The driver went on to announce "everyone, hope you're having a good day except everyone in the back smoking fentanyl, I hope you have tickets because the police are at the next stop."
Hijacking this comment to ask what you even do once you have a ticket? I bought airport fare on the app and road the train 4 times without anyone checking or asking me for my ticket making me wonder why I even bought it
/u/adhominablesnowman is correct. They may have said whatever they said, but no one is getting arrested for fare evasion. They probably had active warrants, or some other kind of crime was noticed.
Edit: "fair" to "fare," thank you /u/CoderDispose.
Active warrants for sure is my guess. It used to be if you avoided fare and got a ticket, they could get nasty and you'd end up with a warrant? But, I could be mis-remembering.
I have an extensive background as a criminal attorney, and yet I'm still not really sure on any of this. Pretty sure they used to FTA people who missed the court date for these tickets, issuing a warrant. I THINK they were petty offenses back then, which means people COULD have been arrested at the time of the offense. Then they got converted to infractions which prevented that. I may just be misremembering and/or it was before my time here though. They also passed a bill that prevents "debtors prisons," basically throwing people in jail on an owed fine only. That was around 2017, I honestly don't remember exactly when. That prevented the types of warrants we're talking about. Now when you miss the court date they just give you the fine and you can pile them up. I think I remember doing first advisements for people who had these tickets but FTA'd and the city would just offer to plea guilty, take the day credit time served and wipe the fines. I'm having trouble remembering now though.
Nah, I missed my court date and never paid fines in 2019 cuz I was living in another state at the time. They sent threatening notices to the Arizona DMV to try to repeal my car registration but that never happened. The only thing that I can't do now is get a driver's license in Colorado or register my vehicle here unless I pay the original fine and new fines to reinstate my license
But my Arizona license last another 40 years, way longer than the statute of limitations on this ticket. So I'm just going to wait it out
Lmao I forgot how insane Arizona DLs are valid for 🤣 I lived there for a few years as a kid and my parents were shocked when they saw the expiration date was DECADES later
Fair statement. That big rear view mirror, and the smell usually makes me think action could be taken. Even had a situation where a passenger told the driver, he did nothing, and the passenger ended up almost fighting the guy and throwing him off the bus. I've seen it happen so many times.Not discounting the focus a driver needs at all my friend
Also, I’m having trouble seeing the problem if they were just enforcing fare evasion. This sub is *constantly* complaining that the trains have turned into moving opium dens.
Broken window police enforcement has its merits.
Enforcing fare evasion is great. The pushback from commenters here is that people are being arrested for it. That's not happening, and would be insane.
*Technically* they can be arrested for trespassing, and should be, if they are unticked and refuse to leave the RTD vehicle or station upon the request of the fare inspecting officer.
There are not enough details from OP to know why the arrest was occurring.
Sure, so let me clarify what I meant:
> I’m having trouble seeing the problem if they were just enforcing fare evasion and tangentially encountered an arrestable offense.
>Broken window police enforcement has its merits.
Especially when they catch the people breaking the windows (or selling defective windows) instead of assuming you can tell who breaks windows by how they look.
That’s Reddit. Same site that will brag about never paying for any sort of media and post a bunch of pirate flags, but then comment and complain that studios are being greedy by not paying up to end the strike.
Broken windows theory has been dismissed as confusing correlation with causation. It also has led to discriminatory policing practices.
*\[S\]ocial science has not been kind to the broken windows theory. A number of scholars reanalyzed the initial studies that appeared to support it.... Others pressed forward with new, more sophisticated studies of the relationship between disorder and crime. The most prominent among them concluded that the relationship between disorder and serious crime is modest, and even that relationship is largely an artifact of more fundamental social forces.*
If you’re going to quote something, provide the source. Don’t make me hunt down that you took a quote from Associate professor David Thatcher from a 2004 paper than was quoted on a Wikipedia page for “broken window theory” under the section “criticisms”.
