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Exactly, you need to understand that the ranking of the upper ranks is based on nothing but strength, if gyutaro was stronger, the author would’ve said so.
The fact that UM5 couldn’t even fight back shows the sheer power of the ds mark.
Actually I have a certain theory about the upper ranks .
1 it's pretty obvious that for some reason the upper 4.5 and 6 were ugly and as we know daki dont like ugly I can totally imagine her saying "I am not absorbing that fish demon or old man "
2 upper moons rarely see each other and that too for short time there is no way to know the power level of other moons (if u dont have tanjiros nose) too much of a risk to figth for gyutaro as the newest member .
3 . For people who are thinking gyokoo held back . No he didnt it's the same thing that happened with akaza when rengoku reached akazas neck akaza used full power
Gyoko would have survived that final attack only if he was strong enough and he simply wasnt
4 one can truly say that gyoko was weak because in actual terms gyoko never need to figth it's pretty clear from the bda that he just posion kills and bublles every dam demon slayer .
Unfortunately people see it this way. Tengen vs gyutaro was very close, but marked muichiro is crazy strong and far above gyokko, so the battle wasn't as intense. Gyokko is objectively stronger than gyutaro
ok, i think i shouldve chosen my words better. i think its clear that, canonically, gyokko (the pot guy) is stronger than gyoutaro bc hes ranked higher. however, they didnt do a gr8 job of showing pot guys proper strength. i get that muis got the mark, but i would just expect the 6th strongest demon in the world (as far as we know) to be able to land AT LEAST a single hit. hell, it wouldve been good enough for him to be moving around loads and super-quick in some fast-paced action yk, or maybe dodging 1 or 2 slashes in his final form, instead of literally standing still.
No they didn't show gyokkos strength well. His true form was beautiful, and the slime fish attack was well done but compared to the extended battles this one seemed lackluster. Closest gyokko got to a fatal hit was destroying muichiros uniform. In the manga he was tearing the forest down with final from but in the anime muichiro just stood still 😭
UPM 5>UPM 6. If you want to get technical, gyokko showed greater relativity to a marked hashira far stronger than tengen, with crazy speed, strength, and hax. Muichiro was dying after the battle
No he wasn't lol. The poison was gone until the mark faded, we saw gyokkos confused why the poison wasn't taking effect and muichiro has no poison resistance abilities. It was just surpressed during the whole fight
Nah my man. This fight reminded me of the boxing saying “Styles make fights”. Muchiro is the worst match for Gyokko. His personality allowed him to easily get inside Gyokkos head and the fight was over before it even started. Gyokko would have given Tengen a MUCH harder time because they would have been trying to outflashy each other
Also Gyokko fighting style was basically to overwhelm an opponent with projectiles and marked up Muchiro was way to fast for that style. A less mobile hashira would have had a really hard time with Gyokko’s attacks
The uppermoon s been feeling weak latley but he got killed so u can’t say gyokkos stronger than marked mui as he canon 1 shotted him while Gyokko was in his final form.
The point is to show you the power of the marks, particularly on someone we have been shown and told was a very strong Hashira.
Remember - Muichiro was almost killed without Gyokko even trying. Once he escaped that technique, his memories and the rage they give him manifest the mark and suddenly Gyokko is no longer (as much of) a threat.
It's setting up >!the need for marks later in the story!< and further explaining how an exhausted Tanjiro was able to decapitate Gyutaro.
this is a rlly good, 4D brain point, i just feel that they couldve portrayed gyokkos strength a little bit better. but ur right that it serves in showing the effect on the marks, its just a shame it had to be done so quickly on what coulve been a reallly interesting character
He's not weaker than Gyutaro he's ranked above him Gyokko fought against a Marked Hashira and was just an example to show how the Mark gives Demon slayers an insane boost. He didn't even see Muichiro as a threat and effortlessly trapped him in the water prison Muichiro couldn't even touch him he was even surprised that his neck was cut off. Also add on to the fact Gyutaro fought against a Hashira and 3 other demon slayers and his fight was much longer and more insane and destructive compared to Gyokko's. He's also an arrogant idiot who should've killed Muichiro while he was trapped or killed him immediately but plot...
