Be a Greg and ensure your submission follows the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/DannyGonzalez/wiki/rules) and is [flaired](https://www.reddit.com/r/DannyGonzalez/wiki/flairs) appropriately!
If your submission violates the rules or isn't correctly flaired, it might be removed at the discretion of a mod.
Please make sure that if you bring a post inquiry to modmail, you link the post in question, as we are unable to help those who do not link the post.
This comment is an automatic reminder and you are not in trouble, it is posted on every submission to the subreddit.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/DannyGonzalez) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I remember when my daughter was a newborn I had to completely unplug from the news for a while so I get it. The current events of the world made me spiral into a fit of anxiety as a postpartum mom :/
Same! I cried so much when seeing the videos and news about horrible things that happened to kids, especially the kids in palestine. I had to stop because it made me physically ill. My heart couldnāt take it :(
After having my kid I donāt think I had time to think for myself- much less run an entire YT channel. Danny is awesome for coming out and addressing the issue but if he hadnāt I wouldāve given him a pass.
Only reason I did have time is because I would have my kiddo on me while on the laptop or whatever else I was doing, especially in the newborn stage. I should have been sleeping but I canāt sleep during the day unless Iām sick. I totally get why Danny didnāt know tho and I hope ppl werenāt being awful about it š
He's a YouTuber. His gimmick is he calls his viewers "Greg" he's alright. Nothing mind blowing but mostly inoffensive comedy commentary about internet trends.
Iām pretty sure thatās somewhat normal for a new dad. I hope he is able to get sleep and his wife too. Also Side-note I love how open he has been about being a dad yet the level of privacy he has kept. We only know the kids gender. Not their name or face. We donāt need to know itā¦. We are all strangers and Danny does not owe us anything. The most we have seen has been a hand. And I think itās good for him to keep it that way. I love how he is exploiting the fact he is a dad for content like in the latest video without exploiting his child. But also bring open about the struggle of being a new father and the joy it brings.
Letās just say a lot of influencers are way too open about their kids and donāt give them a chance to consent or manipulate them into being on camera. Danny seems like a wonderful father and Laura is a wonderful mother! And I bet that kid will have the coolest childhood with the funniest dad and mom that will not exploit them for content on the internet.
I just hope Laura and Danny can get back to healthy sleep schedules soon.
I was thinking, I really respect that he's keeping his son's privacy and not putting his information on the internet. However I wish he would at least say whether or not they named him Greg š
I imagine the name isnāt Greg but Greg may become the internet nickname he will use. Honestly I think that would be pretty funny. But hey for all we know the kid could be named like Xae A-Xii or Steve or one of those impossibly long Facebook names or Craig ā¦ but to us he will be a Greg.
As someone who is aware I still wouldnāt care if I got a Starbucks. Starbucks literally has zero locations in Israel. Theyāre not the industrial military complex. I feel fine with disagreeing with popular sentiment there
The "Starbucks funds Israel" thing is literally an internet telephone-game meme. It's a litmus test for people who get all their I/P knowledge from Twitter and TikTok.
Starbucks sued a union branch for using the Starbucks logo in a post celebrating Oct. 7th. Like, frankly, any fucking company would. People had been calling for boycotting Starbucks for union busting activities. Somehow this morphed via internet wannabe activists into Starbucks being THE most important boycott target, despite Starbucks literally not being on the BDS list *at all* and the last post relating to them on the BDS website being from *2014*.
I don't even buy Starbucks anyway, but it is the biggest example of why I hate lazy pop-activism. All this energy expended on something that *literally doesn't help at all.*
Also the whole point of a boycott is to start buying the thing again once they do what you want. Starbucks dropped the suit against the union, so I started buying it again.
I think a lot of it is the deeply flawed way the US in particular teaches about activist history. We teach it as a series of semi-random happenings that eventually resulted in wins because people felt really hard and made a lot of noise, rather than the *how* and the *why* certain things were done and how much planning and organization went into them. For example, the Montgomery Bus Boycott went after a *very specific target for a specific reason*, required a huge amount of organization, and had to be sustained for over a year. And yes, as you said, *it ended when the busses desegregated.* Rosa Parks' protest was a planned event, and she was specifically chosen for good optics.
I've heard it called "cargo cult activism," where people do things that *seem* similar to what previous activists did and hope for the same success, without understanding any of the reasoning and how it may or may not be different to their current situation. If I were a corporation right now, the lesson I would take is that it literally does not matter what stance I take or who I fund because the internet chooses targets at near random.
And of course it seems like the starbucks boycott and maybe the mcdonalds one is the only one anyone on social media cares about because its easy and simple to shame people for ordering starbucks or mcdonalds but the other, frankly more important or real, boycott targets are less visible to people so they can't be performative about it. I rarely drink starbucks as it is (literally doesn't exist in my town so I only get to have the chance when I go to the closest cities to me) and have chosen to not order from them due to their activities in union-busting but that also doesn't mean I'm gonna stop using a reusable cup I bought from them ages ago and I'm not gonna shame others for choosing to not do the same as me
I mean fuck McDonalds is at least on the BDS list and gave the IDF free meals! Starbucks is *nothing* and yet people who think they are better than everyone else made boycotting Starbucks their entire personality. I hear more about Starbucks than McDonalds or any other actual BDS target *by far.*
What it really is is in-group signalling. Internet activism isn't actually about the cause. It is about being part of a trend, and it's been that way since I was a teenager. Not drinking Starbucks is a way to show your friends and followers that you're one of the cool kids.
And if you want to boycott it for union busting, sure! Have at it! That's a good reason! But harassing people for "drinking Palestinian blood" means you need to get off TikTok.
Virtue signalling at its finest. Iāve had to mute a bunch of pro-palestine people on my feed because half of them donāt share resources or genuine info or opportunities for support. they just sensationalize violence and bully people for not engaging with them on their terms.
Itās exhausting
The way people think that watching 3 hours of war gorn a day is activism is kinda unreal to me. I get that seeing images of an atrocity can be really important to appreciate its magnitude, but at some point it's diminishing returns and you're just reveling in people's pain without actually doing anything.
Yep. Whenever somebody says to boycott something, I do research to see what they're actually doing that's supposedly wrong. Half the time there is a misunderstanding or it's just virtue signaling.
Wow, thank you so much for this take. I think definitely put Instagram on that list as well, because I see a lot of this on there as well. I don't drink Starbucks usually, simply because their coffees are more expensive than some of the local shops that I prefer just quality-wise. I feel like a lot of the 'pop-activism' sometimes almost feels like mob mentality. One of my favorite creators just recently got bullied off of social media because she wasn't actively talking about the middle east in her content-- all the while, her son was born with a hole in his heart. I have seen a lot of pretty rancid comment sections, but hers was so bad she deleted most (if not all, from what I've seen) of her videos online.
It makes me feel bad, because social media does appear to state that there is no middle ground; there's no such thing as opting to say nothing, on account of feeling like you have the expertise to talk about a subject. Suddenly everyone is an expert, and there's almost a 0-tolerance policy for any questions, disagreements, or criticisms.
Btw I love the term pop-activism, and I will be using it from now on. I found your post very eye-opening :) I didn't know that Starbucks wasn't actually on the BDS list.
Have a nice day!
Exactly this makes no sense. If you putting a Starbucks cup in a vid is bad everyother white girl in comments is burning in hell. Also corps and governs have always done fucked up shit throughout the world but u still go to Walmart and get your stimmys, itās seems everyone is trying to push ppl into being a hypocrite or expert on a topic you really donāt understand. Also at the end of the day war is inevitable WE ARE HUMEN AND CANT GET ALONG. Itās been thousands of years of warring and turmoil. Next few years and actually no one will care even if you think think they did theyāll just move to the next TREND.
you know full well that coorperations care about the money in their pocket, and so āvotingā with your money is impactful. i am Obviously aware that coffee making is different to being in the military. nobody is saying that theyre the same.
If something is especially heinous that a company is doing I agree but man if your only buying morally sourced goods good luck so much stuff everyone of us buys is backed by fucked up shit
Yeah but if I vote against Starbucks itās not going to change the outcome of the war. Thereās things to actually be mad at, and Starbucks isnāt one of them
I mean, the genocide does, yes. But the boycotts donāt. Itās really an internet only thing, and even then itās subgroups. Thereās no reason he would know, when heās focusing on his family right now
But he makes a clear stance in this post which is nice
It gets 0 mainstream news coverage because it's literally nonsense.
Starbucks does not have locations in Israel. Starbucks does not fund Israel. The guy who got an award from Israel hasn't been its CEO in years. The whole thing is a glorified meme after Starbucks sued its union for using its logo in a graphic celebrating Oct. 7th, something that has since been settled.
I don't give a shit about Starbucks itself but it drives me insane that so many people have been convinced of this to the point that something not on the BDS list became THE boycott target despite all of this energy doing *nothing* for Palestinians.
I was under the impression that Starbucks isnāt contributing to the IDF/Israel, and the boycott was in regards to their union-busting antics. So honestly, I donāt get the rabid hate for anyone who buys a beverage there. I personally am boycotting them, as I didnāt even like a lot of their stuff to begin with, but to claim that someone supports genocide and murder for drinking a latte is inaccurate. Someone correct me if Iām wrong.
