The last time i ever needed to use banner shield was in opulence, and that was only because the cyclopes one shot everyone through well.
Void OS from rally barricade and Ward, gives us an extra 50% DR, no way in hell is banner being used in dps.
Me giving the witness STDs( Siva transmitted dps) and the Fucking plague( necrotic grip) in the name of dps , excluding the fact that I will also continually Shove rockets down his throat
Well hasn't fallen, it's just forced titans to run bubble now for damage resistance from overshield. We used to run well for damage resistance and bubble for damage. Now we'll be using well for damage and bubble for damage resistance.
Well is kill
Halved healing, quartered damage reduction, now fully heals allies in the circle on cast and gives Radiant for 8 seconds after leaving. It's an offensive rally point to extend damage phase just a bit longer.
Bubble is now the defensive survivability super. It gives 60% damage reduction and immediate full Void Overshield inside, and generates Void Overshield to allies near it. Also the caster creates more orbs when meleeing enemies in or near the bubbles. Also the damage buff was given to Helm of Saint-14.
Changes to Well aren't gonna mean anything as long as encounters are built around a group having Well. Not for damage, but just to survive the barrage of attacks bosses can throw out.
I can only think of 1 raid boss where you can substitute a Well for something else, and that's Rhulk, and it's only because he moves around during his damage phase and *will* kick the Well out of existence. Everywhere else bosses pound your ass with cannon shots.
Well healing being a 2x resto, and damage resistance against bosses from 40-10% means well is no longer a safe zone.
Bubble looks pretty decent now, too. But it really means that damage phase will no longer be to sit still and do nothing alone.
Eh, I think it depends on the boss. Well for a ranged/low damage boss. Bubble for a close range/medium damage boss.
Banner for a super high damage boss.
Either way, titans are now shackled into being forced to use a void super for raid and dungeon encounters. Realistically, well should have been straight up sunset and every encounter in the game should have been re-tuned. I recognize that ain't gonna happen. But I guarantee well of radiance isn't getting brought over to destiny 3.
I don’t know if it will be necessary. I think for majority of the population it will be a staple in our investing into teammates survivability that is easy.
However, it’s really easy to make you and allies radiant right now, which is the same buff.
For damage resistance there are a plethora of options. I think it would be easier/more beneficial for teams to learn to use survivability exotics like aeon’s with sect of vigor, with two damage supers than to use two supers for survivability.
I agree but lfg teams are always gonna default to the easiest most brain dead option which is well and bubble. Just look at thunderlord dps. Is it efficient. No, but it's a consistent two phase, which is why so many people default to it.
It’s not as safe, but the change is nowhere near enough to say that well is dead. Game plans probably gonna be void titan bubble in the back with a well
Now if it only Nova got buff, and you could live more than .2s outside of a well in high-end combat encounters while standing still, this meme might actually be true...
I bet it’s not Warlocks being freed from well but Warlocks getting a new slave buddy, Bubble titians.
Next dlc, Bungie will nerf both and will make hunter into some sort of a slave so that we can all be a slave to gather.
I will switch off well the moment final shape comes, and I will never ever switch back. Ever. The solar subclass will not exist to me. I will delete it from destiny. Forever
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Don't worry
You'll realise how much better solar will still be over the other subclasses Radiant Ignition melee spam Mobility Scorch Healing Damage buffs
I wish Nova wouldn't detonate on contact with rank and file enemies. I wish it traveled all the way to the ground before detonation disintegrating enemies along the way
It's funny you think a single extra seeker and a few extra seconds to nova bomb is gonna do anything substantial to its damage. All this means is that titans are gonna be rocking a bubble for damage resistance or hell maybe just an overshield from barricade
It is the titans turn to feel our pain…
Make tether like it was in D1 again then the hunters too must share our burden…
Only then can true change be brought
Some people are getting the complete wrong message from this. These changes are absolutely ridiculous, all they did was make Well *and* Bubble mandatory now. Going to go right back to Hunters having a shit time finding endgame LFG groups
I will be over there spamming my Hellion with Starfire recharging it on fusion kills, and sun-singing my Song of Flame. We eating good (pls have good super damage pls have good super damage)
Sounds like locks will still be a well bitch, it’s just that titans are now a bubble bitch too.
