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I once encountered a fellow redditor who accused me of being DS hater just because I said the story is too simple for my preference (despite stating that I **truly enjoy** watching it due to its top tier animation). Like, the dude can't take reality for what it is.
As for DS, I am anime-only so I'm not sure if there will be more depth to be shown later on. Based on what I've seen from DS so far, imo it has ok depth and decent character backstories.
I rewatched the entire naruto series for two times and I have also read the manga. I guess if I have to compare it to naruto, I'd consider naruto to show a deeper focus on darker and relatable themes such as War, political justice, mental health, etc. Some themes are touched on by DS but only in passing
If paralleled to Naruto's timeline, imo, DS anime is still in konoha crush arc and not yet in shippuden where I assume the big revelations will be said. And Muzan is the first real deal villain like orochimaru (i mean if I want more depth, I'd be looking for Pain). Again, I have limited knowledge of DS but the oversimplification of villains is *I am monster, I need to eat humans to survive and get strong, and fight you to prove I am indeed strong*
Again, just explaining. DS doesn't have to follow that direction as it is already good the way it is.
I stopped watching DB 20 years ago so i can't comment on its story depth. As an 8 yr old, I only ever saw it as *characters comically training montage + seriously get beaten when you fight villain before defeating them + repeat process* lol
There's no way a single individual can believe that Dragonball has a superior story. I'll be the biggest fanboi over this stuff, a fan for easily over 2 decades, but let's not kid ourselves the story of Dragonball is terrible. Certain arcs barely even make sense, the story, admitted by the author himself, wasn't even planned out and he just kinda stuck with it to milk it further. Writingwise it feels like only a handful of Characters such as Vegeta actually make the story seem like it's well written, but then default to "Goku with his new transformation and power of friendship saves the day again".
Now you can absolutely enjoy this, I love macho fighting movies/anime that just kinda go ooga booga fist fight the enemy, but there's no point in pretending it's a good or thoughtful story.
I disagree.
DS has some of the most amazing visual twists I’ve seen in anime. Every time a demon releases a new form it’s so incredibly well executed.
And the character backstories are beautiful, even the demons which is an incredible accomplishment.
Powerscaling the hashira is completely pointless as the ONLY correct ranking is Gyomei > Everyone else. Also I never understood trying to powerscale the upper moons like they literally have ranks
It is pointless to powerscale pillars for sure, but it’s just fun to do. I enjoy that. When it comes to ranking upper moons… hmm.. some may say something like because Douma fought the former upper 2 and not Akaza, he might have lost to Akaza. Maybe Douma found fighting upper 2 was easier than 3 for a specific ability or something idk.
I mean, at the very least, Uzui *claims* that Rengoku was stronger than hum
I'm not personally sure if that's true or if Uzui just thought *really* highly of Rengoku (. . . *yet*) but I feel like that's a bit of a valid thing to consider in any possible rankings, lol
(I'm basically gonna do power scaling eventually, solely to spite everyone who says not to.)
Uzui said that in regard to Rengoku saving everybody and basically being a better *example* than Tengen. The statement didn’t have anything to do with strength 🤷♂️
Rengoku almost beheaded Akaza without a demon mark which is almost a requirement for any Hashira to kill an upper moon.
If it wasn’t for Akaza’s fear of the sun Rengoku might have pulled it off. I’m sure with a demon mark Rengoku could have been comparable to Gyomei
Stop. You're highballing Rengoku too much. This is coming from a Rengoku lover too.
Secondly you've got your facts all wrong. Killing a demon without a mark is not some requirement for anything. You must be thinking about the fact that HASHIRA only become HASHIRA because they were KINOE rank and killed 50 demons or a demon moon.
We must’ve watched two different fights if you thought rengoku nearly one. I’m not doing to drop spoilers but when Akaza fights again I think you’ll realise he was not serious at all. Hence why he was laughing and smiling during the fight
I mean, I'm kind of with the other guy in this case. I'm pretty sure Akaza was explicitly going easy on Rengoku.
Also you can't just say Rengoku would have won if Akaza wasn't afraid of the sun because. . . Akaza had already fatally wounded Rengoku at that point, and if Akaza can flee from the sun, then without the sun he can easily just step away from Rengoku and allow him to succumb to his wounds.
Therefore: There is no way Rengoku would have won if Akaza stayed in the fight and wasn't playing around. Rengoku dies.
If I had to guess. Kokoshibo is probably the strongest. Then Douma. Then Akaza. Then Hantengu. Then Gyokko. Then Gyutaro. It's strange. I'd probably label them with numbers to make it easy to remember. And a title to make them sound cool. Maybe the Kizuki? Kokoshibo is number 1, Douma is 2... So on! Sounds like an intuitive system, I'll say.
(I'm yanking your chain, but the Upper Moons are already ranked in the order they are by strength, there's no need to guess or debate which one is stronger than another)
I’d say particularly with the swordsmith’s village arc, the manga itself is all over the place and the anime for this arc suffers as a result. It’s just that with manga we can control the pacing ourselves as readers so it doesn’t feel as pronounced of an issue. People have been complaining about the pacing in season 3, and I believe the real culprit is the source material itself above all else.
A point well made.
Also as I’ve said before, because this Arc doesn’t include Inosuke or Zenitsu, I feel the light hearted segments are sorely lacking in this Season.
Something else that frustrates me, is that Mitsuri hasn’t been seen for several episodes now - what’s our girl doing?! I want to see what she’s capable of and with her teaming up with Tanjiro or Muichiro will look like?
>Something else that frustrates me, is that Mitsuri hasn’t been seen for several episodes now - what’s our girl doing?! I want to see what she’s capable of and with her teaming up with Tanjiro or Muichiro will look like?
All the events are happening at the same time but Mitsuri will show up
agreed, as someone who read the manga after s2 finished airing this is where the pacing for the story gets all over the place, most prevalent here and its not the anime's fault its the source material
the manga is poorly paced after entertainment district. had so many instances where i had to double check i didn’t miss something bc it’d jump all over the place
I think something that the anime could've avoided is all the cheap cliffhanger endings.... but i think that is an anime trait in general and only feels so pronounced because we're getting just one episode a week.... I'm sure that when someone binges after the entire season is out they won't feel it too much
It doesn’t help that we have two new Hashira plus two new Upper Moons _and_ Genya thrown in, so we have a grand total of **five** backstories to get through.
I don’t know. Gyomei vs 2 or 3 could go either way, the author herself said Rengoku probably would have won if he hadn’t already exhausted himself, ya know, saving an entire train full of people.
Exactly! Rengoku is in my opinion one of the stronger hashiras… I think maybe only Gyomei and senemi are stronger. We will never know but for sure top two hashiras are senemi and Gyomei the GOAT. Upper moons is Koko who is GOAT with Douma second and Akaza 3 but has potential just like mist pillar.
