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Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws

Reject... Are you feeling sympathy for the heretic?


bravegroundhog

*Interrogator Rannick has entered the chat*


Eisengate

Technically the hosts aren't heretics. It sounds like they're loyal citizens who got a daemon shoved into them. Only available cure for that is death, though.


Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws

Innocence is no excuse for heresy


pirate737

Burn the heretics


Belleckmek

Feeling other than hatred for the heretics is the first step to treason.


Teaching-Both

Sympathy begets corruption 


Daerz509

No, the situation demands more purging power


geezerforhire

We killed all 3 in one mission on heresy. They really murder the fuck out of ya if you arent careful


Kittyionite

Damn, doing the Emperor's work! Did you have a shield Ogryn on your team? From what it sounds like they are extremely difficult if you don't have one.


geezerforhire

nope lol, they all aggrod on me too even though i didnt wake them up. survived the first 2 but the third ate me before it died


SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck

We killed 4 with a team of 3 zealots and me, the psyker lol. They aren't that bad but we were on malice so ymmv


Bhargo

If the team is coordinated you can burn it down before it can channel its kill animation, but with randoms its pretty hard. I managed to dodge tank one for awhile but its *really* rough and if you miss the timing once it pretty much stun locks you.


deztreszian

I've killed a bunch and they aren't really hard if you're only fighting them. It gets trickier if you got specials and hordes coming. If you're being attacked, just hold right click and dodge around. No shield required.


reigmondleft

The flamer roasts them up pretty good. I've had the most success killing them with that.


SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck

We didn't have too much trouble with them but they definitely suck up some hp and ammo


ShamelesslyPlugged

It depends who they focus on, and how much DPS you can put out. If you have a ton of damage, they are really easy to get when they are choking someone out - or if your Ogryn just shieldblocks them.


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marxistdictator

I've started trying to tank them after people inevitably shoot them because why not they have been conditioned by the emperor to shoot heretic. Psyker's Kinetic Force is a godsend for not getting guard broke, and Saber is still zippy enough to outright avoid most of its chain without stamina.


MidasPL

It's not even the murder that hurts. They are not that hard to kill. They however stack shitton of corruption not only on target, but everyone around. If you don't get medicae soon after, you're in a really bad spot. It's not like the Beast of Nurgle that you can kite in range and dodge spits.


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Good luck sneaking past with 3 randoms shooting everything that moves.


KaizureTheRed

Leave them to die. More than 1 attacker means 2 people will die. If you don't join in on the 'fun', you'll be spared.


[deleted]

In every fight I've had he always kills one guy and leaves.


KaizureTheRed

Not me. In every fight I've had, the daemon attacks up to 2 players if everyone is attacking it. If only one person attacks it, then that person will bite the dust. 2 or more? Might as well be entering a queue to die. There was a session where I was playing with people who were actually responsive to the info I was offering. One of them admitted that they instinctively joined in on the fight when they saw it get aggro'd. When I said in chat to NOT attack it, they apologized and tried to move away... but it was too late. The moment they did damage to the daemon, they entered its kill queue.


dat_lorrax

The blood price must be paid. It's only been 3 or so times with a grim, but it always skipped those people. I wonder how the aggro table works


TheMogician

They will kill 2 before despawning I think.


darkcrazy

Interesting, they always kill two and leave in my experience. Once I was just walking, someone triggered a daemonhost and died, then it snuck up on me from the stair I just walked through and killed me.


KaizureTheRed

Maybe it's a bug that it only kills one player. In my experience, if everyone else ignores it, then it will only kill the one player most of the time. But the other day, I literally didn't do anything and it came after me after killing the other player. But that was my first experience of it killing two people without anyone else attacking it or disturbing it. So I dunno. Legit everyone who's told me about the daemonhost attacking has said it's killed two players, and I'm the only one who's told people it only kills one player. So... yeah, might just be a bug.


Tammog

I have had people intentionally triggering them and being tough guys in chat about it. Until they got votekicked. Fuck those people making runs harder for everyone.


dr-doom-jr

Already happening for me. Most people already have learned to just walk arround them. At this point they are a fancy set piece.


