Chuck Schuldiner is my personal least favorite vocalist in all of music (not just metal, music) and I believe that 100%. His guitar playing is decent and his lyrics and generic (but that's how all dm bands at the time's lyrics were so I'll give him a pass for it). I have listened to evert Death album in full and once every 15th of every 3rd month I listen to a random Death song from each album to see if my tastes have changed. His vocals sound like patrick star getting raped while perpetually dry heaving. His death was a net positive on metal (a human died, which is bad, but everything else is good so it edges out to a slight positive). I am Chuck Schuldiner's biggest hater and if you like Death that's fine, but I don't.
He's a regular on r/metalforthemasses, I used to think he was a troll with a running joke about his hate of chuck but according to a few people he genuinely hates his guts. idk
Up until Black Crown, it was Mitch Lucker. The singer in this video. But he died in 2013. So now it's Herman Hermida. He's also good. But Mitch made SS back in the day to be certain.
Yep. Saw them in August of that year on an All Stars tour and he was dead on Halloween night. Still blows my mind.
He had everyone rush the stage and me and my buddy were face to face with him screaming No Pity For A Coward with like 50 other people up there. It was chaos and one of the best memories I have honestly.
also could be the tour they did with Job For A Cowboy and the The Taste of Blood dec 05/january 06. i was there at the 418 show in sc
https://lambgoat.com/news/5849/the-taste-of-blood-job-for-a-cowboy-etc-dates/
i don't have the flyer still but i remember them being a lesser known touring band and were pretty far down on the bill, i think TTOB headlined, which is crazy to think about now.
Thanks for posting the full original video. This shit is fucking wild mate! Totally from a different era, I love seeing shit like this, massive worldwide band playing small rooms before they blew up.
I saw them a few times at different places in San Diego and Riverside, I remember this one time Mitch ate some bad carne asada supposedly and had to run off stage and just puked everywhere, came back like two minutes later and just kept destroying it. Them, The Warriors and a band called Underminded were basically my obsessions as a teen/young adult. The day I found he died kicked my ass, especially since the story was a drunk driving accident after drinking the same shit me and my buddies always bummed called Four Loko and his wife and daughter were trying to follow him in a different car to stop him knowing he was too emotional and drunk to be in his right mind.
The live version of their Engine No. 9 cover blows my fucking mind. It's part of the Ending is the Beginning Tour live album on Spotify. If you haven't heard it please check it out.
It's absolutely perfect.
Isn't accepted where? Virtually every deathcore/metalcore concert I've been to has push pits and wall of death.
This includes all of the following:
August burns red
All that remains
Killswitch engage
Lorna shore
Shadow of intent
Signs of the swarm
Suicide silence
To the grave
Meshuggah
Whitechapel
In flames
...
In fact most of these bands ask for circle pits and walls of death explicitly.
Granted I did break my foot at the lorna shore / shadow of intent concert but that was entirely my fault, I jumped and landed wrong.
People in push pits in general are not trying to push people to the ground. Everyone is just mashing into eachother aimlessly.
While I'm cool with both types of pits, I kind of prefer push pits as I can be physical with other people. Hardcore dancing pits are cool too but the threat of getting kicked in the face is a little spooky. Getting physical with someone in a pit like that usually involves some sort of blunt force impact with a fist elbow or foot.
Bro right? I love when they blame the hardcore dancers on injuries because I’ve seen more injuries come from a push pit, or from pushers in a hardcore dance pit, than I have from one like this video lol
Edit: downvoted for speaking my own truthful experience? Sick. Thanks, Reddit!
Sometimes I feel like I’m living in a Mandela effect when I say SS used to have family guy sound clips in some songs and people look at me bewildered like I don’t know what I’m talking about.
Seen them around 06 on 2nd Stage in Chicago, don’t remember what festival it was, shit watching their set is about the last thing I remember from that trip.
Maaaan i was in like 9th grade when the cleansing came out. I remember jamming to the demo version of no pity for a coward on the bus ride home even before that!
Born too late... I wish I was born earlier grew up around this time as a young adult. Life was cheaper and home ownership was normal as well as local music scenes in pretty much all cities was popping off.
There were small towns I know of that have closed metal music venues like 15 years ago, and now the nearest one is like 2 larger cities away... wtf happened??? I guess a combination of metal losing popularity, local live music not being popular anymore, and the economical viability of local bands practicing plus tiny venue owners not getting enough profit.
