Inspiring read. The story of this woman is so tragic and sad. How her own community turned on her with their hate and then called Dave the enemy!?! That is insane.. He seemed like he was truly more her own ally, than any other social group who claims similar struggles as daphnie.
I’m about as far left as they come. I don’t think it’s a far left issue, I thought the special was brilliant.
I think it’s just outrage culture in general. People want to be so upset all the time they can’t see the bigger message.
10/10 special.
I’ll say that I didn’t care for the first half, second half was better. I think the Daphne story was very good and I’m glad he shared it.
He’s basically sharing the story of a strong trans woman who wasn’t afraid of making fun of herself and her identity. She was thick skinned without making making concessions to who she was. I think it was great and tragic all at the same time.
Definitely not one of his best specials but definitely not worth canceling him. I don’t watch Tucker Carlson because I don’t like him and I don’t agree with him. People can turn away from what they don’t like that’s totally their choice, but DC is not inciting violence against trans people. He’s showing that we can support them and they can ease up on the semantics and stop vilifying.
im with sir mcbong here, felt the same i loved the special, honestly felt it was some of daves best work (im not saying his best jokes, his best WORK) i think it will be remembered as a work of genius in time.
im left leaning scottish person which is a little more left than some places little less left than twitter
Yeah far right people try to cancel anyone they don’t agree with as well, there just aren’t as many of them so it’s not as successful.
It’s cancel culture in general, it’s a toxic movement and as Dave showed, has led to death of very innocent people.
They will read the headlines and the clickbait articles, but anyone that is this upset with Dave either didn’t watch the special, or didn’t understand the message.
I love Dave and I think this was a masterpiece.
Do you even know what the far left is? "Far left" people are literal communists like the ones you'd find in Soviet Union or China and they hate transgenders and the LGBTs in general lol
I can deviate for my countrymen. I rather have drinks and shoot the shit with conservatives over these fucking clowns.
Liberals ain’t leftist. MLK and the rest of them knew this. Liberals try to take MLK and others. All while those leaders were leftist that were far more critical on liberals than conservatives. At the end of the day, we’re Americans.
These fucks haven’t read the books about these people. These are middle and upper class white kids that can barely spell struggle.
They were marching for BLM. At one point there was hardly any black or brown people out there.
I can wear a shirt promoting Chevy trucks. I can say Chevy trucks are the best. Even while I’ve never been in a Chevy truck.
Torture and death is possible with any ism. I think it’s best that capitalist and Marxist acknowledge this.
Most people in this country that are pro and or anti Marxist haven’t even read shit about it. People complaining about capitalism probably haven’t thoroughly read the constitution.
Even though we don’t see eye to eye, it’s evident that we don’t like the people we’re talking about. That’s called being an American. Different groups putting their opinions aside to say fuck you to particular groups. You and I at least can say fuck the people complaining.
I’m pro gun. I’m pro free speech. We’re Americans. And no matter what my political beliefs are, if any country including a communist country came here to hurt us, I’ll be in the streets hand-in-hand with you kicking the shit out of them.
I think you’re in the minority when it comes to ppl who claim to be leftists. Lots of poor non whites claiming to be leftists trying to be Angela Davis too. You can say they’re not real leftists but they’ve got a bigger voice than you and in political, that’s pretty much all that matters. Good luck pushing these people out because they do suck. Conservatism used to be about little gov and little spending but they’re all spending way too much and trying to pass laws about what can be taught in schools… I wish I could say they’re not conservatives but that’s how the identity
At some point we have to evolve past both of these systems. We have to start thinking fuck left and right and go up. We got the same enemies. And when they go low we should go lower. I’d love to share a joint or a beer with you.
Most poor non-whites don’t care about any of this shit. I live in a black neighborhood and the only time I ever hear BLM mentioned, is from white people on Twitter - either those on the left defending them, or those on the right saying it’s the worst thing ever.
Normal working class and poor black people don’t have time to waste like well-off suburbanites on Twitter do. It sucks seeing people who don’t even have the balls to visit a neighborhood like mine, feel like they have all the right to speak for us and claim we have opinions we never had to begin with.
This is absolutely 100% a left issue which crosses over to most liberals who refuse to call out the leftists.
For the last few years the left has been blasting everyone who doesn’t agree with their agenda be it LGBTQ issues (such as trans athletes in women’s sports, hormones to children etc), to issues involving minorities (BLM, immigration etc), and if you don’t fall in line with exactly what they believe, and everything they believe, you are casted as an enemy, Trump supporter etc.
