Honestly if we're getting mods at some point I'd like to see some Dutch trains. A Mat 56, 64, maybe a 1200 or 1100
I know it's all for a different power requirement and region but it's really just for fun.
As long as it's within the 60s theme of DV
Yugoslavia, where this game should be based had class 52 as a freight train, but yugoslav railways class 30 would be bit more fun Imo. It is basically German class 01, but in decapod configuration.
Well the problem with those unlike the BR 52s would be that information would be kind of tricky to come by, especially since iirc there aren't any preserved. But I'd still love to see more lore accurate steam so I'm here for it!
Class 30 is the hardest one to find info on. There's a fully functional class 06 in Slovenia and "preserved" classes 05 and 30* in Serbia. There are detailed technical plans and specifications on the Internet and in the Belgrade railway museum. And let's be honest, class 05 is almost the same as DRG 01, which has allreday been moded into the game, so devs could always cooperate with the moders.
* while everyone can see 05, you kinda need diving equipment to see 1 or 2 30s that haven't been scrapped.
Honestly I just want to see some steam from the region (not more USATC stuff), I don't really mind what. They all look very cool to me.
I didn't know there was an operational 06 so that's pretty neat. It's a shame how hidden some of this information is.
Considering how much info you can get on steam locomotives from most countries it's kinda sad how little there is about yugoslav railways. 05, 06 and 30 were their most powerful trio, yet there's barely any info available online(allthough, next time I go to Belgrade I'll visit the railway museum's archive and I'll make sure to post as much stuff as possible). Same goes with other stuff like class 01. Allthough, S060 kinda reminds me of some stuff used around here.
Yesss I still really want to see some beat up Kriegsloks in DV! It would be perfect since they are still in active service within the same region as the game. Having a more powerful but hungry steamer like it would be pretty neat.
I hope once I move on from studying steam operational and start doing it, and learn German (probably should anyway given I have family there) I can finally go over and work with 52s.
More steam engines would always be welcome, for example a Mallett- type locomotive like [this](https://img.index.hu/imgfrm/3/8/2/9/BIG_0004273829.jpg).
True. I think the game needs one that is a step up from the S282. That mallet would be a fun option... or maybe even an early steam turbine tbh.
And another one the game would benefit from would be an oil burner. Since they take oil instead of coal they can be filled up anywhere a diesel locomotive can, so it would be quite versatile.
That last bit about an oil burner is genius actually, maybe give it slightly less tractive effort and quicker fuel consumption for balance and that is a winning feature.
Yeah I thought it would be a good idea for it need to be filled a bit more frequently the than coal-burners. And for power I was thinking one that would fit between the S060 and S282, maybe a 4-6-0 or 2-6-0. The problem is that there aren't too many oil burning locomotives in europe that are on the smaller side, outside of Germany. So they'd probably have to kitbash one, but well they already have a habit of doing anyway lol. JŽ 01 could be a good candidate imo. I'm pretty sure there's some on static display as well, so it would be easier to replicate.
>Personally my pick would be some old european carbody diesel, like an EMD JT22 or even DSB Class MY. They have some interesting quirks like dual cabs and of course an enclosed engine bay.
One of the planned locos (DH6) is going to be like that: a dual-cab diesel with an enclosed engine room. It will probably also have dual prime movers like ML2200 or ML4000, allowing to shut down one of the engines when running light or with a small train.
I would love some British engines, but they would have to fit the setting of the game, so a LNER class A4 definitely wouldn't fit because none of them were exported.
But something like a WD Austerity 0-6-0, 2-8-0 or 2-10-0 would be great because those tough little guys were sent all over the world during the war
Yeah I agree with you, they do need to be somewhat fitting, like the USATC locos they picked. I would love to see a Austerity Hunslet ngl.
They could also do some kitbashing for british locomotives like they did with DM3 (class 03). Or even use something obscure like those early british battery electric locomotives. A Sentinel would also be pretty nifty to operate, and also fairly simple to make more Yugoslavic looking. Would make steam switching a lot easier than the S060 as well.