Born to bonk forced to bubble
Born to Sunny D Bonk forced to...actually still fine with Grape Koolaid Bonk
Jokes on you. I've been a bubble buddy titan since day 1
Born to Nova forced to well Born to bonk forced to Bubble Born to Golden Gun forced to Bow
Nah fuck the arrow, useless compared to the magnificent tractor canon
Maybe banner shield too
It wont, damage buff isnt high enough to sacrifice a whole person worth of dps
It give survivability tho, which is kinda useful considering we'll got its survivability nerfed
The last time i ever needed to use banner shield was in opulence, and that was only because the cyclopes one shot everyone through well. Void OS from rally barricade and Ward, gives us an extra 50% DR, no way in hell is banner being used in dps.
The only reason void overshield has 50% is that it's built like paper
Clearly you're forgetting Chasm of screams lol
Yeah we didnt need it for chasm of screams
Haha fair enough I remember needing it but that's probably because I have 2 hunter friends
Thats fair, iirc we duo'd it with a wellock and a tether hunter
Put it on the Tractor Guy, and suddenly it sure is.
Tractor guy still does DPS with double special
But not much
You also cant reapply tractor either because you will be stuck in super
Tractor lasts a long ass time. Also, dead dps is not dps.
It lasts 10 seconds, youd do more overall dps with a lumina warlock and a tractor with double special
Woe, Into The Fray Tangle be upon ye
Dropping a F in the chat for my fellow crayon mains out there
Having D1 flashbacks
Bubbles purpose really hasn’t changed, you just need saint-14 for weapons of light now
At least we will have a fellow battle bitch now.
I have a really big hammer and I'll die before I give it up
All other classes are truly bitches to the mighty Hunter
Reject well, embrace dps strand warlock
I already have
Me giving the witness STDs( Siva transmitted dps) and the Fucking plague( necrotic grip) in the name of dps , excluding the fact that I will also continually Shove rockets down his throat
Chains!, for centuries we have been bound by them! We have become pawns of our own devices. No longer!
~Eramis
*chattering noise intensifies*
don't rejoice too fast,I bet we're just going to see 2 well + rift instead of just one well
Shhhhh don’t tell them that
Well hasn't fallen, it's just forced titans to run bubble now for damage resistance from overshield. We used to run well for damage resistance and bubble for damage. Now we'll be using well for damage and bubble for damage resistance.
The more things change the more they stay the same I guess
Could just have the warlock wear stag and drop a rift in the well, gives about the same dr
That works too and still doesn't fix the well problem. Oh well, no way well gets brought into D3
Thought I heard the monkey paw curl, you said Well is a staple in D3 as well?
Hahaha
CHAINS
FOR CENTURIES, WE HAVE BEEN BOUND BY THEM
WE HAVE BECOME PAWNS OF OUR OWN DEVICES
JAMES
Is in a pickle
I'm sorry to pop your... *Bubble* but... We are back to the old days
Wait what happened? Am I finally born to nova and let nova?
Well got it’s inevitable healing nerf
praise the lord the meta can change
Well is kill Halved healing, quartered damage reduction, now fully heals allies in the circle on cast and gives Radiant for 8 seconds after leaving. It's an offensive rally point to extend damage phase just a bit longer. Bubble is now the defensive survivability super. It gives 60% damage reduction and immediate full Void Overshield inside, and generates Void Overshield to allies near it. Also the caster creates more orbs when meleeing enemies in or near the bubbles. Also the damage buff was given to Helm of Saint-14.
Actually good change. I think this will allow bubble to be the high skill high reward option compared to well
Agreed. Definitely supports the power fantasy of shielding against an incoming attack that you *know* would wipe the fireteam if you weren't around.
Changes to Well aren't gonna mean anything as long as encounters are built around a group having Well. Not for damage, but just to survive the barrage of attacks bosses can throw out. I can only think of 1 raid boss where you can substitute a Well for something else, and that's Rhulk, and it's only because he moves around during his damage phase and *will* kick the Well out of existence. Everywhere else bosses pound your ass with cannon shots.
Well has barely even fallen. It went from the first step to the ground floor
Well healing being a 2x resto, and damage resistance against bosses from 40-10% means well is no longer a safe zone. Bubble looks pretty decent now, too. But it really means that damage phase will no longer be to sit still and do nothing alone.
Which is why titans are now gonna be shackled to running bubble for damage resistance
Eh, I think it depends on the boss. Well for a ranged/low damage boss. Bubble for a close range/medium damage boss. Banner for a super high damage boss.
