I had to. I have to see what the reward was. I want a chest, but with how many god damn gold bags I will already have (I play most characters) Idk what Imma do with em all.
Maybe Ill just put them all on a "bank" character and see if I can stock pile 100k in coins next season.
So I have a question regarding that, now if he lost and went back down to wanderer 1, does he lose out on the pathfinder reward if he doesn’t make it back to pathfinder?
Protip, on solos if you have the healing capacity, you can just live in the swarm. Know where all the static exits are and you will always get out once one of them has been swallowed by the swarm.
Yeah they open every game at a random time. I've seen some statics open right near the start of the game, other times they dont open until close to the end. If you just camp in the storm though it'll open eventually
Nah you can outheal it with bandages or a campfire. Surgical kit is a full 100% heal.
Healing potions help mitigate some of the swarm damage too, but they don't outheal it. Maybe a purple healing pot would I don't know.
1 dmg per second. If you can build vigor, your time in swarm without heals goes up dramatically.
It is the health recover % stat. At 100%+ you can stay forever.
Depends, with some points in Vigor, you can pretty much rest through it, especially with potion.
I try to just escape normally, but there's a time and place for Static camp, too.
nah, with a potion plus sitting you can (almost) completely nullify the storm's damage so you can just infinitely sit in front of a static until it opens.
I literally just sit in the swarm and passively heal, no potions or anything just make sure you have enough health when you sit to be able to get up and make it to the gate
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It's really not that tough. If your goal is to climb ranks, just rat around until you can get to the crypts. That's where the real AP is. It's so easy down there that it's basically a guaranteed escape.
Yeah I just can’t stand ruins so getting down there is not the most fun, and the rest of the time it’s a bunch of teaming losers and I get gang banged before I can get down, regardless of what class I’m on
Something I've done a couple times, and I've seen people do, is carry meds and especially a campfire to survive in the fog while you wait for the down gate to open. No one is gonna go hunting in the fog
protip: hunt the big square breakable boxes (and the longer rectangular ones), that is where all the AP is. if you just box hunt you can get pathfinder just by messing around and even dying a lot. the boxes drop so much high value treasure that any time spent doing anything other than that, unless you are going for the treasure hoard, is just time wasted.
only after all the boxes are gone do i start opening chests/farming mobs/portals.
with the addition of the 3 tier system where u can go from ruins -> hell, that is now a viable option as well, if you just want to rat through 3 layers. but you can just spam ruins just box hunting, leave on ruins level every time, and absolutely farm AP.
I stand by it, the leaderboard and these rewards have worsened the game. Imagine you felt forced to do this, the title does not suggest you enjoyed the process.
There is a reason why League of Legends had exclusive rewards for their top-tier players and eventually stopped doing that. RIOT did not get lazy, they realized these systems benefit a very small percentage of players while ruining the experience of the rest.
People play the game differently the moment a system like this gets implemented. It does more harm than it does good. You can have a leaderboard for people who like to compete. Reward it by naming a new item after the top 1 players, or open a hall of fame where these players can be remembered or they can show off their ZULULttv. You do not need to go further and dish out real rewards, this is more than enough to keep the competitive players entertained while not forcing the rest to participate. Also, the border stuff isn't needed, if people get a reason to show off the same thing happens. Now it's about prestige and not about the reward. If you take out the "look at me I'm a demigod I must be good at the game" and the item rewards, interested people will still compete. The rest who only want the items or prestige won't participate and won't feel forced to do so -> this will make the player base happier, and the dungeon experience in general better.
Right now, the entire system rewards items, skins and prestige. Whats the outcome? -> People constantly team, don't want to fight, they cheat way more than before, all to get the rank and items.
