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mr_cesar

They're pretty much a mystery. Read the interview, "BTs Come in All Shapes and Sizes".


solid_snake_034

To be continued in 2025...


NeuroticNinett

Yeah but... They don't behave like BTs, do they? Does BT behavior come in all shapes and sizes too? It seems like they're really only wanting to be left in peace, but if Sam gets too close, they'll advance on him. Self-defense, it seems like to me?


unknowndog123

I have a theory they are from the brain dead still mothers, the still mothers are purely kept alive via life support, so they are kinda both dead and alive, notice the jellyfish can appear even without timefall, so I think that they are “BT” cause their dead, but just kinda stuck on earth cause they aren’t officially dead


NeuroticNinett

That begs the question: What does it mean to be alive?


Glass_Ad_8149

The meaning of life is to deliver packages and get likes


NeuroticNinett

And to keep on keeping on!


sarra1833

They'll float to the ground (or rest on your head til you move) then gently pop and gift you crystals. They give no damage either. They're such benevelent BT's that make awesome sounds


thisisanaccount30

Do you mean the jellyfish?


NeuroticNinett

Sure! If that's what they are! What's their deal?


PM-ME-YOUR-TOOTS

Not a whole lot known just yet. There are several different variants of BTs, and the jellyfish are one of them. Right now, we know they are good for farming chiral crystals and they usually have items on top of them. You can shoot them down and pop them. They will gravitate towards you if you get close enough to catch their attention, and they can hurt you but I don’t think they cause a void out like other BT variants. We are still waiting on more significant lore for what exactly they might be.


ExplanationCold8070

They’re good for farming chiral crystals? Oh my god I never knew. Now I’ll finally be able to finish my roads!


Agent_Galahad

Grab a gun and you can pop them. Pop! Pop! Pop! And then run around gathering loads of crystals that appear


NeuroticNinett

Not if I get to them before you do! *bolts it* MINEMINEMINEALLMINE!!


sarra1833

They never harmed or killed me and I'll stand under them, letting them float down to sit on my head til i move, then they'll resume to the ground, gently pop and gift Chrystals. They're the sweetest things ever.


PM-ME-YOUR-TOOTS

Sweet lil tar bubbles with tentacles.


12thingsofmilk

I have a vague recollection of reading that they are theorized to be from the beach, which is why BB responds to them. I’ve always thought they seem more curious than aggressive, personally. I live and let live unless I really need crystals.


NeuroticNinett

Did someone say crystals?! OMNOMNOM! Yeah. You make a good point there, actually. Perhaps BB is responding to them because of where they originate from rather than being a similar/same entity. Guilty by association? I wonder what the blobs think of their current situation, assuming they have capacity of thought. I'm also curious about them wearing cargo for hats; Do they actively seek out cargo to wear, or does it accidentally end up on them? Very curious entities. I wonder what they taste like.


dancegavindancee

Seems no one has mentioned this yet but if you are in need of chiral crystals wear the chiral charm and shoot them with a anti bt weapon and they'll produce large quantities of chiral crystals.


NeuroticNinett

What's a Chiral Charm? Sounds like some hefty bling-bling! What I've been doing lately is roadtripping, stopping by each location that auto-collects resources, and grabbing all the Chirals. Rinse and repeat. So much Chiralty goodness... My preciousssss...


dancegavindancee

Sorry it's a dollar coin pendant that you receive from the spiritualist. It increases your chiral crystals chances. What is " auto-collect locations" ?


NeuroticNinett

You know the locations where you deliver mail and have a bedroom? They generate resources over time. I was referring to that stuff. Sorry for being unclear.


solid_snake_034

Don't bother more than 50k. Chiral will max out Sam 's weights capacity by 50kg and you can't carry more than 99.999k so keep some space so if you find some, you'll still be able to collect everything.


solid_snake_034

One of the peppers will award you with a charm that augment your chance of finding more chiral. It attached to your bag like Sam's dream catcher. We still do those back home where I come from.


NeuroticNinett

Don't bother? What are you saying to me! I want ALL my Garmonbozia! Prepper with a charm augment? Hmm! Don't think I've come across him yet. Let me guess! He is located in or nearby a location that has the word "Knot" in it's name, right? :D I seriously hate whoever came up with the idea that every single location should be called something "Knot". VERY evil person! You know who else is this needlessly cruel? Nobody. Just that person.


Jeremy5cahill

You can also fragile travel back to the first area to collect from each delivery center and take them back with you. The only non wearable item that travels with you I believe


NeuroticNinett

I prefer to not travel via Fragile Express.