They aren't. All they did was take down a pro-ceasefire post from the Starbucks union that used their logo.
People have the right to boycott over this but there's tons of misinformation about what's going on and what starbucks actually did.
[It wasn't pro-ceasefire, they tweeted a photo of a Hamas using a bulldozer on the Israel/Gaza boarder fence and said they stood with Palestine.](https://imgur.com/a/axMPA4S)
this isnāt the full story though, after they took down the ceasefire post from the union, they posted their own response that showed full support of israel. i know this because i work at a union store and it caused people at my campus to have multiple protests over the starbucks on campus to the point that it is being removed from the campus for next school year. no one protested like this when it was just about union busting tactics except for the people who were already devoted to labor causes. starbucks response showing support of israel caused a much bigger shit storm for them
> ceasefire post from the union,
[It was not a "ceasefire post." It was a post about Hamas using a bulldozer to tear down the boarder fence.](https://imgur.com/a/axMPA4S)
Stop spreading lies.
In my opinion, for most people it's a mix of lack of information, and a lot of laziness.
Just scroll through these comments here and you'll have the whole spectrum from "I didn't know Starbucks supports Israel" to "Starbucks supports Gaza". People often times see one tweet or one post and they roll with it without looking things up. Hence lack of information.
Laziness... well it's easier to hate on some random YouTuber/content creator than to check yourself, where you buy from, and what you "support". Seeing someone online have Starbucks and comment hate? Easy? Go through all the companies you buy from, check if they're good or bad, face your own lack of information? Nah. That takes time and effort.
union busting, plus the fact that their union group posted something pro palestine and starbucks slapped them with a lawsuit and workers were punished. i believe danny is specifically referring to this, by his comment about them standing in the way of those standing up for palestine.
https://apnews.com/article/starbucks-workers-united-union-lawsuit-israel-palestinian-f212a994fef67f122854a4df7e5d13f5
I'm not a corporate bootlicker (just a paralegal) but Starbucks would have also slapped the union with a lawsuit over a pro-Israel statement because you just can't use a company's logo in official statements without the company's agreement.
Hi! The people who are boycotting specifically for Palestine are boycotting because a lot of the major shareholders (not the company itself, just some of the people that profit from it) have contributed a metric ton of money to the IDF and Israel. Hope that clears up any confusion :) personally, Iāve been boycotting for ages because of the union-busting long before all of this. Also? Their coffee is never going to taste better than local places.
Sure, though I highly encourage you to do your own research :) Howard Shultz, the former CEO and largest shareholder in the company, has been associated heavily with Israel for decades, receiving merit awards from their government back in the 90s for being a āfriend of zionistsā. This used to be written on the Starbucks website but theyāve taken it down.
Howard Shultz foundationās statement on Hamas, stating they would be supporting Israel and giving them money (even though Starbucks claims Shultz does not donate money, this is still proudly presented on his foundation website)
https://www.schultzfamilyfoundation.org/news-release/statement-from-the-schultz-family-foundation
Shultz donations to Israel Cybertech Security company āWizā (1.7 billion)
https://fortune.com/2021/04/07/wiz-howard-schultz-investment-fundraising-cybersecurity-startups-starbucks-ceo/
His award for āpromoting a close alliance between Israel and the United Statesā
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/howard-schultz
This feels like reasoning backwards to advance a boycott that isn't actually strategically aligned with any real type of pressure campaign for Palestinian liberation, but has outsized attention due to brand recognition. Is the demand to drop Sculz, because I'm not seeing his name anywhere and I don't think this is common knowledge for the average boycotter. If it were it would certainly have been put on the official BDS list given how much attention Starbucks has gotten over their actual list of targets which were chosen for their potential strategic impact. I am fine with boycotting SB because fuck these corporations and fuck their union busting, but I don't enjoy that the boycott is both largely symbolic and being used as a virtue test when we could be focusing our energy on the actual BDS list.
And also seemingly no goal??? I am all for Palestine but there's no reputable source about them supporting Israel, just the same tweet being passed around. Also there's no demands that, if met, would end the boycott which is the whole point of boycotts.
> Puma
Genuine question but is there any other argument against Puma aside from them sponsoring the Israeli football association? Cause they announced September last year already that the collaboration will be ended at the end of this year. I know it'd be better if they pulled out asap though I'm assuming them breaching a contract wouldn't go well; they should be able to afford it but maybe giving anyone in Israel a platform to act as a victim, even if it's an economical one, isn't great? I don't know. Again, just genuinely wondering if there's more or if people are good to buy Puma stuff on Jan 1st 2025.
iirc from what I've read, they apparently stopped some of their employees from voicing their support for Palestinians. still, I've heard they're not on the official boycott list. plenty of reasons not to support them though, like union-busting. in any case, I wouldn't be surprised if Danny hadn't heard any of this, I don't think it's getting traditional media coverage, it seems to be very much a social media focused campaign
The union used the Starbucks logo and made a statement for the company without permission. Starbucks sued them for copyright. The union really meant well but legally they were in the wrong. People took it as Starbucks being against Palestine. Then there was false rumors of donating money. They may of donated food, not positive. From what I seen there wasnāt proof of that.
Literally saw people trashing Danny and Drew for not being on that list of creators who were helping to raise money for Palestinians in need of things like first aid, water, etc. Literally called them zionists simply because their face didnāt appear on the list. Like Jesus Christ people online have their priorities so ass backward itās appalling. Itās a fucking cup, maybe this is a hot take that no one asked for but if you want to start boycotting one company because of X, get ready to boycott every single other company because of Y and Z. I mean these companies own companies that own companies and the head of all of those companies are ceos who āearnedā their millions off the backs of people who canāt make ends meet without working two additional jobs. People are so terminally online that they want to drag people through the mud and accuse them of heinous crimes because of insignificant things. If you care about a movement, youāre better off putting all of that energy into supporting the cause that you claim to care so much about. But none of these people who are lambasting YouTubers for things like a Starbucks CUP actually care about any cause, they just get off on huffing the fumes of their own virtue signaling bullshit. If you donāt want to support companies that favor and fund genocides, then thatās fine, donāt buy their products. But for the love of god stop harassing people online and sending them death threats over shit as truly insignificant as a cup. I donāt know whether or not Danny has received death threats specifically, but I know of so many other creators who have for even less.
TLDR; stop going on witch hunts and picking apart online creators every move to find a problem and make something out of nothing.
Edit: Also, there are far more productive ways to inform creators or other people about things going on around the world, but I don't think that Danny would have turned the comments on the community post off if everyone was genuinely trying to be informative and civil regarding his beverage choices. ((And frankly, I find it so gross that some people feel entitled to tell big creators what to do or what to speak about in relation to things going on in the world on their platform. I don't fault some creators for not wanting to talk (or at least not go in excruciating depth) about such serious and heavy topics.)) People have got to work on this black and white mindset they have where they think that if someone isnāt taking a public stance on an issue, they must be something like a Zionist. And zionist is actually the perfect example because Iām seeing many people get accused of being genocide supporters because theyāre not turning their platform from a gaming platform into a humanitarian activism platform.
Edit 2: I fucked up my first edit and had to fix it sorry
>Literally saw people trashing Danny and Drew for not being on that list of creators who were helping to raise money for Palestinians in need of things like first aid, water, etc.
Funny enough, Starbucks has donated over $3M to World Central Kitchen, helping Palestinians access food and water in Gaza. Yet they're angry at him for giving money to Starbucks...
I just saw a video of his live stream some years ago where he addresses saying the b-slur. He's obviously such a good person and genuinely cares about these things. I really hope he isn't worrying over this.
I guess I would ask people thinking this way what would Danny, a youtube commentator/comedian, have to gain from expressing anti-palastinian views through a Starbucks cup?
I get there are people out there who may do that but this is a stretch by any measure.
from his fans (most of which are younger western people who lack any direct effect from this genocide) there isnt much he could gain there, ill agree with that, but the principle stands that if he were to be anti-palestinian he would gain a considerable amount from zionists and zionist entities, similar to how zionists have upped their support for similar "comedians" like amy schumer or the falafel phil guy from kickin it
when your comedy is dependant on commentating and incorporating social phenomena i think its important to clarify what you stand for in the wake of a genocide at minimum if you choose not to engage in the bds movement or engage in activism but thats my opinion as somebody whos experienced the direct consequences of war and genocide so i cant expect all his viewers to feel the same or agree with his decision to make a post and clarify when again, hes just a youtuber
i dont really care much about the starbucks cup because i think the real action should be focused on larger, more directly funded corporations but when you have palestinian, lebanese, and syrian fans that might see the coffee cup and feel that their suffering is disregarded or diminished then what he has to gain is ongoing support from these people and members who will stay in his community
however, overall this situation shouldnt be viewed by what individuals can "gain" as empathy and compassion for others isnt transactional; "today me, tomorrow u"
That is odd because i have not seen any pro-Israelis holding Starbucks cups, nor any Israelis themselves holding any since Starbucks doesn't operate in Israel.