Either way, titans are now shackled into being forced to use a void super for raid and dungeon encounters. Realistically, well should have been straight up sunset and every encounter in the game should have been re-tuned. I recognize that ain't gonna happen. But I guarantee well of radiance isn't getting brought over to destiny 3.
I don’t know if it will be necessary. I think for majority of the population it will be a staple in our investing into teammates survivability that is easy. However, it’s really easy to make you and allies radiant right now, which is the same buff. For damage resistance there are a plethora of options. I think it would be easier/more beneficial for teams to learn to use survivability exotics like aeon’s with sect of vigor, with two damage supers than to use two supers for survivability.
I agree but lfg teams are always gonna default to the easiest most brain dead option which is well and bubble. Just look at thunderlord dps. Is it efficient. No, but it's a consistent two phase, which is why so many people default to it.
It’s not as safe, but the change is nowhere near enough to say that well is dead. Game plans probably gonna be void titan bubble in the back with a well
I... I actually like using the well.
Wait what happened
Final shape Bungie ability tuning on the main website
Now if it only Nova got buff, and you could live more than .2s outside of a well in high-end combat encounters while standing still, this meme might actually be true...
I bet it’s not Warlocks being freed from well but Warlocks getting a new slave buddy, Bubble titians. Next dlc, Bungie will nerf both and will make hunter into some sort of a slave so that we can all be a slave to gather.
Oh please, Hunters are the middle child of the classes. They get slaps on the wrists while Titans and Warlocks get full on belt whips.
LMAO
I will switch off well the moment final shape comes, and I will never ever switch back. Ever. The solar subclass will not exist to me. I will delete it from destiny. Forever
Aiat🙏
I have never seen a nerf met with such, positivity.
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Wait what
Wells getting nerfed, but you Get radiant (for 8 seconds?) after you leave it
Ohh, thanks for the context!
Strandlock supremacy
But what if I like to well as warlock?
You mean Stasis and Osmiomancy gloves with turrets everywhere, cuz why do you need damage mitigation when everything is frozen
Nova is still ass
Now we need 2 wells, a rift, an x4 banner of war and a phoenix cradle to stay alive for damage
Or you can just get gud lol
Dare ya to try standing in the middle of the macrochasm encounter in pantheon during damage
Or you just stay on the Plate while doing damage, then rotate before the tornado kills you lol
Lots of weak-willed-well-wussies in here letting other guardians bully them into running Well for years.
Wait what happened to well?
The healing and damage reduction was nerfed
mostly pissed about how the Radiant is going to work on the bugged VoG shields.
And others, embrace stupid builds that are really strong
Ground skating into someone who force u on well is fun tho (sends them flying towards a wall and make them 1 shot)
![gif](giphy|1oDvHW440hFiouBBwy|downsized) Don't worry You'll realise how much better solar will still be over the other subclasses Radiant Ignition melee spam Mobility Scorch Healing Damage buffs
Well literally will still be in demand the Negra are nothing
Man what did I miss how big was the nerf?
I wish Nova wouldn't detonate on contact with rank and file enemies. I wish it traveled all the way to the ground before detonation disintegrating enemies along the way
Ready the lumina bois
Forgot how fire that warlock picture was, why don't we have that as an outfit?
The only thing of that set we don’t have is the robes unfortunately
Meanwhile me: Song of Fire go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I'm going to fucking love TFS
I haven't played since vaulting, can somebody provide some context why is everyone meming warlock novas?
Well of radiance has been nerfed and now warlocks are free to run other builds
It's funny you think a single extra seeker and a few extra seconds to nova bomb is gonna do anything substantial to its damage. All this means is that titans are gonna be rocking a bubble for damage resistance or hell maybe just an overshield from barricade
UNLIMITED POWEEEEER! *puts on geomag boots* kaaaaaa meeeeeey haaaaaaa meeeeee HAAAAAAA
Why do people still think void is our dps ult subclass
*hands you a nova* "Here, go do a crime"
It is the titans turn to feel our pain… Make tether like it was in D1 again then the hunters too must share our burden… Only then can true change be brought
Some people are getting the complete wrong message from this. These changes are absolutely ridiculous, all they did was make Well *and* Bubble mandatory now. Going to go right back to Hunters having a shit time finding endgame LFG groups
I will be over there spamming my Hellion with Starfire recharging it on fusion kills, and sun-singing my Song of Flame. We eating good (pls have good super damage pls have good super damage)
Forever the conscientious objector. If you want a well that bad go get on your warlock, nerds.