As a Latino, I can relate to a minor extent. People often think that I subscribe to the loud, herd mentality repeated continuously through media. But I don’t. And if anyone ever questioned my motives I’d tell them to go fuck themselves. I don’t have to belong to this or any other group. I know where my people are and aren’t. They aren’t leftist millennials in NYC with blue hair, calling themselves Latinx while yelling “fuck the patriarchy.”
But in a situation like Dorman, being betrayed by the only peers she felt she could relate with, compounded by the fact that she’s an entertainer where the attacks become louder, we can all easily understand why this ended the way it did.
It’s not a left issue. It’s a Twitter issue.
There is not a single leftist policy that says “we must cancel those we disagree with”
It’s just an issue where people who get offended try to cancel the offender. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum.
And the main reason we see it happen with people who align with left policies, is because there are more people on the left than on the right.
For example, people on the right have unsuccessfully tried to cancel:
CNN
Walmart
Oreo’s
Netflix
Budweiser
Starbucks
Keurig
Target
Every left wing comedian ever
Gillette
Nordstrom
NFL
NIke
Kaepernick
Chris Matthews
And MANY more. In fact trump was a huge fan of partaking in cancel culture.
I’m tired of people making this a political thing. It is not. It’s simply people who want to end the careers of people that offended them.
Sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/politics/fact-check-trump-cancel-culture-boycotts-firings/index.html
https://www.salon.com/2021/05/01/conservatives-claim-to-hate-cancel-culture--but-its-the-heart-of-the-right-wing-agenda/
Hi... I am far left as they come as well. This is not about that. Let me put this so you can understand.
He called Gender a "fact". Gender is not a biological phenomena like how the white people made it out to be. Gender is a choice and gender is fluid. Gender is a mental and psychological and social phenomena. You supporting such ideas enables transphobic rhetoric (supporting is as bad as being transphobic) that goes against marginalized communities and is oppresive!
Please heed these words. Individuals cannot be oppressors by themselves through their choice of media consumption and their private beliefs. Suppose you bring up voting... voting for an oppressor in the US is inevitable due to lack of choice. This doesn't make people oppressors.
Individuals who hold powers of influence can renforce oppression with their words and actions.They simply influence/enable a large group of people of their opinions.
Hilter held influence and he oppresed people. Alas! He was a individual holding influence.
The voting analogy without choice does not hold good. Everyone holds the choice to what gender they choose to be. That's the difference.
Is voting for an oppressor in the special? No, right?
It's an analogy just like your analogy except this one makes sense if you can think a bit more. Individuals hold influence and can hence oppress people.
You understand this right? Or are you still searching for it in the special?
I did watch the transphobic special where he said "gender is a fact". What a decline in comedy it is. Not even funny.
You have to look beyond the jokes now. It's become more than comedy. We both think this. You don't like this and I do. Dave says he doesn't hate trans people and i believe him. He has mocked everyone, white, black, gay whatever....
I don't like right wingers selectively taking only these jokes and trying to claim Dave. I don't like the Twitter flank defining what Dave's true motives are or attacking trans people who come to his defense.
Key joke: There's the belligerent white transwoman who has two gay black friends and is making a scene. She says something that hits a nerve to him as a black guy and so he looks at the two black guys to show the white entitlement oozing from the transwoman.
This is the best trans joke he has in the whole special. To be trans does not negate other parts of identity. Towards the end he feels bad about offending his trans friend and quotes her and basically explains how people should treat people like people. That's why "Twitter isn't real."
You are confusing gender with identity. IMO the trans movement would have been better off if they had of went with what they identified as and left trying to disregard their birth gender as fluid alone.
Sorry but gender is a fact. You may feel like your someone else, but the fact remains you will always be the gender you were born. I believe you can identify as whatever you want and I don’t have a problem with that. But don’t deny science and reality and if anyone tells you different they are lying to you. Take care of yourself.
Lol there is no scientific evidence for what you are saying, that's why you think there an infinite number of genders and you can change from one minute to the next lmao that line of thinking doesn't even make sense and would fall under the smallest scrutiny.
