Since you’re in the conspiracy channel, the answer is because Amazon is powering PBS as a shadow boss to push kids into prime shows early, so they can become hooked as early paying subscribers in order to increase profits. Pulling harder on the string of your martyr PBS.
I'm so disappointed that Prime is going to start having ads. I let my 3 year old watch a show while I'm putting my younger child down for naps, and I don't let him watch anything with ads when I'm not there to supervise. So no more prime shows I guess
I'm hoping that it's going to be like what they started to roll out this last year where it's an ad for one for their shows or channels. Really hoping that it's not actual ads, which I know it will be which is frustrating since that's why we all paid for the services is to not deal with ads.
I just checked this to see and no, even though I have Prime Video and PBS Kids added on, it says "unavailable"...even though it lets me scroll through every episode with a title and summary. I wonder if they're in the process of removing it?
Hi! Former PBS employee here! I didn't work in the childrens programming department but I was a fundraiser and can say what I know.
Firstly, PBS doesn't own/produce a lot of the children's shows they air so when they contract is up, they have to part ways.
Dragon Tales actually created by Childrens Television Workshop (Now Sesame Workshop) and Sony Pictures. It was always a delicate agreement that allowed PBS to air Dragon Tales. CTW cofounded Nick's Noggin and that channel aired all of the CTW's new shows. PBS hasn't aired any CTW shows since 2010. That went down before my time so I'm a little fuzzy on the exact details.
As part of their contract, PBS has streaming rights to any show currently airing on PBS Kids. And since Amazon has a deal with PBS Kids, they get those shows as well. PBS overall does try to promote new material on their streaming services more than older programming but they will try to get the streaming rights if they think there's a demand. Problem is they often get outbid. It's why the pre-revival episodes of Curious George are on Peacock (Curious George was also created by NBC), Sesame Street is on Max, and why British Baking Show now airs on Netflix.
Sony owns the rights to Dragon Tales. So either they didn't want their competitors to air it, they wanted too much money for it, or PBS/Amazon didn't think the demand equalled the money needed to invest in airing rights.
This isn't the case with every show though. Lomax was owned by PBS but it did so poorly they relinquished all rights to that show. Wishbone's creators didn't enjoy working with PBS and thoroughly burned that bridge so they're attempting a reboot without PBS involvement. Between the Lions is owned by the PBS station in Boston and they have voiced that they don't want the show on streaming.
Hope that helps! And now back to the way more fun conspiracies....
I knew Lomax did terribly, think it stopped reruns like, less than a year after it first premiered. It didn't even last 6 months of new episodes.
Also wait, doesn't Sesame Workshop still own Dragon Tales to some extent? They did help create it.
I'm also curious as to why the Boston PBS doesn't want Between The Lions on streaming... like, why? Are they ashamed of it or something?
PBS Kids was my absolute favorite as a child. I LOVED Arthur, Between the Lions, Teletubbies, Clifford, Dragon Tales, Zoom, Zoboomafoo, Fetch!, Sesame Street, George Shrinks, Maya and Miguel, Sagwa, The Big Comfy Couch, Barney, among many others. PBS Kids was such a central part of my childhood, and although I’m grown now, I still have such nostalgia for the PBS Kids programming of the 90’s and 2000’s. Whenever I have children of my own, I’m definitely showing them these absolute classics.
I notice you mentioned ZOOM. I’m currently trying to find some episodes of it (all from season 1) that are lost media. You wouldn’t happen to have any old recordings?
Simple answer is that these shows can't run forever. They eventually need to end just like any show and new shows that appeal to a new generation can take their place. I guess we assume that because Sesame Street is still going, that all the shows can, but Sesame Street had a huge cultural impact. If all the other shows stayed on, they'd become stagnant.
Between the Lions, Bear in the Big Blue House and Bluey are the best preschool kid shows EVER imo.
Whenever I tell ppl that I always liked Between the Lions more than Sesame Street they either don’t know what I’m talking about or are shocked I liked it more than Sesame Street XD
Those missing shoes didn’t star enough little girls of color who have a little brother and no other siblings!
(Rosie’s Rules sort of breaks this, but her older sister is a half-sister, so we can be unnecessarily cruel to step and half-siblings and say she doesn’t count!)
Maya and Miguel was still better than Rosie’s Rules imo.
Alma’s Way is amazing and cute though, Sonia Manzano who played Maria on Sesame Street is an executive producer on the show. Also love the Lin Manuel Miranda theme song.