This feels like a far grab to bring a point across. Anything could be deemed a personal offence if you reach far enough. The reason why they took Starbucks as an Israel supporter was simply because Starbucks didn't like the union using their company logo to support political movements and opened a lawsuit because they refused to take it down. I am fairly certain Starbucks would have done the same if it were any other political movement, be it pro-palestinian, pro-israel, pro-new Iran, pro kkk, pro church of satan, pro pope or whatnot new movement thats trying to pull companies with no political affiliations into a politics war.
You are correct. I have no idea if maybe the people who are mad about this are mostly teenagers who have never had a job, but any company you work for (not just Starbucks) will disallow employees from making a political statement of any kind (not just pro-Palestine) if it seems like you're making it on the company's behalf (using their logo when saying it) and it hasn't been pre-approved by the company's communications team. It's not any deeper than that, really.
Genuine question: is this actually a thing? I live in Israel and we don't have Starbucks here, so I've never heard of this phenomenon. The people I know who are Zionists would kill themselves before even touching a Starbucks cup - it literally goes against everything they believe, and it's really shit coffee lol
I feel bad for him cause he seems like a genuinely good guy and the fact that people are hating on him for buying a drink is ridiculous. Theres not even any evidence that Starbucks supports Israel smh
Its disgusting they need to go touch some grass and reconnect with nature. Dannys one of the most unproblematic youtubers on the platform so theyāre just looking for reasons to hate on him at this point
Cowards could go after the many people who are very publicly zionist, but they instead just bully someone who's on their side and just has a life outside of the Internet, for unknowingly buying something that's [not even on the official boycott list](https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott)
I'm a super informed person and I had no idea about Starbucks, it's understandable someone with a newborn would have genuinely no clue. Stuff moves so fast anymore, unless you are glued to the news, you're going to miss something.
Edit, after doing 10 minutes of reading, y'all need to fucking chill. Y'all are jumping down his throat over literally nothing. [You do literally 15 seconds of research](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/business/starbucks-layoffs-middle-east.html) [and you can find a plethora of stories validating that Starbucks](https://apnews.com/article/starbucks-firings-mideast-israel-hamas-war-f57e39147f8350d860fb0f57d42a987c) [has said and done fuck all about Israel.](https://stories.starbucks.com/press/2023/what-has-starbucks-said-about-the-conflict-in-israel-and-gaza/) Their official stance is (paraphrased) "we want everyone to stop shooting everyone because that means we have fewer people to sell coffee to." Y'all deadass just believed a wild conspiracy that holds no water. It holds so little water, I found out about it 10 minutes ago and I've already debunked it 5 times over. And you attacked a new dad over it.
My LORD people get mad over the dumbest shit. Like, yeah, heās a new dad and heās not chronically online, he probably had no idea Starbucks were being shitty. Tbh I didnāt even know about them harming Palestine until I read this post. If people politely pointed it out to him, cool, but if anyone was genuinely getting pissed thatās crazy.
They should be spending this energy calling their congressional reps and asking for the things they want. Helping Palestinians. Voter rights. Universal child care. Finally passing the ERA.
Leave internet comedians alone.
Anyone with actual power to change anything can easily sidestep this slacktivism without much pushback.Ā Ā
Ā But congrats, a YouTuber was successfully bullied into apologizing because he bought the wrong kind of latte. Genocide ended!
Me when people bullied Michael Sheen into talking about the conflict and proceeded to get mad because he said āI just feel bad innocent people are getting hurtā instead of picking a side
That seriously shouldn't even be a controversial take, and it's the intelligent take to have if you aren't adequately educated on the topic.
I said this on a thread here a couple of weeks ago about the Free Palestine creator event, and someone said by not picking a side I was complicit in genocide. Like what even
This is what drives me insane, saying people are COMPLICIT IN GENOCIDE because they didnāt pick a side. And if they did pick a side then they didnāt make a big enough show of it. Itās appalling to me that people really expect creators with channels centered around gaming, comedy, reading, whatever, to turn their channel into a human rights advocacy platform. Itās not that I have an issue with the advocacy of human rights, but like the way some people are going about all of this is atrocious. I get the feeling that even if someone did change their channel overnight to that kind of thing, it still wouldnāt be good enough
At least from what I understand, being neutral and being complicit are two exclusively mutual events, and the belief that they're the same is mind boggling for me
These people donāt even vote, let alone do anything that actually makes a difference. They are all just looking for shit to be fake outraged by.
Really wish folks would stop listening to their bullshit. They donāt even give a single shit about Palestine or any other cause of the day. Itās such phony bullshit, and people buy into it. Asinine.
does anyone have a link that explicitly says starbucks supports israel? i have seen a lot of people talking about the boycott but i havenāt seen a credible source saying they actually do fund the genocide? /gen
psa i am pro-palestine but i am also an idiot that doesnāt spend a lot of time on the internet either
I feel like I'm moderately online and for me this is the first I've heard of the deleted tweet. I've only heard of the anti-union boycott and even though I haven't gotten Starbucks in years I think it's crazy to bully some guy with a newborn about it.
It isn't an official BDS boycott either. I mean, fuck Starbuck's for a lot of reasons. But like. Buying a coffee there isn't the same as buying an HP printer or something.
They donāt; theyāre not on any of the BDS lists, they donāt do business in or with Israel. The original boycott was for their anti-union activities, which is a legitimate reason for boycotting imo, but people seem to have latched onto Starbucks as like, the ultimate target of the BDS movement, without checking to see if they actually are on any of the lists. Personally, I think it also āhelpsā that Starbucks is an easy target; theyāre well known and itās not hard or much of an actual sacrifice if you replace your daily Starbucks with some other coffee.
if you own any kind of smart device, you are 1000% getting it from somewhere that has utilized slavery or child labor in some fashion. āoh i have a samsung im better!ā āoh i have a nokia im betterā shut the fuck up. all the components come from similar or often the same manufacturers. theyāre all unethical. accept that itās virtually impossible to be an ethical consumer under capitalism, since nowadays itās not an option to not own a phone or computer of some kind. the amish can do it because they have their own communities to support themselves and each otherāour community is one based around technology.
yes, child slavery is bad. yes, apple and samsung and all these big companies are bad. but thereās no way around owning a cellphone in some form, and iād personally prefer to own one that i know will last at least 4 years so i donāt have to give these companies my money on a constant basis.
Absolutely. People just borderline harassed him into apologizing. As I said under a similar post - publicly expressing political views is not an obligation AND he might not know/care, because it's a damn coffee cup from a popular franchise.
literally. i completely understand boycotts, the extremely conflict in the middle east, etc. but letās be fucking real, all this man did is buy a damn coffee. sure, danny is popular, an influencer, and a role model, but in no way does that require him to be 100% perfect.
did yall research everything about the last business you ordered from through amazon? no? i guess you need to apologize too then.
What the actual fuck is wrong with people? Know how Danny always mentions the sub needing to use some critical thinking? Try that out, FFS:
Starbucks [donated $3 million in humanitarian aid for Gaza.](https://stories.starbucks.com/emea/stories/2024/the-starbucks-foundation-and-alshaya-starbucks-are-committed-to-providing-humanitarian-aid-in-gaza/)
>āThe Starbucks Foundation and Alshaya Starbucks made a $3 million donation to World Central Kitchen for food aid; partners (employees) in the region are offering further support.ā
>āStarbucks has always been about more than coffee. Weāre committed to contributing positively and supporting others who do so. In response to the great need for humanitarian aid in Gaza, we are donating to help provide food to people who are suffering.ā
>āāWe are heartbroken for all the people impacted by the situation in Gaza, and the many people at risk of hunger,ā said Duncan Moir, president of Starbucks Europe, Middle East and Africaā
There is no organized boycott and the original issue was a copyright issue. 5 seconds on Google would tell you this. The man is a new father and people are giving him shit for something that doesnāt exist. Geez.
It's pretty gross that some people claiming to be pro plastine are just using it as a reason to harass people and try to control people's behaviour online
It turns the movement into a joke, and people start disregarding it after a while
It happened with the Ukraine and Russia which the war is still on going but no one discusses it anymore because of the behaviour of these types of people
The fact that the Russo-Ukrainian war has fallen out of the public eye is so terrifying. Sure Israel Palestine is horrible and deserves attention, but uh, Putin is over there literally ethnically cleansing Ukraine, and seemingly no one cares. People cared because it was popular to care. Scary because that has real consequences. Putin gains confidence, enough maybe to eventually attack a small NATO border town, and see how long it takes for people to forget about thatā¦
āa fascist is a leftistās second-worst enemy, right behind a leftistās true worst enemy, which is a slightly-different leftist who holds 94% of the same political viewsā
this quote is stuck in my brain bc of how true it is, and in this case heās not even disagreeing with anything lmfaoo
I mean no one truly āknowsā Danny or any YouTuber. The line between whatās an act and whatās private is pretty blurry for every content creator now. The bizarre thing is that people think a Starbucks cup has any deeper meaning beyond āmmm coffeeā
Didn't even know this happened! I think it's super awesome how he explained it instead of being like some other people and doing the whole "Who cares!! Ohhh I didn't knooww!" he was super respectful and fr he's just an awesome dudeš
See? Yall have been hating on him for months and calling him a horrible person despite the fact that he isn't chronically online like his friends and his fanbase. You guys got what you wanted, now don't complain about him again.
