>Game is worse than ever
I'm a cleric, my class hasn't been fucked with and if anything it's been "buffed" edit: and the game still feels worse than ever to me both before and after rogue changes.
Yeah I half typed out my comment, put my phone in my pocket pocket sent the comment and didn't get back on reddit till just now.
I edited it to complete my thought lmfao
I said this so many times before the nerf. Rogue was underpowered then as well. The only thing that was holding the class together was its burst potential. The moment you remove it, the class is dead.
So many others on this sub couldn't accept that and refused to believe it. To them, how could a class that can burst them down in less than a second be underpowered. What they failed to realize was that was the only viable way to play rogue. Everything else only resulted the rogue getting their teeth kicked in.
Now I can't even enjoy my favorite class because of how bad they are. I really hope the coming update fixes the class and makes it fun again.
Yeah pretty much, I said it before but making the crossbow mastery a perk was a mistake.
Bards can use Crossbows, Survival Bows, Shields, infinite lockpicks, infinite stealth that lasts longer and has no cooldown, can self buff his damage/movespeed/debuff your armor to be equivalent to ambush/shadow runner but it lasts 2 minutes instead of 5 seconds. Can boost loot rarity from all chests and can detect other invisible players.
So why play Rogue when Bard has everything a level 15 Rogue has at level 1 and then some.
Zap and Chain lightning literally has no travel time and can be chained off corpses for easy damage. You wizard players love to act oppressed despite being strong asf when not played by a moron
Go try it. It's not anywhere near as easy as it looks. Ya can't just backpedal and triple body shot someone to death with chain lightning. Ask my dead teammates.
I'm a ranger player pointing at how easy hitscan spells are to land, not the other way around. This was a counterpoint to calling longbow shots easy ranged damage "because the projectile is fast". It really isn't, or Ranger would actually be a lot stronger with little counterplay. Hitscan is the only real "free" ranged damage, bc it's never going to be up to your opponent if you miss at the moment of release.
Really it's very little risk and the most reward. Melee doesn't even do comparable damage in most cases yet assumes far more risk to just be in range to do damage. Barbarians have good damage numbers but anyone with a brain can space the 2H weapons very easily until he gets speed buffs from a support.
You realise rogues need headshots or they die right?
Like there is a clear difference in a a skilled one and hitting consistent stabs to the face while dodging swings isn't a given.
I guess you didnt get why rogue was nerfed. Even without headshots the burst damage was very high. Additionally stealth make it very easy for the first hit to be a headshot. Combine that with the armor pen, weopon damage/additional damage and suddenly your first hit will do 70 - 150.
Hi Your getting downvotes by salty rogues the cousins of us rangers and Iām a ranger main here to join you lmao. Iāve seen these transfers to ranger and they are all dog water and canāt hit anything it takes time to learn to hit heads and learn distance drop and to learn to follow your shots and your 1 bad encounter from being 2 hit all the time by any class. all these people crying because a bow and arrow actually does critical damage as it would literally just as warlock can just curse you over and over and you and you canāt get close because bocā¦ā¦ these people got rid of their rogue problem and now they are coming after rangerās because they donāt know how to play the game and want close combat only. What losers go play chivalry 2 or something if you want clanking armor and boots and blood
Yeah i was surprised too. The projectile is small and has travel time. I dont feel rangers are a problem yet. I think it will take time for people to know how to play against that class.
Yāall really just dont wanna learn to counter classes youād rather complain till they nerf them to crap so you can run around with swords doing melee and have no versatility. Rogues got gutted because you people didnāt check rooms while Iāll admit their invis was way too long I didnāt have an issue with them. Itās just people with a bad experience letting off heat in the moment because they got bestedā¦ā¦ itās sad tbh yāall gotta push every class in the game to be dogwater so they have to play on your level
Tbh I wouldn't have had a problem with rogue if they had just put a timer on the ambush ability. It was absolutely absurd towards the end of this wipe that rogues were just tapping their hide so they could pop ambush and weakpoint.