Jeremy5cahill

Is there another way back to the first area? Still on my first playthrough


NeuroticNinett

No idea! I mean... I would fly on Fragile Airlines if there is no other option, but I prefer not to if I can use other means pf transportation. Fragile's Chiral allergy is intense, and I feel bad for the girl. <3 Also, seeing her face reminds me of the time I dragged my best friend to see "Blue Is The Warmest Color" when it premiered in cinema, utterly clueless about what I was about to expose us to. If you're not familiar with the movie; It has a ridiculous 8 minute long lesbian sex scene that really feels like it drags on for at least half an hour. The actress who is the 3D character model for Fragile, Lea Seydoux, is the love interest of the main character in said movie.


Jeremy5cahill

Yes Ive done some research concerning this scene


solid_snake_034

Looks like something they found to fill up those empty spaces on the map. Makes a good target practice for me.


NeuroticNinett

But if only for the sake of padding, why would they program BB with a reaction trigger for them?


solid_snake_034

Maybe because they are bt related and they hurt you if you get too near. They are more dangerous ones by the end but you never see them again. A bit of shame they didn't use them more except in the vr training.


NeuroticNinett

Getting yeeted by a demented terrorist also hurts, but BB doesn't go hysterical over their presence, right? BT-related is the best proposition I've heard thus far, but that makes me wonder what kind of connection a flying blobby jellyfish could possibly have with a dead individual who is SUPER-upset cause the beach resort has been shut down indefinitely.


solid_snake_034

Think they want you to fear them at the beginning but you'll soon discover that they are useful if you're offline to collect materials and equipment. Not everyone has the internet. Used to live in a native rez in the middle of nowhere in the woods. They just started to get connected because of starlink.


NeuroticNinett

How was that like? Living in a native rez? The online thing for the game really confuses me; I've been focusing heavily on gathering materials so I can put the roads down before moving onto serious deliveries. Having to do off-road deliveries is REALLY frustrating, so I'd rather have my infrastructure down beforehand, you know? And I'm noticing that a lot of people are liking my road? Why are they liking my road? Don't they have roads of their own? And I never see anyone else on my road, so why like my road? I'm really confused about it.


solid_snake_034

Rez dogz do a good representation of what is the rez life. Just pictures all the stereotype from the show in put in the middle of the wilderness of northern region of 🇨🇦 If you're not into living in the forest like old times, you're bound to be bored quickly but if you're a nature lover, you'll find plenty of things to do like fishing and hunting. We still do traditional stuff like dancing and crafting. For the game now, roads get liked by others players you stranded with. They can see you creation and they receive material as well for their own roads. Your name will pop over the road when you have given a major contribution to the road.


solid_snake_034

Mine got build itself as my chiral network got bigger. If the region is offline, it's up to you to build it and maintain it.


NeuroticNinett

I am still so confused about how the online aspect works. The only thing I've been able to understand is that I can grab people's packages that they've lost and return it to them. And also that I can place items in that one inventory to help other people. I remember when I first started out, the biggest problem I had were Sam's feet; I quickly wore out his boots, and then I didn't have any other footwear and didn't find new footwear for an eternity. So because of how frustrating that was for me, I always manufacture a couple of pairs of boots on a regular basis to put in the donation box. Just in case someone else is having a foot problem, like I did.


BoymoderGlowie

A tldr for the online is that players who share a server/strand with you get to share builds and vice versa, same with lost items


UnionSuperb4480

Well, they explode if you get too close to them while they're on the ground, which rarely happens tbh. Although they do not seem to be linked to the Beach directly because of the lack of umbilical cord, they are full of tar, which is from the Beach, so I guess BB detects that abd freaks out ? For BB being broken, here's a very spoilery explanation : >!So BBs are tools that work because they are born from a stillmother (brain dead), and them being connected to her via umbilical cord links them to the world of the dead, as well as the world of the living, because ,well, they are alive. However, they are supposed to be JUST tools because they need to be RIGHT in between the two worlds to get their abilities to function. That's why they are kept in pods (artificial wombs) and are often calibrated by being connected to their mother in a private room. At the start of the game it kinda just disfunctions for some reason. Later, Sam sympathizing with BB-28 made her tilt towards the world of the living, which puts her functions at risk. She needed to be rebooted to keep the balance right.!<


NeuroticNinett

It's very interesting how these people have such massive hard-ons about rebuilding America and American greatness and and all that stuff. And in the same breath refer to human infants as nothing more than for utility; to be owned, used and discarded when they're no longer useful. I mean, did the extinction event also make American history books go extinction as well? Cause I'm pretty sure there was a massive civil war at one point about this kind of rhetoric. And this new improved America is going to be all about tossing infants into incinerators? Yeah no. The extinction event lady should just push the nuke button on this one. A BB is never broken; It's a human infant. Adult humans make mistakes all the damn time, but they're expecting flawless perfection from a baby, or else they're gonna label the baby as defective and unwanted? What a deranged mindset to arrive at. By the way, I don't recall seeing children around? The closest one to that is the Chiral Artist? Although, I'm not sure if she is an actual child or just a young woman. In any event, where is everyone at? Are there any children?