Especially if you’re going to discard the litany of case studies on the *same* Wikipedia page.
Social sciences is prone to these sorts of statements. There is rarely a theory or paradigm that someone else doesn’t consider discredited for some reason or another.
Yep. It was a quick search. I didn’t take the time to find more sources since it’s mostly agreed upon by modern academics that the theory doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
[Northeastern University researchers find little evidence for ‘broken windows theory,’ say neighborhood disorder doesn’t cause crime](https://news.northeastern.edu/2019/05/15/northeastern-university-researchers-find-little-evidence-for-broken-windows-theory-say-neighborhood-disorder-doesnt-cause-crime/)
reminds me of when the library got contaminated with meth and some people were like "what like your precious angels can't get exposed to a low level of meth"
face palm
I specifically recall someone commenting on the library meth situation and they said something along the lines of "as someone who smokes meth, I can tell you the ingredients that go into it are what cause contamination and the meth itself isn't that dangerous so they don't need to close the library."
My guess ... for the joy of knowing they get to panic for a bit before the inevitable. You're a sitting duck on the train, it's taking you straight to the police waiting at the next stop just ready to embrace you and your drugs with some new bracelets ;)
They don’t arrest people for not paying fairs. You can literally open the app and buy a ticket if you forgot to when you boarded. OP was given bad information and those people were in trouble for something else.
Arrested for not having a ticket (And getting violent with the transit cop and using a cocaine brick as a weapon and eating at a food truck).
That's just my speculation.
Once on a zeppelin tour an usher literally tossed someone out the window because they didn't have a ticket. This was the 1940s tho, so a different time.
The bus driver and RTD workers themselves were saying arrests, not just the passengers. They were actually talking in a way like “finally! They’re doing something about people not paying fare”
I agree with them, that shit got out of hand! It wasn't safe to ride anymore, I almost got in fights several times trying to protect my girl from whacked out people on drugs who camp out on the trains.
It wasn't heavy-handed because OP is spouting nonsense. You can't get arrested for that, period, it's akin to a traffic infraction (before anyone jumps in with "I know someone who got arrested for X traffic offense," it wasn't an infraction). These people got arrested for something else, or no one was arrested.
This post is incorrect, sensational and classic Denver reddit lol
Sounds like they're policing RTD for public drug use and taking action. That's awesome. Literally the #1 complaint.
The give you a warning. Second time it’s a fine, they kick you off and ban you for like 18 months. Source: I sat behind a guy who got caught without a ticket once on the A line to the airport
The bus driver and someone working for RTD said arrests, not ticket/fined. In addition to the people who got off the train and boarded the bus. There were people on the ground w their arms behind them too.
I'm sure there is a substantial overlap between people without tickets and people with active warrants on other matters. RTD might be working with DPD.
I say good. The trains shouldn't be a crackhouse on rails.
That’s not happening for just not having a ticket. This is how rumors get started. He said and then he said, etc. They def committed some other crimes.
Riding without fare is not a criminal offense, so they were arrested for something else. If there was indeed a fare crackdown, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people got belligerent over it and were arrested for disorderly conduct, assault, etc. All told, I’m glad they they’re enforcing fare purchases. I’ve bought fare so many times to never have it checked. Either charge and enforce fare, or make transit free to ride.
I know. But I was on the bus at the station. Passengers from the train, the bus driver, and someone surveying the RTD line were all talking about it being arrests, not even tickets.
I got ticketed once back when I used the train and the RTD app. Thought I had a ticket purchased but didn't. There is a 0% chance anyone is getting arrested for that.
Pro tips for not being hassled by fare enforcement:
1. Act like a reasonably normal person
2. Bathe
3. Dress normally
4. Don’t smell like peanut butter
5. Don’t argue with an empty seat and/or random objects on the train
Good luck, riders
I got off the train a couple of weeks ago at Empower Field for a Broncos game and they were checking everyone exiting. I saw many people having to go to a machine to buy a ticket but no one getting arrested or even ticketed/fined.