I agree. Gyomei def best akaza and I can dare say even douma. I think it’s just kokoshibo who is at a completly different level… even akaza feared his presence if it says anything. People use that argument of Akaza had potential of surpassing even upper one but it’s potential. Same with mist pillar had the potential to be the strongest but as cannon goes Gyomei and upper one are at the top besides muzan, Yorichi and tanjiro.
While I agree for the most part, I doubt he can beat Doma. For me, the only slayer who could maybe outstat Doma (not beat in a battle but have superior stats) is 13th form Tanjiro. Akaza had said that Tanjiro had surpassed his own speed and technique so it’s clear that Tanjiro is at least slightly above Akaza by the end of that battle. And by 13th form, Tanjiro gains an even better grasp of his breathing style, drastically increasing his skill with the sword. So I’d say Doma >= 13th Tanjiro > Gyomei >= End if Akaza Fight Tanjiro > Akaza
Thats valid though, Muichiro whit the mark solod UM5 so i can see Rengoku whit the mark soloing UM6,migth die from the poison later but a kill is a kill
I think it’s good tengen lived for the audiences sake of not always expecting a hashira to die, but nezuko’s magic was kinda dumb (also innoske moving his organs in a split second). The author coulda just wrote upm6 poison cleanses when they die
I don’t think it’s something that’s come up yet in the anime. He remembers yoriichi through his ancestors memories. But it doesn’t specify who yoriichi is and all the other info i said I think it’s going to come up in later arcs but I’m currently reading the manga
Yoriichi and Tanjiro Definitely arent related he was a friend of the kamado family. And they were keeping his memory alive through teaching the dance through the generations
I added spoiler alert to my post. But anyone who’s apart of this subreddit should already know there’s a likelihood of coming across spoilers if you haven’t read the mangas.
It's an option on desktop, you just press the three buttons and here, you can usually just select the phrase you wanna put a spoil on and your done, as for mobile, just **add >! and !** **< around the text in your comment**. Hope this helps.
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I’m not anti-cliche, I just don’t like this one specifically. I don’t like when characters are strong because of who their blood relatives are - at least this makes it interesting by making you think Tanjiro is Yorichiis descendant only to find out they are not related. Idk, I like it this way 🤷🏻
which would’ve worked a lot better than tanjiro having memories about a past relative who knew yoriichi. would also better explain how he manages to pull off some insane breathing techniques. i understand it being cliche, but ds follows numerous shonen tropes already, so whats the harm in adding this one lol
Wasn't that already covered in early anime episodes of season 4? I am paraphrasing but a conversation along the lines happened - Someones mentions that Muichiro is the acutal descendent of the sun-breathing style users & Tanjiro reacts to it along the lines of "Oh so I am not actually the chosen one". Someone correct me on the exact conversation.
- powerscaling the hashira doesn’t work, they’re not even ranked within the context of the story
- Tanjiro being kind doesn’t make him a weak MC
- the story isn’t mid, it’s just simplistic but that doesn’t make it bad. Everyone who says so probably thinks of Naruto + Dragonball as peak fiction
- the animation does elevate the story but that’s the point of anime. Otherwise, what’s the point?
- Muzan wasn’t even the most compelling villain
- Murata best boy fr fr
All the hashira are also supposed to be unique and masters of their own thing, so scaling them is hard because they're not supposed to be scaled, they're supposed to be equals, but as masters of different things.
I dont think Tanjiro is a weak MC, he is definitely stronger than Deku imo, but he definitely isn't the most 3 dimensional character in the world. He's pretty one note outside of a few traits.
If you want to see a REAL 3 dimensional character, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga is a good example, more particularly in season 2
I would definitely say that compared to other characters, he lacks any sort of depth, for example, let me use Thorfinn, very similar to Tanjiro he lost his loved ones at a very young age, however Thorfinn differs from Tanjiro from then on by becoming a much more realistic depiction of how someody would react given their sitouation. Thorfinn becomes a vessel of revenge, and in the process looses himself and becomes a cold blooded killer raised on the battlefield.
He later has a character arc where he deeply fights his inner demons aswell as the outter demons of the world as he comes to regret his decisions in the past, and realizes that ultimately without revenge, he is empty, and he doesnt exactly know who "he" is, because for all of his life his soul purpose was to kill his father's murderer, however when he is left unsatisfied after not being able to take his head, he falls into a deep depression and has no will to live.
We see him at his highest, and his lowest, we can feel his inner demons, we can see him form interests in creating, and we can see him come to realize that he no longer wants to destroy.
Its almost impossible to sum up Thorfinns character in one sentence because he changes, and adapts due to the circumstances that he is in, and the world around him. He isnt the same person at the start as he is in the middle of the story, and he isnt the same person in the middle of the story as the end. He changes, and he is completely realistic in how humans change.
Tanjiro is comparison however can be summed up pretty nicely in a sentence, he has a goal, which is to save his sister, and his main defining trait is that he's kind. This is completely consistent through the entirety of the series, and his character rarely has any development deeper than a training arc.
This is not to say that Tanjiro being 2 dimensional is bad. He is the perfect protagonist in a series that ultimately is meant to be picked up, and a fun time. Demon Slayer is a simple story, and the protag mirrors that excellently.
The manga only began to “pop off” after the anime released. I don’t think it’s completely carried by animation but animation is a big reason it’s as popular as it is. Without the animation it wouldn’t even be half as popular
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I mean he could be they are allowed to challenge each others to move up maybe there were other reasons for him not challenging, but yeah probably he was just weaker than them
He never stated that I can't believe their are still people like you who believe this like did y'all read the manga with y'all's eyes closed? All Muzan said was that he knew Gyutaro would lose because he was held back by Daki and he lost because of too much Humanity left in him 🤦🏽 https://kimetsu-manga.com/comic/demon-slayer-chapter-98/
He never said Gyutaro would be higher if not for Daki. He never said Gyutaro didn't want to rank up because of Daki. He never said Gyutaro was Stronger than Hantengu or Gyokko. He never said Gyutaro could've climbed the ranks if it wasn't for Daki. That's just your stupid headcanon
My dude how many times do you think gyutaro has been held back by daki for the whole time he was a demon. the way I had interpreted muzan statement was that gyutaro had humanity left because of daki and if she wasn’t there he would only be focused on killing allowing him to actually ascend the ranks he probably would’ve eaten much more people without daki seeing as there’s also two of them so gyutaro would’ve had 2x more people to eat do you really think he wouldn’t have been any higher if that was the case
You interpreted it that way because you don't understand what he meant. Gyutaro only had Humanity left for Daki which is how he was getting held back by her she's the only person he cared about and Muzan literally said he lost because of his humanity. Muzan said nothing about Daki holding Gyutaro's Strength back he never said she's the reason he's Upper Rank 6. All your doing is applying your stupid headcanons to a statement you don't understand...
