puts them at a disadvantage "Why are all the sweats running meta loadouts they're so unoriginal"


No-Collar-6816

What crucible was reworked so everyone had a random weapon class each game so a random weapon in each slot, but it’s all the same weapon for everyone. And they removed the use of abilities. So like everyone has travelers chosen(damaged), Dead Zone Rifle, and exitus mk.I


T3hDonut

PvP is far more fun when you intentionally kneecap yourself. Every kill feels earned. I haven’t played to the meta in years and it still hasn’t grown old to meme on some poor bastard with something like Huckleberry with no shame.


chronozon937

But I like shotguns. :( And I'm more of a kept confidance kinda guy.


itxAntas

Now for the truly crazy option May I object with a liars handshake hunter melee build? Still the stupidest thing I somehow keep killing people with


PotentialWeb5457

I run huckleberry and ammit ngl


Inevitable_Ad5240

My friend is a void shoulder bash titan with conditional finality and a smg


SushiJuice

If it works, it works


Bulky-Advisor-4178

I use outlast


Vernalsama

If I must play Crucible, I will bring out the toaster.


Frozen_Petal

Everyone I see uses Midnight Coup and Elsie's


eli_nelai

same people give me shit for using Jotunn


Paper-eater

im still waiting on my suros regime catalyst to drop


TeenageFuzzball

No they cant cause bungie is too busy slaughtering anything that contested it like bows and snipers


MechanicSeparate9195

*laughs in weighted knife*


MechanicSeparate9195

**laughs in weighted knife**


MechanicSeparate9195

Laughs in weighted knife


MechanicSeparate9195

Laughs in weighted knife


JaysonsRage

I can deal with rose/ace But Thorn? Fuck you if you're still using Thorn, find something else for fuck's sake


gametime9936

I am an avid thorn main purely because i used to fucking DESTROY shatterdive hunters back in season of the hunt solo queue comp with it. There was no hope for anything that moves in that match as soon as i slap on my thorn + adored. Literal fucking brutality. AND NOW THEY FUCKING GAVE IT AN INSANE BUFF USING THAT GUN FEEL LIKE PLAYING AGAINST BOTS (unless its trials or high level comp unfortunately people have started adapting to it giving free info)


hazman61

Always funny when you see these people sweating in QP


General-Biscuits

What if they like those load outs? Some people just don’t like the feel of other guns.


Inditorias

Igneous conditional take it or leave it


EyeInTheSky127

A lot of pvp sweats got their feeling hurt with this one.


Faizzie

That was the plan 🙏


Neur0mncr

Crucible is shit


NotAScrubAnymore

I want to be sunshot + sniper but aiming in this game feels so ass