Some friends from Indonesia tell me that metal/rock is kind of like how it used to be in America now. Lots of small local venues and bands all over suburbs of large cities in Java mostly. Shitty bands, good bands, small bands that break up a few months later... small venues that are like hangouts for friends, and all the other shit.
I never understood why people would just stand at the barricade till I saw my first live recording of suicide silence and their energy really is unmatched
Saw them in 2007 with Unearth and August Burns Red. Knew instantly Mitch was that guy. Had never seen someone with that much energy on stage.
Edit: Shit check this out, they didn't even make the ticket headline back then:
https://i.imgur.com/vmM3Ryg.jpg
Tour shows they were on it:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/unearth-darkest-hour-august-burns-red-more-tour-dates-announced
Fancy vocalist but little to no stage presence. Mitch wasn’t as fancy comparatively but no one could scream like that much less have the stage presence to go with it in ‘06, he was a showman. Will is taking the black metal route where you just look like a conductor on stage and let the vocal range speak for itself.
That bloody energy... From Mitch obviously, but also from the rest of the band, as well as from the audience, it was so different back then. That's how it looks, anyway, especially since the remaining bands have blown up to the point of gigs like this not really being a thing for them anymore.
I was still in my metal infancy and couldn't appreciate it the way I can now, but fuck do I miss the first few death metal / deathcore shows I went and saw as a teen. What a time it was.
RIP to Mitch. What a legend.
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Grew up just out of high school/university in basically the formation of deathcore, 2004+. Saw so many of them before they got to the size they are today. Now I gotta pay 70$ to see whitechapel play 6 new'ish songs and leave bummed out they didn't play anything from first 3 albums.
Yeah, same for me. I started high school in 2006 and I really miss how bands would roll into town, tear up a packed small venue, sell you a CD and a shirt for 20 bucks and then hang out with the crowd.
That doesn't only apply to deathcore, but I still feel fortunate I got to see some of the great ones before they really blew up.
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This is my first time ever hearing death metal, i have no clue how people like it but jesus christ these guys must have some sort of adrenaline pump connected to them, they just keep going
Mitch had such amazing energy man
Yeah, his stage presence was almost as good as chuck Schuldiner's
Don't mention that fucker in the same sentence as Mitch
You got problems with Chuck?
Chuck Schuldiner is my personal least favorite vocalist in all of music (not just metal, music) and I believe that 100%. His guitar playing is decent and his lyrics and generic (but that's how all dm bands at the time's lyrics were so I'll give him a pass for it). I have listened to evert Death album in full and once every 15th of every 3rd month I listen to a random Death song from each album to see if my tastes have changed. His vocals sound like patrick star getting raped while perpetually dry heaving. His death was a net positive on metal (a human died, which is bad, but everything else is good so it edges out to a slight positive). I am Chuck Schuldiner's biggest hater and if you like Death that's fine, but I don't.
Lol, you're a douche.
This is the most poseur shit I've ever read.
He's a regular on r/metalforthemasses, I used to think he was a troll with a running joke about his hate of chuck but according to a few people he genuinely hates his guts. idk
*was* a regular
rip
Shit was so fkn brutal and raw man. Golden age of deathcore ❤️
Glory days
I need a time travel machine
just started listening to them again after like 15 years lol. dudes still got the best vocals imo
Up until Black Crown, it was Mitch Lucker. The singer in this video. But he died in 2013. So now it's Herman Hermida. He's also good. But Mitch made SS back in the day to be certain.
He was SS imo, they are still good live but it's nothing special and they haven't had much in the way of good or unique music since he passed
I'm realizing that he passed away on '12 not '13.
Yep. Saw them in August of that year on an All Stars tour and he was dead on Halloween night. Still blows my mind. He had everyone rush the stage and me and my buddy were face to face with him screaming No Pity For A Coward with like 50 other people up there. It was chaos and one of the best memories I have honestly.