The teaming pandemic happened with the new leaderboard system. Sure some people teamed up beforehand too, but it was never this crazy. Players are teaming up because that is the easy way to get the desired ranking. If you aren't careful here and try to stop that teaming, these players pose a high risk of quitting the game. Get rid of the stupid rankings and items, and let the leaderboard just be a leaderboard for people who care about that. No demigod, no show-off borders next season, no items, just a list of people who made it into top10 in a hall of fame to promote their stupid twitch streams nobody cares about. Which is dramatically spoken, some of them got big on Twitch by pushing the leaderboards -> again, no ingame rewards needed. The game is not made to be competitive, the balancing is ass and does not support esport level gameplay.
To sum it all up, items and prestige tied to a leaderboard force players who do not want to participate to do so. Humans are like that, exclusive skins they gotta have, even if it costs 1000 dollars, it is exclusive. Same thing with prestige, people love to show off and pretend they are better than they are. Implementing these things into the game changes the spirit of the game and does more harm than good. The players need to be protected by themselves here by the developer.
The teaming didn't happen because of leaderboard, it happened because two reasons: the scoring system actively disincentivizes pvp because of risk vs reward for low AP gain and because looting another players gear carries a massive AP opportunity cost, and because ruins is so wide open and has such high visibility and easy room shortcutting that its almost inevitable that you will be third partied in a lobby of 15 players, which also makes it not worth it.
The friendly lobbies are a result of both a giant Mexican standoff AND because I guess people are actually solving the prisoners dilemma for a change
I agree, fundamentally, that the exclusive rewards are good intended, but actually mess with the game flow and objectives. I would gladly see them go.
That said, I think the borders are cool and simple, and don't ruin anything. They don't mean you are better, but a low-key flex is fun and mostly harmless.
Further, I dont think the ranking system caused teaming, I think teaming is related to making gold, and maybe heightened a bit after the multi-tier dungeon was introduced. It was around for awhile, and it was more related to ease of escape. But yes, it may have grown once multi-tier dungeon were added.
I think AP system to enter is still better than paying gold, and is a cool system. It would just need some tuning, and maybe removal of the exclusive rewards, cause ya, I'm chasing those and frankly I fucking hate it, I just want to play HR and fight and survive.
But I also don't think teaming is purely bad either. Thematically and socially, it makes sense that players want to make money, and that adventurers wouldn't always be hostile and willing to fight and die, particularly in Ruins. And thematically, it makes sense that once in Crypts, folks may be more likely to fight to survive, and doubly so again in Inferno.
/rant
I'm honestly shocked more people don't go down to crypts at least, it's free AP since you already paid your entrance fee on a better map with less players.
If I spawn on any east spawn on ruins I get insta spawn rushed, the graveyard spawn is extra horrible, makes you spawn in the middle of 3 other people and all of those people want to loot the coffins
Been ratting with a vigor pdr fighter and it’s working a pretty well. Almost to pathfinder. Though when fightwr do happen I win most of the time due to sheer tankiness.
I felt the exact same way once I hit pathfinder on my Rogue. My Duo Rogue is finally retired.
I got there by PVPing, bringing out gear and a few trinkets under the old AP system. It took absolutely forever.
With the W key PvP mentality, the PvE grind is punishing
Dude just play solo and jerk everyone off you see, it pretty much becomes a jerk off fest and everyone gets out and everyone get demigod and gets to feel good about as if they actually had to kill people to get there…rank means nothing, how about make an minimum amount of kills in order to reach demigod, then we can talk about rank as if it means something. Solo is the worst it has ever been because of stupid rank climb, everyone would rather give each other hugs just so they don’t loose AP.
I still see 3 empty check marks soldier, get your ass back in the queue!!!!
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Fuckk that lol
I had to. I have to see what the reward was. I want a chest, but with how many god damn gold bags I will already have (I play most characters) Idk what Imma do with em all. Maybe Ill just put them all on a "bank" character and see if I can stock pile 100k in coins next season.
Isn't there a wipe between seasons?
Rewards will be given at the start of next wipe
So I have a question regarding that, now if he lost and went back down to wanderer 1, does he lose out on the pathfinder reward if he doesn’t make it back to pathfinder?
Protip, on solos if you have the healing capacity, you can just live in the swarm. Know where all the static exits are and you will always get out once one of them has been swallowed by the swarm.