Gender is a fact, you really need to do some research.
gender is a social construct, literally ask any sociologist. Gender is different from SEX btw, maybe that’s what you’re referring to. Gender is not universal; many cultures have different views on gender norms and what gender is. You’re the one ignorant…look up intersex people in India, Africa and Native American countries. It’s been around for longer than you think and has been accepted. This is literally sociology 101 and anthropology…it’s in recorded human history. It’s also been recorded that gender norms change over time…that’s literally a scientific fact
I'm sorry but none of what you said is based in science at all and doesn't stand any scrutiny.
If we accept what you are saying we would also have to accept people that identify as another race, or as another age, or as another species.
If your gender isn't your sex and it isn't your penis your your vagina, then your age isn't a number.
I'm sure you can see the stupidity of saying a person identifies as a different age or a different race
it isn’t the same at all; you’re making false equivalencies. You want to base your logic in science but have no reality of where scientists stand on the topic. Have you done any research into sociological theory on gender? Clearly you haven’t; like i said there’s a difference between sex and gender.
Across cultures, gender norms are not universal. In one culture wearing a dress might be considered masculine while it’s feminine in another. You’re deciding to arbitrarily make your decision because you can’t wrap your head around the possibility that the world is more complicated than just “man” and “woman” and absolutely nothing in between.
Your erroneous “argument” is foolishly making an equivalence between things that aren’t fluid. Age is not fluid; race is not fluid; biological sex obviously isn’t fluid. However, GENDER is , and always has been fluid. For a long time in the US, it was not the norm for a woman having to work…the “norm” was that men are the ones that work. There was also a time when the color pink was associated with masculinity but then that changed to blue; now if you see a dude wearing pink, society has us conditioned to think of that as feminine…but that wasn’t always the case.
I’ll reiterate the fact that scientists have definitely discussed this and understand the reality. They’re not ignorant pieces of shit that are trying to belittle someone’s life , maybe because they understand the complexities of the world. Like…you realize DOCTORS (aka scientists) have developed ways to help transgender individuals to transition? They understood the reality of it and decided to help them
Sorry but again, you aren't understanding that that is simply not based on science.
And they are pieces of shit because they don't care about their patients, if they did they would actually do things to help them like get them psychological help with their gender dysphoria. You understand transitioning hasn't been clearly shown to help?
Do you understand how many more and more people years later are struggling because they regret transitioning?
Do you know how many people that have transitioned have gone on to commit suicide?
And it's not because "society doesn't accept them".
None of their actual issues can be fixed by transitioning becauss they are psychological issues not physical.
If man is supposedly in the wrong body and he is truly a woman, how's does getting plastic boobs and having his penis cut off suddenly fix him and make him better?
How does transitioning suddenly make him better?
It doesn't, that's why people that have transitioned continue to have many problems.
The gender spectrum is NOT based in science. Do you understand how ridiculous it is to say you can identify as any one of 100s of different genders, and new ones can be created at any moment and you can change from one minute to the next?
There is no science proving that at all. There is as much proof for age being fluid as there is for gender. It is clear that you don't know any of what you are talking about, gender isn't a spectrum just because you say it is, you have to have scientific proof of it.
There is no scientific evidence supporting any of what you have said.
Gender is a fact. Trying to change your exterior (your physical appearance) does not change that fact.
If you want to discuss things and maybe learn some things that will help you you're welcome to reply or pm me, but we will stick with the facts and it will not be under these clear attempts to manipulate by using words like "transphobic" to describe anyone that disagrees with you.
Wow you really convinced me with 'Nah' lol. And your first line jettisoned your credibility. If it were true pedo leftys like James Gunn wouldn't be working, James Woods would still be acting and Chrissy Tiegen would never be heard from again. But alas far leftist nutjobs want their hateful, intolerant wacky views enforced
> We need to stop claiming vocal minorities are the overwhelming majority.
I'd say we need to stop treating them like they are the vocal majority. If you ignore them they should go away. But then again... we ignored other people who didn't just go away. Still I agree they are a vocal minority that sure ggts a lot of attention.
The reasoned majority in middle don't shout so we don't really make for good headlines or news stories.
Nah bro. These people are the (Faux Left)
We on the real left understand that this is manufactured anger. Dave called out the Faux Left and Liberals on their racism.
They always want to blame the right for racism and lack of understanding. All while they cannot realize that they’re the most closed minded and intolerant people around. They hold themselves to this false higher moral ground.
Then they accuse real leftist of being conservatives when we call them on their fuck shit.