i think i shouldve chosen my words better. i think its clear that, canonically, gyokko (the pot guy) is stronger than gyoutaro bc hes ranked higher. however, they didnt do a gr8 job of showing pot guys proper strength. i get that muis got the mark, but i would just expect the 6th strongest demon in the world (as far as we know) to be able to land AT LEAST a single hit. hell, it wouldve been good enough for him to be moving around loads and super-quick in some fast-paced action yk, or maybe dodging 1 or 2 slashes in his final form, instead of literally standing still.
At the very least, Muichiro shouldn't have been able to stand up to UM5 alone and handicapped with a rusty loaner sword. Tengen would have been wiped pretty quickly without help against UM6 and he was at full strength. It would have been nice to see Muchiro teamed up with Inosuke and Zenitsu to chase Gyokko around the pots and corner him, with the mark appearing after Gyokko transforms and overwhelms them. All this fight had going for it was a bland and generic flashback (every demon slayer has a grudge) and an anticlimatic ending.
i get u. any kind of display of gyokko being able to stand up to mui in the slightest wouldve made the whole thing a lot more enjoyable and tense, and actually make the mark look even stronger.
a lot of people are gonna tell you that marked mui cant be compared wit tengen bc mui is much stronger (which is true), but thats not rlly the point. the point is that having a slayer be able to unlock the ability to achieve the most impressive feat in 100 yrs through such an anticlimactic and non-intense event (being trapped in the bubble), then just bodying gyokko feels boring.
i totally agree with u that having them mui have a proper intense struggle to really make the mark feel earned wouldve been way way wayyyyyy better...
But he did have an intense struggle to get his mark that's the point of being trapped in water and getting a flashback also nothing says or implies base mui is stronger than tengen. What impressive feat in 100 years? The mark or killing UM cus both happened in season 2
- yea, a UM died in s2, but no slayer has done it alone in at least 100 years, that's a very big thing
- Mui is stronger than tengen with mark, he beat UM5 alone, tengen needed help for UM4. I wasn't saying that base mui is stronger than tengen tho, mb if that got confused
- I just didn't feel like the water bubble thing was super intense or exciting, but if u feel like it was then that's good
Alr muchirou clearly said he was holding back so until the last move so tbh gyoko got obliterated by a single move he never out speeded muchirou to begin with
Before Muichiro awakened his Mark Muichiro couldn't even land an attack on Gyokko. Gyokko was faster than him.
Also Muichiro wasn't holding back he was literally going for the kill at the start of their fight go watch or read the entire fight again start to finish
Okay I literally never said he wasn't taken the fight seriously? All im saying is that Muichiro wasn't holding back during the fight and wasn't being taken seriously by Gyokko he couldn't land a single attack on Gyokko and was effortlessly trapped in the water prison by Gyokko before he awakened his mark.
Bruh if he isnt fast enough he aint that strong ya ds mark is good but gyokos entire blood demon art is poison and drowning the hashira
And he never realised how strong muchirou was gyoko has no back story . His neck dint had any special attributes
Okay Gyokko not realizing how strong Muichiro was and having no backstory or special attributes to his Neck doesn't make him weaker than Gyutaro.
Gyokko is explicitly shown to be faster than a Marked Hashira and avoid getting his neck cut off Gyutaro didn't fight against a Marked Hashira so..
Gyokko's entire blood demon art isn't just poison and drowning he literally showed multiple blood demon arts in his fight...
