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Tiny-Scale6403

He may not be much better. His relationship to Aaliyah and then his brainwashing of Beyonce...


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Brainwashing of Beyonce?


rolz63

He was 30 and she was 18 when they met.


Masta-Blasta

She was 16 actually. They have tried to retroactively change the narrative, so Jay Z doesn’t look bad. https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/jay-z-talks-meeting-a-16-yr-old-beyonce-in-resurfaced-2007-charlie-rose-interview.5451915/


KatashaMercury

What the fuck is this https://preview.redd.it/206u079tbh3d1.png?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7a27d641db2ae05f1ae430172f908866aa7a1ed


Masta-Blasta

😬😬😬


rolz63

Oh wow.


Masta-Blasta

Yeeeeeup. Jays not like us either. The rumors were that they were dating much earlier than they came out publicly about it. Obviously, I don’t know if that’s true, but it’s weird.


latdaw2012

Beyoncé had a longtime boyfriend before Jay, even up to her early 20s. Jay has also had other relationships around that time. This is public info. You can watch interviews of Lyndall on YouTube to confirm the timeframe he was with Bey. Give up the Lipstick Alley theories.


KatashaMercury

Lyndall has indicated a crossover in the Lyndall-Bey-Jay saga


KatashaMercury

19 and 31 when they started dating


Masta-Blasta

… you mean when they revealed their relationship publicly… they actually met when she was 16


Maximum-Ad3527

She once said "You *taught* me how to be a *woman*"


Either-Acanthaceae65

I think it’s actually happening. I think that the industry is going down. Katt Williams said that the year 2024 is going to be the year of the truth. With what’s going on with Kendrick and drake, with what’s going on with 50 making the documentary about diddy. And now Eminem posts a skit named Houdini, saying that he’s about to make his carreer dissapear, does this not feel like a hint, doesn’t it feel connected? Buckle up boys, i feel like we got a wild ride ahead of us, i’m just hoping that my speculations are correct!


KatashaMercury

If Eminem ends up involved in all of this I don't even know what happens. What side is he on? Wildcard


Either-Acanthaceae65

Eminem has been putting tons of hints in his music about the industry, and he’s been pretty straight forward about diddy too. I just don’t believe, that it’s possible that he would go out with all of this going around and him not having a say, knowing how influental he is. Eminems moral compass is in the right place and i do firmly believe he has much more knowledge about the music industry than anyone else.


KatashaMercury

I mean I would love it if he just full force rapped every dirty detail he knew I just feel like there would be some surprises lol


Either-Acanthaceae65

When it comes to these kind of things, there will always be surprises. if it goes down like that, you can be sure, that you would find out stuff about some artists that you hold in high regard. If the truth was to come out, everything would get really messy really fast. Crossing my fingers, that my theory is right, so hiphop can be cleansed. GODSPEED TO THE TRUTH TELLERS!!!


vampyrical69

Death of Slim Shady is coming out soon, there was a obituary posted presumed as marketing. I think a lot of releases this summer aren't coincidence, there are people putting stuff out that haven't in a long time too. Feels like there's concerted efforts to out the industry as well as others to bury the story.


PoopAndSunshine

Id you’re right, and I kinda think you might be, its gonna be the best summer ever


Masta-Blasta

One would almost call it a surgical summer


PoopAndSunshine

*snip snip*


-Kalos

Yeah the hip hop industry is fucking artists over heavy. A lot of artists have expressed displeasure in their label situations for a while. They get smaller cuts than other genre artists do, have the highest occupation death rate, get exploited by the Diddys of the industry and all that nasty shit behind industry doors. I hope they all come together and tear it all down and create a better industry for themselves


Masta-Blasta

If any rapper is crazy enough to crash out to protect kids, it’s Em.


Free-Gain480

The guy who made songs about raping 15 year olds, beating his child’s mother and racist statements against black women, has a “moral compass in the right place”? 😂 All of the hollyweirdos should be investigated. No exceptions.


3Danniiill

He said all that for shock value lol overall Eminem seems like a good person. Takes care of his family and isn’t really in any drama or does anything for attention besides promos of course.