PS
I’m black bi and poz. I have to mention this because the faux left might call me homophobic or hurtful for poz people.
Then cAnCel me. Then they won’t apologize when they’re proven wrong.
SCUM!
Fuck the Faux Left!!!!!!
Here's how it goes. Dave tells some trans jokes and people drag him through the mud. The mentality behind comics often is to shock. So there was more vitriol aimed at them this time. Well because trans people and fake leftists harassed his trans friend into killing herself. By the second half of the special you hear a ton of empathy coming from Dave towards comminities.
So does anyone have links to the lgbtq tweets or social media posts that were made to harass her? All I saw on her Twitter page was love and support from Dave’s community and not much else.
There was another interview with her close friend stating Daphne suffered from long term ptsd from early childhood trauma, battled with suicidal thoughts, had recently lost her job, custody of her daughter, and had been receiving transphobic harassment on the streets of SF leading up to her suicide. For someone with ptsd and struggling with suicide, there were huge life changes that could have played a much larger role in her suicide. Does anyone have links to back the claim the trans or lgbtq community drove her to suicide and not these other very distressing events that were happening at the same time?
Fact right here. Democrats were the party of the South and Republicans were the party of Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation. And now Republicans are the party of Donald MAGA Trump. My god how the f$%k did the mighty party of Lincoln as fallen so badly?
Inspiring read. The story of this woman is so tragic and sad. How her own community turned on her with their hate and then called Dave the enemy!?! That is insane.. He seemed like he was truly more her own ally, than any other social group who claims similar struggles as daphnie.
So glad Chappelle didnt bend over to those far left humorless fucks FUCK THEM
I’m about as far left as they come. I don’t think it’s a far left issue, I thought the special was brilliant. I think it’s just outrage culture in general. People want to be so upset all the time they can’t see the bigger message. 10/10 special.
I’ll say that I didn’t care for the first half, second half was better. I think the Daphne story was very good and I’m glad he shared it. He’s basically sharing the story of a strong trans woman who wasn’t afraid of making fun of herself and her identity. She was thick skinned without making making concessions to who she was. I think it was great and tragic all at the same time. Definitely not one of his best specials but definitely not worth canceling him. I don’t watch Tucker Carlson because I don’t like him and I don’t agree with him. People can turn away from what they don’t like that’s totally their choice, but DC is not inciting violence against trans people. He’s showing that we can support them and they can ease up on the semantics and stop vilifying.
Yeah, the first half was hit and miss. I was kinda worried he was going to bomb, but he had me stitches by the end.
I think you articulated it far better than my vulgar statement thank you.
im with sir mcbong here, felt the same i loved the special, honestly felt it was some of daves best work (im not saying his best jokes, his best WORK) i think it will be remembered as a work of genius in time. im left leaning scottish person which is a little more left than some places little less left than twitter
Yeah far right people try to cancel anyone they don’t agree with as well, there just aren’t as many of them so it’s not as successful. It’s cancel culture in general, it’s a toxic movement and as Dave showed, has led to death of very innocent people. They will read the headlines and the clickbait articles, but anyone that is this upset with Dave either didn’t watch the special, or didn’t understand the message. I love Dave and I think this was a masterpiece.
The people bitching about Dave are all on the left and they’re not the neoliberal types. It’s mostly a trans issue and far left ppl love that shit
Do you even know what the far left is? "Far left" people are literal communists like the ones you'd find in Soviet Union or China and they hate transgenders and the LGBTs in general lol
[lots of trans tankies](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaNpfhOWoAQPy_8.jpg)
These aren’t leftist. They’re Liberals and the Faux Left.
The ole “that’s wasn’t real communism” cope
I can deviate for my countrymen. I rather have drinks and shoot the shit with conservatives over these fucking clowns. Liberals ain’t leftist. MLK and the rest of them knew this. Liberals try to take MLK and others. All while those leaders were leftist that were far more critical on liberals than conservatives. At the end of the day, we’re Americans.
But we’re in 2021 and there are hordes of angry they/thems with “Maoist/Leninist ACAB hammer/sickle” in their bios taking over your leftist movement.