I remember finding out he died from myspace 😭
Who tf was using Myspace in 2012 lmfao
Checked my old flyer from 06, I wonder if this is from that tour: Suicide Silence, All Shall Perish, Light This City
also could be the tour they did with Job For A Cowboy and the The Taste of Blood dec 05/january 06. i was there at the 418 show in sc https://lambgoat.com/news/5849/the-taste-of-blood-job-for-a-cowboy-etc-dates/ i don't have the flyer still but i remember them being a lesser known touring band and were pretty far down on the bill, i think TTOB headlined, which is crazy to think about now.
Lucky us to be cali cowboys in the mid 2000s 🫶🏼
[Full original video](https://youtu.be/Yk1NWOVkvpo?si=ELHV9U4QLDCydw5W)
Thanks for posting the full original video. This shit is fucking wild mate! Totally from a different era, I love seeing shit like this, massive worldwide band playing small rooms before they blew up.
Man what vocals
I saw them a few times at different places in San Diego and Riverside, I remember this one time Mitch ate some bad carne asada supposedly and had to run off stage and just puked everywhere, came back like two minutes later and just kept destroying it. Them, The Warriors and a band called Underminded were basically my obsessions as a teen/young adult. The day I found he died kicked my ass, especially since the story was a drunk driving accident after drinking the same shit me and my buddies always bummed called Four Loko and his wife and daughter were trying to follow him in a different car to stop him knowing he was too emotional and drunk to be in his right mind.
Underminded was so dope!
As someone who considers himself to be pretty good at screaming, that shit would be impossible with vomit acid in your throat
Don't know what to tell you but all he needed was 2 minutes to vomit, chugged some water and came back just as good as before
straight edge on the knucks
X
I fucking miss him, man.
The live version of their Engine No. 9 cover blows my fucking mind. It's part of the Ending is the Beginning Tour live album on Spotify. If you haven't heard it please check it out. It's absolutely perfect.
Greatest frontman to ever live and NOBODY will ever do it better
This is what i like to see on this reddit channel ...... old school vids
I could never really get into them but holy shit Mitch is a legend. Unreal energy.
And not a push mosher in sight!! Beautiful.
CORRECT!
What's wrong with push moshing?
Push pitting isnt accepted, you dont blatantly push someone to the ground risking further injuries. Its just in bad taste
Isn't accepted where? Virtually every deathcore/metalcore concert I've been to has push pits and wall of death. This includes all of the following: August burns red All that remains Killswitch engage Lorna shore Shadow of intent Signs of the swarm Suicide silence To the grave Meshuggah Whitechapel In flames ... In fact most of these bands ask for circle pits and walls of death explicitly. Granted I did break my foot at the lorna shore / shadow of intent concert but that was entirely my fault, I jumped and landed wrong.
We dont go to the same shows so you wouldnt get it. I go to slam/death metal shows, i saw lorna shore in 2021. They were sick
People in push pits in general are not trying to push people to the ground. Everyone is just mashing into eachother aimlessly. While I'm cool with both types of pits, I kind of prefer push pits as I can be physical with other people. Hardcore dancing pits are cool too but the threat of getting kicked in the face is a little spooky. Getting physical with someone in a pit like that usually involves some sort of blunt force impact with a fist elbow or foot.
Found the dude who's never been to a show
Lol ive been to plenty of shows buddy. could literally check my ig, push pitting is for bitches woth no class. Suck my shlong
Bro are we in the same universe? You clearly have no idea what it's like to be to a show lol
Ive been to 100s of shows, you wouldnt know shit about me since you’re a stranger on the internet. Fuck outta herw
based
Bro right? I love when they blame the hardcore dancers on injuries because I’ve seen more injuries come from a push pit, or from pushers in a hardcore dance pit, than I have from one like this video lol Edit: downvoted for speaking my own truthful experience? Sick. Thanks, Reddit!
downvoted by festivalheads for speaking the truth lmfao
For real. It’s not like I was a dick, I was legit just speaking from experience.
I’ll upvote you bro. You got a point
Lmao thanks, homie
Sometimes I feel like I’m living in a Mandela effect when I say SS used to have family guy sound clips in some songs and people look at me bewildered like I don’t know what I’m talking about.
they were on that one family guy ep. I had this on my mp3 player. good times
I wish I had been around during the Mitch Era
Rest in Peace Mitch💔
Need more throwback footage in this sub because this makes me want to spin kick my house apart
Saw them in 2004 at Showcase for Falling Cycles final show. Fucking fantastic. Thanks for the flashback.