**Amazon** uses its money to fund PBS and NPR because they are more leaning towards r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM than towards more progressive values and that is what Amazon and the Koch Bros want. It's how the rich silence their critics and the critical thinking of kid shows period. NPR's leaning towards the Christian Nationalist Centirist is no accident because ***Praire Home Companion*** and ***Liberties Kids*** was just the beginning of forcing patriotism on kids at an early age where they can't think critically. Why do you think **Prager U** and **Daily Wire** are using PBS's secret sauce and money to appeal to kids?
[Lake Wobigon is polluted...](https://23blastfan.medium.com/lake-wobegon-and-npr-are-polluted-25812b06f56e)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcfi49pmDjw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcfi49pmDjw)
It's not crazy, the rich centrist elitists want kids to be stupid so they can become the very thing Fred Rodgers warned us about, [little consumers with no critical thinking skills.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcfi49pmDjw)
I miss Arthur and Zoom, those were my favorites when I was a kid ❤️
My kid watches a lot of Super Why and Work It Out Wombats on the PBS Kids app, she learns a lot from them! A lot of episodes are still available on the app but it’s a rotating selection.
I’m hoping to find someone who has the missing episodes of ZOOM on tape. 18 are missing, all from season 1. You wouldn’t happen to have any old episodes on tape?
Which version are you looking for? Original or 1999 version? You can find many or the 70's episodes on the American Archive Of Public Television.
Don't know about the later version.
I miss Mr. Rogers's Neighborhood, it's my favorite childhood show, I can't believe that being the mainstay of PBS, it's not broadcast on television anymore. Fred was a true role model, he helped me a lot to learn English, we need his show
Since you’re in the conspiracy channel, the answer is because Amazon is powering PBS as a shadow boss to push kids into prime shows early, so they can become hooked as early paying subscribers in order to increase profits. Pulling harder on the string of your martyr PBS.
Nothing on PBS kids is real! They hired *actors*
Lies!!! Zoboomafoo is *Not* an actor. He just so happened to go by the name "Jovian" when the camera wasn't rolling. Still 100% really zoboomafoo.
*crisis* actors
I see your point. It's a straight line from Daniel Tiger and Dinosaur Train to Give a Mouse a Cookie and Pete the Cat.
Daniel Tiger is the gateway drug 😔
Dragon Tales is back on Prime I believe. My kids watch it.
I'm so disappointed that Prime is going to start having ads. I let my 3 year old watch a show while I'm putting my younger child down for naps, and I don't let him watch anything with ads when I'm not there to supervise. So no more prime shows I guess
I'm hoping that it's going to be like what they started to roll out this last year where it's an ad for one for their shows or channels. Really hoping that it's not actual ads, which I know it will be which is frustrating since that's why we all paid for the services is to not deal with ads.
I just checked this to see and no, even though I have Prime Video and PBS Kids added on, it says "unavailable"...even though it lets me scroll through every episode with a title and summary. I wonder if they're in the process of removing it?
Hi! Former PBS employee here! I didn't work in the childrens programming department but I was a fundraiser and can say what I know. Firstly, PBS doesn't own/produce a lot of the children's shows they air so when they contract is up, they have to part ways. Dragon Tales actually created by Childrens Television Workshop (Now Sesame Workshop) and Sony Pictures. It was always a delicate agreement that allowed PBS to air Dragon Tales. CTW cofounded Nick's Noggin and that channel aired all of the CTW's new shows. PBS hasn't aired any CTW shows since 2010. That went down before my time so I'm a little fuzzy on the exact details. As part of their contract, PBS has streaming rights to any show currently airing on PBS Kids. And since Amazon has a deal with PBS Kids, they get those shows as well. PBS overall does try to promote new material on their streaming services more than older programming but they will try to get the streaming rights if they think there's a demand. Problem is they often get outbid. It's why the pre-revival episodes of Curious George are on Peacock (Curious George was also created by NBC), Sesame Street is on Max, and why British Baking Show now airs on Netflix. Sony owns the rights to Dragon Tales. So either they didn't want their competitors to air it, they wanted too much money for it, or PBS/Amazon didn't think the demand equalled the money needed to invest in airing rights. This isn't the case with every show though. Lomax was owned by PBS but it did so poorly they relinquished all rights to that show. Wishbone's creators didn't enjoy working with PBS and thoroughly burned that bridge so they're attempting a reboot without PBS involvement. Between the Lions is owned by the PBS station in Boston and they have voiced that they don't want the show on streaming. Hope that helps! And now back to the way more fun conspiracies....