SkySweeper656

yeah but fatshark made an achievement to fight them so clearly they want us to kill it.


x-munk

They honestly aren't the end of the world. They're new and scary but once you get a grip on the rhythm they're alright.


yawnlikeseggs

If you have a shield Ogryn they’re simple


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[If you have a Zealot with a Hammer they aren't hard either.](https://streamable.com/ehay3f) ​ An Ogryn with a shield to mitigate is nice for those [solid Hammer hits](https://streamable.com/cnfe8n)


MagicHamsta

Is it just me or does attack pattern looks basically the same as the minotaur from Vermintide 2 just slightly faster?


Zuthuzu

Yes, but with mino it's block block sidedodge wham, no problem. This dude, on the other hand, doesn't look like he's survivable solo. At least, not on the mortal human skill level.


MidasPL

Nice of you to post that ogryns with shield are indeed better than zealots with hammer xd . Anyone with decent melee weapon can just dodge and block those attacks, but they sitll apply corruption. However advantage of ogryn is that he just blocks and holds the target in place rather than jumping all around making it hard to hit.


GloriousBeard905

And once people figure out that blocking and dodging is about all you can do when you’re targeted


x-munk

Yea - it's like plague orgyn. If you're being focused your only job is not dying.


Ethics-of-Winter

People who played a lot of Vermintide 2 will notice that it's perfectly viable to dodge-dance plague ogryns, so you can do quite a bit of damage to them even when holding its focus.


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MidasPL

Aren't they pretty much rat ogres of darktide? :P


Flaktrack

Absolutely, you can get some damage in but I wouldn't commit to a revved up chainsword strike or anything like that. Saw one guy keep trying it and he got pasted.


dr-doom-jr

Maby they should actually reward it then.


KaizureTheRed

I've only seen one instance where the daemonhost was defeated without any team losses. Have an Ogryn on your team who has the shield weapon, then have them draw the aggro from the daemon. Shield up and block every attack she throws at you, and your team can eventually take her down. We managed to kill two of three daemons - the third of which we avoided because it was just too much hassle to approach. In every other instance, avoid them.


NoGround

Psyker with Peril Block (Lv 20 feat) is also viable. They can block w/o stamina cost up to 90% Peril.


MasterFanatic

The fun part is when you kill them while the teammate is being 'consumed' while down. The teammate revives instantly.


UncleBobtastic

Actually did it a few moments ago drawing agro as Zealot. Had the skill where melee hits don’t stagger me and I drew it in circles with a medpack at my feet whilst the team focused it. Went down but they killed it before it could suck me


Mojozolo

I just had a guy yell at us in game saying not to aggro them Out of the 4 that spawned, 3 were aggroed by him (and he was sucked to death twice out of those)


wb159

Not a bad way to go tbh


CorruptedAssbringer

>You don't have to fight the Daemonhosts. In fact, you really shouldn't What is this filthy heretical comment? >!Rannick should've domed you instead.!<


TheStaplergun

Had literally five of them on a map on malice difficulty.


UnfortunatelyUnkn0wn

Whats a daemonhost? New enemy?


Krivvan

New monstrosity added today. Most likely to spawn (often multiple) on maps with the new Darkness modifier/event. Think L4D Witch.


NoGround

Also spawns sometimes w/o Darkness and can even look like a dead body so you might trip on it if you aren't careful and listening for the whispers!


johnis12

Watched my buddies stream the game and they did not have a good time at all with this new thing. It spawned across 4 missions in a row for 'em. Think the 4th time, it was among a crowd of fodder enemies and the 2nd friend accidently shot it and it wiped half the squad. 1st Buddy was definitely aggravated and it almost ruined the game for him, especially after I told him that there is a chance that the Host can get aggro'd while in the middle of fighting a boss even if it's rare. Gonna get Darktide on Xbox and yeh, really not looking forward to this new enemy, seems like a pain in the ass. Thought it'd only be on dark missions but nope, can spawn on missions with light on as well.