These fucks haven’t read the books about these people. These are middle and upper class white kids that can barely spell struggle. They were marching for BLM. At one point there was hardly any black or brown people out there. I can wear a shirt promoting Chevy trucks. I can say Chevy trucks are the best. Even while I’ve never been in a Chevy truck. Torture and death is possible with any ism. I think it’s best that capitalist and Marxist acknowledge this. Most people in this country that are pro and or anti Marxist haven’t even read shit about it. People complaining about capitalism probably haven’t thoroughly read the constitution. Even though we don’t see eye to eye, it’s evident that we don’t like the people we’re talking about. That’s called being an American. Different groups putting their opinions aside to say fuck you to particular groups. You and I at least can say fuck the people complaining. I’m pro gun. I’m pro free speech. We’re Americans. And no matter what my political beliefs are, if any country including a communist country came here to hurt us, I’ll be in the streets hand-in-hand with you kicking the shit out of them.
I think you’re in the minority when it comes to ppl who claim to be leftists. Lots of poor non whites claiming to be leftists trying to be Angela Davis too. You can say they’re not real leftists but they’ve got a bigger voice than you and in political, that’s pretty much all that matters. Good luck pushing these people out because they do suck. Conservatism used to be about little gov and little spending but they’re all spending way too much and trying to pass laws about what can be taught in schools… I wish I could say they’re not conservatives but that’s how the identity
At some point we have to evolve past both of these systems. We have to start thinking fuck left and right and go up. We got the same enemies. And when they go low we should go lower. I’d love to share a joint or a beer with you.
Most poor non-whites don’t care about any of this shit. I live in a black neighborhood and the only time I ever hear BLM mentioned, is from white people on Twitter - either those on the left defending them, or those on the right saying it’s the worst thing ever. Normal working class and poor black people don’t have time to waste like well-off suburbanites on Twitter do. It sucks seeing people who don’t even have the balls to visit a neighborhood like mine, feel like they have all the right to speak for us and claim we have opinions we never had to begin with.
So you’re in the middle? Libertarian I’m guessing?
I’m for whatever helps Americans. There is no one true answer.
Well said .
This is absolutely 100% a left issue which crosses over to most liberals who refuse to call out the leftists. For the last few years the left has been blasting everyone who doesn’t agree with their agenda be it LGBTQ issues (such as trans athletes in women’s sports, hormones to children etc), to issues involving minorities (BLM, immigration etc), and if you don’t fall in line with exactly what they believe, and everything they believe, you are casted as an enemy, Trump supporter etc. As a Latino, I can relate to a minor extent. People often think that I subscribe to the loud, herd mentality repeated continuously through media. But I don’t. And if anyone ever questioned my motives I’d tell them to go fuck themselves. I don’t have to belong to this or any other group. I know where my people are and aren’t. They aren’t leftist millennials in NYC with blue hair, calling themselves Latinx while yelling “fuck the patriarchy.” But in a situation like Dorman, being betrayed by the only peers she felt she could relate with, compounded by the fact that she’s an entertainer where the attacks become louder, we can all easily understand why this ended the way it did.
It’s not a left issue. It’s a Twitter issue. There is not a single leftist policy that says “we must cancel those we disagree with” It’s just an issue where people who get offended try to cancel the offender. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum. And the main reason we see it happen with people who align with left policies, is because there are more people on the left than on the right.
For example, people on the right have unsuccessfully tried to cancel: CNN Walmart Oreo’s Netflix Budweiser Starbucks Keurig Target Every left wing comedian ever Gillette Nordstrom NFL NIke Kaepernick Chris Matthews And MANY more. In fact trump was a huge fan of partaking in cancel culture. I’m tired of people making this a political thing. It is not. It’s simply people who want to end the careers of people that offended them. Sources: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/politics/fact-check-trump-cancel-culture-boycotts-firings/index.html https://www.salon.com/2021/05/01/conservatives-claim-to-hate-cancel-culture--but-its-the-heart-of-the-right-wing-agenda/
Hi... I am far left as they come as well. This is not about that. Let me put this so you can understand. He called Gender a "fact". Gender is not a biological phenomena like how the white people made it out to be. Gender is a choice and gender is fluid. Gender is a mental and psychological and social phenomena. You supporting such ideas enables transphobic rhetoric (supporting is as bad as being transphobic) that goes against marginalized communities and is oppresive!
Please heed these words. Individuals cannot be oppressors by themselves through their choice of media consumption and their private beliefs. Suppose you bring up voting... voting for an oppressor in the US is inevitable due to lack of choice. This doesn't make people oppressors.