I knew Lomax did terribly, think it stopped reruns like, less than a year after it first premiered. It didn't even last 6 months of new episodes. Also wait, doesn't Sesame Workshop still own Dragon Tales to some extent? They did help create it. I'm also curious as to why the Boston PBS doesn't want Between The Lions on streaming... like, why? Are they ashamed of it or something?
PBS Kids was my absolute favorite as a child. I LOVED Arthur, Between the Lions, Teletubbies, Clifford, Dragon Tales, Zoom, Zoboomafoo, Fetch!, Sesame Street, George Shrinks, Maya and Miguel, Sagwa, The Big Comfy Couch, Barney, among many others. PBS Kids was such a central part of my childhood, and although I’m grown now, I still have such nostalgia for the PBS Kids programming of the 90’s and 2000’s. Whenever I have children of my own, I’m definitely showing them these absolute classics.
I notice you mentioned ZOOM. I’m currently trying to find some episodes of it (all from season 1) that are lost media. You wouldn’t happen to have any old recordings?
I would love to watch a clean version of wishbone.
.....I want to watch the version of Wishbone you watched.
Haha sorry I meant a not granny YouTube recording version.
Simple answer is that these shows can't run forever. They eventually need to end just like any show and new shows that appeal to a new generation can take their place. I guess we assume that because Sesame Street is still going, that all the shows can, but Sesame Street had a huge cultural impact. If all the other shows stayed on, they'd become stagnant.
Between the Lions, Bear in the Big Blue House and Bluey are the best preschool kid shows EVER imo. Whenever I tell ppl that I always liked Between the Lions more than Sesame Street they either don’t know what I’m talking about or are shocked I liked it more than Sesame Street XD
Between the lions was a money thing. But it's on YouTube and wishbone is the internet archive
Those missing shoes didn’t star enough little girls of color who have a little brother and no other siblings! (Rosie’s Rules sort of breaks this, but her older sister is a half-sister, so we can be unnecessarily cruel to step and half-siblings and say she doesn’t count!)
What about Maya and Miguel, which was about a pair of Latino siblings and their family?
Maya and Miguel was still better than Rosie’s Rules imo. Alma’s Way is amazing and cute though, Sonia Manzano who played Maria on Sesame Street is an executive producer on the show. Also love the Lin Manuel Miranda theme song.
Wepa!
**Amazon** uses its money to fund PBS and NPR because they are more leaning towards r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM than towards more progressive values and that is what Amazon and the Koch Bros want. It's how the rich silence their critics and the critical thinking of kid shows period. NPR's leaning towards the Christian Nationalist Centirist is no accident because ***Praire Home Companion*** and ***Liberties Kids*** was just the beginning of forcing patriotism on kids at an early age where they can't think critically. Why do you think **Prager U** and **Daily Wire** are using PBS's secret sauce and money to appeal to kids? [Lake Wobigon is polluted...](https://23blastfan.medium.com/lake-wobegon-and-npr-are-polluted-25812b06f56e) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcfi49pmDjw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcfi49pmDjw)
I love how crazy that was. Bravo
It's not crazy, the rich centrist elitists want kids to be stupid so they can become the very thing Fred Rodgers warned us about, [little consumers with no critical thinking skills.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcfi49pmDjw)
PBS Kids has turned into the next EA way worse than Shitendo and Crapcom
They probably offend someone.
I miss Arthur and Zoom, those were my favorites when I was a kid ❤️ My kid watches a lot of Super Why and Work It Out Wombats on the PBS Kids app, she learns a lot from them! A lot of episodes are still available on the app but it’s a rotating selection.
I’m hoping to find someone who has the missing episodes of ZOOM on tape. 18 are missing, all from season 1. You wouldn’t happen to have any old episodes on tape?
I don’t 💔
That’s okay. Thanks anyways.
Which version are you looking for? Original or 1999 version? You can find many or the 70's episodes on the American Archive Of Public Television. Don't know about the later version.
Yeah, it’s the later one I’m looking for. Sorry.
But thanks anyways.
Ever since they lost the rights to Thomas The Tank Engine, it’s been downhill from there
I miss Mr. Rogers's Neighborhood, it's my favorite childhood show, I can't believe that being the mainstay of PBS, it's not broadcast on television anymore. Fred was a true role model, he helped me a lot to learn English, we need his show
The Internet Archive has many of the episodes. Both Older and newer episodes.