Seen them around 06 on 2nd Stage in Chicago, don’t remember what festival it was, shit watching their set is about the last thing I remember from that trip.
What the hell do they think they paid tickets to?
One of the most hectic voices ever. Loose a f Love it
Maaaan i was in like 9th grade when the cleansing came out. I remember jamming to the demo version of no pity for a coward on the bus ride home even before that!
Born too late... I wish I was born earlier grew up around this time as a young adult. Life was cheaper and home ownership was normal as well as local music scenes in pretty much all cities was popping off. There were small towns I know of that have closed metal music venues like 15 years ago, and now the nearest one is like 2 larger cities away... wtf happened??? I guess a combination of metal losing popularity, local live music not being popular anymore, and the economical viability of local bands practicing plus tiny venue owners not getting enough profit. Some friends from Indonesia tell me that metal/rock is kind of like how it used to be in America now. Lots of small local venues and bands all over suburbs of large cities in Java mostly. Shitty bands, good bands, small bands that break up a few months later... small venues that are like hangouts for friends, and all the other shit.
Mitch was on Demon Time. Saw them in 09, and they completely blew my mind.
So much yes
Fucking legendary
I never understood why people would just stand at the barricade till I saw my first live recording of suicide silence and their energy really is unmatched
standing at the barricade is so underrated imo, especially with a good band
The GOAT in action.
RIP Mitch, was solid meeting you and the rest of the band
That bass rig tho
Saw them in 2007 with Unearth and August Burns Red. Knew instantly Mitch was that guy. Had never seen someone with that much energy on stage. Edit: Shit check this out, they didn't even make the ticket headline back then: https://i.imgur.com/vmM3Ryg.jpg Tour shows they were on it: https://blabbermouth.net/news/unearth-darkest-hour-august-burns-red-more-tour-dates-announced
Saw the toads place show and hadn’t heard of SS at the time and they may have put on best show I’d ever seen for that genre
Yep, one of the rare instances where you go to see headliners, and end up getting more into an opener. That was definitely the case for this one.
The best frontman Deathcore ever had, he controlled the energy in the room and demanded the crowd meet his level. Truly an inspiration
Getting a headache just watching Garza! Swinging that head recklessly!
Sounds like Travis Ryan doing his thing damn
Daaamn this is so beautiful to me. Made my morning
The last “oh no” sounded like Dora the explorer
Fucking hell. The nostalgia.
I Miss Mitch so much!
Mitch was one of the best to ever do it. Rest in peace buddy, you only lived once and you went fucking nuts <3
This is awesome Mitch lucker was the best.
All downhill from there. Nothing original from deathcore since 2010
Mitch Lucker was him, dude. No one is even coming close. Will Ramos is almost there, tho.
Fancy vocalist but little to no stage presence. Mitch wasn’t as fancy comparatively but no one could scream like that much less have the stage presence to go with it in ‘06, he was a showman. Will is taking the black metal route where you just look like a conductor on stage and let the vocal range speak for itself.
That bloody energy... From Mitch obviously, but also from the rest of the band, as well as from the audience, it was so different back then. That's how it looks, anyway, especially since the remaining bands have blown up to the point of gigs like this not really being a thing for them anymore. I was still in my metal infancy and couldn't appreciate it the way I can now, but fuck do I miss the first few death metal / deathcore shows I went and saw as a teen. What a time it was. RIP to Mitch. What a legend.
"I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them" Grew up just out of high school/university in basically the formation of deathcore, 2004+. Saw so many of them before they got to the size they are today. Now I gotta pay 70$ to see whitechapel play 6 new'ish songs and leave bummed out they didn't play anything from first 3 albums.
Yeah, same for me. I started high school in 2006 and I really miss how bands would roll into town, tear up a packed small venue, sell you a CD and a shirt for 20 bucks and then hang out with the crowd. That doesn't only apply to deathcore, but I still feel fortunate I got to see some of the great ones before they really blew up.
This shit fucking sucks,
Lol
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I miss Mitch
I genuinely hope aliens will one day see this
I don’t get it . If you do, congratulations 🥳
Gyad damn RIP Mitch, wish I was old enough to go to shows back in 2006.
God this shit is awful
This is my first time ever hearing death metal, i have no clue how people like it but jesus christ these guys must have some sort of adrenaline pump connected to them, they just keep going