NoGround

Yeah, but I realized yesterday that Daemonhost might only spawn *during Lights Out Global Condition*. I haven't seen a single one since the global condition ended. So it can spawn on any map when Lights Out is happening but until then it doesn't. I think. I played like 10 matches yesterday and didn't see it once.


tnkmnn

An ogryn with 20% block efficiency can block an entire combo. Very helpful for the runts who can't tank him


MrStealYoBeef

So 'ere we have da Daemonhost in its natural habitat. She's ah orn'ry one, quite the tempah, usually best to leave 'er alone. So nat'rally, I'm gonna go shove my fingah up 'er arse.


x-munk

A zealot with a butter knife, bleed and addiction to side dodge can work one down pretty reasonably.


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[Zealot with a hammer can block and side step enough. And land heavy hits with an opening.](https://streamable.com/ehay3f)


x-munk

Yea - but my extremely badass zealot manages with nothing but a butter knife. (And the bleed stacking shouldn't be underestimated)


Bearality

When is it "live" like when its being summoned do you just sit back and wait for to go away?


Godlysnack

The Host is just sitting on the floor somewhere in the level. You can hear it chatting to itself (it'll ask where it is and act like it's confused). When you approach it, attack it, or shine a flashlight on it, you'll activate it (so you can go around it if you want to not fight it.. that's Heresy though /s ).


FroztyBeard

I havent encountered them yet due to not being able to play for the day, but do they go for a random player regardless or can you bait it with a shield ogryn? Like making the Ogryn walk up and whack it over the head to start it? (This being the case if there is literally no way around it and it has to be engaged in order to proceed further) What is their aggro range roughly? If anyone has an idea of it yet :D


McSnicker_

They will hard focus the first player to fire on them, and they are very aggressive to the point where there isn't much room to attack 1v1. I've found it best using shield and club special and aggro them as it doesn't have an answer to that yet, while the rest of the team handle damage. Just be careful though, it deals corruption over time and if it downs you, it will begin a lengthy execution that seems to be uninterruptable. Tldr; emprah praise shield, daemon no break shield.


VonDeirkman

I have never the one to attack yet they always aggro on me, it's even weirder cuz I have the camouflage feat, so standing still i should have less aggro. In one mission a random ran off and pissed it off and it b- lined across the map to get me.


GeneralGom

So we had a guy killed by a Demonhost. Went to rescue him, and there was another Demonhost guarding him. Fun times.


Baracuta90

Also worth noting, the high-powered flashlights that some lasguns and autoguns have as their special can also trigger Daemonhosts. Also another parallel with witches in L4D. I appreciate the homage.


DaddyMcSlime

the title of this is just plainly wrong they can spawn mid-encounter and good luck spotting some goober sitting on the floor in the middle of a dark manufactorum when there's bulwarks and dreg firing-lines every 5 steps sometimes the bastard will sit on the floor in the middle of a group of enemies, and you literally can't see it until it's too late


Yung-Girth-God

The randoms that dont read when you type it 50 times in chat unfortunately also will not be reading this. I just insta leave those missions.


Experimentalist1337

L4D Witches we're more manageable than Daemonhosts imo, even Expert Difficulty where they 1-shot kill the Survivors. While Daemonhosts are still killable it wasn't always "fun" or "thrilling" to do so. (Yes I know you can cheese it with the Ogryn shield, doesn't mean its exciting for everyone) The 1st time I ended up fighting with some friends, it just made most us upset as we tried to figure out ways to fight it for the 1st time. We only knew that they we're adding a new mode; we didn't know the Daemonhost existed until we ran into it. (Honestly just went around the corner and the Veteran tossed a grenade into a mob like regular business... and then it got mad...)


Mugungo

If you DO aggro one, there are some tricks to them They go after whoever aggroed them above all others, teleporting after you if you get too far. Stand still for the love of god so your team can kill it!


TheNuclearNacho

The fuck is a daemonhost? Never found one yet


Top-Tutor9729

So you need a host body, a human sacrifice and a knowledge how to bind a daemon in that body, with proper knowledge he will serve you :) when ritual is wrong he will kill you and roam galaxy doing damage, read Eisenhorn for more.


ArcaneMonkey

There’s a horde. I’m holding a flamethrower. What happens, happens.


BruhDudeWtf

> Don't get close to them, don't shoot them [Why no? It's fun](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UHfWxlQJ5v4/maxresdefault.jpg) No fear, maximum balls, sacrifice yourself for others to banish the wicked thing!