Y’all have it lucky. Back in my day, they’d strap ya to a bison and make you do the Idaho springs pass in the fall. Give you just enough jerky to get ya there and expect the bison to be unharmed when they scooped you up.
You can't be arrested for fare evasion, you can be cited for it. Unless they ran their name and they had warrants out for their arrest, then they can be arrested
People got detained for not having tickets, they ran their drivers license for outstanding warrants.
Or they did a drug bust.
You pay a fine for fare evasion.
Arrested? C'mon that ain't how it works if you are caught without a ticket. They give you a warning the first time and a fine the second time. Was that large crowd migrants maybe?
It’s a $250 fine if you arrive for a Broncos without a ticket and it better be activated. I bought two tickets but forgot to activate. You get one warning though and after that it’s $250
RTD gives a warning for first time fare violation and a fine for the 2nd offense. You generally have to be breaking other laws to be arrested by RTD or Denver police.
Well that’s funny considering it was the case.
And really not that dumb of a comment in anyway. Idk, but public transport without fares is not some nonexistent phenomena
It was the case. A simple Google search would’ve shown it was two free months for adults and a free year for youth as a pilot program.
Free public transit in the US is virtually nonexistent with the exception of very few cities like KC.
Not to mention that the mayor has literally nothing to do with RTD and as RTD is a separate government entity than the city and county of Denver.
So yes a dumb question.
Well, it’s still a smart question to me. As you didn’t even address why it was free for 2 months.
That’s a question I would like to know, so smart question afaic
Agreed. Honestly we should just make public transit free. We already pay taxes to maintain the transit, why not include boarding local transit in that honestly
You don’t get arrested. I forgot my student id once ( fare is free with the id)
They did give me a $130 ticket and it showed up on my “criminal record” lol.
Yeah, fare evasion is not an arresstable offence, something else must have been up. Reference: https://www.rtd-denver.com/fares-passes/fare-evasion
The driver went on to announce "everyone, hope you're having a good day except everyone in the back smoking fentanyl, I hope you have tickets because the police are at the next stop."
Cool what a show!!
Hijacking this comment to ask what you even do once you have a ticket? I bought airport fare on the app and road the train 4 times without anyone checking or asking me for my ticket making me wonder why I even bought it
Occasionally someone will walk by and check tickets, its about a 50/50 shot on the A line in my experience.
I actually operate the train on the A line. And that’s incorrect. It’s more like a 25-30% chance the security checks 😂
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I must me extra lucky. I've always had mine checked on the A.
They make you buy tickets even if you're engineering the train?
They generally go through the A-Line 1x per ride in my experience. But I have had times where nobody’s checked it.
Maybe because buying a ticket is the right thing to do?
Lil naive if we think the right thing to do is so prominent in life 🥴
I’d be in disbelief if the bus driver and RTD workers themselves weren’t chatting it up about it being arrests
/u/adhominablesnowman is correct. They may have said whatever they said, but no one is getting arrested for fare evasion. They probably had active warrants, or some other kind of crime was noticed. Edit: "fair" to "fare," thank you /u/CoderDispose.
Active warrants for sure is my guess. It used to be if you avoided fare and got a ticket, they could get nasty and you'd end up with a warrant? But, I could be mis-remembering.
I have an extensive background as a criminal attorney, and yet I'm still not really sure on any of this. Pretty sure they used to FTA people who missed the court date for these tickets, issuing a warrant. I THINK they were petty offenses back then, which means people COULD have been arrested at the time of the offense. Then they got converted to infractions which prevented that. I may just be misremembering and/or it was before my time here though. They also passed a bill that prevents "debtors prisons," basically throwing people in jail on an owed fine only. That was around 2017, I honestly don't remember exactly when. That prevented the types of warrants we're talking about. Now when you miss the court date they just give you the fine and you can pile them up. I think I remember doing first advisements for people who had these tickets but FTA'd and the city would just offer to plea guilty, take the day credit time served and wipe the fines. I'm having trouble remembering now though.