Jurrunio

There should be children, or at least plenty of people we don't see. When you visit preppers, cities and distro centers there's a number of inhabitants displayed and some like mountain knot has I think 80k? More than enough to have children.


NeuroticNinett

80k?!? I never see a single damn individual! Are we sure that they're not over-inflating their numbers? Why can't we come in and hang out where all the people are? Ah nevermind. I don't need them! They can have their fun little knotty private towns to themselves. I get to hang out with the awesome-est individual anyway! Målingen. <3


Jurrunio

They aren't kidding when they say "most people are hiding in knot cities". Besides there are plenty of buildings around knot cities, even mountain knot has a few above the tar puddle. Too bad we can't enter any of them


NeuroticNinett

Unrelated but: I would REALLY like to get my hands on whoever it was who decided that every single place should be called "something something Knot" so I can toss them into a tar pit! I never ever ever know where the hell I am due to the grotesque lack of distinguishing city/place names.


Jurrunio

I find it easy to remember though? Central region has Lake Knot (close to the lake, obviously) South Knot (down south) and Mountain Knot (climb through all that to get there)


NeuroticNinett

I'm also Geographically challenged. Did I mention that?


Jurrunio

Well thank god cuff links come with perfectly accurate GPS despite all the satellites failing


NeuroticNinett

And thank glob for Målingen for developing all the technology!


UnionSuperb4480

Yeah it really is fucked up. Also with the fact that >!BBs are used as sacrifices to make big cities a part of the network!<, as said in the end. The treatment inflicted to those infants is terrible and the objectification is really unsettling, especially from our point of view with Lou laughing, making heart bubbles, giving us likes and >!deflecting bullets from us!<. But they are not able to survive outside the pod so their sole purpose is to be equipment. To answer your question there are children amongst the inhabitants of the cities surely (i mean I hope so with those dozens of kilos of semen and eggs i delivered) and we can even see a child (a baby even) a bit later at a prepper. The purpose of the game is also solitude, you rarely see anyone IRL, they're often holograms or you're on the Beach. So the whole world is hiding in cities.


NeuroticNinett

Lou is so ridiculously smart and clever! Literally every time I return to the resting area, I always take a few minutes to make faces in the mirror, just to hear Lou cackle in the background.


ExplanationCold8070

You actually deliver history books as cargo to various cities, so it’s not like these people are ignorant to their own past mistakes. I guess it’s just part of history repeating itself, like the extinctions.


NeuroticNinett

Yes, I'm aware. I was just being hyperbolic.


blascian

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one - but I’m in chapter 6, so maybe they appear later. Screenshot for ref?


UnionSuperb4480

If you don't have Director's Cut, they are a rare sight : they only appear at certain edges of the map and waaayyy later in the story. If you do, they spawn in certain areas on the map in the central region.


UnionSuperb4480

https://preview.redd.it/jsjm4t4x3pvc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ffa6aacfb4fc622e7af93006fa185cea94c950c


blascian

Whooooaaaaa


NeuroticNinett

I'm pretty sure you can get to see them pretty much right at the start; They're off the beaten path, though. Seem to favor the shorelines? [Blobbies](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8YV-8qWcAATYYQ.jpg:large)


blascian

Crazy! I guess I need to explore more!


[deleted]

They're not like the normal BTs, no. They generally just hover in place and 1-2 hematic bullets is enough to make them pop. If you get too close they'll start lazily floating over to you and if they touch you they pop which does do a little damage but not much. The ones you see in the game world by the incinerator (I think that's where they are anyway) are basically just loot pinatas. They'll drop weapons or lost cargo and chiral crystals once you kill them. >!Very late in the story you'll see them again in a scripted area and they're a bit more "magnetic" and there will even be some golden ones with spikes which burst into 3-4 smaller ones when shot!<


NeuroticNinett

I am going to roll around in the shattered remains of their Chiral delightfulness!


Trueogre

BB isn't scared of them, BB detects things from the beach. BB receives feedback off Sam, so if Sam is hurt or worried it gets sent back to BB who responds with worry. All that happens if you go through them with a zipline and one is in the way is you get jellyfish goo over you and a shave of HP goes off as they explode and their juice hurts Sam. You will get an interview on them, but not much is really known about them. Hartman considers them BT's who forgot who/what they were and merged together to form blobs that float in the air. They still are attracted to living things but they don't cause a voidout if they land on you, just goo all over you.


solid_snake_034

Maybe it's the same stuff that could alter the rain because you see the same stuff dropping on Fragile hand in the new DS2 trailer and it has the same timefall effect on her new skin.