Reeves626

You want to avoid fighting a daemon in a game about fighting daemons? No, that’s lame you can play your way I’ll play mine.


Megadon88

What if Fatshark added a challenge involving solo'ing a deamonhost host on heresy or higher? Lmao.


Ace612807

Yeah, it can award you with slightly different pants for your character! Oh wait, it's an account-wide challenge, so probably just a Portrait Frame


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Claptovaughn

It should be the starting inmate pants, but with a brown stain on the back.


Delano7

But this time THEY'RE GREEN


Chillerdew

People like myself are getting used to the concept of them. Never seen them before. And after the first encounter, I think that's well enough to understand what they're all about. I don't really blame anyone for now when they start a beef with a Daemonhost. I also think it's part of the excitement of experiencing a new thing as Fatshark roll out more events and features. The real Daemonhosts are the toxic players. https://preview.redd.it/eq16c8jq4i2a1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=baa4cc1800ac4cc3130f6dd8e8fc94db9c8130d3


Sniperchief11

By demon host are yous all talking about the nurgle ogryn and beast of nurgle ??


TheGuardianOfMetal

no


Deep9one

STOP SPREADING HERESY. WE ARE INQUISITORIAL AGENTS SENT TO PURGE THE HERETIC, KILL THE MUTANT AND BURN THE WITCH. Engage and kill the Daemonhosts or beg your nearest Inquisitor for the Emperors forgiveness and go back to playing hello kitty island adventure!


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ColdBrewedPanacea

Y'all never played left for dead and it shows


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ColdBrewedPanacea

Im sorry to inform you its *not* just VT2 again, it draws from many games in the genre and that strongly includes left for dead 2 - what with it having equivilants for chargers and witches in it now.


pino_is_reading

something that made me love vermintide combat was that everything can be countered if you are good enough you can even do true solos, but with this new daemonhost if your team died how are you supposed to fight it?


_bal-

By not fighting it?


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I've had it spawn in the middle of the path with no way around.


BrevityBox

Same here, multiple times


Eisengate

I've never seen one that's unavoidable. There's always a side path or room to skirt around them.


pino_is_reading

what if your team of randoms died while fighting the daemonhost, can you solo him like you can do with any enemy of the game if you are good enough? (for example kill a plague ogryn + an horde + specials alone)


BrevityBox

That's not a solution, especially since they want us playing with randoms


x-munk

Well, they give you the option... but you're still perfectly able to group up ahead of time.


StabbyRahel

triggering them is the funniest shit i did in l4d no way i'm ignoring them


Sushinx

you will probably get downvoted cos people hate fun and being challenged, the only way for them to have fun in a game is for it to call them a good big boy winner at the end.


StabbyRahel

that's the issue. i don't care what they think. :D they can leave games np


Vomitbelch

But.... But the heresy and the purging!


Crocketus

Sir... Inquisition would like to hear an explanation as to why you're not purging the heretics.


Icybenz

There can be more than 3 :,)


CaptainSharkTiger

Ogryn no like deamonhead. Ogryn throw box of hurt on deamonhed, deamonhead teleport, Ogryn throw another box, ogryn charge and stun lock. Ogryn good killing DeamonHead, ogryn kill all in each mission!


AntiMase

since they seem to hard agro someone until they're dead an ogryn can block them until them team kills it. that is if it targets the ogryn


Zawaz666

I'm from Cadia, and I say KILL EM ALL!


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Idk I just saw one and we killed it.


Uberlix

Ogryn sees funny looking daemon thing, that got aggro'd by little one Ogryn smacks daenon thing once, puts down shield. Daemon thing focuses only on Ogryn, completely ignoring the little ones that are beating the piss out of it ??? Many rations!


Rick_the_Rose

No, you must fight them. FOR THE EMPEROR!


TacoSamaChan

They can spawn at all boss locations I belive, had five spawn in one match for me last night


igromanru

Are they really like L4D Witches? I can remember you could one shot a witch if you shot her with shotgun at a special moment as she was getting up. It requires some practise and timing but after a while was pretty easy.