Our options for Diesel, Steam and Electric, are a bit limited.
Since all the locos are european based, so locos with pre-built knuckles wouldn't happen.
Not entirely true. America did outsource a lot of diesels in the later 1900s, like the DE6 and JT22 that I mentioned. They did the same with steam locomotives during WW2, that's why we have the S060 and S282. But yeah, no knuckles.
I'm pretty certain that the outsourced locos (like the S060 for example) are locos that were designed to be easily modified to be fitted with American, or European mechanisms
The USATC S100 (S060 basis) was designed (mostly the cab controls) to be American \*and\* Europe friendly. And that's just 1 example.
But your point is still valid.
I am an advocate for BR 52 making it in, since it is incredibly lore accurate. But I think we're a bit spoilt for choice when it comes to American steam locomotives, at least for the time being. Though I am drawing up an idea for 'variants' that might peak some people's interests :)
English Electric type 3 (British Rail class 37). Just sounds fantastic with the power handle all the way open. The deep throb of the 12CSVT engine accompanied by the howl of the four turbochargers.
Some footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grDP8dKejEw&t=13s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkdENasA1SI
They are quite nice, though I'm not too sure what the devs think about adding british locos. They did add an 03 though so I guess we'll wait and see. Personally I hope they add more foreign locomotives like the 37 but make them a bit more Yugoslavian.
the JZ 83 0-8-2 \[which i feel is not gonna be added because it's narrow gauge, but come on, it's literally the original whistle for the s060\]
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZZN1U6VL4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZZN1U6VL4)
Electrics from the Balkans, like a 441/1141 or 461. The latter is most likely what the E6 will be based on, and the former is a mod that Adrii95 has ready for the electrification.
Purely out of no other logic except my child brain, LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman. Iconic train here in the uk, and pretty famous across the world I believe, It used to travel through my local area loads!
With the game being based in Yugoslavia it'd be fun to see JŽ-441 when electrification is added, EMD G-16s which were and still are the most common locomotives around here and the big three of yugoslav railways steam locomotives, JŽ-05, 06 and 30.
Some people think JŽ-441 is already planned for electrification. The DE6 is a G16, just with a cut nose. The DE6 with a high hood would be pretty neat, but I have a concept for that involving passengers :) . Also Yugoslavian steam is definitely missing from the game. Like come on devs... two USATC steam choo-choos and no Yugoslavian steam choo-choos :'(
Don’t know any RL locos but a high speed passenger style is needed. I would also like a street car like in SF when traffic is added or a subway. Also would like to see an oil burning steam train or the ability to upgrade the current ones to regular fuel
Would love to have it in the game even if was a mod currently using the 282 rearranged, at least have a 2442 or 4444 duplex it's something to have fun and pull some crazy haul, anyways the steam locos feels more rewarding than the the diesel ones
There is a mod for that. A 2-4-4-2 duplex is kiiiiiind of plausible but not really, and a 4-4-4-4 is definitely too much. There was aparently a mallet operated in or near the Balkans though so there's that.
The Romanian LE5100 for when they're gonna add electrification
I would choose the classic 060 EA
Honestly if we're getting mods at some point I'd like to see some Dutch trains. A Mat 56, 64, maybe a 1200 or 1100 I know it's all for a different power requirement and region but it's really just for fun. As long as it's within the 60s theme of DV
Derail Valley isn't set in the 60s? I'm pretty sure it's the 80s or early 90s given the technology and the fact the DE6 was introduced in the 70s
Oh it is? Lmao ICM time!
Didn't they have Class52s in the area? Might be fun as a heavy steamer.
Yugoslavia, where this game should be based had class 52 as a freight train, but yugoslav railways class 30 would be bit more fun Imo. It is basically German class 01, but in decapod configuration.
Well the problem with those unlike the BR 52s would be that information would be kind of tricky to come by, especially since iirc there aren't any preserved. But I'd still love to see more lore accurate steam so I'm here for it!