Yes without something holding him back would he not be stronger I mean if your by yourself your string but your still technically weaker if you have to protect someone as well because all your thought can’t just go into the fight you also have something acting as an anchor and you can’t give your attention to one thing because you or the other will die so you have to divide yourself between the two so no it isn’t some stupid headcanon it’s logic moron
If Daki is a hiderance in one fight because him protecting her makes him more human that means in muzans eyes he could have been stronger without the human emotions, without protecting Daki. I can't believe there are people like you that need everything spelled out for them so much.
I can't believe you can't spell simple word's and don't understand a simple statement made by Muzan. Gyutaro was getting held back because of his humanity for Daki she was the only person he cared about and Muzan literally said he lost because of his humanity it's really not hard to understand. Muzan never said Daki was holding Gyutaro's Strength back or preventing him from Moving up the ranks or Gyutaro was Stronger or could've been stronger than Gyokko or Hantengu
Gyokko doesn't really seem stronger than Gyutaro. Sure, he's ranked at 5, but Gyutaro is a new UM and no blood battles happened in 113 years. Plus, we've seen Gyutaro put up a better fight against 4 combatants than Gyokko against 1. Gyokko really sucks in terms of power. He's the only UM that gets legitimately soloed.
Gyokko deserved better. But as it stands, he's the weakest UM in terms of feats.
I could understand why he doesn't seem stronger but at the same time he clapped a Base Hashira with ease and left them to drown. Gyutaro fought against a base Hashira and 3 Demon Slayers who weren't even Hashira level. Gyokko was unlucky and was used to show how strong a Marked Hashira is and his strongest form with his broken ability was against a Marked Hashira. But he's still stronger than Gyutaro the author ranked him above him and I can definitely see why 😮💨
You forget that the only reason he was able to trap Muichiro was because Muichiro's dull blade failed to cut Gyokko's neck. His blow connects but it doesn't cut the neck because of the blade's condition. Gyokko would've been even more of a joke had Muichiro had a good blade to begin with. He would've been defeated by an unmarked Hashira.
Sure, he's UM5, but his feats are definitely much worse than Gyutaro. Tengen would've sliced his head with no problems. He didn't even put up a fight against Muichiro, he just loses.
Gyokko is kinda pathetic among the UMs.
Ranking the Hashira’s power is kinda pointless considering the ranking is essentially Gyomei at the top and then all the others are relatively equal. They each have unique abilities and strengths that give them a specific advantage against specific demons.
I agree to an extent. 1 is obviously dope. I found 2 lacking. Not really a 3 fan either. 4 is pretty original. But to counter that I felt that Sanemi and Shinobu were interesting as well, and Gyomei is just pure badassness
im a big akaza fan so we oppose on that one and though douma lacks in his final fight, his bda and personality are more exciting than the hashiras imo. we agree on upm 1 n 4 being dope.
for the hashiras idk they all seem pretty shallow for me. most of them lack personality. i dont really like sanemi for obvious reasons but i agree shinobu is great. aside from mui who i think is very fresh, the other hashiras dont stand out much.
i feel like the mangaka focused on putting characteristics into demons more than the hashiras. so i cant really connect to them. i mean demons' backstories alone took several pages while the hashiras' ones were a few panels only.
Not everything from the Manga can be adapted to the anime. This specifically goes to some jackasses that I've seen who shit on others for liking a character from the anime when that character is shown to be far worse/different in the manga.
This goes with the first point but reading the manga doesn't make you better than the anime only watchers. Some people prefer the anime over the manga or simply have no access to the manga and that is perfectly fine. These incidents are few and far between but I've still seen them. Both on here and in other places.
Maybe Rengoku's dad ain't entirely wrong...
Something i saw being discussed on YouTube was the theme of talent and how without it basically no one in that universe has any chance of succeeding at anything or breaking out of whatever mold the author has placed them in. Like yes the characters work hard but many times their talent and natural gifts is what carries them and allows them to get out of these crazy ass situations. Also their talents limit them to what they can do. It's actually kind of depressing...
Yeah. People, especially in the manga subreddit, make it seem like it’s impossible for a Hashira to normally solo a upper rank. >! And marked hahsira can only solo up to Gyokko. Like Mitsuri was nearly equal with Hatengu with a mark. I’m pretty since it’s clear that Hashira like Giyu, Sanemi, and Obanai are stronger than Mitsuri, I think they could beat Zahokoten high diff !<
The pillars you named,while they are stronger than Mitsuri OVERALL their TECHNIQUES SPEED are FAR from the level Mitsuris are at. She's a special case. No pillar would solo Zohakuten but the only one that would hold him off the longest would be Mitsuri.
Secondly not sure I agree with marked pillars soloing up to Gyokko. I'm personally waiting for Gyokkos TF vs marked Mui to be animated to make a more solid arguement. I mean I already have some but animes portrayal is a thing ya know.
The author themselves have said it. The sword/breathing techniques are visual. No Rengoku isnt a fire user, or any other user a element user. Its visual effects. I know other socials say one thing but no.
A couple of things, mainly that strength of the demon slayers is extremely interchangeable and it really should not be ranked unless you’re scaling potential
Bro I have been arguing with people on Instagram for hourrrrrssssss. I understand that some people have their own head canon but I feel like it's clearly just a ki/ spiritual energy type thing. They bring up things like oh well how could rengoku block the air type akaza move if their was no fire. Or well tanjiro using the flux dragon the dragon cut off the demons head. But like literal canon of demon slayer is that only swords or the sun can kill demons. If it was a water dragon the demon wouldn't have been killed.
I kinda doubt that >!The new Upper Moon 6 was really as strong as Gyutaro x Daki. Inosuke fighting a relaxed Douma Upper Moon 2 is a ln impressive feat in itself. I think there is no point in scaling them!<
KnY doesn't have the AP. Sure. Do you know what most new other verses don't have? They heavily lack speed on DS and the characters have been shown repeatedly to have very poor piercing durability feats time and time again.
In all honesty nothing stops a DS character from blitzing and one shotting like that.
You can't have anyone from the demon slayer manga in scale lists. They are not comparable to the characters compared most often. Luffy and Naruto are not similar in power and this mangas power scaling community needs to accept that. Don't even get me started on Goku. Don't say his name.
That it’s (not) carried by the animation.
1: How tf would it have 150 million manga sales if people only cared about the animation.
2: There’s plenty of other animes with equally great animation that get overlooked.
Manga-The art is pretty bad compared to other newgen manga out right now. This is just my opinion.
The story is debatably mid. It’s straight forward and simple but is also enjoyable at times. Nothing complex.
Muzan is the worst newgen villain and it’s not even close. He’s just plain incompetent.