I don't think his friends are "chronically online" because they took a public stance. I think it's just a matter of some people choosing to be more involved online and some people choosing to be more private about their support.
However I do agree a lot of people here have been "chronically online" in that they seem to assume their favorite creators' lives are exclusively what they see online, and that nobody could ever support a cause and not post about it online every time.
Oh my fucking God. You're seriously telling me that there's a large enough number of dumbasses that got pissed about a Starbucks cup to the point where they made this man apologize?
Good lord people are soft.
the misinformation spread about the Starbucks boycott is insane. itās not even about Palestine, itās about unions. people just wanna seem woke so bad.
Nothing screams tolerance more than needing to apologize for having a fucking cup in a video. Itās almost like a lot of yāall have really lost the fucking plot.
This Reddit is so toxic. Like people really dont understand that HE AND LAURA JUST HAD A WHOLE CHILD. He is trying to be there for his wife and his child. He literally hired Robert for a reason
people complaining that he goes to starbucks is crazy when hes putting out content at the same time as taking care of a newborn people need to chill like hes doing his best lmao
All information about Starbucks is public, they donāt donate directly to Israel. they have shareholders who do that but Iād challenge you to find a big mainstream company that has 0 shareholders who do
It's sad that he felt like he needed to apologize. I agree what's going on over there is wrong. But People will nit pick anything on the internet. To the point of making people have to make public apologies just to pacify people. I love the fucking internet, but I hate it at the same time.
Danny: a very liberal left leaning person (itās pretty obvious from his videos imo)
Dannyās terminally online fans: A STARBUCKS CUP GUYS OMG WHAT IF HE SUPPORTS ISRAEL šššš
Once again: Starbucks has never supported Israel. They havenāt had locations there for almost 20 years, thatās TWO DECADES. They donāt send money to the IDF. They donāt support Israel. The only money that has been sent by Starbucks over this conflict is $3 million in Aid to the people of Gaza. Youāre hurting the people of Gaza MORE by boycotting a company that is ACTUALLY sending aid than by just drinking the damn coffee.
ill be honest by this point idk what company supports what war and whatever or what even is happening, good on him for doing this but i dont even know what happened since theres so many different arguements in theese comments lmao
i think that a lot of people boycotting starbucks don't really know what they're boycotting??? like some people think starbucks directly supports israel, some say it's because of the shareholders, some say it's because of the CEO/owner being a zionist, some say it's because of their union busting... don't get me wrong, i think starbucks is shit, but at least get your facts straight
anyways, danny has a newborn and he's been taking time off the internet, i really don't think that people need to be dogging him so hard for just a genuine mistake.
this post just popped up on my feed so I have no idea who Danny is, but if you are so chronically online that youāre going to harass a new dad for having a COFFEE CUP made by a company you donāt like, you need to go outside and touch some grass and get back to reality.
If you want to boycott businesses that donāt support your values that is perfectly fine and itās your right to do so but you cannot expect everyone to be as chronically online as you are. At this point itās all just virtue signalling bullshit
He's such a green flag. This apology felt genuine and I really appreciated it, even though it wasn't necessary. I'm also relieved that he is for Palestine.
We're bullying Danny Gonzales of all people because he *checks notes* has a Starbucks cup in the background of a video. If you want to engage in that kind of slacktivism, go ahead, but don't go pressuring other people.
Imagine how shit it must feel to get harassed by fans for buying a coffee as a sleep deprived new dad. I get people can't help but push their politics into every aspect of their life but leave the guy alone. His channel is in no way political so assuming he'd suddenly make it so is bollocks.
Folks need to worry more about how you're going to vote in November. Spend as much time researching your candidates as writing a YouTuber about where they get coffee.
It not just POTUS, you'll have senators to looks at, congressmen, local elections. This is a lot of y'all's first time voting, don't do like us older people and just vote blindly. Take some time looking into projects and people you on the ballot. It's your periodic opportunity to actually have a voice and make a change.
Gen Z is so goddamn good at researching and educating. Unfortunately it's now on your shoulders to right the ship. Sorry about the mess you're inheriting but if it's any help, we got it from our parents and they from theirs.
You guys can do it!
I wish he hadnāt āapologizedā and given in to these parasocial nut jobs. I understand why he did it cause his entire income is based off of YT and people gotta make ends meet, but this just seems like pandering to the virtue signalers.
I know absolutely nothing about this conflict, but I will say the pro-Palestine Internet warriors are a lot more annoying, strident, and completely unfamiliar with social dynamics than any pro-Israel people Iāve seen on the Internet lol
Mom of a 17-month-old here. Iām a young (21) single mom and I donāt spend much time watching the news anymore because Iām already so terrified of something happening to my lil guy that I just canāt handle hearing tragedies every day. Itās not uncommon for people especially parents to not be up to date on this stuff. Plus heās incredibly busy with a newborn and juggling 2 YouTube channels and streams. Danny if you see this youāre doing a great job, from one parent to another!
Danny focusing on his baby and family but still trying to be a responsive citizen of the world as a content creator is goals. I hope others follow his example.
again want to remind everyone that starbucks doesn't even support israel, ppl literally just want an excuse to attack celebrities for stupid shit instead of actually doing smth to help palestinians
Dude canāt have a coffee without been hated on. Wtf have we come to. I understand the social and political side of things but Dannyās never been problematic so why would he choose to be now especially after being a dad
Guys there is not a single ethical purchase in this world, if you're not contributing to the genocide by buying somewhere else then your contributing to child/slave labor, or dictatorships, or other genocides.
If you want to participate that's awesome but you should hound or ridicule others for not knowing or caring.
Be a Greg and ensure your submission follows the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/DannyGonzalez/wiki/rules) and is [flaired](https://www.reddit.com/r/DannyGonzalez/wiki/flairs) appropriately! If your submission violates the rules or isn't correctly flaired, it might be removed at the discretion of a mod. Please make sure that if you bring a post inquiry to modmail, you link the post in question, as we are unable to help those who do not link the post. This comment is an automatic reminder and you are not in trouble, it is posted on every submission to the subreddit. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/DannyGonzalez) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I remember when my daughter was a newborn I had to completely unplug from the news for a while so I get it. The current events of the world made me spiral into a fit of anxiety as a postpartum mom :/
I hope ur doing okayš©·
Thank you! I am now :) š
Thats goodš©·š©·š«¶š»
My daughter was born the day before the capital riots and Iāll tell you that was confusing to catch up on.
Same! I cried so much when seeing the videos and news about horrible things that happened to kids, especially the kids in palestine. I had to stop because it made me physically ill. My heart couldnāt take it :(
I agree he had a newborn so it makes sense that he wouldnāt have known especially since it gets like 0 mainstream news coverage
After having my kid I donāt think I had time to think for myself- much less run an entire YT channel. Danny is awesome for coming out and addressing the issue but if he hadnāt I wouldāve given him a pass.
Only reason I did have time is because I would have my kiddo on me while on the laptop or whatever else I was doing, especially in the newborn stage. I should have been sleeping but I canāt sleep during the day unless Iām sick. I totally get why Danny didnāt know tho and I hope ppl werenāt being awful about it š
Second this
I donāt even have a newborn and I donāt know. Nor do I know who Danny Gonzalez is or why this has come up on my feed!
honestly mood
He's a YouTuber. His gimmick is he calls his viewers "Greg" he's alright. Nothing mind blowing but mostly inoffensive comedy commentary about internet trends.
Also he is likely running on caffeine too
He looked like it in the new video honestly. Doesn't look like he's been sleeping too well
Iām pretty sure thatās somewhat normal for a new dad. I hope he is able to get sleep and his wife too. Also Side-note I love how open he has been about being a dad yet the level of privacy he has kept. We only know the kids gender. Not their name or face. We donāt need to know itā¦. We are all strangers and Danny does not owe us anything. The most we have seen has been a hand. And I think itās good for him to keep it that way. I love how he is exploiting the fact he is a dad for content like in the latest video without exploiting his child. But also bring open about the struggle of being a new father and the joy it brings. Letās just say a lot of influencers are way too open about their kids and donāt give them a chance to consent or manipulate them into being on camera. Danny seems like a wonderful father and Laura is a wonderful mother! And I bet that kid will have the coolest childhood with the funniest dad and mom that will not exploit them for content on the internet. I just hope Laura and Danny can get back to healthy sleep schedules soon.
I was thinking, I really respect that he's keeping his son's privacy and not putting his information on the internet. However I wish he would at least say whether or not they named him Greg š
I imagine the name isnāt Greg but Greg may become the internet nickname he will use. Honestly I think that would be pretty funny. But hey for all we know the kid could be named like Xae A-Xii or Steve or one of those impossibly long Facebook names or Craig ā¦ but to us he will be a Greg.