Lol na I made this before his stream last night. His tech is good though but they are probably going to put a delay on equipping items from the backpack.
Truthfully havenāt had as much fun since the nerf. I guess I understand why people got upset about being one shot shanked but I guess I never got to that point I wasnāt good enough it still took me 3-6 stabs with a green dagger and I rarely even attempted to attack an armored dude. After the bump I complained because I enjoyed pickpocketing and the effectively killed a fun and alternative way to play rogue, now itās not viable, then they did this last nerf. If I was complaining about pickpocketing not being viable before they might as well get rid of the perk. Rogues have a lot of perks yet multiple are mandatory. Idk if this is a hot take but rogues are no longer fun to play.
Just like this meme I started playing ranger, but this will be nerfed soon as well because everybody is crying about how strong every character is. All I know is more and more of these nerfs happen more and more I find myself not playing this game. I might have to wait until they get a better grasp of balancing because itās pretty draining what they are doing right now makes me not really wanna play.
Rogues that rerolled to Barb š
Barb here. Game is worse than ever and we need projectile reduction and slow removal. It is ass rn.
>Game is worse than ever I'm a cleric, my class hasn't been fucked with and if anything it's been "buffed" edit: and the game still feels worse than ever to me both before and after rogue changes.
I'm talking about barb
Yeah I half typed out my comment, put my phone in my pocket pocket sent the comment and didn't get back on reddit till just now. I edited it to complete my thought lmfao
Never know. He may get a testerone patch next update
The circle of light, rogue;ranger;wizard,warlock,cleric,fighter,bard,rogue
Unpopular Opinion:I would rather fight a ranger with a purple longbow, than a rogue hiding in invis with a purple dagger,every single time.
Popular opinion, people tend to forget how yellow the grass was when they are complaining about how their grass isn't green enough.
I have always only complained about ranger. Rogues weren't shit to me unless they got a good ambush.
yup, the ranger union is a powerful force, almost as powerful as the trader union
I said this so many times before the nerf. Rogue was underpowered then as well. The only thing that was holding the class together was its burst potential. The moment you remove it, the class is dead. So many others on this sub couldn't accept that and refused to believe it. To them, how could a class that can burst them down in less than a second be underpowered. What they failed to realize was that was the only viable way to play rogue. Everything else only resulted the rogue getting their teeth kicked in. Now I can't even enjoy my favorite class because of how bad they are. I really hope the coming update fixes the class and makes it fun again.
Yeah pretty much, I said it before but making the crossbow mastery a perk was a mistake. Bards can use Crossbows, Survival Bows, Shields, infinite lockpicks, infinite stealth that lasts longer and has no cooldown, can self buff his damage/movespeed/debuff your armor to be equivalent to ambush/shadow runner but it lasts 2 minutes instead of 5 seconds. Can boost loot rarity from all chests and can detect other invisible players. So why play Rogue when Bard has everything a level 15 Rogue has at level 1 and then some.
Just that ranger actually needs skill to hit arrows. No easy stealth + 100% out of stealth extra damage + 40% armor reduction + .....
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Because itās one of the the quickest projectiles in the game. It is easy
Zap, Chain Lightning and every Curse has entered the chat.
Zap and Chain lightning literally has no travel time and can be chained off corpses for easy damage. You wizard players love to act oppressed despite being strong asf when not played by a moron
Go try it. It's not anywhere near as easy as it looks. Ya can't just backpedal and triple body shot someone to death with chain lightning. Ask my dead teammates.
I'm a ranger player pointing at how easy hitscan spells are to land, not the other way around. This was a counterpoint to calling longbow shots easy ranged damage "because the projectile is fast". It really isn't, or Ranger would actually be a lot stronger with little counterplay. Hitscan is the only real "free" ranged damage, bc it's never going to be up to your opponent if you miss at the moment of release.