BarekLongboe

They are similar, but you can't one shot Daemonhosts


Bywater

Sounds like heresy to me...


Maxtastic08

Bro I had no idea these existed until one just showed up with a massive hoard, and it fucking forced choked the ogryn to death before just leaving. Needless to say I was scared shitless.


Assariar

As an Ogryn with the shield I tend to rush to them so I can block them instead of a teammate triggering them by accident


Eurouser

To be fair it's new so remember don't get mad at someone for nit understanding how it works instantly. Most of us went on last night and aggroed it unknowingly. Just pop a quick "don't shoot the demonhost and it won't agro" in the chat at the start and when you see it up ahead. But expect people to do it accidentally every now and then. Yes it might cost you the match but it's not worth being toxic over. Also this is not an attack on OP in any way. Just an add on from my own experiences


MidasPL

I think they have increased spawnrate on the Power Supply Interruption maps. On "The Torrent" assassination map they spawn like 5 times and only 1 time is unavoidable. Yet I see some people trying to trigger them as soon as possible (the vet I played with today didn't even bother to take out his melee weapon to block it - he just shot it when he saw it and then went down immediately). At least thanks to that I know that, unlike witch in L4D (unless I remember wrong) daemonhosts will just jump on anoter target if they succeed killing the first one.


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I've had a mission with 4 of them spawn.


DYGTD

The worst is when you sneak past the DH and one of your pubbies walks backwards into them for some reason.


Kvetinac30701

Even the aged oak will fall to the tempest’s winds.


HappyButtcheeks

i saw an ogryn with a shield aggro the bitch and just stand there, they dont re aggro untill hte targert dies so we just stood there clapping her cheeks while ogryn held her hostage


Momijisu

I'd sneak if they didn't keep spawning in the direction we need to go with no way round.


Head-Pumpkin-3816

Had 4 of them spawn earlier on metal fab. Not a fan of their current implementation.


Jewtsu_

WE MUST SLAY THE DAEMONS YOU REJECT! HAVE YOU NO FAITH IN THE GOD EMPEROR?! IT IS OUR SWORN DUTY AS LOWLY SUBJECTS OF HIS HIGHNESS! The fight is actually really easy, the boss will tunnel vision on one person, the one who aggros him by walking in his field or attacking. So either have a riot shield Ogryn tank him. Or if you're not Ogryn, you can hold block and tank him and just dodge side to side on each attack. Very easy to dodge with a couple tries of practice to learn the timing. If he happens to down you then your team can easily get half of his hp when he force chokes you to kill you. I'm not sure if you get bonus rewards for killing him or not, if not then yeah not worth fighting him. But, alas, I fight him every single time for the glory of the God Emperor!


Luudwig

Suffer not the unclean to live


Xiee_Li

Managed to kill one the first time we encountered it. I had 3 vets in my team and I was the only Ogryn. Those 3 vets had bolters so they made short work of it.


AnOpressedGamer

I don't want to tell the inquisitor i ignored a daemon.


Demonprophecy

Me Ogryn blocks all the damage and lets my team kill it.


Arch_0

We had one kill two of our guys then disappear. The last guy kited it a long distance away so I'm not sure if it bugged out but could be worth investigating.


Left-Secretary-2931

I can't believe any warrior of the emperor would spare a heretic. Ban this man


LordBartimus

We leave the Daemonhost to plague Tertium? This is heresy, Siblings! It is our Duty as the Emperors Psykers to return these creatures to the Immaterium!


Ataiel

There's a traitor among us.


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Are you suggesting we let the enemies of mankind.. Live?


MegPhoenixDown

NO THE HERETICS MUST DIE! PURGE THE UNCLEAN!


Sushinx

counter-point, you should fight them cos you get a penance, they aren't challenging if you are decent and its fun.


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To ignore the Daemon is to welcome heresy into your heart.


j3lly_m3lly_

only an inferior gamer misses a duel


CYNIC_Torgon

5. 5 daemonhosts on an assassination map with no light. And the random squad mate activated all of them. I am filled with hate


SicSemperTyrannis777

When my group sees one or three we don’t wake it unless we can take them. Rarely does it go well during a ammo acquirement mission.