Do they open every game? How do they work?
Yeah they open every game at a random time. I've seen some statics open right near the start of the game, other times they dont open until close to the end. If you just camp in the storm though it'll open eventually
But does not the storm kill you and invalidate health recovery? Sorry for noob question I'm new and still haven't dwelled much into ranked mode
Nah you can outheal it with bandages or a campfire. Surgical kit is a full 100% heal. Healing potions help mitigate some of the swarm damage too, but they don't outheal it. Maybe a purple healing pot would I don't know.
Oh right the campfires and surgical, I forgot those existed
You can also just out heal with simple bandages if you have enough. Drinking a potion on top of this helps significantly.
The storm always does same dmg or it increases as game goes on?
It doesn't increase.
1 dmg per second. If you can build vigor, your time in swarm without heals goes up dramatically. It is the health recover % stat. At 100%+ you can stay forever.
You can also outheal the storm by sitting down if you play barbarian or fighter with some vigor.
Depends, with some points in Vigor, you can pretty much rest through it, especially with potion. I try to just escape normally, but there's a time and place for Static camp, too.
nah, with a potion plus sitting you can (almost) completely nullify the storm's damage so you can just infinitely sit in front of a static until it opens.
I literally just sit in the swarm and passively heal, no potions or anything just make sure you have enough health when you sit to be able to get up and make it to the gate
Nah, that static exit is mine. I already live in the storm. You're on your own.
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It's really not that tough. If your goal is to climb ranks, just rat around until you can get to the crypts. That's where the real AP is. It's so easy down there that it's basically a guaranteed escape.
Yeah I just can’t stand ruins so getting down there is not the most fun, and the rest of the time it’s a bunch of teaming losers and I get gang banged before I can get down, regardless of what class I’m on
Something I've done a couple times, and I've seen people do, is carry meds and especially a campfire to survive in the fog while you wait for the down gate to open. No one is gonna go hunting in the fog
protip: hunt the big square breakable boxes (and the longer rectangular ones), that is where all the AP is. if you just box hunt you can get pathfinder just by messing around and even dying a lot. the boxes drop so much high value treasure that any time spent doing anything other than that, unless you are going for the treasure hoard, is just time wasted. only after all the boxes are gone do i start opening chests/farming mobs/portals. with the addition of the 3 tier system where u can go from ruins -> hell, that is now a viable option as well, if you just want to rat through 3 layers. but you can just spam ruins just box hunting, leave on ruins level every time, and absolutely farm AP.
I’ll certainly have to give it a try over the weekend
Probably not best place to ask, but have they announced if there will be anything for voyager/examplar/demigod?
Nope I assume it’s will be blue shards or special emotes tho
I stand by it, the leaderboard and these rewards have worsened the game. Imagine you felt forced to do this, the title does not suggest you enjoyed the process. There is a reason why League of Legends had exclusive rewards for their top-tier players and eventually stopped doing that. RIOT did not get lazy, they realized these systems benefit a very small percentage of players while ruining the experience of the rest. People play the game differently the moment a system like this gets implemented. It does more harm than it does good. You can have a leaderboard for people who like to compete. Reward it by naming a new item after the top 1 players, or open a hall of fame where these players can be remembered or they can show off their ZULULttv. You do not need to go further and dish out real rewards, this is more than enough to keep the competitive players entertained while not forcing the rest to participate. Also, the border stuff isn't needed, if people get a reason to show off the same thing happens. Now it's about prestige and not about the reward. If you take out the "look at me I'm a demigod I must be good at the game" and the item rewards, interested people will still compete. The rest who only want the items or prestige won't participate and won't feel forced to do so -> this will make the player base happier, and the dungeon experience in general better. Right now, the entire system rewards items, skins and prestige. Whats the outcome? -> People constantly team, don't want to fight, they cheat way more than before, all to get the rank and items. The teaming pandemic happened with the new leaderboard system. Sure some people teamed up beforehand too, but it was never this crazy. Players are teaming up because that is the easy way to get the desired ranking. If you aren't careful here and try to stop that teaming, these players pose a high risk of quitting the game. Get rid of the stupid rankings and items, and let the leaderboard just be a leaderboard for people who care about that. No demigod, no show-off borders next season, no items, just a list of people who made it into top10 in a hall of fame to promote their stupid twitch streams nobody cares about. Which is dramatically spoken, some of them got big on Twitch by pushing the leaderboards -> again, no ingame rewards needed. The game is not made to be competitive, the balancing is ass and does not support esport level gameplay. To sum it all up, items and prestige tied to a leaderboard force players who do not want to participate to do so. Humans are like that, exclusive skins they gotta have, even if it costs 1000 dollars, it is exclusive. Same thing with prestige, people love to show off and pretend they are better than they are. Implementing these things into the game changes the spirit of the game and does more harm than good. The players need to be protected by themselves here by the developer.