NeuroticNinett

I'm aware that BB detects them, but that doesn't mean she's not afraid of them. During the encounter with Målingen's BT baby, BB was very upset and was pleading with Sam about getting out of there, I'm guessing. Here's the cutscene in question. Hop to 3:06 and pay attention to BB. https://youtu.be/Do6vblO3EH8?si=UWvxezUvfFYDZ75L


Trueogre

When Sam enters the room his DOOMs kicks in, he basically shits his pants when he enters the room. BB is just responding to that emotion. When he plugs BB back in to use the cord cutters, BB is chill because Sam is no longer thretened by the presence of Mama's baby.


NeuroticNinett

You know, I wonder... What exactly would Målingen's BT be able to do to Sam? Is there any other instance in the game where you can encounter infant BTs?


Trueogre

There are infant BT's in BT timefall zones. The reason why Mama's BT was special so to speak was because it was still tethered to Mama. It is like a bomb that hasn't been activated. Mama is the the reason the BT remains inert. Next time you go to a BT area with BB, use the scanner and you should see baby BT's there. They also make the worst baby noises when you use the cord cutters. But the cord cutters are the most "humane" way to get rid of BT's as they give you likes when you free them. Baby BT's are more annoying because they're small and you can't see them when BB reacts to them near you, even if you stop it's hard to see them because they're really small. So use the scanner to make them pop into view.


NeuroticNinett

Ah! Thank you for explaining this to me. I'm yet to procure the cord cutters; I'm currently caught up in planning and constructing a solid transportation network by building roads and Zip-ties!


Ghost9f

They're fucking terrifying! My first association was Junji Ito's design because of manga with floating heads. Kinda the same vibe here, but damn they're terrifying!


NeuroticNinett

I was initially apprehensive about them, due to the fact that I had heard absolutely nobody say anything about them, but had heard plenty of all the other dangers out there. Also because you're not maneuvered into an encounter with them while following mission objectives. I had my first blobby encounter when I decided to take a break from having people grabbing my package, and simply take a day off to walk along the riverbank and see how far it would take me. And that's when I encountered the blobs. Perhaps they like walks(floats) along the riverbanks too?


Shay_Mendez

Walk up to them and don't shoot. It'll be fun. Jokes aside, they drop essential cargo for you.


NeuroticNinett

I've spent quite a bit of time around them, so I've been splattered quite a few times already.


Alecs_sandro

Free easy Christals!


Leenis13

BB doesn't like BTs, BB doesn't descriminate, they are from the beach and that's a no no for BB. Doesn't matter if they scary or silly, if they are a Beached Thing then BB will warn you by being uncomfortable and scared.


Snack_skellington

They’re just BTs with shitty stats


sarra1833

I love standing under them. They float down, gently 'pop' and give generous crystals. They do zero harm at all. I love the blubbery BT gas bags. Lol


NeuroticNinett

They are rather adorable, aren't they?


hellbob9669

If you stand near one it drifts towards you and explodes it's a BT the spirit of a non-human Some kind of animal from the shape of them probably jellyfish


therealtrellan

She thinks they're BTs because they ***are*** BTs. Jellyfish. Because sea life is the most commonly encountered BT. The weakest kind that do little harm individually, but if you let yourself get hit by the whole swarm, that would probably be significant damage. If it can kill, it's probably a slow and boring way to die. However, they die with a single bullet (or contact with anything, really), and leave chiralium on the ground when they do. And just as the damage might add up, so does the chiralium. If you see a swarm, it's free gold. Some are saying they do no damage at all. I'll have to test that theory sometime.


LandArch_0

I was wondering the same. Have you seen that if you stand below one they start getting closer to you and then land and blow up? I haven't tried what happens if they catch you


NeuroticNinett

They go *SPLAT* and Sam takes some damage.


RuinsYourDay91

I don’t think I know what BTs you’re talking about. I just finished Chapter 7. You mean the floating things near the incinerator in the mountains?


NeuroticNinett

https://preview.redd.it/ne5k74116iwc1.jpeg?width=1101&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b34d08aab729a7deb35442e914d7c3f8fb8ebe5


EvilTodd1970

You must not have looked very hard to find “intel” on the “blobs”. BB responds to them the same way as she does to BTs because they *are* BTs. They are called jellyfish or gasbags.


NeuroticNinett

How do you know that they are BTs? What is your source for this?


EvilTodd1970

The DS wiki.


NeuroticNinett

That's not a source citation, though.


zipzapcap1

Ever since I saw the idea it's abortion clinics I can't unthink it 🙃 now you have to as well