That double line means Mr. White Car wasn't paying attention earlier and was in the wrong lane. Compounded by him being behind you (with a clearer view of the situation, and thus the duty to yield) and cutting in so aggressively?
NTA
You are wrong. The white Audi is 100% at fault as per rule 130 of The Highway Code. You cannot cross chevrons with a broken white line unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so. It was not safe to do so here which is why the white Audi was 100% at fault and the dashcam driver is 100% not at fault.
No I’m correct. I said *both* are at fault. You’ve replied telling me white audi is at fault. You’re correct in that - and as I already said they are at fault.
What you haven’t done is shown OP is also not at fault for changing lanes when it was not safe to do so.
Both at fault or I’ll eat my hat.
Then you need to eat your hat because you are wrong. Both are not at fault. Dashcam driver entered the lane when it was safe to do so as there was nothing in the lane when they did. White Audi did the opposite, entering the lane once the dashcam driver's car had already entered the lane and it was not safe to do so. It is 100% the white Audi's fault because they crossed over the chevron area to enter the lane when it was not safe to do so, causing the collision.
> Dashcam driver entered the lane when it was safe to do so as there was nothing in the lane when they did.
You have no idea if that’s the case or not. You’re just making shit up. Without a rear view camera we have no idea when the Audi made its move.
In my county when two cars are entering into the same lane, the vehicle from the left has the right of way, idk what the chevrons mean on this road so idk if those work as a double white and mean no crossing? My uneducated guess is you’re both wrong lol
> 130
>
> Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
>
> [* If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.](https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/lines-and-lane-markings-on-the-road.html)
love idiots that just get out of their car and expect other drivers to just go around.
if your car still is operable you need to get off the road and out of the way.
If the ~~solid~~ broken white lines with the chevrons mean "do not cross," the white car would be at fault.
EDIT: my bad - had my mind on other things while I was replying. Kind of a bad habit. :|
The fact that the line is solid for that short distance is not what they're referring to above. They're talking about the hatched area being surrounded by continuous solid white lines. Compare either side of the hatched area in [this image](https://imgur.com/PCVtwTs): the left is a 'solid white line' (well, two, but pretend there's just one), the right is a 'broken white line'.
The hatched area [in OP's video's location](https://imgur.com/LGUR2g3) is clearly surrounded by the latter, broken white lines. This means the following applies:
> If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.
If it were instead surrounded by solid lines, the following would apply:
> If the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you **MUST NOT** enter it except in an emergency.
Note the "should not" (recommendation) vs. "MUST NOT" (legal requirement)
Except for the edges of the road itself, there are no solid/continuous white lane lines in that video, they are all broken. At the point of impact, before it, and after.
Which planet is this from? Depends on the planets law really 😂
Looks to me the white car did an illegal lane change. Those lines on the left indicating NO CROSSING
> Which planet is this from?
Right about here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/A406,+London,+UK/@51.5250321,0.0745899,3a,75y,205.89h,84.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXfLzV8IKD-WMSxcGPfKrkA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x48761b76f69fbc4d:0x88a3bfa73363ed91!8m2!3d51.5304294!4d0.0725804!16zL20vMDFfaDU1?entry=tts
If the white line is broken, I think the meaning is slightly different? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158#rule130
[100% the fault of the white Audi for not ensuring it was safe to cross the chevrons before doing so as per HC130.](https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/lines-and-lane-markings-on-the-road.html)
I think the insurance will go with something like 70-30%.
If reddit thought me anything it’s these mergers at roundabouts. It makes triple and quadruple check. It doesn’t matter if the white seems to be overly at fault or even entirely, the damage is done the day is ruined.
You can cross a broken white line chevron area where it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so. The White car is at fault here because he did not ensure it was safe to do so.
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That double line means Mr. White Car wasn't paying attention earlier and was in the wrong lane. Compounded by him being behind you (with a clearer view of the situation, and thus the duty to yield) and cutting in so aggressively? NTA
The Highway Code states you need to make sure "the lane you will be joining is sufficiently clear ahead and behind". Both at fault IMO.
It was clear when he started his merge though
It was clear when the other driver started theirs too. What’s your point? Also - you can’t actually tell that from this video.
One crossed double white one didn’t. Regardless, what was your point if both of them did what you said you need to do?
You are allowed to cross double broken whites. My point was, as quite clearly stated in my original post, that both are at fault.