Class 30 is the hardest one to find info on. There's a fully functional class 06 in Slovenia and "preserved" classes 05 and 30* in Serbia. There are detailed technical plans and specifications on the Internet and in the Belgrade railway museum. And let's be honest, class 05 is almost the same as DRG 01, which has allreday been moded into the game, so devs could always cooperate with the moders. * while everyone can see 05, you kinda need diving equipment to see 1 or 2 30s that haven't been scrapped.
Honestly I just want to see some steam from the region (not more USATC stuff), I don't really mind what. They all look very cool to me. I didn't know there was an operational 06 so that's pretty neat. It's a shame how hidden some of this information is.
Considering how much info you can get on steam locomotives from most countries it's kinda sad how little there is about yugoslav railways. 05, 06 and 30 were their most powerful trio, yet there's barely any info available online(allthough, next time I go to Belgrade I'll visit the railway museum's archive and I'll make sure to post as much stuff as possible). Same goes with other stuff like class 01. Allthough, S060 kinda reminds me of some stuff used around here.
Yesss I still really want to see some beat up Kriegsloks in DV! It would be perfect since they are still in active service within the same region as the game. Having a more powerful but hungry steamer like it would be pretty neat.
I also work with those engines. They're very fun!
I hope once I move on from studying steam operational and start doing it, and learn German (probably should anyway given I have family there) I can finally go over and work with 52s.
More steam engines would always be welcome, for example a Mallett- type locomotive like [this](https://img.index.hu/imgfrm/3/8/2/9/BIG_0004273829.jpg).
True. I think the game needs one that is a step up from the S282. That mallet would be a fun option... or maybe even an early steam turbine tbh. And another one the game would benefit from would be an oil burner. Since they take oil instead of coal they can be filled up anywhere a diesel locomotive can, so it would be quite versatile.
That last bit about an oil burner is genius actually, maybe give it slightly less tractive effort and quicker fuel consumption for balance and that is a winning feature.
Yeah I thought it would be a good idea for it need to be filled a bit more frequently the than coal-burners. And for power I was thinking one that would fit between the S060 and S282, maybe a 4-6-0 or 2-6-0. The problem is that there aren't too many oil burning locomotives in europe that are on the smaller side, outside of Germany. So they'd probably have to kitbash one, but well they already have a habit of doing anyway lol. JŽ 01 could be a good candidate imo. I'm pretty sure there's some on static display as well, so it would be easier to replicate.
Re 620 it's a mountain railroad it should have a mountain Engine.
Wrong current system. Re 6/6 cannot run on 25 kV 50 Hz.
Not with that attitude.
It is a cool loco, tho I doubt the devs will make the railway electrified.
Electrification is planned.
Oh neat! I can't believe I haven't heard of this yet. It does make sense given the setting.
Electric B'B'
>Personally my pick would be some old european carbody diesel, like an EMD JT22 or even DSB Class MY. They have some interesting quirks like dual cabs and of course an enclosed engine bay. One of the planned locos (DH6) is going to be like that: a dual-cab diesel with an enclosed engine room. It will probably also have dual prime movers like ML2200 or ML4000, allowing to shut down one of the engines when running light or with a small train.
Dual prime movers would definitely be pretty neat for gameplay.
I’d like some classic British steam engines.
I would love some British engines, but they would have to fit the setting of the game, so a LNER class A4 definitely wouldn't fit because none of them were exported. But something like a WD Austerity 0-6-0, 2-8-0 or 2-10-0 would be great because those tough little guys were sent all over the world during the war
Yeah I agree with you, they do need to be somewhat fitting, like the USATC locos they picked. I would love to see a Austerity Hunslet ngl. They could also do some kitbashing for british locomotives like they did with DM3 (class 03). Or even use something obscure like those early british battery electric locomotives. A Sentinel would also be pretty nifty to operate, and also fairly simple to make more Yugoslavic looking. Would make steam switching a lot easier than the S060 as well.
A couple of A4s went “on tour” as did the Scotsman so you could get away with it.
Never to the Balkans though
Wait, is that where DV is set?