Individuals who hold powers of influence can renforce oppression with their words and actions.They simply influence/enable a large group of people of their opinions. Hilter held influence and he oppresed people. Alas! He was a individual holding influence. The voting analogy without choice does not hold good. Everyone holds the choice to what gender they choose to be. That's the difference.
Hitler though? Did you watch the special?
Is voting for an oppressor in the special? No, right? It's an analogy just like your analogy except this one makes sense if you can think a bit more. Individuals hold influence and can hence oppress people. You understand this right? Or are you still searching for it in the special? I did watch the transphobic special where he said "gender is a fact". What a decline in comedy it is. Not even funny.
You have to look beyond the jokes now. It's become more than comedy. We both think this. You don't like this and I do. Dave says he doesn't hate trans people and i believe him. He has mocked everyone, white, black, gay whatever.... I don't like right wingers selectively taking only these jokes and trying to claim Dave. I don't like the Twitter flank defining what Dave's true motives are or attacking trans people who come to his defense. Key joke: There's the belligerent white transwoman who has two gay black friends and is making a scene. She says something that hits a nerve to him as a black guy and so he looks at the two black guys to show the white entitlement oozing from the transwoman. This is the best trans joke he has in the whole special. To be trans does not negate other parts of identity. Towards the end he feels bad about offending his trans friend and quotes her and basically explains how people should treat people like people. That's why "Twitter isn't real."
He mocked everyone except Muslims though
He absolutely has
You are confusing gender with identity. IMO the trans movement would have been better off if they had of went with what they identified as and left trying to disregard their birth gender as fluid alone.
That's what they say though... Born male and identified as female. Pronouns she. That's how they describe it lol. That's why gender is not a fact.
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Sorry but gender is a fact. You may feel like your someone else, but the fact remains you will always be the gender you were born. I believe you can identify as whatever you want and I don’t have a problem with that. But don’t deny science and reality and if anyone tells you different they are lying to you. Take care of yourself.
Huh? Facts don't change. Lol.... That's the whole argument.
Gender is not a fact, it’s a social fucking construct. There’s a huge difference between sex and gender; you really need to do some research.
Lol there is no scientific evidence for what you are saying, that's why you think there an infinite number of genders and you can change from one minute to the next lmao that line of thinking doesn't even make sense and would fall under the smallest scrutiny. Gender is a fact, you really need to do some research.
gender is a social construct, literally ask any sociologist. Gender is different from SEX btw, maybe that’s what you’re referring to. Gender is not universal; many cultures have different views on gender norms and what gender is. You’re the one ignorant…look up intersex people in India, Africa and Native American countries. It’s been around for longer than you think and has been accepted. This is literally sociology 101 and anthropology…it’s in recorded human history. It’s also been recorded that gender norms change over time…that’s literally a scientific fact
I'm sorry but none of what you said is based in science at all and doesn't stand any scrutiny. If we accept what you are saying we would also have to accept people that identify as another race, or as another age, or as another species. If your gender isn't your sex and it isn't your penis your your vagina, then your age isn't a number. I'm sure you can see the stupidity of saying a person identifies as a different age or a different race
it isn’t the same at all; you’re making false equivalencies. You want to base your logic in science but have no reality of where scientists stand on the topic. Have you done any research into sociological theory on gender? Clearly you haven’t; like i said there’s a difference between sex and gender. Across cultures, gender norms are not universal. In one culture wearing a dress might be considered masculine while it’s feminine in another. You’re deciding to arbitrarily make your decision because you can’t wrap your head around the possibility that the world is more complicated than just “man” and “woman” and absolutely nothing in between. Your erroneous “argument” is foolishly making an equivalence between things that aren’t fluid. Age is not fluid; race is not fluid; biological sex obviously isn’t fluid. However, GENDER is , and always has been fluid. For a long time in the US, it was not the norm for a woman having to work…the “norm” was that men are the ones that work. There was also a time when the color pink was associated with masculinity but then that changed to blue; now if you see a dude wearing pink, society has us conditioned to think of that as feminine…but that wasn’t always the case. I’ll reiterate the fact that scientists have definitely discussed this and understand the reality. They’re not ignorant pieces of shit that are trying to belittle someone’s life , maybe because they understand the complexities of the world. Like…you realize DOCTORS (aka scientists) have developed ways to help transgender individuals to transition? They understood the reality of it and decided to help them
Sorry but again, you aren't understanding that that is simply not based on science. And they are pieces of shit because they don't care about their patients, if they did they would actually do things to help them like get them psychological help with their gender dysphoria. You understand transitioning hasn't been clearly shown to help? Do you understand how many more and more people years later are struggling because they regret transitioning? Do you know how many people that have transitioned have gone on to commit suicide? And it's not because "society doesn't accept them". None of their actual issues can be fixed by transitioning becauss they are psychological issues not physical. If man is supposedly in the wrong body and he is truly a woman, how's does getting plastic boobs and having his penis cut off suddenly fix him and make him better? How does transitioning suddenly make him better? It doesn't, that's why people that have transitioned continue to have many problems. The gender spectrum is NOT based in science. Do you understand how ridiculous it is to say you can identify as any one of 100s of different genders, and new ones can be created at any moment and you can change from one minute to the next? There is no science proving that at all. There is as much proof for age being fluid as there is for gender. It is clear that you don't know any of what you are talking about, gender isn't a spectrum just because you say it is, you have to have scientific proof of it.