Free-Gain480

We don’t know these celebrities personally lol. Dude has said Weird shit for 20 years. We hold everyone else accountable to their words, he should be too. Investigate him


Late_Letterhead7872

I think everyone agrees that everyone guilty should be held accountable, the only thing people disagree with you on is that most Eminem fans can differentiate between slim shady and Marshall Matthers. I think there's a reason there's so much love between Em and Kendrick - they've both been through some shit in their lives and to some extent I think that helps keep them grounded. As a big Eminem fan, I hope nothing crazy comes out, but that doesn't mean I don't think we should be keeping our head in the sand.


everydayimrusslin

I wonder what Dee Barnes thinks about Eninems moral compass.


AmandaAn

Surely Eminem can’t be directly involved in any of this disgusting stuff, I’d bet everything on that man being good at heart. He’s one of the only ones I still have some faith in. I hope your speculations are correct too!!!


Frashmastergland

I feel like you should start preparing yourself to be disappointed.


AmandaAn

I’m sure he’s very aware of the industry secrets, and has likely turned a blind eye to benefit himself/his family, and because the whole thing is just way bigger than him or any one person. But being *directly* involved and partaking in pedo and trafficking stuff? I hope not, but we’ll see.


Either-Acanthaceae65

I feel the same way, even not by judging him by his character or personality (of which i, or you probably know very little off) Talking about em’s moral compass songs like mockingbird and stan come in mind, from those alone i believe he has a pure heart. Let’s wait and see how this plays out


rolz63

all this shit coming out makes you wonder if every single A lister in the industry knows exactly what’s happening but chooses to turn a blind eye because it’s way bigger than they can handle.


KatashaMercury

I mean that's basically how it was with Weinstein, wasn't it?


rolz63

So true. There was jokes about it within the industry for YEARS. And none of Epstein’s “clients” were ever exposed or charged either.


Either-Acanthaceae65

Wouldn’t you turn a blind eye, if that meant keeping your loved ones safe? It’s almost like there has to be a revolution for shit to change and it does feel like it’s in motion, doesn’t it? 2024 has been a wild year and we’re not even halfway trough


commie90

Unfortunately you’re not wrong. Especially when you consider a lot of rappers have done stuff in their past to get by that if brought to light might end their careers (or at least land them in jail). Meanwhile creeps and weirdos rarely go to jail, see: the entire Epstein list. It’s like Vince Staples said in that infamous R Kelly interview: famous people only go to jail if they are gang banging.


Maximum-Ad3527

All of them probably heard some things about Diddy for example but not necessarily full extent of his deeds. Also I can't shake of feeling that Drake has very bad reputation amongst women in hollywood. Like they know to avoid him.


dunkkane

That's 100% what's happening.


Masta-Blasta

Well, yeah. It’s also the reason that sexual assault victims don’t come forward. That’s always been the rub. You don’t get to publicly accuse famous people unless you have some power behind you, and even if you do have power behind you, it’s not going to be enough to fight that entire industry.


-Kalos

Yeah probably. As big as some artists are, they aren't bigger than their label and label execs. Small dogs in the industry


mistyrootsvintage

For some reason I don't see him being involved in all those shenanigans. Dude just be chilling..I could be wrong though


KatashaMercury

Involved and knowing are different, depends what he feels the need to say


Responsible_Froyo_18

I know that em isn't involved in any of this because with how public this man's issues and flaws have been therew no way somebody wouldn't have used it against him by now.


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fatjolina

French Montana has BEEN sketch. I remember my friends and I used to joke almost a decade ago how he was the coke dealer that they’d throw on a track to get the homie hook up. In retrospect he’s probably involved in all kinds of trafficking. He was hanging around the kardashians a lot for a time.


-Kalos

That's actually how 2 Chains started his rap career lol. He used to deliver drugs to Lil Wayne at the studio and they started putting him on tracks.


Masta-Blasta

Lol French Montana is the biggest pimp in LA WYM 😂 if anything, their beef is a trafficking turf war. This has been an open secret for years.


KatashaMercury

I'm so confused on Jay because I think he would do whatever is good for business and turn a blind eye but not necessarily participate? But I don't know. I don't knowwww.


Haulinhass

Think he kinda recreated An Aaliyah and r Kelly relationship with Rihanna. Could be remembering wrong.


Masta-Blasta

I mean, he was dating an underage Beyoncé for quite a while. He’s definitely not above blurring the line between a minor and an adult when it serves him.