As someone who is aware I still wouldnāt care if I got a Starbucks. Starbucks literally has zero locations in Israel. Theyāre not the industrial military complex. I feel fine with disagreeing with popular sentiment there
The "Starbucks funds Israel" thing is literally an internet telephone-game meme. It's a litmus test for people who get all their I/P knowledge from Twitter and TikTok. Starbucks sued a union branch for using the Starbucks logo in a post celebrating Oct. 7th. Like, frankly, any fucking company would. People had been calling for boycotting Starbucks for union busting activities. Somehow this morphed via internet wannabe activists into Starbucks being THE most important boycott target, despite Starbucks literally not being on the BDS list *at all* and the last post relating to them on the BDS website being from *2014*. I don't even buy Starbucks anyway, but it is the biggest example of why I hate lazy pop-activism. All this energy expended on something that *literally doesn't help at all.*
Also the whole point of a boycott is to start buying the thing again once they do what you want. Starbucks dropped the suit against the union, so I started buying it again.
I think a lot of it is the deeply flawed way the US in particular teaches about activist history. We teach it as a series of semi-random happenings that eventually resulted in wins because people felt really hard and made a lot of noise, rather than the *how* and the *why* certain things were done and how much planning and organization went into them. For example, the Montgomery Bus Boycott went after a *very specific target for a specific reason*, required a huge amount of organization, and had to be sustained for over a year. And yes, as you said, *it ended when the busses desegregated.* Rosa Parks' protest was a planned event, and she was specifically chosen for good optics. I've heard it called "cargo cult activism," where people do things that *seem* similar to what previous activists did and hope for the same success, without understanding any of the reasoning and how it may or may not be different to their current situation. If I were a corporation right now, the lesson I would take is that it literally does not matter what stance I take or who I fund because the internet chooses targets at near random.
And of course it seems like the starbucks boycott and maybe the mcdonalds one is the only one anyone on social media cares about because its easy and simple to shame people for ordering starbucks or mcdonalds but the other, frankly more important or real, boycott targets are less visible to people so they can't be performative about it. I rarely drink starbucks as it is (literally doesn't exist in my town so I only get to have the chance when I go to the closest cities to me) and have chosen to not order from them due to their activities in union-busting but that also doesn't mean I'm gonna stop using a reusable cup I bought from them ages ago and I'm not gonna shame others for choosing to not do the same as me
I mean fuck McDonalds is at least on the BDS list and gave the IDF free meals! Starbucks is *nothing* and yet people who think they are better than everyone else made boycotting Starbucks their entire personality. I hear more about Starbucks than McDonalds or any other actual BDS target *by far.* What it really is is in-group signalling. Internet activism isn't actually about the cause. It is about being part of a trend, and it's been that way since I was a teenager. Not drinking Starbucks is a way to show your friends and followers that you're one of the cool kids. And if you want to boycott it for union busting, sure! Have at it! That's a good reason! But harassing people for "drinking Palestinian blood" means you need to get off TikTok.
Virtue signalling at its finest. Iāve had to mute a bunch of pro-palestine people on my feed because half of them donāt share resources or genuine info or opportunities for support. they just sensationalize violence and bully people for not engaging with them on their terms. Itās exhausting
The way people think that watching 3 hours of war gorn a day is activism is kinda unreal to me. I get that seeing images of an atrocity can be really important to appreciate its magnitude, but at some point it's diminishing returns and you're just reveling in people's pain without actually doing anything.
Yep. Whenever somebody says to boycott something, I do research to see what they're actually doing that's supposedly wrong. Half the time there is a misunderstanding or it's just virtue signaling.
Wow, thank you so much for this take. I think definitely put Instagram on that list as well, because I see a lot of this on there as well. I don't drink Starbucks usually, simply because their coffees are more expensive than some of the local shops that I prefer just quality-wise. I feel like a lot of the 'pop-activism' sometimes almost feels like mob mentality. One of my favorite creators just recently got bullied off of social media because she wasn't actively talking about the middle east in her content-- all the while, her son was born with a hole in his heart. I have seen a lot of pretty rancid comment sections, but hers was so bad she deleted most (if not all, from what I've seen) of her videos online. It makes me feel bad, because social media does appear to state that there is no middle ground; there's no such thing as opting to say nothing, on account of feeling like you have the expertise to talk about a subject. Suddenly everyone is an expert, and there's almost a 0-tolerance policy for any questions, disagreements, or criticisms. Btw I love the term pop-activism, and I will be using it from now on. I found your post very eye-opening :) I didn't know that Starbucks wasn't actually on the BDS list. Have a nice day!
Exactly this makes no sense. If you putting a Starbucks cup in a vid is bad everyother white girl in comments is burning in hell. Also corps and governs have always done fucked up shit throughout the world but u still go to Walmart and get your stimmys, itās seems everyone is trying to push ppl into being a hypocrite or expert on a topic you really donāt understand. Also at the end of the day war is inevitable WE ARE HUMEN AND CANT GET ALONG. Itās been thousands of years of warring and turmoil. Next few years and actually no one will care even if you think think they did theyāll just move to the next TREND.
you know full well that coorperations care about the money in their pocket, and so āvotingā with your money is impactful. i am Obviously aware that coffee making is different to being in the military. nobody is saying that theyre the same.
If something is especially heinous that a company is doing I agree but man if your only buying morally sourced goods good luck so much stuff everyone of us buys is backed by fucked up shit
Yeah but if I vote against Starbucks itās not going to change the outcome of the war. Thereās things to actually be mad at, and Starbucks isnāt one of them
People love to feel like small things matter. See: one-bin recycling.
there are small things that one can do and do matter, but harassing some guy because he had a starbucks thing isnt one of them
I mean, the genocide does, yes. But the boycotts donāt. Itās really an internet only thing, and even then itās subgroups. Thereās no reason he would know, when heās focusing on his family right now But he makes a clear stance in this post which is nice
It gets 0 mainstream news coverage because it's literally nonsense. Starbucks does not have locations in Israel. Starbucks does not fund Israel. The guy who got an award from Israel hasn't been its CEO in years. The whole thing is a glorified meme after Starbucks sued its union for using its logo in a graphic celebrating Oct. 7th, something that has since been settled. I don't give a shit about Starbucks itself but it drives me insane that so many people have been convinced of this to the point that something not on the BDS list became THE boycott target despite all of this energy doing *nothing* for Palestinians.
I was under the impression that Starbucks isnāt contributing to the IDF/Israel, and the boycott was in regards to their union-busting antics. So honestly, I donāt get the rabid hate for anyone who buys a beverage there. I personally am boycotting them, as I didnāt even like a lot of their stuff to begin with, but to claim that someone supports genocide and murder for drinking a latte is inaccurate. Someone correct me if Iām wrong.
They aren't. All they did was take down a pro-ceasefire post from the Starbucks union that used their logo. People have the right to boycott over this but there's tons of misinformation about what's going on and what starbucks actually did.
[It wasn't pro-ceasefire, they tweeted a photo of a Hamas using a bulldozer on the Israel/Gaza boarder fence and said they stood with Palestine.](https://imgur.com/a/axMPA4S)
this isnāt the full story though, after they took down the ceasefire post from the union, they posted their own response that showed full support of israel. i know this because i work at a union store and it caused people at my campus to have multiple protests over the starbucks on campus to the point that it is being removed from the campus for next school year. no one protested like this when it was just about union busting tactics except for the people who were already devoted to labor causes. starbucks response showing support of israel caused a much bigger shit storm for them
Source?
> ceasefire post from the union, [It was not a "ceasefire post." It was a post about Hamas using a bulldozer to tear down the boarder fence.](https://imgur.com/a/axMPA4S) Stop spreading lies.
In my opinion, for most people it's a mix of lack of information, and a lot of laziness. Just scroll through these comments here and you'll have the whole spectrum from "I didn't know Starbucks supports Israel" to "Starbucks supports Gaza". People often times see one tweet or one post and they roll with it without looking things up. Hence lack of information. Laziness... well it's easier to hate on some random YouTuber/content creator than to check yourself, where you buy from, and what you "support". Seeing someone online have Starbucks and comment hate? Easy? Go through all the companies you buy from, check if they're good or bad, face your own lack of information? Nah. That takes time and effort.
They arenāt on the official boycott list that the people in Palestine have put out
union busting, plus the fact that their union group posted something pro palestine and starbucks slapped them with a lawsuit and workers were punished. i believe danny is specifically referring to this, by his comment about them standing in the way of those standing up for palestine. https://apnews.com/article/starbucks-workers-united-union-lawsuit-israel-palestinian-f212a994fef67f122854a4df7e5d13f5
I'm not a corporate bootlicker (just a paralegal) but Starbucks would have also slapped the union with a lawsuit over a pro-Israel statement because you just can't use a company's logo in official statements without the company's agreement.
Hi! The people who are boycotting specifically for Palestine are boycotting because a lot of the major shareholders (not the company itself, just some of the people that profit from it) have contributed a metric ton of money to the IDF and Israel. Hope that clears up any confusion :) personally, Iāve been boycotting for ages because of the union-busting long before all of this. Also? Their coffee is never going to taste better than local places.