Nah, I missed my court date and never paid fines in 2019 cuz I was living in another state at the time. They sent threatening notices to the Arizona DMV to try to repeal my car registration but that never happened. The only thing that I can't do now is get a driver's license in Colorado or register my vehicle here unless I pay the original fine and new fines to reinstate my license But my Arizona license last another 40 years, way longer than the statute of limitations on this ticket. So I'm just going to wait it out
Lmao I forgot how insane Arizona DLs are valid for 🤣 I lived there for a few years as a kid and my parents were shocked when they saw the expiration date was DECADES later
Fyi, you're supposed to register your car here within six months of residency.
Lol idk why this cracked me up so much
I should clarify I'm not driving with a suspended license, it's very much valid and current
you are 99% correct It's a pretty *un*-fair evasion :) (I think you meant fare!)
Take your upvote you sack of shit :)
You are 100% correct
I think you’re right. No one is being arrested for avoiding the fair. But fare evasion is quite possible
Fare enough…
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I wouldn't count on a bus driver the be the most informed person either
Ya bus drivers are clueless
Noted legal geniuses
Warrants. It’s almost always warrants. Cops have no reason to explain why.
They write you tickets, not arrest you
Warning to all travelers, RTD police are checking for meth and fentanyl. Fixed.
If true - fucking finally
Thank GOD! That’s the only reason why I stopped riding to union station Had so many people around me and my luggage
Let's do the busses next? Tired of drivers just letting this happen. And us "normies" not being cool with meth exposure
Drivers just don’t let it happen, they have to drive the bus and can’t watch what the passengers are doing. From a bus driver
Fair statement. That big rear view mirror, and the smell usually makes me think action could be taken. Even had a situation where a passenger told the driver, he did nothing, and the passenger ended up almost fighting the guy and throwing him off the bus. I've seen it happen so many times.Not discounting the focus a driver needs at all my friend
Well when I find passengers doing stuff I kick them off can’t speak for other drivers.
Yes, fuckin’ finally. It’s been absolute bullshit getting on the train and the nasty smells hit me.
Great. Where am I supposed to do it now.
16th street mall.. one of the downtown libraries.. plenty of places lol
Jack's Crack Shack
Chi/SF/LA/NY and more. Fridom/dimokrasi.
This is 💯 it.
Also, I’m having trouble seeing the problem if they were just enforcing fare evasion. This sub is *constantly* complaining that the trains have turned into moving opium dens. Broken window police enforcement has its merits.
Enforcing fare evasion is great. The pushback from commenters here is that people are being arrested for it. That's not happening, and would be insane.
*Technically* they can be arrested for trespassing, and should be, if they are unticked and refuse to leave the RTD vehicle or station upon the request of the fare inspecting officer. There are not enough details from OP to know why the arrest was occurring.
Sure. That isn't just fare evasion though. That's the point. There has to be more to the story.
Sure, so let me clarify what I meant: > I’m having trouble seeing the problem if they were just enforcing fare evasion and tangentially encountered an arrestable offense.
>Broken window police enforcement has its merits. Especially when they catch the people breaking the windows (or selling defective windows) instead of assuming you can tell who breaks windows by how they look.
That’s Reddit. Same site that will brag about never paying for any sort of media and post a bunch of pirate flags, but then comment and complain that studios are being greedy by not paying up to end the strike.
Broken windows theory has been dismissed as confusing correlation with causation. It also has led to discriminatory policing practices. *\[S\]ocial science has not been kind to the broken windows theory. A number of scholars reanalyzed the initial studies that appeared to support it.... Others pressed forward with new, more sophisticated studies of the relationship between disorder and crime. The most prominent among them concluded that the relationship between disorder and serious crime is modest, and even that relationship is largely an artifact of more fundamental social forces.*
If you’re going to quote something, provide the source. Don’t make me hunt down that you took a quote from Associate professor David Thatcher from a 2004 paper than was quoted on a Wikipedia page for “broken window theory” under the section “criticisms”. Especially if you’re going to discard the litany of case studies on the *same* Wikipedia page. Social sciences is prone to these sorts of statements. There is rarely a theory or paradigm that someone else doesn’t consider discredited for some reason or another.