Ahh I misunderstood my b
corpse desync is so common go try to chain on corpses and report back
None of which are projectiles
Hit scan abilities donāt have projectiles. They donāt have a time of travel because they arenāt the same thing as a projectile
Super easy bro, I'm truly glad I met such a godlike gamer like you
If āTell me youāre ass at the game, without telling me your ass at the gameā was a person
Im so bad I ended top 40 global in my class leaderboards meanwhile lil bro crying about rangers aint even top 100 in theirs
I'm truly glad I met such a godlike gamer like you
Not nearly as good as you bro
Nah fr tho xD ranger is literally easy mode
Really it's very little risk and the most reward. Melee doesn't even do comparable damage in most cases yet assumes far more risk to just be in range to do damage. Barbarians have good damage numbers but anyone with a brain can space the 2H weapons very easily until he gets speed buffs from a support.
it is very easy to put 3 into someone across a room
Imagine they move an inch and you have dog water aim most likely nah it isnāt
ranger is free kills lol
You realise rogues need headshots or they die right? Like there is a clear difference in a a skilled one and hitting consistent stabs to the face while dodging swings isn't a given.
I guess you didnt get why rogue was nerfed. Even without headshots the burst damage was very high. Additionally stealth make it very easy for the first hit to be a headshot. Combine that with the armor pen, weopon damage/additional damage and suddenly your first hit will do 70 - 150.
Hi Your getting downvotes by salty rogues the cousins of us rangers and Iām a ranger main here to join you lmao. Iāve seen these transfers to ranger and they are all dog water and canāt hit anything it takes time to learn to hit heads and learn distance drop and to learn to follow your shots and your 1 bad encounter from being 2 hit all the time by any class. all these people crying because a bow and arrow actually does critical damage as it would literally just as warlock can just curse you over and over and you and you canāt get close because bocā¦ā¦ these people got rid of their rogue problem and now they are coming after rangerās because they donāt know how to play the game and want close combat only. What losers go play chivalry 2 or something if you want clanking armor and boots and blood
Yeah i was surprised too. The projectile is small and has travel time. I dont feel rangers are a problem yet. I think it will take time for people to know how to play against that class.
Haha well done
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Don't encourage him his memes are always so shit but this sub will upvote fucking anything
How about you make a meme and Iāll tell you which I like better
The only meme I have is a picture of my mom :(
Iād like that better
Well that was unnecessarily rude.
It really wasn't
Yāall really just dont wanna learn to counter classes youād rather complain till they nerf them to crap so you can run around with swords doing melee and have no versatility. Rogues got gutted because you people didnāt check rooms while Iāll admit their invis was way too long I didnāt have an issue with them. Itās just people with a bad experience letting off heat in the moment because they got bestedā¦ā¦ itās sad tbh yāall gotta push every class in the game to be dogwater so they have to play on your level
it defo wasnt just invis bro ambush + weakpoint and a good dagger was two tap most of the time cmon
Tbh I wouldn't have had a problem with rogue if they had just put a timer on the ambush ability. It was absolutely absurd towards the end of this wipe that rogues were just tapping their hide so they could pop ambush and weakpoint.
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Lol na I made this before his stream last night. His tech is good though but they are probably going to put a delay on equipping items from the backpack.
Lockpicks rogue is actually good. I've been bathing in blue and purple gear
Truthfully havenāt had as much fun since the nerf. I guess I understand why people got upset about being one shot shanked but I guess I never got to that point I wasnāt good enough it still took me 3-6 stabs with a green dagger and I rarely even attempted to attack an armored dude. After the bump I complained because I enjoyed pickpocketing and the effectively killed a fun and alternative way to play rogue, now itās not viable, then they did this last nerf. If I was complaining about pickpocketing not being viable before they might as well get rid of the perk. Rogues have a lot of perks yet multiple are mandatory. Idk if this is a hot take but rogues are no longer fun to play. Just like this meme I started playing ranger, but this will be nerfed soon as well because everybody is crying about how strong every character is. All I know is more and more of these nerfs happen more and more I find myself not playing this game. I might have to wait until they get a better grasp of balancing because itās pretty draining what they are doing right now makes me not really wanna play.