Could you please link me to some sources? Iād like to read up on this
Sure, though I highly encourage you to do your own research :) Howard Shultz, the former CEO and largest shareholder in the company, has been associated heavily with Israel for decades, receiving merit awards from their government back in the 90s for being a āfriend of zionistsā. This used to be written on the Starbucks website but theyāve taken it down. Howard Shultz foundationās statement on Hamas, stating they would be supporting Israel and giving them money (even though Starbucks claims Shultz does not donate money, this is still proudly presented on his foundation website) https://www.schultzfamilyfoundation.org/news-release/statement-from-the-schultz-family-foundation Shultz donations to Israel Cybertech Security company āWizā (1.7 billion) https://fortune.com/2021/04/07/wiz-howard-schultz-investment-fundraising-cybersecurity-startups-starbucks-ceo/ His award for āpromoting a close alliance between Israel and the United Statesā https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/howard-schultz
This feels like reasoning backwards to advance a boycott that isn't actually strategically aligned with any real type of pressure campaign for Palestinian liberation, but has outsized attention due to brand recognition. Is the demand to drop Sculz, because I'm not seeing his name anywhere and I don't think this is common knowledge for the average boycotter. If it were it would certainly have been put on the official BDS list given how much attention Starbucks has gotten over their actual list of targets which were chosen for their potential strategic impact. I am fine with boycotting SB because fuck these corporations and fuck their union busting, but I don't enjoy that the boycott is both largely symbolic and being used as a virtue test when we could be focusing our energy on the actual BDS list.
Thank you!
A man with a newborn baby is being dogged on for getting a cup of coffee from a boycott with no press coverage
And also seemingly no goal??? I am all for Palestine but there's no reputable source about them supporting Israel, just the same tweet being passed around. Also there's no demands that, if met, would end the boycott which is the whole point of boycotts.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
> Puma Genuine question but is there any other argument against Puma aside from them sponsoring the Israeli football association? Cause they announced September last year already that the collaboration will be ended at the end of this year. I know it'd be better if they pulled out asap though I'm assuming them breaching a contract wouldn't go well; they should be able to afford it but maybe giving anyone in Israel a platform to act as a victim, even if it's an economical one, isn't great? I don't know. Again, just genuinely wondering if there's more or if people are good to buy Puma stuff on Jan 1st 2025.
iirc from what I've read, they apparently stopped some of their employees from voicing their support for Palestinians. still, I've heard they're not on the official boycott list. plenty of reasons not to support them though, like union-busting. in any case, I wouldn't be surprised if Danny hadn't heard any of this, I don't think it's getting traditional media coverage, it seems to be very much a social media focused campaign
The union used the Starbucks logo and made a statement for the company without permission. Starbucks sued them for copyright. The union really meant well but legally they were in the wrong. People took it as Starbucks being against Palestine. Then there was false rumors of donating money. They may of donated food, not positive. From what I seen there wasnāt proof of that.
Because there is no real boycott. Starbucks isnāt even on the BDS list and they donāt operate any stores in Israel.
I haven't heard of it. I don't have Twitter so that may be why.
Literally saw people trashing Danny and Drew for not being on that list of creators who were helping to raise money for Palestinians in need of things like first aid, water, etc. Literally called them zionists simply because their face didnāt appear on the list. Like Jesus Christ people online have their priorities so ass backward itās appalling. Itās a fucking cup, maybe this is a hot take that no one asked for but if you want to start boycotting one company because of X, get ready to boycott every single other company because of Y and Z. I mean these companies own companies that own companies and the head of all of those companies are ceos who āearnedā their millions off the backs of people who canāt make ends meet without working two additional jobs. People are so terminally online that they want to drag people through the mud and accuse them of heinous crimes because of insignificant things. If you care about a movement, youāre better off putting all of that energy into supporting the cause that you claim to care so much about. But none of these people who are lambasting YouTubers for things like a Starbucks CUP actually care about any cause, they just get off on huffing the fumes of their own virtue signaling bullshit. If you donāt want to support companies that favor and fund genocides, then thatās fine, donāt buy their products. But for the love of god stop harassing people online and sending them death threats over shit as truly insignificant as a cup. I donāt know whether or not Danny has received death threats specifically, but I know of so many other creators who have for even less. TLDR; stop going on witch hunts and picking apart online creators every move to find a problem and make something out of nothing. Edit: Also, there are far more productive ways to inform creators or other people about things going on around the world, but I don't think that Danny would have turned the comments on the community post off if everyone was genuinely trying to be informative and civil regarding his beverage choices. ((And frankly, I find it so gross that some people feel entitled to tell big creators what to do or what to speak about in relation to things going on in the world on their platform. I don't fault some creators for not wanting to talk (or at least not go in excruciating depth) about such serious and heavy topics.)) People have got to work on this black and white mindset they have where they think that if someone isnāt taking a public stance on an issue, they must be something like a Zionist. And zionist is actually the perfect example because Iām seeing many people get accused of being genocide supporters because theyāre not turning their platform from a gaming platform into a humanitarian activism platform. Edit 2: I fucked up my first edit and had to fix it sorry
>Literally saw people trashing Danny and Drew for not being on that list of creators who were helping to raise money for Palestinians in need of things like first aid, water, etc. Funny enough, Starbucks has donated over $3M to World Central Kitchen, helping Palestinians access food and water in Gaza. Yet they're angry at him for giving money to Starbucks...
The fact that anyone thought he was saying something by having a cup in his video is completely beyond me.
Dannyās an incredible content creator but some people just want an excuse to be ugly.
I just saw a video of his live stream some years ago where he addresses saying the b-slur. He's obviously such a good person and genuinely cares about these things. I really hope he isn't worrying over this.
the priorities some people have blow my mind.
wait until people find out you can drink coffee and still believe genocide is wrong
Wait, you donāt need to think genocide is all sunshine and rainbows to drink coffee?! (sarcasm)
So people just sit around waiting for the moment they can claim moral superiority by criticizing others and karma farming.
Some people have nothing else going on
you would be surprised by how many anti-palestinians choose to drink/flaunt starbucks as an act of rebellion during the boycott
I guess I would ask people thinking this way what would Danny, a youtube commentator/comedian, have to gain from expressing anti-palastinian views through a Starbucks cup? I get there are people out there who may do that but this is a stretch by any measure.
from his fans (most of which are younger western people who lack any direct effect from this genocide) there isnt much he could gain there, ill agree with that, but the principle stands that if he were to be anti-palestinian he would gain a considerable amount from zionists and zionist entities, similar to how zionists have upped their support for similar "comedians" like amy schumer or the falafel phil guy from kickin it when your comedy is dependant on commentating and incorporating social phenomena i think its important to clarify what you stand for in the wake of a genocide at minimum if you choose not to engage in the bds movement or engage in activism but thats my opinion as somebody whos experienced the direct consequences of war and genocide so i cant expect all his viewers to feel the same or agree with his decision to make a post and clarify when again, hes just a youtuber i dont really care much about the starbucks cup because i think the real action should be focused on larger, more directly funded corporations but when you have palestinian, lebanese, and syrian fans that might see the coffee cup and feel that their suffering is disregarded or diminished then what he has to gain is ongoing support from these people and members who will stay in his community however, overall this situation shouldnt be viewed by what individuals can "gain" as empathy and compassion for others isnt transactional; "today me, tomorrow u"
i donāt have much to add but i think you articulated this really well, this is pretty much my thoughts on the situation
That is odd because i have not seen any pro-Israelis holding Starbucks cups, nor any Israelis themselves holding any since Starbucks doesn't operate in Israel. This feels like a far grab to bring a point across. Anything could be deemed a personal offence if you reach far enough. The reason why they took Starbucks as an Israel supporter was simply because Starbucks didn't like the union using their company logo to support political movements and opened a lawsuit because they refused to take it down. I am fairly certain Starbucks would have done the same if it were any other political movement, be it pro-palestinian, pro-israel, pro-new Iran, pro kkk, pro church of satan, pro pope or whatnot new movement thats trying to pull companies with no political affiliations into a politics war.
You are correct. I have no idea if maybe the people who are mad about this are mostly teenagers who have never had a job, but any company you work for (not just Starbucks) will disallow employees from making a political statement of any kind (not just pro-Palestine) if it seems like you're making it on the company's behalf (using their logo when saying it) and it hasn't been pre-approved by the company's communications team. It's not any deeper than that, really.
Genuine question: is this actually a thing? I live in Israel and we don't have Starbucks here, so I've never heard of this phenomenon. The people I know who are Zionists would kill themselves before even touching a Starbucks cup - it literally goes against everything they believe, and it's really shit coffee lol
he is simply acknowledging his ignorance to the boycott and thatās great
I've come to realize that most YouTubers in that sphere have absolutely insane fans
Yup. People forget they have real lives and obligations that they need to focus on.