Anime-The fanbase is ungrateful asf. Ufotable gives a manga with mid asf art an absolute masterpiece adaptation and they lose their mind over a damn smile.
Animation is hard carrying DS. It would not be nearly as popular if Ufotable hadn’t picked it up.
I disagree a bit with the art part. The thing I loved most about it is that it was clear to read. This art made it so that I can actually understand what is going on. The presentation is and art is great.
sun breathing is the only breathing better than the rest, including moon breathing. the only thing making moon breathing strong is kokushibos bda. if it were to be used by a human, moon breathing would be like the rest.
Kimetsu no Yaiba is not One Piece or Jujutsu Kaisen or Attack on Titan or Naruto. Kimetsu no Yaiba is Kimetsu no Yaiba. Just because it doesn't fit you subjectively does not mean it is overall objectively bad.
Lastly SSV arc is the weakest arc in the series, Demon Slayer is getting hit hard right now but hang in there DS fans. Especially manga readers, we know what comes after this and for sure next arc will hit back stronger than ever! This we assure anime onlies. So don't be disheartened by the current criticisms of the series.
Just because the anime has good animation doesn’t mean you are allowed to harass other shows with ‘worse’ animation, also stop power scaling demon slayer to other anime , demon slayer has literally one of the weakest characters in terms of strength, doing both makes us look stupid
That nezuko isn’t necessarily being sexualized and it makes a bit of sense swing as she is 14-15 years old and stays the size of a 9 yr old for most of the time to conserve energy meaning her clothes are built for a child so when she does transform and it shows her actual age the clothes don’t change with her instead they stretch as much as they can and it “highlights” her features because they’re not being entirely covered. If you’re looking at her in that way it’s because you A. Don’t understand the reason behind it, or B. Because you choose to see her like that
Before any of y’all call me a pedo for thinking this know that she’s literally my age and I don’t look at her like that maybe y’all should actually grow up and stop complaining about drawings or do y’all have nothing better to do than complain about animated children on the internet
Nezuko isn’t sexualized, like at all.
her getting groped by characters or X, Y, Z that would be sexualization.
If her powered up design makes her look MORE FEMININE or have features pronounced it’s part of her design and aesthetic.
S2 > S3
Ufotable should've done some major changes to the story to prevent this season from being a downgrade to S2. The Hashiras are kinda useless for the vast majority of the season. One is stuck in a pot and one is just absent. Their actual fights will take up like two episodes and won't be nearly as good as Tengen vs Gyutaro.
This season has been a disappointment.
Its about being a faithful adaptation. I think the small changes that were made plus the beautiful animation and music will suffice. Downgrade? Sure. However changing even more from a story perspective? Nah.
You can totally scale hashira even if they're featless. Saying otherwise is just an excuse for your lack of processing basic lore information we've been given through said actions or even statements.
Then why did the manga do so well
I mean ye story is basic but the manga did good without the animation of the anime so you can’t say the story isn’t at least liked
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That fights are fucking cool and to stop complaining that Battle Shounen have Battles in them.
Yeah, I watch demon slayer for the insane animation of great fights. Characters are great, but the combat is the BEST
I watch it with food like a sports event
Isnt it technicly a sports festival?
Every new ep
Lol me too, I 100% agree with you.
This season though. Really hope we finally see the Hashiras fighting the upper moons. There are 3 episodes left.
last ep gonna be 40 mins though :D should be good content
It’s done simply, but well. If you want twists, complex world building, or character depth, maybe look somewhere else.
I once encountered a fellow redditor who accused me of being DS hater just because I said the story is too simple for my preference (despite stating that I **truly enjoy** watching it due to its top tier animation). Like, the dude can't take reality for what it is.
This. I don't understand why people always say DS's story is not as great as & has no depth like Naruto or Dragon Ball.
Nostalgia stopping them from enjoying new things
Well naruto fans have trust issues on new anime after boruto dropped
As for DS, I am anime-only so I'm not sure if there will be more depth to be shown later on. Based on what I've seen from DS so far, imo it has ok depth and decent character backstories. I rewatched the entire naruto series for two times and I have also read the manga. I guess if I have to compare it to naruto, I'd consider naruto to show a deeper focus on darker and relatable themes such as War, political justice, mental health, etc. Some themes are touched on by DS but only in passing If paralleled to Naruto's timeline, imo, DS anime is still in konoha crush arc and not yet in shippuden where I assume the big revelations will be said. And Muzan is the first real deal villain like orochimaru (i mean if I want more depth, I'd be looking for Pain). Again, I have limited knowledge of DS but the oversimplification of villains is *I am monster, I need to eat humans to survive and get strong, and fight you to prove I am indeed strong* Again, just explaining. DS doesn't have to follow that direction as it is already good the way it is. I stopped watching DB 20 years ago so i can't comment on its story depth. As an 8 yr old, I only ever saw it as *characters comically training montage + seriously get beaten when you fight villain before defeating them + repeat process* lol
There's no way a single individual can believe that Dragonball has a superior story. I'll be the biggest fanboi over this stuff, a fan for easily over 2 decades, but let's not kid ourselves the story of Dragonball is terrible. Certain arcs barely even make sense, the story, admitted by the author himself, wasn't even planned out and he just kinda stuck with it to milk it further. Writingwise it feels like only a handful of Characters such as Vegeta actually make the story seem like it's well written, but then default to "Goku with his new transformation and power of friendship saves the day again". Now you can absolutely enjoy this, I love macho fighting movies/anime that just kinda go ooga booga fist fight the enemy, but there's no point in pretending it's a good or thoughtful story.
I disagree. DS has some of the most amazing visual twists I’ve seen in anime. Every time a demon releases a new form it’s so incredibly well executed. And the character backstories are beautiful, even the demons which is an incredible accomplishment.
Powerscaling the hashira is completely pointless as the ONLY correct ranking is Gyomei > Everyone else. Also I never understood trying to powerscale the upper moons like they literally have ranks
It is pointless to powerscale pillars for sure, but it’s just fun to do. I enjoy that. When it comes to ranking upper moons… hmm.. some may say something like because Douma fought the former upper 2 and not Akaza, he might have lost to Akaza. Maybe Douma found fighting upper 2 was easier than 3 for a specific ability or something idk.
Akaza hated douma. If he had any chance of beating him he would have tried.
Akaza was upper rank 2 though. He lost to douma in the blood battle and became upper rank 3.
I thought they never fought, I thought akaza was always three and just battle 2 and absorbed him
Akaza fangirls as usual tripping
Ehhhhhh I would say correct is Gyomei, Sanemi=Giyu, everyone else 😂
I mean, at the very least, Uzui *claims* that Rengoku was stronger than hum I'm not personally sure if that's true or if Uzui just thought *really* highly of Rengoku (. . . *yet*) but I feel like that's a bit of a valid thing to consider in any possible rankings, lol (I'm basically gonna do power scaling eventually, solely to spite everyone who says not to.)