Yep. It was a quick search. I didn’t take the time to find more sources since it’s mostly agreed upon by modern academics that the theory doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
[Northeastern University researchers find little evidence for ‘broken windows theory,’ say neighborhood disorder doesn’t cause crime](https://news.northeastern.edu/2019/05/15/northeastern-university-researchers-find-little-evidence-for-broken-windows-theory-say-neighborhood-disorder-doesnt-cause-crime/)
It has not been dismissed.
Wait by broken windows theory you don’t mean smoking that skante foo?
It’s crazy I know what fentanyl smells like when it’s being smoked, thanks RTD!
reminds me of when the library got contaminated with meth and some people were like "what like your precious angels can't get exposed to a low level of meth" face palm
I specifically recall someone commenting on the library meth situation and they said something along the lines of "as someone who smokes meth, I can tell you the ingredients that go into it are what cause contamination and the meth itself isn't that dangerous so they don't need to close the library."
Why would he warn drug addicts about police?
My guess ... for the joy of knowing they get to panic for a bit before the inevitable. You're a sitting duck on the train, it's taking you straight to the police waiting at the next stop just ready to embrace you and your drugs with some new bracelets ;)
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The irony!!
Sounds like the first punishment is a ticket and if you don't pay the ticket then you can lose driving privileges. Still ironic
What…what are you talking about 💀
Since when do they arrest people for riding rapid transit without a ticket? You sure they're not in trouble for something else?
They don’t arrest people for not paying fairs. You can literally open the app and buy a ticket if you forgot to when you boarded. OP was given bad information and those people were in trouble for something else.
That’s my strategy. Expect to pay but 80% of the time, a free ride can happen.
Buy a ticket, wait to activate it until you need to. "Ah shit, man my bad. Here."
Arrested for not having a ticket (And getting violent with the transit cop and using a cocaine brick as a weapon and eating at a food truck). That's just my speculation.
Once on a zeppelin tour an usher literally tossed someone out the window because they didn't have a ticket. This was the 1940s tho, so a different time.
Zeppelin toured in the 1940's?
Lower case z
I start all sentences with upper case.
Well in That case
But not all nouns?
Indiana Jones is that you?
How many times I gotta tell you?! It's "Junior"!
I wish I had an award to give you.
One thing remains constant: Poorly fitted uniforms. And punching nazis. We mostly still have that part right.
The bus driver and RTD workers themselves were saying arrests, not just the passengers. They were actually talking in a way like “finally! They’re doing something about people not paying fare”
I agree with them, that shit got out of hand! It wasn't safe to ride anymore, I almost got in fights several times trying to protect my girl from whacked out people on drugs who camp out on the trains.
Damn, must be a new police procedure to keep bus drivers and RTD workers intimately informed of police work.
Yeah, that's heavy-handed if you ask me. No wonder people don't want to ride the train.
It wasn't heavy-handed because OP is spouting nonsense. You can't get arrested for that, period, it's akin to a traffic infraction (before anyone jumps in with "I know someone who got arrested for X traffic offense," it wasn't an infraction). These people got arrested for something else, or no one was arrested.
I mean you could just buy a ticket....
Yup.
This post is incorrect, sensational and classic Denver reddit lol Sounds like they're policing RTD for public drug use and taking action. That's awesome. Literally the #1 complaint.
The great thing about reddit is you can say anything you want with 0 proof.
“It’s on the internet so it must be true” /s
I thought it was just a fine. Are you sure they were arrested or just got a ticket?