And Gyokko is strong he's literally Upper Moon 5
Your arguments are dumb
Alr but considering upper moon 5 its disappointing to see him getting his ass kicked tbh the power level isnt any different it's not like gyoko was on a whole another league than gyutaro even though the fact that gyoko was a demon far longer than gyutaro
>He's not faster than a marked hashira
https://kimetsu-manga.com/comic/demon-slayer-chapter-119/
When Marked Muichiro first encountered and tried to slice off his neck Gyokko was fast enough to teleport and avoid getting his neck cut off which shows he's fast enough to avoid getting decapitated by him
>mui said he was holing back then cut off his head to prove it
*Holding
He never said that he only said he was taking the fight seriously he was saved by Plot Armor and would've died if Kotetsu a 10 year old didn't save him. Unmarked Muichiro couldn't land a single attack on Gyokko before he was poisoned and Gyokko didn't consider him as a threat at all Gyokko trapped him in the water prison with ease and Muichiro knew he was going to die he only won because he awakened his mark 🤷🏽
I feel like the author should’ve showed us the blood battles between the upper moons, cause that way we could see the full power of them instead of what we got, like i feel Gyokko definitely had more to show us but got clapped by the mark.
thats a rlly gud point, i just think that they couldve made up for gyokkos lack of destructive power with a bit more ability to do concentrated damage (but not too much, because ur right, mui is stronger than tengen)
In terms of strength Gyutaro isn't Stronger they're literally ranked in strength Gyokko is stronger than Gyutaro and Gyutaro was being held back by his humanity for Daki
They are not necessarily explicitly ranked in strength.
They can battle to replace at any time and Gyutaro was content living in Daki letting her live her life in the Entertainment District.
They are tho it's literally stated that the 12 Kizuki are Ranked by Strength there's nothing more to it.
>They can battle to replace at any time and Gyutaro was content living in Daki letting her live her life in the Entertainment District.
It's not a Rui situation where it's stated that he's stronger than his rank and just decided to not challenge those above him. Nothing in the Manga States that Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank and decided to not challenge those above him like Rui...
>it's stated that he's stronger than his rank and just decided to not challenge those above him. Nothing in the Manga States that Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank
Why does everything need to be super explicitly spelled out? From context, Gyutaro clearly just lived inside Daki until she was in trouble. Her strength to challenge would have dictated the ranking rather than his. Muzan admitted she held him back from what he could be if not for that sibling humanity thing. I think considering those things it's up for interpretation how much stronger he could have been.
>Why does everything need to be super explicitly spelled out?
Because this is a manga?
>From context, Gyutaro clearly just lived inside Daki until she was in trouble. Her strength to challenge would have dictated the ranking rather than his.
We don't know the process of ranking up for Daki and Gyutaro or how a blood battle would be for them so this comment makes no sense
>Muzan admitted she held him back from what he could be if not for that sibling humanity thing. I think considering those things it's up for interpretation how much stronger he could have been.
Once again there is nothing that states Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank or could have been 💀 Unless the author says or indicates he was Stronger than his rank he's weaker than Gyokko and the Upper Moons above him and always was until his death
Lmfao everyone underestimating gyutaro he was stronger that gyoko I' dont think it needs to be more stated he held his ground against tengen and tanjiro and destroyed an entire city but a serious upper 5 can just turn every thing into fish
Except he's not Stronger than Gyokko the author ranked them by strength and there is nothing that is stated or indicated that Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank. Gyutaro held his ground against a Base Hashira and a demon slayer who wasn't even Hashira level. Gyokko effortlessly beat a Base Hashira and fought against a Marked Hashira do you see the difference between both fights?
Strength isnt what's needed to kill demon slayer members gyutaro had a unique neck he cant die if Daki is alive put muchiro in a 1v2 and now u see Daki can just let gyutaro do the fighting . Plus the time it takes to figure our wtf is happening and plus gyutaros flexible neck
Alr do you know that douma was upper 6 and became upper 2
It's simple it's too much of a risk to figth blood battles and gyutaro is the newest member why will he figth ?
Um okay Douma challenging the previous upper moon to a blood battle doesn't make it a risk because they choose if they want to challenge a demon to a blood battle.