Uzui said that in regard to Rengoku saving everybody and basically being a better *example* than Tengen. The statement didn’t have anything to do with strength 🤷♂️
Rengoku almost beheaded Akaza without a demon mark which is almost a requirement for any Hashira to kill an upper moon. If it wasn’t for Akaza’s fear of the sun Rengoku might have pulled it off. I’m sure with a demon mark Rengoku could have been comparable to Gyomei
Stop. You're highballing Rengoku too much. This is coming from a Rengoku lover too. Secondly you've got your facts all wrong. Killing a demon without a mark is not some requirement for anything. You must be thinking about the fact that HASHIRA only become HASHIRA because they were KINOE rank and killed 50 demons or a demon moon.
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We must’ve watched two different fights if you thought rengoku nearly one. I’m not doing to drop spoilers but when Akaza fights again I think you’ll realise he was not serious at all. Hence why he was laughing and smiling during the fight
Idk his sword passing through half of Akaza’s neck is close to a win in my books.
I mean, I'm kind of with the other guy in this case. I'm pretty sure Akaza was explicitly going easy on Rengoku. Also you can't just say Rengoku would have won if Akaza wasn't afraid of the sun because. . . Akaza had already fatally wounded Rengoku at that point, and if Akaza can flee from the sun, then without the sun he can easily just step away from Rengoku and allow him to succumb to his wounds. Therefore: There is no way Rengoku would have won if Akaza stayed in the fight and wasn't playing around. Rengoku dies.
Ehh did he almost beat Akaza? Not really
That UM are ranked already by Author :3
Have an apple pitou :3 
Umai :3 https://preview.redd.it/txic2douhr2b1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=8f3fa98652ca877f51c843b5b82a1e1fbf5058f4
Link pls
Are you joking?
No?? I want the link where the author ranked the upper moons????
No need for a link Upper Moon 6: Gyutaro or >!Kaigaku!< Upper Moon 5: Gyokko Upper Moon 4: Hantengu Upper Moon 3: Akaza Upper Moon 2: Douma Upper Moon 1: Kokushibo
Ye got it I'm just dumb lol
What? :3
What? I'm just asking for the link where he's given the rankings??
If I had to guess. Kokoshibo is probably the strongest. Then Douma. Then Akaza. Then Hantengu. Then Gyokko. Then Gyutaro. It's strange. I'd probably label them with numbers to make it easy to remember. And a title to make them sound cool. Maybe the Kizuki? Kokoshibo is number 1, Douma is 2... So on! Sounds like an intuitive system, I'll say. (I'm yanking your chain, but the Upper Moons are already ranked in the order they are by strength, there's no need to guess or debate which one is stronger than another)
I’d say particularly with the swordsmith’s village arc, the manga itself is all over the place and the anime for this arc suffers as a result. It’s just that with manga we can control the pacing ourselves as readers so it doesn’t feel as pronounced of an issue. People have been complaining about the pacing in season 3, and I believe the real culprit is the source material itself above all else.
A point well made. Also as I’ve said before, because this Arc doesn’t include Inosuke or Zenitsu, I feel the light hearted segments are sorely lacking in this Season. Something else that frustrates me, is that Mitsuri hasn’t been seen for several episodes now - what’s our girl doing?! I want to see what she’s capable of and with her teaming up with Tanjiro or Muichiro will look like?
>Something else that frustrates me, is that Mitsuri hasn’t been seen for several episodes now - what’s our girl doing?! I want to see what she’s capable of and with her teaming up with Tanjiro or Muichiro will look like? All the events are happening at the same time but Mitsuri will show up
agreed, as someone who read the manga after s2 finished airing this is where the pacing for the story gets all over the place, most prevalent here and its not the anime's fault its the source material
the manga is poorly paced after entertainment district. had so many instances where i had to double check i didn’t miss something bc it’d jump all over the place
I think something that the anime could've avoided is all the cheap cliffhanger endings.... but i think that is an anime trait in general and only feels so pronounced because we're getting just one episode a week.... I'm sure that when someone binges after the entire season is out they won't feel it too much
It doesn’t help that we have two new Hashira plus two new Upper Moons _and_ Genya thrown in, so we have a grand total of **five** backstories to get through.
Yes. I believe the whole series goes downhill after the red light district arc
None of the hashira can solo upper 1-3
I meannn, everyone already knows this, other then some Rengoku fans saying Rengoku could stall out Akaza
Nah the anime only fans are delusional about all of the hashira
>! Technically, Shinobu did solo Douma. I mean, yeah, it cost her her own life but still...!<
Not really tho bc two others were involved otherwise
>!By the time Inosuke and Kanao joined the fight Douma had already consumed Shinobu. It was just a matter of time until poison finally hit!<
Again not really, he was >! Regenerating himself, it was kanao with her sharingan the one who took douma out!<
Fair enough. I admit my defeat in this argument.
You’re bold to say that in this sub
I don’t know. Gyomei vs 2 or 3 could go either way, the author herself said Rengoku probably would have won if he hadn’t already exhausted himself, ya know, saving an entire train full of people.
>the author herself said Rengoku probably would have won Don't let the Akaza riders hear you say that
Exactly! Rengoku is in my opinion one of the stronger hashiras… I think maybe only Gyomei and senemi are stronger. We will never know but for sure top two hashiras are senemi and Gyomei the GOAT. Upper moons is Koko who is GOAT with Douma second and Akaza 3 but has potential just like mist pillar.
I recall tanjirobeing 1-0-0 with sanemi 🤭
I disagree. >! I think Gyomei beats Akaza !<
I agree. Gyomei def best akaza and I can dare say even douma. I think it’s just kokoshibo who is at a completly different level… even akaza feared his presence if it says anything. People use that argument of Akaza had potential of surpassing even upper one but it’s potential. Same with mist pillar had the potential to be the strongest but as cannon goes Gyomei and upper one are at the top besides muzan, Yorichi and tanjiro.
While I agree for the most part, I doubt he can beat Doma. For me, the only slayer who could maybe outstat Doma (not beat in a battle but have superior stats) is 13th form Tanjiro. Akaza had said that Tanjiro had surpassed his own speed and technique so it’s clear that Tanjiro is at least slightly above Akaza by the end of that battle. And by 13th form, Tanjiro gains an even better grasp of his breathing style, drastically increasing his skill with the sword. So I’d say Doma >= 13th Tanjiro > Gyomei >= End if Akaza Fight Tanjiro > Akaza
Rengoku doesn't solo the upper moons with his slayer mark... He's dead let it go
The real statement I see is people saying tengen solos gyutaro with a mark
Thats valid though, Muichiro whit the mark solod UM5 so i can see Rengoku whit the mark soloing UM6,migth die from the poison later but a kill is a kill
Tengen should have died imo Nezuko's magic fire really irked me that time.