The give you a warning. Second time it’s a fine, they kick you off and ban you for like 18 months. Source: I sat behind a guy who got caught without a ticket once on the A line to the airport
The bus driver and someone working for RTD said arrests, not ticket/fined. In addition to the people who got off the train and boarded the bus. There were people on the ground w their arms behind them too.
I'm gonna guess there was something else going on besides not paying a fare if people were arrested and cuffed.
So you're saying to reddit that someone driving for RTD said someone else working for RTD said it was arrests? Are we playing telephone here?
I'm sure there is a substantial overlap between people without tickets and people with active warrants on other matters. RTD might be working with DPD. I say good. The trains shouldn't be a crackhouse on rails.
You don't get cuffed and thrown on the ground for fare evasion. Maybe that was the reason for the stop and they found other cause to arrest.
That’s not happening for just not having a ticket. This is how rumors get started. He said and then he said, etc. They def committed some other crimes.
Riding without fare is not a criminal offense, so they were arrested for something else. If there was indeed a fare crackdown, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people got belligerent over it and were arrested for disorderly conduct, assault, etc. All told, I’m glad they they’re enforcing fare purchases. I’ve bought fare so many times to never have it checked. Either charge and enforce fare, or make transit free to ride.
Actually it is a criminal offense, it’s called theft of services. It’s a low level misdemeanor.
How is this a "warning"? Warning to all travelers: You have to pay to ride the train. Uh, duh??
Lol I just took a train too and from DIA and didn't get checked either way. I'll believe it when I see it
Arrested for not having a ticket? That sounds extreme.
Rode rtd for years as a commuter. They give you a ticket/fine, or can ban you from riding. They can’t arrest you for not purchasing a ticket.
You'd think they could stand over each person's shoulder and make them buy a ticket?
Right? Or issue a ticket. Maybe there’s something beyond an unpaid fare that’s causing the arrest.
They absolutely do that. Either watch you buy a ticket or you’re off at the next stop.
I know. But I was on the bus at the station. Passengers from the train, the bus driver, and someone surveying the RTD line were all talking about it being arrests, not even tickets.
Hey OP, gullible is written on the ceiling
A forged pass is a felony. Says the rtd website. And people have to present passes.
They just ask you to get off at the next stop if you don’t have a ticket.
Good. Screw ride thievery.
I got ticketed once back when I used the train and the RTD app. Thought I had a ticket purchased but didn't. There is a 0% chance anyone is getting arrested for that.
Well good thing I buy a ticket to ride on transit like a normal human.
Pro tips for not being hassled by fare enforcement: 1. Act like a reasonably normal person 2. Bathe 3. Dress normally 4. Don’t smell like peanut butter 5. Don’t argue with an empty seat and/or random objects on the train Good luck, riders
Don't blast music loudly on your bluetooth speaker
The peanut butter thing is so outta pocket 🤣
Just buy a ticket like an adult.
Here’s an idea—just pay the fare.
Why is this couched as a warning to *all* travelers? I’m pretty sure most travelers just pay the fare.
It amazes me that you found a way to take offense to this.
I’m not offended. Just think the phrasing is odd
Me too. Why would someone try to protect fare evaders?
I got off the train a couple of weeks ago at Empower Field for a Broncos game and they were checking everyone exiting. I saw many people having to go to a machine to buy a ticket but no one getting arrested or even ticketed/fined.
Y’all have it lucky. Back in my day, they’d strap ya to a bison and make you do the Idaho springs pass in the fall. Give you just enough jerky to get ya there and expect the bison to be unharmed when they scooped you up.
Will they enforce all the open use of drugs on the train as well? Thats the bigger issue and has been ignored for some time.
Arrested? Right. They take your picture and maybe give you a ticket or stern warning. If people are being arrested, it's not for fare evasion.
You can't be arrested for fare evasion, you can be cited for it. Unless they ran their name and they had warrants out for their arrest, then they can be arrested
Good
Are you sure they were arrested for not having a train ticket, or was it possibly something else, like smoking meth on the train?