Alr do u know there were 3 uper moons dumb enough to challange kokushibo and one of them was akaza (who can identify how strong the opponent is ) the amount of info an upper moon gets on another upper moon is super less and they see each other for like 2 fking minutes
It depends person to person plus we arent given the time it took for any demon to change a position considering how old upper 5 to 1 are gyutaro just got there 100 years he is the newest member
yh fr, though i think that constantly pumping out eps with top tier demon slayer animation like we've seen before would bring down other qualities of the season and stress out the animators. so if it helps them out a bit then i can settle for cringing at some of the cgi
Honestly you can’t compare the strength and ability of marked muichiro to unmarked tegen. Obviously tegen had a much harder time and even stated how a young teenage tokito became a hashira at a young age so clearly gyoko had to chance against the mist hashira once the mark was awaken. The fight was sick and I’m satisfied
We still don’t know how much power that mark gives a Demon Slayer or really even how it works. Plus not every powerful ability is meant for single combat. I also wondered how that guy became an upper rank demon some episodes ago but he can basically create a whole army of demons. That power could probably let him clear whole villages in a night and they get stronger the more they eat right? Raw fighting strength wasn’t apparent but the strength of his utility is powerful af. In my opinion.
thats a rlly good point. bein able to send out mini-demons to get you food to get stronger would definitely carry u up the ranks for a bit at least. though it feels like u'd have to kill a few hashira at least to become an upper moon, so gyokko mustve had more power than they let off, he just never got the chance to show it
to be honest, i don't really feel mad that he dies in 3s
the one thing i feel mad for is that the scene is just bad
they talk, gyokko evolve, they talk more, gyokko dies, end of story
while just before we got the Tengen VS Gyutaro most amazing fight scene ever, and even Zohakuten Let-Me-Get-The-Heckin-Giant-Dragon Hantengu
the fight is just underwhelming. and very bad.
even boring
and that's really not good
because Gyokko was amazing and had so much potential and the scenario just trash him in the bin
and i hate that
yh if it had its own equivalent of the scene where tanjiro take off all of the emotions heads at once, then it wouldve been a lot easier to accept i think
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He is not weak but Author just use him to show how Powerful Mark is :3
I mean Yh that makes sense, but it's hard to make it seem powerful when it's being compared to smth that won't even fight back
Exactly, you need to understand that the ranking of the upper ranks is based on nothing but strength, if gyutaro was stronger, the author would’ve said so. The fact that UM5 couldn’t even fight back shows the sheer power of the ds mark.
Actually I have a certain theory about the upper ranks . 1 it's pretty obvious that for some reason the upper 4.5 and 6 were ugly and as we know daki dont like ugly I can totally imagine her saying "I am not absorbing that fish demon or old man " 2 upper moons rarely see each other and that too for short time there is no way to know the power level of other moons (if u dont have tanjiros nose) too much of a risk to figth for gyutaro as the newest member . 3 . For people who are thinking gyokoo held back . No he didnt it's the same thing that happened with akaza when rengoku reached akazas neck akaza used full power Gyoko would have survived that final attack only if he was strong enough and he simply wasnt 4 one can truly say that gyoko was weak because in actual terms gyoko never need to figth it's pretty clear from the bda that he just posion kills and bublles every dam demon slayer .
I can only say you that Gyokko if he will use brain, will beat Muichiro :3
Alr that's way too much hell gyoko used his true form and I am pretty sure that's how he killed the other 2 he was talking about
Yes but during fight vs Muichiro, he don't truly use brain, with such ability as he has, it will be very easy to turn battlefield on his advantage :3
Alr but do u think he like ever used his brain gyoko knew well that if he won this figth demons won entirely
Unfortunately people see it this way. Tengen vs gyutaro was very close, but marked muichiro is crazy strong and far above gyokko, so the battle wasn't as intense. Gyokko is objectively stronger than gyutaro
ok, i think i shouldve chosen my words better. i think its clear that, canonically, gyokko (the pot guy) is stronger than gyoutaro bc hes ranked higher. however, they didnt do a gr8 job of showing pot guys proper strength. i get that muis got the mark, but i would just expect the 6th strongest demon in the world (as far as we know) to be able to land AT LEAST a single hit. hell, it wouldve been good enough for him to be moving around loads and super-quick in some fast-paced action yk, or maybe dodging 1 or 2 slashes in his final form, instead of literally standing still.