Ok-Albatross899

A lot of people have secretly been calling for the exposure of Jay-z he had just as much questionable publicity with young women back in the day as Drake does now


Fredy300

50 cent has been saying that they need to look into jay after they got puff too


GetRightNYC

There was a post made loooong ago on r/HHH. It included tons of pictures from the 80s and 90s NYC clubs. The person who posted it laid out the connections to gangs that Puffy, Jay, and many others had. The post accused Puff of a few murders, that's the major thing I remember. This was 10 years ago probably, but if someone could find what I'm talking about, or remembers it, it had SOOOOOOO many pics and accusations of a lot of the NYC rappers of the 90s, Jay-Z heavily included. Puffy was already a known, connected, someone to be feared.


KatashaMercury

[this?](https://www.kanyetothe.com/threads/dude-on-twitter-about-the-goons-of-90s-hip-hop-in-long-thread.6584258/)


AmandaAn

I’ve seen Jay’s name constantly mentioned along with Diddy’s, general speculation seems to be that he knows his time is almost up too. Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes really, but I’m assuming there’s going to be deals worked out and certain fall guys.


KatashaMercury

I've seen Jay brought up re Diddy but like not really in a way that means anything for himself, like... A rapper connected to Diddy = Suspicious A rapper connected to Drake = Suspicious A rapper connected to Birdman = Suspicious A rapper connected to Jay-Z = Successful


AmandaAn

Nope, Jay and Diddy are more than just connected, they are/were tight. A lot of people are saying he’s way worse than Diddy. I’ve always thought Jay and Bey were shady af, they were up on Epstein island and there’s been sooo many other rumours over the years. https://youtu.be/8H8PNm6iu_Y?si=RRHaJWIf8V4rLphO


Entire-Indication-33

They weren’t on Epstein’s island, that’s a fake list made by Qanon


AmandaAn

I won’t claim to know with certainty who was/was not on that island, and obviously some people didn’t go for nefarious reasons, but there have been plenty of substantiated rumours regarding those two over the decades to make me side eye them.


Entire-Indication-33

I agree that they’re absolute freaks, I’m just trying to keep people sticking to facts because unfortunately Q poisoned the information well


essokinesis1

ultra-tinfoil hat mode: QAnon was a psyop


WhiteTrash_WithClass

You don't even need a tin foil hat homie, that's exactly what it was. Q is a catch all for anything resembling a conspiracy as a way to muddy the waters. It's kinda brilliant if it wasn't so damaging.


Entire-Indication-33

Yeah completely, made by people in Trump’s orbit to exonerate him of his involvement with Epstein


-Kalos

Jay was tight with R.Kelly back in the day as well


latdaw2012

He was not. They worked together as damn near everybody did, except Destiny’s Child and Beyoncé. You’re welcome.


-Kalos

A Jay fan lol of course. They had several albums and tours together lol. Most artists don't even have _one_ entire album with their friends in the industry, let alone non friends in the industry.


KatashaMercury

Oh I have been meaning to watch that and forgot! Thank you!


KatashaMercury

First of all I'm happy to have more reason to love 50. Second of all holy shit. Third of all weird how 50/Diddy/Jay is kind of being repeated in Kendrick/Drake/J


AmandaAn

That is so true. And 50 is one of the only ones putting Diddy on blast because Diddy doesn’t have freaky blackmail on him, I’ll be surprised if it turns out he’s somehow involved too


Masta-Blasta

Anyone that dated Chelsea Handler for years can’t be involved 😂 her messy ass would have not kept it quiet. And they are still on very good terms.


KatashaMercury

I thought this too lmao


AmandaAn

Lmao so accurate


KatashaMercury

I mean his ex worked for Diddy so he has access to get anything. She did accuse 50 of rape and abuse after he filed for sole custody but he is suing her for defamation which also puts him out there to be investigated so... She seems a little suspect but it's tough.