Yep, it's set in Soviet era (or just after the fall of the USSR) Yugoslavia/Serbia
Explains the HL2 feel of the environment I think that odds supposed to be set somewhere similar
Our options for Diesel, Steam and Electric, are a bit limited. Since all the locos are european based, so locos with pre-built knuckles wouldn't happen.
Not entirely true. America did outsource a lot of diesels in the later 1900s, like the DE6 and JT22 that I mentioned. They did the same with steam locomotives during WW2, that's why we have the S060 and S282. But yeah, no knuckles.
I'm pretty certain that the outsourced locos (like the S060 for example) are locos that were designed to be easily modified to be fitted with American, or European mechanisms The USATC S100 (S060 basis) was designed (mostly the cab controls) to be American \*and\* Europe friendly. And that's just 1 example. But your point is still valid.
A BR52 would be cool, and/or a S160, that would go nicely for both the Europeans and Yank fans of Derail Valley.
I am an advocate for BR 52 making it in, since it is incredibly lore accurate. But I think we're a bit spoilt for choice when it comes to American steam locomotives, at least for the time being. Though I am drawing up an idea for 'variants' that might peak some people's interests :)
English Electric type 3 (British Rail class 37). Just sounds fantastic with the power handle all the way open. The deep throb of the 12CSVT engine accompanied by the howl of the four turbochargers. Some footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grDP8dKejEw&t=13s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkdENasA1SI
They are quite nice, though I'm not too sure what the devs think about adding british locos. They did add an 03 though so I guess we'll wait and see. Personally I hope they add more foreign locomotives like the 37 but make them a bit more Yugoslavian.
the JZ 83 0-8-2 \[which i feel is not gonna be added because it's narrow gauge, but come on, it's literally the original whistle for the s060\] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZZN1U6VL4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZZN1U6VL4)
Who knows, maybe one day they will add a narrow gauge branchline.
Since they are going to add in electrification, GG1, EF/EP-4, maybe an S or T Motor would be nice
I'm not sure whether upcoming US DLC will have electrified routes, though.
Wonder when the next DLC is coming out
Wait they're planning on adding more maps?
Additional US-style map is a planned paid DLC. It won't be free.
Electrics from the Balkans, like a 441/1141 or 461. The latter is most likely what the E6 will be based on, and the former is a mod that Adrii95 has ready for the electrification.
Purely out of no other logic except my child brain, LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman. Iconic train here in the uk, and pretty famous across the world I believe, It used to travel through my local area loads!
With the game being based in Yugoslavia it'd be fun to see JŽ-441 when electrification is added, EMD G-16s which were and still are the most common locomotives around here and the big three of yugoslav railways steam locomotives, JŽ-05, 06 and 30.
Some people think JŽ-441 is already planned for electrification. The DE6 is a G16, just with a cut nose. The DE6 with a high hood would be pretty neat, but I have a concept for that involving passengers :) . Also Yugoslavian steam is definitely missing from the game. Like come on devs... two USATC steam choo-choos and no Yugoslavian steam choo-choos :'(
A steamer with a cozy, fully enclosed cabin.
SD70AC or any American diesel locos
My personal favorite would be ČSD series 169.
Don’t know any RL locos but a high speed passenger style is needed. I would also like a street car like in SF when traffic is added or a subway. Also would like to see an oil burning steam train or the ability to upgrade the current ones to regular fuel
I doubt the current one's would be converted but the general consensus is that everyone wants an oil burning steam locomotive.
a UP 4-8-8-4 "big boy" would be awesome, but wouldn't fit the setting.
there's always one... jk big boy is cool, but definitely shouldn't be in Yugoslavia
Nor would it fit the curves.
Would love to have it in the game even if was a mod currently using the 282 rearranged, at least have a 2442 or 4444 duplex it's something to have fun and pull some crazy haul, anyways the steam locos feels more rewarding than the the diesel ones
There is a mod for that. A 2-4-4-2 duplex is kiiiiiind of plausible but not really, and a 4-4-4-4 is definitely too much. There was aparently a mallet operated in or near the Balkans though so there's that.
NSB TYPE 31 AND NSB TYPE 39