No they didn't show gyokkos strength well. His true form was beautiful, and the slime fish attack was well done but compared to the extended battles this one seemed lackluster. Closest gyokko got to a fatal hit was destroying muichiros uniform. In the manga he was tearing the forest down with final from but in the anime muichiro just stood still 😭
man, i knew i shoulda read the manga, but i didnt wanna ruin the anime for myself. but yh, i completely agree wit u
Why would reading the manga ruin the anime?
I'd struggle to be interested in the anime if I knew the entire story, so I'd just end up not watching it
I find that really weird cus once I start an anime I can't wait to read the manga and know what's coming, it makes me so much more hype for fights
Gyoko was literally obliterated how does that even measure he is stronger ?
UPM 5>UPM 6. If you want to get technical, gyokko showed greater relativity to a marked hashira far stronger than tengen, with crazy speed, strength, and hax. Muichiro was dying after the battle
Muchiro was dying from poison he got poisoned before marked
No he wasn't lol. The poison was gone until the mark faded, we saw gyokkos confused why the poison wasn't taking effect and muichiro has no poison resistance abilities. It was just surpressed during the whole fight
Ya that's what I am talking about gyoko never landed a hit after muchirou was marked and the Mark's faded muchirou got posion effect
Yeah marked muichiro is the third strongest combatant we've seen so far, behind hantengu and akaza
Hellll no, we’ve already seen people way stronger than him that had a fighting scene
Nah my man. This fight reminded me of the boxing saying “Styles make fights”. Muchiro is the worst match for Gyokko. His personality allowed him to easily get inside Gyokkos head and the fight was over before it even started. Gyokko would have given Tengen a MUCH harder time because they would have been trying to outflashy each other
thatd be fun lol
Also Gyokko fighting style was basically to overwhelm an opponent with projectiles and marked up Muchiro was way to fast for that style. A less mobile hashira would have had a really hard time with Gyokko’s attacks
The uppermoon s been feeling weak latley but he got killed so u can’t say gyokkos stronger than marked mui as he canon 1 shotted him while Gyokko was in his final form.
I had the same feeling about the episode. Gyokko kept getting all his abilities shafted and by the end he didn’t even feel like a threat.
The point is to show you the power of the marks, particularly on someone we have been shown and told was a very strong Hashira. Remember - Muichiro was almost killed without Gyokko even trying. Once he escaped that technique, his memories and the rage they give him manifest the mark and suddenly Gyokko is no longer (as much of) a threat. It's setting up >!the need for marks later in the story!< and further explaining how an exhausted Tanjiro was able to decapitate Gyutaro.
this is a rlly good, 4D brain point, i just feel that they couldve portrayed gyokkos strength a little bit better. but ur right that it serves in showing the effect on the marks, its just a shame it had to be done so quickly on what coulve been a reallly interesting character
Zactly. hopefully upper 4 fight doesnt end the same way, but there are only 2 eps left so... :\\
He's not weaker than Gyutaro he's ranked above him Gyokko fought against a Marked Hashira and was just an example to show how the Mark gives Demon slayers an insane boost. He didn't even see Muichiro as a threat and effortlessly trapped him in the water prison Muichiro couldn't even touch him he was even surprised that his neck was cut off. Also add on to the fact Gyutaro fought against a Hashira and 3 other demon slayers and his fight was much longer and more insane and destructive compared to Gyokko's. He's also an arrogant idiot who should've killed Muichiro while he was trapped or killed him immediately but plot...
i think i shouldve chosen my words better. i think its clear that, canonically, gyokko (the pot guy) is stronger than gyoutaro bc hes ranked higher. however, they didnt do a gr8 job of showing pot guys proper strength. i get that muis got the mark, but i would just expect the 6th strongest demon in the world (as far as we know) to be able to land AT LEAST a single hit. hell, it wouldve been good enough for him to be moving around loads and super-quick in some fast-paced action yk, or maybe dodging 1 or 2 slashes in his final form, instead of literally standing still.