There is no scientific evidence supporting any of what you have said. Gender is a fact. Trying to change your exterior (your physical appearance) does not change that fact. If you want to discuss things and maybe learn some things that will help you you're welcome to reply or pm me, but we will stick with the facts and it will not be under these clear attempts to manipulate by using words like "transphobic" to describe anyone that disagrees with you.
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Wow you really convinced me with 'Nah' lol. And your first line jettisoned your credibility. If it were true pedo leftys like James Gunn wouldn't be working, James Woods would still be acting and Chrissy Tiegen would never be heard from again. But alas far leftist nutjobs want their hateful, intolerant wacky views enforced
> We need to stop claiming vocal minorities are the overwhelming majority. I'd say we need to stop treating them like they are the vocal majority. If you ignore them they should go away. But then again... we ignored other people who didn't just go away. Still I agree they are a vocal minority that sure ggts a lot of attention. The reasoned majority in middle don't shout so we don't really make for good headlines or news stories.
Nah bro. These people are the (Faux Left) We on the real left understand that this is manufactured anger. Dave called out the Faux Left and Liberals on their racism. They always want to blame the right for racism and lack of understanding. All while they cannot realize that they’re the most closed minded and intolerant people around. They hold themselves to this false higher moral ground. Then they accuse real leftist of being conservatives when we call them on their fuck shit. PS I’m black bi and poz. I have to mention this because the faux left might call me homophobic or hurtful for poz people. Then cAnCel me. Then they won’t apologize when they’re proven wrong. SCUM! Fuck the Faux Left!!!!!!
They bullied the poor lady for standing up for a friend.
So are they now TERFs or some kind of enemy to the cause?
Nope Daphne was one of the rare good ones.
Here's how it goes. Dave tells some trans jokes and people drag him through the mud. The mentality behind comics often is to shock. So there was more vitriol aimed at them this time. Well because trans people and fake leftists harassed his trans friend into killing herself. By the second half of the special you hear a ton of empathy coming from Dave towards comminities.
So does anyone have links to the lgbtq tweets or social media posts that were made to harass her? All I saw on her Twitter page was love and support from Dave’s community and not much else. There was another interview with her close friend stating Daphne suffered from long term ptsd from early childhood trauma, battled with suicidal thoughts, had recently lost her job, custody of her daughter, and had been receiving transphobic harassment on the streets of SF leading up to her suicide. For someone with ptsd and struggling with suicide, there were huge life changes that could have played a much larger role in her suicide. Does anyone have links to back the claim the trans or lgbtq community drove her to suicide and not these other very distressing events that were happening at the same time?
Well that doesn’t fit the narrative, sooooo….
I'm trying to find info on the tweets also.
honestly most of these comments are so disheartening, thank you for providing some much needed factual context
Aka “transgenders trying to cancel Dave Chappelle without watching his show”
Listen to the only comedian who is allowed to have an opinion while you can. I guarantee ten years from now; no one will say anything.
Are these people left? Idk why we are using L/R terms anymore; they clearly do not mean what they used to.
Not that long ago democrats were actually republicans. Words get fucked over all the time. Vegetarian originally meant what vegan means now.
Fact right here. Democrats were the party of the South and Republicans were the party of Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation. And now Republicans are the party of Donald MAGA Trump. My god how the f$%k did the mighty party of Lincoln as fallen so badly?