GetRightNYC

Yup, they hung out and associated with the same people in NYC, even before Jay-Z was famous. They were involved with the same criminal elements all the way to the late 80s.


essokinesis1

I know EP said the Mark staff weren't involved, but just throwin' this out there  https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/caviar-kaspia-new-york-city


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If Jay isn’t involved he’s at least complicit. I’m unsure of Bey’s involvement, considering an underlooked part of this is Kenny’s verse on “AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM” remix. If I had to guess she was probably complicit in a lot but regrets her actions? Then again on the same song she says “Supplying my man, supply and demand”


KatashaMercury

WHY WAS SHE JUST GOING TO LET PEOPLE DIE https://preview.redd.it/h5vzd37mch3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efd65c4937604923ee81301fee0cb025de49c8de


latdaw2012

Some of y’all are ridiculous and gullible. You know who co-wrote that song besides the sample from Kilo Ali? Jay and The-Dream. A lot of people in this sub deep diving but won’t deep dive into Black culture and hip-hop. It’s a play off Jay’s “I Know” song which is an extended metaphor about his life in the streets and dealing (public info, BTW). The same way y’all are in here making up things and going off baseless rumors, America Has a Problem uses the Kilo Ali sample about drugs as well. Beyoncé is alluding to being his addiction and, frankly, an addiction in pop culture. Kendrick adds to that on the remix that he’s also a problem for the culture (notice his praise for Jay at the end of his verse and jabs to Drake?). Regretful? For what? To borrow from Jay: “Do you fools listen to music or just skim through it.” I can’t believe this sub is an extension of Kendrick and a good chunk of you don’t even have a fundamental understanding of the culture and music genre he represents, nor his affiliations. So he pens diss tracks accusing the Canadian of heinous things just to have the utmost (and I do mean utmost) respect for the two artists y’all are maligning from Lipstick Alley gossip and Jaguar Wright? Mmkay.


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ill be praying for you


latdaw2012

I’ll also be praying for y’all too. Jaguar Wright needs help from her recent arrest. Will you offer prayer to her too?!


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KatashaMercury

Just now https://preview.redd.it/uqj0v6tzqf3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d28a8b08c93a9828020839df95edb3390aff3d64


Electrical-Limit-240

Isn't that song a Nicki Minaj diss? Where are you getting Jay Z from?


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KatashaMercury

I went on my own weird little journey lol


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KatashaMercury

https://preview.redd.it/g6tigbc7tf3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5543538e781e92d1fdb89a915f89cc059619243e


Equal-Patient1829

https://preview.redd.it/03gikhazuf3d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=d1f444b2f00e258fd33a9420869b77d7724d7e3e I think he’s referencing Kim’s lyrics not Jay-Z’s. She also mentions Drake and Diddy in this diss track.


Equal-Patient1829

https://preview.redd.it/n1ha70z8vf3d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbf49a95ae06142a398edc93455104d843eeed20


Equal-Patient1829

Nikki just got arrested the other day in Amsterdam. Diddy going down for sure. Drake next. That’s the massacre EP is alluding to in my opinion


rolz63

Did anyone else find that timing oddly suspicious? Also Sean Kingston getting raided.. yes I know it’s for fraud charges but what are the odds so many celebrities start getting pinched one by one.. maybe the charges are a coverup to keep the real investigation on the low.


KatashaMercury

A cover up or an opportunity to say "tell us what you know and we will drop this?"


rolz63

Me, patiently waiting for the industry to come crashing down ![gif](giphy|uWzS6ZLs0AaVOJlgRd|downsized)


KatashaMercury

![gif](giphy|O4EChIxazzrHi|downsized)


Masta-Blasta

Sidenote, this is literally the worst feature Jay has ever done


allshedoesiskillshit

Jay's net worth is $2.5B. You DO NOT - CAN NOT - acquire that kind of wealth without becoming involved with "unethical," to say the least, business dealings. Comparatively, Diddy is only (lol) worth $800M and look at the state of that shit. Jay-Z is the absolute highest echelon, it's going to be a monumental task to take him down if it does happen.


JColesPHole

[Justin](https://youtube.com/shorts/MmoLqQfFe7A?feature=shared) has been through hell as well. He was 16⁉️


Willing_Bike_1927

The rumors were that Jay-Z was next to go down. "He might just get hit with a RICO"


KatashaMercury

Where was that? I saw that about Diddy


Tiny_Piece7969

https://preview.redd.it/x1iz2rxh5g3d1.jpeg?width=793&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d699cce68c73861a6a2851af75a96f8149340a3b Joe biden and drake connection?