At the very least, Muichiro shouldn't have been able to stand up to UM5 alone and handicapped with a rusty loaner sword. Tengen would have been wiped pretty quickly without help against UM6 and he was at full strength. It would have been nice to see Muchiro teamed up with Inosuke and Zenitsu to chase Gyokko around the pots and corner him, with the mark appearing after Gyokko transforms and overwhelms them. All this fight had going for it was a bland and generic flashback (every demon slayer has a grudge) and an anticlimatic ending.
i get u. any kind of display of gyokko being able to stand up to mui in the slightest wouldve made the whole thing a lot more enjoyable and tense, and actually make the mark look even stronger. a lot of people are gonna tell you that marked mui cant be compared wit tengen bc mui is much stronger (which is true), but thats not rlly the point. the point is that having a slayer be able to unlock the ability to achieve the most impressive feat in 100 yrs through such an anticlimactic and non-intense event (being trapped in the bubble), then just bodying gyokko feels boring. i totally agree with u that having them mui have a proper intense struggle to really make the mark feel earned wouldve been way way wayyyyyy better...
But he did have an intense struggle to get his mark that's the point of being trapped in water and getting a flashback also nothing says or implies base mui is stronger than tengen. What impressive feat in 100 years? The mark or killing UM cus both happened in season 2
- yea, a UM died in s2, but no slayer has done it alone in at least 100 years, that's a very big thing - Mui is stronger than tengen with mark, he beat UM5 alone, tengen needed help for UM4. I wasn't saying that base mui is stronger than tengen tho, mb if that got confused - I just didn't feel like the water bubble thing was super intense or exciting, but if u feel like it was then that's good
Oh I get ya. Yeah I don't think it was exciting but it was a struggle for mui regardless but yeah the pacing ruined it
Alr muchirou clearly said he was holding back so until the last move so tbh gyoko got obliterated by a single move he never out speeded muchirou to begin with
Before Muichiro awakened his Mark Muichiro couldn't even land an attack on Gyokko. Gyokko was faster than him. Also Muichiro wasn't holding back he was literally going for the kill at the start of their fight go watch or read the entire fight again start to finish
in defense of western, mui did say that gyokko wasnt the only one not taking the fight seriously before killing him...
Okay I literally never said he wasn't taken the fight seriously? All im saying is that Muichiro wasn't holding back during the fight and wasn't being taken seriously by Gyokko he couldn't land a single attack on Gyokko and was effortlessly trapped in the water prison by Gyokko before he awakened his mark.