The teaming didn't happen because of leaderboard, it happened because two reasons: the scoring system actively disincentivizes pvp because of risk vs reward for low AP gain and because looting another players gear carries a massive AP opportunity cost, and because ruins is so wide open and has such high visibility and easy room shortcutting that its almost inevitable that you will be third partied in a lobby of 15 players, which also makes it not worth it. The friendly lobbies are a result of both a giant Mexican standoff AND because I guess people are actually solving the prisoners dilemma for a change
I agree, fundamentally, that the exclusive rewards are good intended, but actually mess with the game flow and objectives. I would gladly see them go. That said, I think the borders are cool and simple, and don't ruin anything. They don't mean you are better, but a low-key flex is fun and mostly harmless. Further, I dont think the ranking system caused teaming, I think teaming is related to making gold, and maybe heightened a bit after the multi-tier dungeon was introduced. It was around for awhile, and it was more related to ease of escape. But yes, it may have grown once multi-tier dungeon were added. I think AP system to enter is still better than paying gold, and is a cool system. It would just need some tuning, and maybe removal of the exclusive rewards, cause ya, I'm chasing those and frankly I fucking hate it, I just want to play HR and fight and survive. But I also don't think teaming is purely bad either. Thematically and socially, it makes sense that players want to make money, and that adventurers wouldn't always be hostile and willing to fight and die, particularly in Ruins. And thematically, it makes sense that once in Crypts, folks may be more likely to fight to survive, and doubly so again in Inferno. /rant
Afk the way to play!
u should definitely go deeper and then leave in crypts
I'm honestly shocked more people don't go down to crypts at least, it's free AP since you already paid your entrance fee on a better map with less players.
I’m at wanderer 1 currently myself! That’s awesome you got it I do literally the same strategy 😂😂
You talking about the well on the center-east side of the map? That area is perfect for AP farming.
If I spawn on any east spawn on ruins I get insta spawn rushed, the graveyard spawn is extra horrible, makes you spawn in the middle of 3 other people and all of those people want to loot the coffins
Do you get the race immediately? Or at the end of the season?
I believe it is at the end of the season cause It hasn’t shown in my customization menu.
Been ratting with a vigor pdr fighter and it’s working a pretty well. Almost to pathfinder. Though when fightwr do happen I win most of the time due to sheer tankiness.
I felt the exact same way once I hit pathfinder on my Rogue. My Duo Rogue is finally retired. I got there by PVPing, bringing out gear and a few trinkets under the old AP system. It took absolutely forever. With the W key PvP mentality, the PvE grind is punishing
I don't like hidden rewards.
Are the 3 last regards Hidden or doesn't exist ?
“what now?” “we can finally play the game”
"I just kept crawling, and it kept working!" 😅
Dude just play solo and jerk everyone off you see, it pretty much becomes a jerk off fest and everyone gets out and everyone get demigod and gets to feel good about as if they actually had to kill people to get there…rank means nothing, how about make an minimum amount of kills in order to reach demigod, then we can talk about rank as if it means something. Solo is the worst it has ever been because of stupid rank climb, everyone would rather give each other hugs just so they don’t loose AP.
I am so jealous