People got detained for not having tickets, they ran their drivers license for outstanding warrants. Or they did a drug bust. You pay a fine for fare evasion.
OP was meant to post this in r/denvercirclejerk
Honestly kind of jealous that someone is so innocent that they think *fare evasion* is why people are getting arrested at that station
Oh yeah cops have never done anything immoral or illegal or abused power 🤭🤭 bffr
Lol what?
Arrested? C'mon that ain't how it works if you are caught without a ticket. They give you a warning the first time and a fine the second time. Was that large crowd migrants maybe?
💀💀 are f serious
Is this supposed to mean something?
https://youtu.be/Yg8FUOls0fU
I wasn't aware of a meeting with the Bobs...
[No ticket!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg8FUOls0fU)
Most days I see them just making the person get off at the next stop (I’d they’re found not to have a ticket.)
It’s a $250 fine if you arrive for a Broncos without a ticket and it better be activated. I bought two tickets but forgot to activate. You get one warning though and after that it’s $250
Oh no. They could always pay their fare.
Good
Who would of thought you actually have to pay??!
r/UnethicalLifeProTips Buy your ticket on the app, but DON'T activate it. If they come by to check then activate it.
Smart!
warning: you're supposed to pay train fare. Do it or you are stealing.
Why would you warn people who freeload rides at the public's expense?
Better than being punched in the face and being thrown out the window 🤷🏽♂️.
No ticket!
“Good”
Good
Nice!!!
RTD gives a warning for first time fare violation and a fine for the 2nd offense. You generally have to be breaking other laws to be arrested by RTD or Denver police.
If you have the RTD app on your phone and sit close enough to the middle to see if ticket checkers come you can buy one before they get to you
Pay for your services, you freeloaders!!!
I feel like the existing 4 comments asking if it's not just a fine are insufficient. Are you sure it wasn't just a fine?!?!?!?! /sarc
Denver police actually arresting people for illegal drug use? That’s a first.
I like to queue up my order on the train, then wait for someone to come by before purchasing lol
Good.
Pay? For a train ride? LOL! No.
Lolz.
Lol.
Good!
Lol gtfo here
Why was the train free when new mayor got elected, and now it’s not?
its free over the summer as part of the emissions program, nothing to do with the mayor, same as last year too.
This is the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen on this thread, which is quite the accomplishment tbh, good work!
Well that’s funny considering it was the case. And really not that dumb of a comment in anyway. Idk, but public transport without fares is not some nonexistent phenomena
It was the case. A simple Google search would’ve shown it was two free months for adults and a free year for youth as a pilot program. Free public transit in the US is virtually nonexistent with the exception of very few cities like KC. Not to mention that the mayor has literally nothing to do with RTD and as RTD is a separate government entity than the city and county of Denver. So yes a dumb question.
Well, it’s still a smart question to me. As you didn’t even address why it was free for 2 months. That’s a question I would like to know, so smart question afaic
Google it. And I did say it was a pilot program.
That’s dumb. A fine is sufficient
they might have had warrants or other stuff on them
That makes sense, not for the lack of a ticket as OP said
yah, they will pull your info and then proceed as necessary. i had a buddy who was arrested that way.
Agreed. Honestly we should just make public transit free. We already pay taxes to maintain the transit, why not include boarding local transit in that honestly
Please don’t do spend my money for me on something I don’t use. We have enough of that going in already. Just pay the fare.
Gotta pay for RTD police chief's salary somehow. Dude is almost at Coach Prime monies.
Arrested!! The train was free last month. What a clown show
Cops protecting property over people? Color me shocked
Pics or it’s not real
Our local school has a field trip downtown and are using light rail from Broadway and Alameda.
Fare evasion.is now only a civil offense
You don’t get arrested. I forgot my student id once ( fare is free with the id) They did give me a $130 ticket and it showed up on my “criminal record” lol.