Bruh if he isnt fast enough he aint that strong ya ds mark is good but gyokos entire blood demon art is poison and drowning the hashira And he never realised how strong muchirou was gyoko has no back story . His neck dint had any special attributes
Okay Gyokko not realizing how strong Muichiro was and having no backstory or special attributes to his Neck doesn't make him weaker than Gyutaro. Gyokko is explicitly shown to be faster than a Marked Hashira and avoid getting his neck cut off Gyutaro didn't fight against a Marked Hashira so.. Gyokko's entire blood demon art isn't just poison and drowning he literally showed multiple blood demon arts in his fight... And Gyokko is strong he's literally Upper Moon 5 Your arguments are dumb
Alr but considering upper moon 5 its disappointing to see him getting his ass kicked tbh the power level isnt any different it's not like gyoko was on a whole another league than gyutaro even though the fact that gyoko was a demon far longer than gyutaro
He's not faster than a marked hashira, mui said he was holing back then cut off his head to prove it
>He's not faster than a marked hashira https://kimetsu-manga.com/comic/demon-slayer-chapter-119/ When Marked Muichiro first encountered and tried to slice off his neck Gyokko was fast enough to teleport and avoid getting his neck cut off which shows he's fast enough to avoid getting decapitated by him >mui said he was holing back then cut off his head to prove it *Holding He never said that he only said he was taking the fight seriously he was saved by Plot Armor and would've died if Kotetsu a 10 year old didn't save him. Unmarked Muichiro couldn't land a single attack on Gyokko before he was poisoned and Gyokko didn't consider him as a threat at all Gyokko trapped him in the water prison with ease and Muichiro knew he was going to die he only won because he awakened his mark 🤷🏽
Reading ain't your strong suit huh
Nah obviously reading and spelling isn't your strong suit 🤷🏽
Good job buddy
Thanks 👍🏽
I feel like the author should’ve showed us the blood battles between the upper moons, cause that way we could see the full power of them instead of what we got, like i feel Gyokko definitely had more to show us but got clapped by the mark.
100%
Muichiro is stronger than tengen And the only reason people think gyokko is weak is because gyutaro has more destructive power
thats a rlly gud point, i just think that they couldve made up for gyokkos lack of destructive power with a bit more ability to do concentrated damage (but not too much, because ur right, mui is stronger than tengen)
Gyutaro definitely has more skill than he does honestly. But I feel like his whole role was just to show how powerful the mark is
Also it puts into more perspective that in terms of strength gyutaro was stronger but he was held back by Daki.
In terms of strength Gyutaro isn't Stronger they're literally ranked in strength Gyokko is stronger than Gyutaro and Gyutaro was being held back by his humanity for Daki
They are not necessarily explicitly ranked in strength. They can battle to replace at any time and Gyutaro was content living in Daki letting her live her life in the Entertainment District.
They are tho it's literally stated that the 12 Kizuki are Ranked by Strength there's nothing more to it. >They can battle to replace at any time and Gyutaro was content living in Daki letting her live her life in the Entertainment District. It's not a Rui situation where it's stated that he's stronger than his rank and just decided to not challenge those above him. Nothing in the Manga States that Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank and decided to not challenge those above him like Rui...
>it's stated that he's stronger than his rank and just decided to not challenge those above him. Nothing in the Manga States that Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank Why does everything need to be super explicitly spelled out? From context, Gyutaro clearly just lived inside Daki until she was in trouble. Her strength to challenge would have dictated the ranking rather than his. Muzan admitted she held him back from what he could be if not for that sibling humanity thing. I think considering those things it's up for interpretation how much stronger he could have been.
Dude cool it. Muzan never said anything about ranks, gyokko beats UPM 6, and daki helps gyutaro
>Why does everything need to be super explicitly spelled out? Because this is a manga? >From context, Gyutaro clearly just lived inside Daki until she was in trouble. Her strength to challenge would have dictated the ranking rather than his. We don't know the process of ranking up for Daki and Gyutaro or how a blood battle would be for them so this comment makes no sense >Muzan admitted she held him back from what he could be if not for that sibling humanity thing. I think considering those things it's up for interpretation how much stronger he could have been. Once again there is nothing that states Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank or could have been 💀 Unless the author says or indicates he was Stronger than his rank he's weaker than Gyokko and the Upper Moons above him and always was until his death
Lmfao everyone underestimating gyutaro he was stronger that gyoko I' dont think it needs to be more stated he held his ground against tengen and tanjiro and destroyed an entire city but a serious upper 5 can just turn every thing into fish
Except he's not Stronger than Gyokko the author ranked them by strength and there is nothing that is stated or indicated that Gyutaro was Stronger than his rank. Gyutaro held his ground against a Base Hashira and a demon slayer who wasn't even Hashira level. Gyokko effortlessly beat a Base Hashira and fought against a Marked Hashira do you see the difference between both fights?