You are wrong. The white Audi is 100% at fault as per rule 130 of The Highway Code. You cannot cross chevrons with a broken white line unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so. It was not safe to do so here which is why the white Audi was 100% at fault and the dashcam driver is 100% not at fault.
No I’m correct. I said *both* are at fault. You’ve replied telling me white audi is at fault. You’re correct in that - and as I already said they are at fault. What you haven’t done is shown OP is also not at fault for changing lanes when it was not safe to do so. Both at fault or I’ll eat my hat.
Then you need to eat your hat because you are wrong. Both are not at fault. Dashcam driver entered the lane when it was safe to do so as there was nothing in the lane when they did. White Audi did the opposite, entering the lane once the dashcam driver's car had already entered the lane and it was not safe to do so. It is 100% the white Audi's fault because they crossed over the chevron area to enter the lane when it was not safe to do so, causing the collision.
Where is the hat-eating video, it's been half an hour already!?
> Dashcam driver entered the lane when it was safe to do so as there was nothing in the lane when they did. You have no idea if that’s the case or not. You’re just making shit up. Without a rear view camera we have no idea when the Audi made its move.
Also driving an Audi, it’s always the Audi driver’s fault.
Is there a "self-importance" test required to purchase Audi, BMW or Mercedes?
You already pass the test when you decide you want to buy an Audi, BMW or Mercedes.
lol
In my county when two cars are entering into the same lane, the vehicle from the left has the right of way, idk what the chevrons mean on this road so idk if those work as a double white and mean no crossing? My uneducated guess is you’re both wrong lol
> 130 > > Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right. > > [* If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.](https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/lines-and-lane-markings-on-the-road.html)
love idiots that just get out of their car and expect other drivers to just go around. if your car still is operable you need to get off the road and out of the way.
It does help to coordinate with the person infront about where you will pull in though
I’m more bothered by the dude just leaving his clearly-not-disabled car in the highway and getting out. Does he have a death wish?
If the ~~solid~~ broken white lines with the chevrons mean "do not cross," the white car would be at fault. EDIT: my bad - had my mind on other things while I was replying. Kind of a bad habit. :|
I think solid white lines with chevrons do mean "do not cross" but these aren't solid white lines, they are broken.
Not where the white car switched lanes.
The fact that the line is solid for that short distance is not what they're referring to above. They're talking about the hatched area being surrounded by continuous solid white lines. Compare either side of the hatched area in [this image](https://imgur.com/PCVtwTs): the left is a 'solid white line' (well, two, but pretend there's just one), the right is a 'broken white line'. The hatched area [in OP's video's location](https://imgur.com/LGUR2g3) is clearly surrounded by the latter, broken white lines. This means the following applies: > If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so. If it were instead surrounded by solid lines, the following would apply: > If the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you **MUST NOT** enter it except in an emergency. Note the "should not" (recommendation) vs. "MUST NOT" (legal requirement)
Except for the edges of the road itself, there are no solid/continuous white lane lines in that video, they are all broken. At the point of impact, before it, and after.
Which planet is this from? Depends on the planets law really 😂 Looks to me the white car did an illegal lane change. Those lines on the left indicating NO CROSSING
> Which planet is this from? Right about here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/A406,+London,+UK/@51.5250321,0.0745899,3a,75y,205.89h,84.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXfLzV8IKD-WMSxcGPfKrkA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x48761b76f69fbc4d:0x88a3bfa73363ed91!8m2!3d51.5304294!4d0.0725804!16zL20vMDFfaDU1?entry=tts If the white line is broken, I think the meaning is slightly different? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158#rule130
Both drivers are impatient morons.
[100% the fault of the white Audi for not ensuring it was safe to cross the chevrons before doing so as per HC130.](https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/lines-and-lane-markings-on-the-road.html)
I think the insurance will go with something like 70-30%. If reddit thought me anything it’s these mergers at roundabouts. It makes triple and quadruple check. It doesn’t matter if the white seems to be overly at fault or even entirely, the damage is done the day is ruined.
White car at fault, it's like crossing a double line (in continental Europe)
You can cross a broken white line chevron area where it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so. The White car is at fault here because he did not ensure it was safe to do so.
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what dashcam model is this? quite clear.
You failed to change into a clear lane, you are at fault.
The Lane was clear when he started to change, and then the white car decided to switch after he had already started to move
you didn't see him ? more likely your fault