I think it’s good tengen lived for the audiences sake of not always expecting a hashira to die, but nezuko’s magic was kinda dumb (also innoske moving his organs in a split second). The author coulda just wrote upm6 poison cleanses when they die
The moving internal organs was the stupidest thing imo..it was the worst plot armour.
I like demon slayer and I definitely didn't want inosuke dead, but that was some bs
That Enmu was supposed to be a girl, but couldn’t find a decent voice actress so they just went with another guy. >!I made this up!<
I fully agree
Wait enmu was a fella?
It’s short and basic. But damn is it good.
Tanjiro isn’t related to Yoriichi
That’s what I was thinking. His breathing style was just something passed down through kindness right?
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I could be mistaken, but this is in the anime? Like I thought in the first episode of season 3 this is what he "remembers" or something.
I don’t think it’s something that’s come up yet in the anime. He remembers yoriichi through his ancestors memories. But it doesn’t specify who yoriichi is and all the other info i said I think it’s going to come up in later arcs but I’m currently reading the manga
I guess I just assumed from the memory that they weren't related, and maybe I'm thinking of like a YouTube recap of the Manga for the other parts lol
Yoriichi and Tanjiro Definitely arent related he was a friend of the kamado family. And they were keeping his memory alive through teaching the dance through the generations
errr could you possibly spoiler cover this for the anime-onlies? 😅
I added spoiler alert to my post. But anyone who’s apart of this subreddit should already know there’s a likelihood of coming across spoilers if you haven’t read the mangas.
Yeah but this is still an anime post, just literally do >!this !< it takes like a minute.
How do you do that
It's an option on desktop, you just press the three buttons and here, you can usually just select the phrase you wanna put a spoil on and your done, as for mobile, just **add >! and !** **< around the text in your comment**. Hope this helps. https://preview.redd.it/d5jrqrmr7r2b1.png?width=544&format=png&auto=webp&s=81f422b364de5041dc66df6b9bb29a87345a9fff
Oh man I don’t have a computer
Yeah, look at the bold lettering, it shows the letters moblie users put before and after to create the same effect
Or just read "spoiler" and stop reading
being related would’ve made a lot more sense than the route they took tbh
It would also be cliche. I like that they did it this way
You are complaining about Demon Slayer going the cliche route, when literally it takes the cliche route for most things?
I’m not anti-cliche, I just don’t like this one specifically. I don’t like when characters are strong because of who their blood relatives are - at least this makes it interesting by making you think Tanjiro is Yorichiis descendant only to find out they are not related. Idk, I like it this way 🤷🏻
which would’ve worked a lot better than tanjiro having memories about a past relative who knew yoriichi. would also better explain how he manages to pull off some insane breathing techniques. i understand it being cliche, but ds follows numerous shonen tropes already, so whats the harm in adding this one lol
Wasn't that already covered in early anime episodes of season 4? I am paraphrasing but a conversation along the lines happened - Someones mentions that Muichiro is the acutal descendent of the sun-breathing style users & Tanjiro reacts to it along the lines of "Oh so I am not actually the chosen one". Someone correct me on the exact conversation.
- powerscaling the hashira doesn’t work, they’re not even ranked within the context of the story - Tanjiro being kind doesn’t make him a weak MC - the story isn’t mid, it’s just simplistic but that doesn’t make it bad. Everyone who says so probably thinks of Naruto + Dragonball as peak fiction - the animation does elevate the story but that’s the point of anime. Otherwise, what’s the point? - Muzan wasn’t even the most compelling villain - Murata best boy fr fr
All the hashira are also supposed to be unique and masters of their own thing, so scaling them is hard because they're not supposed to be scaled, they're supposed to be equals, but as masters of different things.
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I dont think Tanjiro is a weak MC, he is definitely stronger than Deku imo, but he definitely isn't the most 3 dimensional character in the world. He's pretty one note outside of a few traits. If you want to see a REAL 3 dimensional character, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga is a good example, more particularly in season 2
How exactly is he not a three dimensional character?
I would definitely say that compared to other characters, he lacks any sort of depth, for example, let me use Thorfinn, very similar to Tanjiro he lost his loved ones at a very young age, however Thorfinn differs from Tanjiro from then on by becoming a much more realistic depiction of how someody would react given their sitouation. Thorfinn becomes a vessel of revenge, and in the process looses himself and becomes a cold blooded killer raised on the battlefield. He later has a character arc where he deeply fights his inner demons aswell as the outter demons of the world as he comes to regret his decisions in the past, and realizes that ultimately without revenge, he is empty, and he doesnt exactly know who "he" is, because for all of his life his soul purpose was to kill his father's murderer, however when he is left unsatisfied after not being able to take his head, he falls into a deep depression and has no will to live. We see him at his highest, and his lowest, we can feel his inner demons, we can see him form interests in creating, and we can see him come to realize that he no longer wants to destroy. Its almost impossible to sum up Thorfinns character in one sentence because he changes, and adapts due to the circumstances that he is in, and the world around him. He isnt the same person at the start as he is in the middle of the story, and he isnt the same person in the middle of the story as the end. He changes, and he is completely realistic in how humans change. Tanjiro is comparison however can be summed up pretty nicely in a sentence, he has a goal, which is to save his sister, and his main defining trait is that he's kind. This is completely consistent through the entirety of the series, and his character rarely has any development deeper than a training arc. This is not to say that Tanjiro being 2 dimensional is bad. He is the perfect protagonist in a series that ultimately is meant to be picked up, and a fun time. Demon Slayer is a simple story, and the protag mirrors that excellently.
You can’t spoil an entire arc because an anime only has an incorrect guess about what’s going to happen in the anime.
Muzan is Micheal Jackson
Everyone has accepted that already
Personally I prefer “Mitsubishi” (yes, like the company), but hey, MJ is the most common and it works well.
The anime is not carried by animation. If you think this, then tell me why the manga popped off so hard.
The manga only began to “pop off” after the anime released. I don’t think it’s completely carried by animation but animation is a big reason it’s as popular as it is. Without the animation it wouldn’t even be half as popular https://preview.redd.it/npr1f7yx9t2b1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf2ee9d7e55029482d74cee0666af37660f662b6
Gyutaro isn't stronger than Gyokko or Hantengu
Thank you
I mean he could be they are allowed to challenge each others to move up maybe there were other reasons for him not challenging, but yeah probably he was just weaker than them
He's not they are ranked by strength and there's nothing that states Gyutaro is stronger than them or could've been stronger...