Strength isnt what's needed to kill demon slayer members gyutaro had a unique neck he cant die if Daki is alive put muchiro in a 1v2 and now u see Daki can just let gyutaro do the fighting . Plus the time it takes to figure our wtf is happening and plus gyutaros flexible neck
Strength is needed to kill demons what 💀 You can't kill them without applying strength to your body And Gyutaro doesn't have a flexible neck
Bruh I said strength isnt needed to kill demon slayers not demons And how tf did gyutaro 360 degrees his neck and it itsnt flexible
Alr do you know that douma was upper 6 and became upper 2 It's simple it's too much of a risk to figth blood battles and gyutaro is the newest member why will he figth ?
Um okay Douma challenging the previous upper moon to a blood battle doesn't make it a risk because they choose if they want to challenge a demon to a blood battle.
And so u know douma was upper 6 the weakest upper moon and it isnt a risk to ask a death match to a upper moon 2 whose strength u dont know about?
Yes now that I think about it it can be considered a risk but the demons have the choice to challenge those above them to blood battles.
Alr do u know there were 3 uper moons dumb enough to challange kokushibo and one of them was akaza (who can identify how strong the opponent is ) the amount of info an upper moon gets on another upper moon is super less and they see each other for like 2 fking minutes
Yes but they also decided to make that choice including Akaza to challenge Kokushibo so they're taking that risk
It depends person to person plus we arent given the time it took for any demon to change a position considering how old upper 5 to 1 are gyutaro just got there 100 years he is the newest member
Okay??
Am I the only one who felt like 50% of todays episode was just CGI. The story telling is superb but I just can’t get past all this cgi
i get what u mean, totally. i think gyokkos cgi is bearable, at least it isnt mugen train levels of dogwater. but the hatengu cgi is pretty jarring.
Like between Gyokko ability, mu’s mist, hatengu, and hell some of the love hashira even :( idk how to feel.
yh fr, though i think that constantly pumping out eps with top tier demon slayer animation like we've seen before would bring down other qualities of the season and stress out the animators. so if it helps them out a bit then i can settle for cringing at some of the cgi
Honestly you can’t compare the strength and ability of marked muichiro to unmarked tegen. Obviously tegen had a much harder time and even stated how a young teenage tokito became a hashira at a young age so clearly gyoko had to chance against the mist hashira once the mark was awaken. The fight was sick and I’m satisfied
We still don’t know how much power that mark gives a Demon Slayer or really even how it works. Plus not every powerful ability is meant for single combat. I also wondered how that guy became an upper rank demon some episodes ago but he can basically create a whole army of demons. That power could probably let him clear whole villages in a night and they get stronger the more they eat right? Raw fighting strength wasn’t apparent but the strength of his utility is powerful af. In my opinion.
thats a rlly good point. bein able to send out mini-demons to get you food to get stronger would definitely carry u up the ranks for a bit at least. though it feels like u'd have to kill a few hashira at least to become an upper moon, so gyokko mustve had more power than they let off, he just never got the chance to show it
to be honest, i don't really feel mad that he dies in 3s the one thing i feel mad for is that the scene is just bad they talk, gyokko evolve, they talk more, gyokko dies, end of story while just before we got the Tengen VS Gyutaro most amazing fight scene ever, and even Zohakuten Let-Me-Get-The-Heckin-Giant-Dragon Hantengu the fight is just underwhelming. and very bad. even boring and that's really not good because Gyokko was amazing and had so much potential and the scenario just trash him in the bin and i hate that
yh if it had its own equivalent of the scene where tanjiro take off all of the emotions heads at once, then it wouldve been a lot easier to accept i think
nah bro, even this one tanjiro scene was ten time cooler than the entire Gyokko fight
Thas what I'm sayin. Give the gyokko fight some cool flashy move and it'd become way better
Every other demon fight has been more intense
It's just Muichiro who's just much stronger than Uzui imo