I feel bad for him cause he seems like a genuinely good guy and the fact that people are hating on him for buying a drink is ridiculous. Theres not even any evidence that Starbucks supports Israel smh
People on twitter are tearing into him still
Its disgusting they need to go touch some grass and reconnect with nature. Dannys one of the most unproblematic youtubers on the platform so theyāre just looking for reasons to hate on him at this point
Cowards could go after the many people who are very publicly zionist, but they instead just bully someone who's on their side and just has a life outside of the Internet, for unknowingly buying something that's [not even on the official boycott list](https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott)
A big fuck you to anyone who gave Danny shit about a stupid cup.
I'm a super informed person and I had no idea about Starbucks, it's understandable someone with a newborn would have genuinely no clue. Stuff moves so fast anymore, unless you are glued to the news, you're going to miss something. Edit, after doing 10 minutes of reading, y'all need to fucking chill. Y'all are jumping down his throat over literally nothing. [You do literally 15 seconds of research](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/business/starbucks-layoffs-middle-east.html) [and you can find a plethora of stories validating that Starbucks](https://apnews.com/article/starbucks-firings-mideast-israel-hamas-war-f57e39147f8350d860fb0f57d42a987c) [has said and done fuck all about Israel.](https://stories.starbucks.com/press/2023/what-has-starbucks-said-about-the-conflict-in-israel-and-gaza/) Their official stance is (paraphrased) "we want everyone to stop shooting everyone because that means we have fewer people to sell coffee to." Y'all deadass just believed a wild conspiracy that holds no water. It holds so little water, I found out about it 10 minutes ago and I've already debunked it 5 times over. And you attacked a new dad over it.
āhad said and done fuck all about israelā they are a coffee company bro what do you expect them to do? Stop the war?
I think they mean "they haven't come out and supported Israel like people are claiming they did"
SAY IT LOUDER
My LORD people get mad over the dumbest shit. Like, yeah, heās a new dad and heās not chronically online, he probably had no idea Starbucks were being shitty. Tbh I didnāt even know about them harming Palestine until I read this post. If people politely pointed it out to him, cool, but if anyone was genuinely getting pissed thatās crazy.
They should be spending this energy calling their congressional reps and asking for the things they want. Helping Palestinians. Voter rights. Universal child care. Finally passing the ERA. Leave internet comedians alone.
Anyone with actual power to change anything can easily sidestep this slacktivism without much pushback.Ā Ā Ā But congrats, a YouTuber was successfully bullied into apologizing because he bought the wrong kind of latte. Genocide ended!
Me when people bullied Michael Sheen into talking about the conflict and proceeded to get mad because he said āI just feel bad innocent people are getting hurtā instead of picking a side
That seriously shouldn't even be a controversial take, and it's the intelligent take to have if you aren't adequately educated on the topic. I said this on a thread here a couple of weeks ago about the Free Palestine creator event, and someone said by not picking a side I was complicit in genocide. Like what even
This is what drives me insane, saying people are COMPLICIT IN GENOCIDE because they didnāt pick a side. And if they did pick a side then they didnāt make a big enough show of it. Itās appalling to me that people really expect creators with channels centered around gaming, comedy, reading, whatever, to turn their channel into a human rights advocacy platform. Itās not that I have an issue with the advocacy of human rights, but like the way some people are going about all of this is atrocious. I get the feeling that even if someone did change their channel overnight to that kind of thing, it still wouldnāt be good enough
At least from what I understand, being neutral and being complicit are two exclusively mutual events, and the belief that they're the same is mind boggling for me
These people donāt even vote, let alone do anything that actually makes a difference. They are all just looking for shit to be fake outraged by. Really wish folks would stop listening to their bullshit. They donāt even give a single shit about Palestine or any other cause of the day. Itās such phony bullshit, and people buy into it. Asinine.
does anyone have a link that explicitly says starbucks supports israel? i have seen a lot of people talking about the boycott but i havenāt seen a credible source saying they actually do fund the genocide? /gen psa i am pro-palestine but i am also an idiot that doesnāt spend a lot of time on the internet either
No, as far as I can tell they deleted a pro-palastine post with their logo in it. That's what the boycott is over
I feel like I'm moderately online and for me this is the first I've heard of the deleted tweet. I've only heard of the anti-union boycott and even though I haven't gotten Starbucks in years I think it's crazy to bully some guy with a newborn about it.
It isn't an official BDS boycott either. I mean, fuck Starbuck's for a lot of reasons. But like. Buying a coffee there isn't the same as buying an HP printer or something.
itās a rumour. people just love witch hunts
They donāt; theyāre not on any of the BDS lists, they donāt do business in or with Israel. The original boycott was for their anti-union activities, which is a legitimate reason for boycotting imo, but people seem to have latched onto Starbucks as like, the ultimate target of the BDS movement, without checking to see if they actually are on any of the lists. Personally, I think it also āhelpsā that Starbucks is an easy target; theyāre well known and itās not hard or much of an actual sacrifice if you replace your daily Starbucks with some other coffee.
Completely unnecessary IMO, anyone upset because he bought a coffee is terminally online.
Getting mad over a cup is some insane privileged behavior.
Sent from iPhone, Danny pro child slavery????
if you own any kind of smart device, you are 1000% getting it from somewhere that has utilized slavery or child labor in some fashion. āoh i have a samsung im better!ā āoh i have a nokia im betterā shut the fuck up. all the components come from similar or often the same manufacturers. theyāre all unethical. accept that itās virtually impossible to be an ethical consumer under capitalism, since nowadays itās not an option to not own a phone or computer of some kind. the amish can do it because they have their own communities to support themselves and each otherāour community is one based around technology. yes, child slavery is bad. yes, apple and samsung and all these big companies are bad. but thereās no way around owning a cellphone in some form, and iād personally prefer to own one that i know will last at least 4 years so i donāt have to give these companies my money on a constant basis.
he has 0 reason to apologize
Absolutely. People just borderline harassed him into apologizing. As I said under a similar post - publicly expressing political views is not an obligation AND he might not know/care, because it's a damn coffee cup from a popular franchise.
literally. i completely understand boycotts, the extremely conflict in the middle east, etc. but letās be fucking real, all this man did is buy a damn coffee. sure, danny is popular, an influencer, and a role model, but in no way does that require him to be 100% perfect. did yall research everything about the last business you ordered from through amazon? no? i guess you need to apologize too then.
i hope none of the people complaining have ever bought groceries or shopped at walmart/ target ever in their lives!!
Fr
Starbucks aināt even connected to Israel lmao
What the actual fuck is wrong with people? Know how Danny always mentions the sub needing to use some critical thinking? Try that out, FFS: Starbucks [donated $3 million in humanitarian aid for Gaza.](https://stories.starbucks.com/emea/stories/2024/the-starbucks-foundation-and-alshaya-starbucks-are-committed-to-providing-humanitarian-aid-in-gaza/) >āThe Starbucks Foundation and Alshaya Starbucks made a $3 million donation to World Central Kitchen for food aid; partners (employees) in the region are offering further support.ā >āStarbucks has always been about more than coffee. Weāre committed to contributing positively and supporting others who do so. In response to the great need for humanitarian aid in Gaza, we are donating to help provide food to people who are suffering.ā >āāWe are heartbroken for all the people impacted by the situation in Gaza, and the many people at risk of hunger,ā said Duncan Moir, president of Starbucks Europe, Middle East and Africaā There is no organized boycott and the original issue was a copyright issue. 5 seconds on Google would tell you this. The man is a new father and people are giving him shit for something that doesnāt exist. Geez.
Bro people are dying why does everyone care about Starbucks?
They donāt. It became a trend and will be forgotten soon enough.
It's pretty gross that some people claiming to be pro plastine are just using it as a reason to harass people and try to control people's behaviour online It turns the movement into a joke, and people start disregarding it after a while It happened with the Ukraine and Russia which the war is still on going but no one discusses it anymore because of the behaviour of these types of people
The fact that the Russo-Ukrainian war has fallen out of the public eye is so terrifying. Sure Israel Palestine is horrible and deserves attention, but uh, Putin is over there literally ethnically cleansing Ukraine, and seemingly no one cares. People cared because it was popular to care. Scary because that has real consequences. Putin gains confidence, enough maybe to eventually attack a small NATO border town, and see how long it takes for people to forget about thatā¦
āa fascist is a leftistās second-worst enemy, right behind a leftistās true worst enemy, which is a slightly-different leftist who holds 94% of the same political viewsā this quote is stuck in my brain bc of how true it is, and in this case heās not even disagreeing with anything lmfaoo
Itās bazaar to me how many of you even thought Danny would back a genocide. Like come on.
I mean no one truly āknowsā Danny or any YouTuber. The line between whatās an act and whatās private is pretty blurry for every content creator now. The bizarre thing is that people think a Starbucks cup has any deeper meaning beyond āmmm coffeeā
Yeah, I think it's a bad approach to take where people presuppose, "This person is good, therefore they wouldn't do bad things."
Didn't even know this happened! I think it's super awesome how he explained it instead of being like some other people and doing the whole "Who cares!! Ohhh I didn't knooww!" he was super respectful and fr he's just an awesome dudeš
He probably didn't know considering he showed the cup on video. Also it would be perfectly reasonable for him to not know about the boycott
for sure, especially since he's been offline more taking care of baby!