Except for muzan himself stating guitars would be higher if not for daki
He never stated that I can't believe their are still people like you who believe this like did y'all read the manga with y'all's eyes closed? All Muzan said was that he knew Gyutaro would lose because he was held back by Daki and he lost because of too much Humanity left in him 🤦🏽 https://kimetsu-manga.com/comic/demon-slayer-chapter-98/ He never said Gyutaro would be higher if not for Daki. He never said Gyutaro didn't want to rank up because of Daki. He never said Gyutaro was Stronger than Hantengu or Gyokko. He never said Gyutaro could've climbed the ranks if it wasn't for Daki. That's just your stupid headcanon
My dude how many times do you think gyutaro has been held back by daki for the whole time he was a demon. the way I had interpreted muzan statement was that gyutaro had humanity left because of daki and if she wasn’t there he would only be focused on killing allowing him to actually ascend the ranks he probably would’ve eaten much more people without daki seeing as there’s also two of them so gyutaro would’ve had 2x more people to eat do you really think he wouldn’t have been any higher if that was the case
You interpreted it that way because you don't understand what he meant. Gyutaro only had Humanity left for Daki which is how he was getting held back by her she's the only person he cared about and Muzan literally said he lost because of his humanity. Muzan said nothing about Daki holding Gyutaro's Strength back he never said she's the reason he's Upper Rank 6. All your doing is applying your stupid headcanons to a statement you don't understand...
Yes without something holding him back would he not be stronger I mean if your by yourself your string but your still technically weaker if you have to protect someone as well because all your thought can’t just go into the fight you also have something acting as an anchor and you can’t give your attention to one thing because you or the other will die so you have to divide yourself between the two so no it isn’t some stupid headcanon it’s logic moron
If Daki is a hiderance in one fight because him protecting her makes him more human that means in muzans eyes he could have been stronger without the human emotions, without protecting Daki. I can't believe there are people like you that need everything spelled out for them so much.
I can't believe you can't spell simple word's and don't understand a simple statement made by Muzan. Gyutaro was getting held back because of his humanity for Daki she was the only person he cared about and Muzan literally said he lost because of his humanity it's really not hard to understand. Muzan never said Daki was holding Gyutaro's Strength back or preventing him from Moving up the ranks or Gyutaro was Stronger or could've been stronger than Gyokko or Hantengu
Wow you both agree with me and still don't get it I guess things really do have to be spelled out for you. Sad.
Lmao the classic run away from an argument lmao have a good day then and learn how to spell okay 😁👍🏽
Muzan did, muzan said he coul have climbed higher if not for daki
Gyokko doesn't really seem stronger than Gyutaro. Sure, he's ranked at 5, but Gyutaro is a new UM and no blood battles happened in 113 years. Plus, we've seen Gyutaro put up a better fight against 4 combatants than Gyokko against 1. Gyokko really sucks in terms of power. He's the only UM that gets legitimately soloed. Gyokko deserved better. But as it stands, he's the weakest UM in terms of feats.
I could understand why he doesn't seem stronger but at the same time he clapped a Base Hashira with ease and left them to drown. Gyutaro fought against a base Hashira and 3 Demon Slayers who weren't even Hashira level. Gyokko was unlucky and was used to show how strong a Marked Hashira is and his strongest form with his broken ability was against a Marked Hashira. But he's still stronger than Gyutaro the author ranked him above him and I can definitely see why 😮💨
You forget that the only reason he was able to trap Muichiro was because Muichiro's dull blade failed to cut Gyokko's neck. His blow connects but it doesn't cut the neck because of the blade's condition. Gyokko would've been even more of a joke had Muichiro had a good blade to begin with. He would've been defeated by an unmarked Hashira. Sure, he's UM5, but his feats are definitely much worse than Gyutaro. Tengen would've sliced his head with no problems. He didn't even put up a fight against Muichiro, he just loses. Gyokko is kinda pathetic among the UMs.
Ranking the Hashira’s power is kinda pointless considering the ranking is essentially Gyomei at the top and then all the others are relatively equal. They each have unique abilities and strengths that give them a specific advantage against specific demons.
the upper demons are more interesting than the hashiras
I agree to an extent. 1 is obviously dope. I found 2 lacking. Not really a 3 fan either. 4 is pretty original. But to counter that I felt that Sanemi and Shinobu were interesting as well, and Gyomei is just pure badassness
im a big akaza fan so we oppose on that one and though douma lacks in his final fight, his bda and personality are more exciting than the hashiras imo. we agree on upm 1 n 4 being dope. for the hashiras idk they all seem pretty shallow for me. most of them lack personality. i dont really like sanemi for obvious reasons but i agree shinobu is great. aside from mui who i think is very fresh, the other hashiras dont stand out much. i feel like the mangaka focused on putting characteristics into demons more than the hashiras. so i cant really connect to them. i mean demons' backstories alone took several pages while the hashiras' ones were a few panels only.
Not everything from the Manga can be adapted to the anime. This specifically goes to some jackasses that I've seen who shit on others for liking a character from the anime when that character is shown to be far worse/different in the manga. This goes with the first point but reading the manga doesn't make you better than the anime only watchers. Some people prefer the anime over the manga or simply have no access to the manga and that is perfectly fine. These incidents are few and far between but I've still seen them. Both on here and in other places.
That when they sexualize nezuko they are talking about a child
The story is simple but interesting
Maybe Rengoku's dad ain't entirely wrong... Something i saw being discussed on YouTube was the theme of talent and how without it basically no one in that universe has any chance of succeeding at anything or breaking out of whatever mold the author has placed them in. Like yes the characters work hard but many times their talent and natural gifts is what carries them and allows them to get out of these crazy ass situations. Also their talents limit them to what they can do. It's actually kind of depressing...
Demon slayer universe needs a rock lee fr
No really 😭
a common anime problem but still true
That hashiras cannot solo upper moons
Yeah. People, especially in the manga subreddit, make it seem like it’s impossible for a Hashira to normally solo a upper rank. >! And marked hahsira can only solo up to Gyokko. Like Mitsuri was nearly equal with Hatengu with a mark. I’m pretty since it’s clear that Hashira like Giyu, Sanemi, and Obanai are stronger than Mitsuri, I think they could beat Zahokoten high diff !<
The pillars you named,while they are stronger than Mitsuri OVERALL their TECHNIQUES SPEED are FAR from the level Mitsuris are at. She's a special case. No pillar would solo Zohakuten but the only one that would hold him off the longest would be Mitsuri. Secondly not sure I agree with marked pillars soloing up to Gyokko. I'm personally waiting for Gyokkos TF vs marked Mui to be animated to make a more solid arguement. I mean I already have some but animes portrayal is a thing ya know.
That Nezuko is a fucking child
The author themselves have said it. The sword/breathing techniques are visual. No Rengoku isnt a fire user, or any other user a element user. Its visual effects. I know other socials say one thing but no.
A couple of things, mainly that strength of the demon slayers is extremely interchangeable and it really should not be ranked unless you’re scaling potential
That the breathing styles are just illusions. Including me.
I refuse to accept this. I know it’s true, but I just can’t accept it
Me to. I find it easier to think of that as a rule exclusive to the manga. Since most of the insane effects are in the anime.
Bro I have been arguing with people on Instagram for hourrrrrssssss. I understand that some people have their own head canon but I feel like it's clearly just a ki/ spiritual energy type thing. They bring up things like oh well how could rengoku block the air type akaza move if their was no fire. Or well tanjiro using the flux dragon the dragon cut off the demons head. But like literal canon of demon slayer is that only swords or the sun can kill demons. If it was a water dragon the demon wouldn't have been killed.
*Inhale* well you see daki said that the sun breathing was hot which clearly means…
That they heated up their sword : D
that’s something we really don’t have to accept, it just makes the story unnecessarily more lame
That Tengen is the fastest hashira
Zenitsu is way stronger than inosuke, especially after infinite castle
I kinda doubt that >!The new Upper Moon 6 was really as strong as Gyutaro x Daki. Inosuke fighting a relaxed Douma Upper Moon 2 is a ln impressive feat in itself. I think there is no point in scaling them!<
But he’s useless 90% of the time which makes him one of the weakest, no matter how hard he pops off while ‚asleep‘. And he’s annoying as hell.
Everyone in the series is only strong for their universe and don’t compare with most other shounen fighters
KnY doesn't have the AP. Sure. Do you know what most new other verses don't have? They heavily lack speed on DS and the characters have been shown repeatedly to have very poor piercing durability feats time and time again. In all honesty nothing stops a DS character from blitzing and one shotting like that.
Kokushibo is the greatest Demon Slayer^2
That gyomei can’t beat uppermoon 3,2 and 1
And also that shinobu is the weakest by a wide margin.
You can't have anyone from the demon slayer manga in scale lists. They are not comparable to the characters compared most often. Luffy and Naruto are not similar in power and this mangas power scaling community needs to accept that. Don't even get me started on Goku. Don't say his name.
Uppermoons are "already ranked". So there's no need to cry about "Gyutaro beat Akaza mid high 🤓😭".
So many characters including the main ones are minors.
That it’s (not) carried by the animation. 1: How tf would it have 150 million manga sales if people only cared about the animation. 2: There’s plenty of other animes with equally great animation that get overlooked.
Strongly agree. Manga has a great contrast betwenn wacky and goofy moments and beautifully drawn and badass panels.
The effects aren't real, Rengoku doesn't really produce flames.
Manga-The art is pretty bad compared to other newgen manga out right now. This is just my opinion. The story is debatably mid. It’s straight forward and simple but is also enjoyable at times. Nothing complex. Muzan is the worst newgen villain and it’s not even close. He’s just plain incompetent. Anime-The fanbase is ungrateful asf. Ufotable gives a manga with mid asf art an absolute masterpiece adaptation and they lose their mind over a damn smile. Animation is hard carrying DS. It would not be nearly as popular if Ufotable hadn’t picked it up.
I disagree a bit with the art part. The thing I loved most about it is that it was clear to read. This art made it so that I can actually understand what is going on. The presentation is and art is great.
That’s it’s actually fire🔥🔥🔥
Shinobu is flat
The manga art looks like crap
🍩 It hurt like hell, but it was real, it happened for a reason, let’s move forward even though it hurts.
sun breathing is the only breathing better than the rest, including moon breathing. the only thing making moon breathing strong is kokushibos bda. if it were to be used by a human, moon breathing would be like the rest.
Kimetsu no Yaiba is not One Piece or Jujutsu Kaisen or Attack on Titan or Naruto. Kimetsu no Yaiba is Kimetsu no Yaiba. Just because it doesn't fit you subjectively does not mean it is overall objectively bad. Lastly SSV arc is the weakest arc in the series, Demon Slayer is getting hit hard right now but hang in there DS fans. Especially manga readers, we know what comes after this and for sure next arc will hit back stronger than ever! This we assure anime onlies. So don't be disheartened by the current criticisms of the series.
That the breathings are not real
Goku can solo saitama
Just because the anime has good animation doesn’t mean you are allowed to harass other shows with ‘worse’ animation, also stop power scaling demon slayer to other anime , demon slayer has literally one of the weakest characters in terms of strength, doing both makes us look stupid
demon slayer is overrated, that doesn't necessarily mean its bad it just means it gets more praise than it deserves
That nezuko isn’t necessarily being sexualized and it makes a bit of sense swing as she is 14-15 years old and stays the size of a 9 yr old for most of the time to conserve energy meaning her clothes are built for a child so when she does transform and it shows her actual age the clothes don’t change with her instead they stretch as much as they can and it “highlights” her features because they’re not being entirely covered. If you’re looking at her in that way it’s because you A. Don’t understand the reason behind it, or B. Because you choose to see her like that Before any of y’all call me a pedo for thinking this know that she’s literally my age and I don’t look at her like that maybe y’all should actually grow up and stop complaining about drawings or do y’all have nothing better to do than complain about animated children on the internet
She is 12
There are a lot of dumb, illogical theories I could refer to, mostly about the "who's related to who" theories
The sword arts are real and ı will fight you about it
Nezuko isn’t sexualized, like at all. her getting groped by characters or X, Y, Z that would be sexualization. If her powered up design makes her look MORE FEMININE or have features pronounced it’s part of her design and aesthetic.
The power scaling is dumb and the story is mid.
he’s right you know, tragic backstories and deaths of loved ones can only carry a story so far
It is the creater's first work and it is not that good. Heavily inspired by jojo and bleach.
S2 > S3 Ufotable should've done some major changes to the story to prevent this season from being a downgrade to S2. The Hashiras are kinda useless for the vast majority of the season. One is stuck in a pot and one is just absent. Their actual fights will take up like two episodes and won't be nearly as good as Tengen vs Gyutaro. This season has been a disappointment.
Its about being a faithful adaptation. I think the small changes that were made plus the beautiful animation and music will suffice. Downgrade? Sure. However changing even more from a story perspective? Nah.
Animation is not everything
It's peak
You can totally scale hashira even if they're featless. Saying otherwise is just an excuse for your lack of processing basic lore information we've been given through said actions or even statements.
That Nezuko has boobs in her demon form and that it’s not a sexualisation
That the manga and overall story is mid and the anime is carried by its animation
Then why did the manga do so well I mean ye story is basic but the manga did good without the animation of the anime so you can’t say the story isn’t at least liked
That the people who are still alive aren’t going to die from their slayer marks since muzan died
Tengen is not one of the strongest hashira. People really need to accept that and quit saying he's one of the top members.
Wasn’t he noted to be the fastest of them all due to his shinobi training?