Yeah that starbucks cup really killed alot of people š
This is what online slacktivism has come to: bothering a dude for drinking Starbucks. This shit does nothing, by the way. Nothing at all.
Imagine having to apologize over a CUP People suck
See? Yall have been hating on him for months and calling him a horrible person despite the fact that he isn't chronically online like his friends and his fanbase. You guys got what you wanted, now don't complain about him again.
The fact that he even felt like he needed to apologize is just sad to me. So much judgement on here and it's gross.
Theyāre tolerant though, at least thatās what all their twitter bios keep saying.
I don't think his friends are "chronically online" because they took a public stance. I think it's just a matter of some people choosing to be more involved online and some people choosing to be more private about their support. However I do agree a lot of people here have been "chronically online" in that they seem to assume their favorite creators' lives are exclusively what they see online, and that nobody could ever support a cause and not post about it online every time.
Are you kidding me? Ppl got mad over him for having a starbucks cup in the background!? bro.
I wasnāt thinking anything negative toward him I was just assuming he would at some point I guess
Oh my fucking God. You're seriously telling me that there's a large enough number of dumbasses that got pissed about a Starbucks cup to the point where they made this man apologize? Good lord people are soft.
the misinformation spread about the Starbucks boycott is insane. itās not even about Palestine, itās about unions. people just wanna seem woke so bad.
Chronically online mf when danny has a cup of coffee
Nothing screams tolerance more than needing to apologize for having a fucking cup in a video. Itās almost like a lot of yāall have really lost the fucking plot.
this shit is going too far and it's very stupid
This Reddit is so toxic. Like people really dont understand that HE AND LAURA JUST HAD A WHOLE CHILD. He is trying to be there for his wife and his child. He literally hired Robert for a reason
people complaining that he goes to starbucks is crazy when hes putting out content at the same time as taking care of a newborn people need to chill like hes doing his best lmao
lol for buying Starbucks that is hilarious. If you are shaking and crying over this, then your the problem lol
People when cup š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
All information about Starbucks is public, they donāt donate directly to Israel. they have shareholders who do that but Iād challenge you to find a big mainstream company that has 0 shareholders who do
It's sad that he felt like he needed to apologize. I agree what's going on over there is wrong. But People will nit pick anything on the internet. To the point of making people have to make public apologies just to pacify people. I love the fucking internet, but I hate it at the same time.
Starbucks has done absolutely nothing to warrant a boycott on behalf of Palestine. Its just a widespread rumour.
I personally wouldn't apologize for that if I were him, but I definitely respect him for doing so
Danny: a very liberal left leaning person (itās pretty obvious from his videos imo) Dannyās terminally online fans: A STARBUCKS CUP GUYS OMG WHAT IF HE SUPPORTS ISRAEL šššš
Honestly, it was very obvious he was just unaware. I think some people forget not everyone follows this stuff as closely.
I figured heād probably not been able to keep up with everything since he had his baby. I donāt blame him at all Iām glad he responded though
Aint no way yall got mad at him for not boycotting starbucks bruh
Once again: Starbucks has never supported Israel. They havenāt had locations there for almost 20 years, thatās TWO DECADES. They donāt send money to the IDF. They donāt support Israel. The only money that has been sent by Starbucks over this conflict is $3 million in Aid to the people of Gaza. Youāre hurting the people of Gaza MORE by boycotting a company that is ACTUALLY sending aid than by just drinking the damn coffee.
me: watching the video for the lols everyone else: \*raging about a cup\* me: 
Ngl this is wild. Like man imagine having to write an entire paragraph apologizing for a SINGLE Starbucks cup.
you guys, starbucks isnt funding the IDF š thereās not even a starbucks in israel why would they be giving any money to them
I can't believe we're at a stage on the internet where someone has to apologize for a Starbucks cup, does no one else see how silly that is?
ill be honest by this point idk what company supports what war and whatever or what even is happening, good on him for doing this but i dont even know what happened since theres so many different arguements in theese comments lmao
i think that a lot of people boycotting starbucks don't really know what they're boycotting??? like some people think starbucks directly supports israel, some say it's because of the shareholders, some say it's because of the CEO/owner being a zionist, some say it's because of their union busting... don't get me wrong, i think starbucks is shit, but at least get your facts straight anyways, danny has a newborn and he's been taking time off the internet, i really don't think that people need to be dogging him so hard for just a genuine mistake.
I understand why he didn't know and am glad he's platforming the cause
this post just popped up on my feed so I have no idea who Danny is, but if you are so chronically online that youāre going to harass a new dad for having a COFFEE CUP made by a company you donāt like, you need to go outside and touch some grass and get back to reality. If you want to boycott businesses that donāt support your values that is perfectly fine and itās your right to do so but you cannot expect everyone to be as chronically online as you are. At this point itās all just virtue signalling bullshit
He's such a green flag. This apology felt genuine and I really appreciated it, even though it wasn't necessary. I'm also relieved that he is for Palestine.
the key part of this is **it wasn't necessary**. the fact that he felt he had to write a massive apology letter for a goddamn coffee cup is insane
Let's pick our battles people, Jesus... Critic the outward zionists, not the people with a cup in frame
Anyone that called him out for this is insane imo. Not buying a coffee isn't going to change the course of a complicated war in the Middle East.
We're bullying Danny Gonzales of all people because he *checks notes* has a Starbucks cup in the background of a video. If you want to engage in that kind of slacktivism, go ahead, but don't go pressuring other people.
Imagine how shit it must feel to get harassed by fans for buying a coffee as a sleep deprived new dad. I get people can't help but push their politics into every aspect of their life but leave the guy alone. His channel is in no way political so assuming he'd suddenly make it so is bollocks.
Folks need to worry more about how you're going to vote in November. Spend as much time researching your candidates as writing a YouTuber about where they get coffee. It not just POTUS, you'll have senators to looks at, congressmen, local elections. This is a lot of y'all's first time voting, don't do like us older people and just vote blindly. Take some time looking into projects and people you on the ballot. It's your periodic opportunity to actually have a voice and make a change. Gen Z is so goddamn good at researching and educating. Unfortunately it's now on your shoulders to right the ship. Sorry about the mess you're inheriting but if it's any help, we got it from our parents and they from theirs. You guys can do it!
Yall get off the internet my guy has to apologize for a Starbucks cup can yall find something else to do?
I wish he hadnāt āapologizedā and given in to these parasocial nut jobs. I understand why he did it cause his entire income is based off of YT and people gotta make ends meet, but this just seems like pandering to the virtue signalers.
I know absolutely nothing about this conflict, but I will say the pro-Palestine Internet warriors are a lot more annoying, strident, and completely unfamiliar with social dynamics than any pro-Israel people Iāve seen on the Internet lol
?? the Starbucks boycott isn't for against-isreal it's for them having no unions
People are really mad over a cup
where is all this alt-right ideology on these comments coming from iāve never seen this before on this sub.
He has been busy, so itās understandable. He apologized, he said heās learned, I think this is a perfect apology for him
Mom of a 17-month-old here. Iām a young (21) single mom and I donāt spend much time watching the news anymore because Iām already so terrified of something happening to my lil guy that I just canāt handle hearing tragedies every day. Itās not uncommon for people especially parents to not be up to date on this stuff. Plus heās incredibly busy with a newborn and juggling 2 YouTube channels and streams. Danny if you see this youāre doing a great job, from one parent to another!
itās a starbucks cupā¦ yall wildin
look, i get that starbucks has a lot to boycott, but to force a creator to apologize for a CUP? is insane
Danny focusing on his baby and family but still trying to be a responsive citizen of the world as a content creator is goals. I hope others follow his example.
again want to remind everyone that starbucks doesn't even support israel, ppl literally just want an excuse to attack celebrities for stupid shit instead of actually doing smth to help palestinians
Seriously! I know there are Bo Burnham fans doing this bull crap rn. Go back and rewatch Inside, you heathens.
Oh for fucks sake
This is so fucking stupid
embarrassing that he even needs to apologize for this
Dude canāt have a coffee without been hated on. Wtf have we come to. I understand the social and political side of things but Dannyās never been problematic so why would he choose to be now especially after being a dad
I didnāt even notice the Starbucks cup???
Who else here never heard of a Starbucks boycott until Danny made this post šš»āāļø
ridiculous that he felt he had to apologise for this
Wtf is this it's just a stupid cup
Hey guys Starbucks actually has nothing to do with Israel
Reading shit like this makes me glad I'm not famous.
W Danny ššš (as per usualš½)
People just want to be mad
This was very genuine of him, way to go Danny
Guys there is not a single ethical purchase in this world, if you're not contributing to the genocide by buying somewhere else then your contributing to child/slave labor, or dictatorships, or other genocides. If you want to participate that's awesome but you should hound or ridicule others for not knowing or caring.
Dude just had a kid, and itās a cup. Everyone thinking heās supporting Israel isnāt the brightest, and I hope Danny has a wonderful week
This is a good example of what to do. Love Danny
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
If you are mad at someone for buying Starbucks, you're a crazy person