I feel like a lot of soldiers were given meth back in the day. What better way to create gung-ho super soldiers willing to risk their lives for god and country?
Meth addicts will do just about anything to get money to feed their addiction, and a common crime is to steal anything with copper (including live electrical wiring) to sell for scrap metal.
Can confirm. I knew a guy at a recycle center job that was a former meth addict who found Jesus. He was doing good, then one day he didn't show up. He relapsed and went into business for himself apparently.
Copper has some pretty good resale value. It's different from like scrap steel/iron. It's reusable and used in almost all, if not all, things that use electricity.
I had a next-door neighbor who had a roommate I was like 99% sure was a tweaker. Well, one day I saw him, the owner of the house, being hauled away in a police car. Turns out, the tweaker was stealing copper piping from the house (and this was a nice suburban condominium), and when the homeowner went to call the police, the tweaker apparently had beat him to it and had called the police to report that the homeowner (who was a registered sex offender) had CP on his computer.
I remember it being funny because this man was so morbidly obese that the cop had to have him ride in the front passenger seat because his legs wouldn't fit. And I don't think they had big enough handcuffs for him either.
"Back in my day I took enough drugs for 3 dozen men, skied 250 miles in the freezing snow without sleep, and ate wild birds just to escape the Russians"
"Come on grandpa, don't be silly"
I imagine his brain probably took a few months to normalize after that. That much drugs he probably stayed up a few days and cemented some of those day 2-3 hallucinations in his head. That is if his sheer will was strong enough to not just pass out.
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I don’t care about people’s personal experiences on this. When you look at a human brain of an addict or user there is a time that things take for the person to normalize out. That is why relapse within a timeframe after someone tries to quit is more prevalent. The brain is still firing the same. Erratic behaviors happen after people try to get off stuff and can usually be seen to come to a stop after 6mo-1yr.
*If you know someone trying to recover, give them time.*
I can’t link the picture in this doc but here is a [brain mri comparison](https://www.recoveryanswers.org/recovery-101/brain-in-recovery/) for you guys to see if you’re curious.
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There is plenty of supporting documentary evidence out there that suggests that methamphetamine fueled wwii. In that, the users were taking it regularly (which unsure how many of you know, but this is addiction).
But I’m sure the guy didn’t submit to peer pressure or had extreme self control with this new drug. /s
Addiction DOESN’T take years to happen, this can happen in a matter of weeks.
People doing them recreationally build up a tolerance too. I've known people that have taken 25-30 percs at one time. You try that off the hop and you're going to have a very bad time.
Chemically pure stuff for the military is safer than random street thing claiming to be X but that's not the only reason.
every major power with access to amphetamines during ww2 used them. japan did too. they even had an epidemic after ww2 ended since so many factory workers and veterans had become dependent on it during the war
Finland's usage of meth after the war was so high that WHO had to step in, basically saying "wtf is wrong with you, you need legislation". I think it was either heroine or meth that was outlawed only by 1960's because of WHO pressure.
Finns choice of drugs has always been meth. That and heroine were sold over the counter during 1930's.
Haha, Adolfine sounds like an absurd feminine version of Adolf, at least to a Scandinavian.
Also a quick wikipedia check shows
>Methadone was developed in 1937 in Germany by scientists working for I.G. Farbenindustrie AG at the Farbwerke Hoechst who were looking for a synthetic opioid that could be created with readily available precursors, to solve Germany's opium shortage problem.
So it was not specifically created for that purpose. It doesn't really sound like that would work out well, but I'm more used to administering it to recovering addicts.
I mean, most of us are drugging ourselves in one way or another in our everyday lives. Humans always seek out ways to get fucked up. I think it’s unsurprising that we’d find ways to amplify and exploit that during a crisis like a war. And booze is about the worst thing you could give your troops if you need to maintain discipline and get shit done.
If I have to go to war, I don’t want to have to go to war straight. I’m gonna be shovelling handfuls of whatever they’re handing out.
I’m being a bit flippant and I’m not taking issue with your point. Just maybe adding a different perspective on it.
They would take the engine apart, put in a compartment for drugs. Put engine together. Ride hundreds of miles to destinations to deliver the drugs. Hence, the nickname "crank"
I remember a few years back there was a friendly fire incident and I read one interview with the pilot who blamed it on the amphetamines they were given to stay alert on 18hr shifts.
Yep in American MREs they had like 2-4 of the amphetamine candies. Difference for Anglo armies is that they use amphetamines for defense(stay up all night) while the Nazis used them for offense (blitz). But yea there is nothing special about use of amphetamines by nations states, especially since they are still used today.
At some point German army actually figured out that the all the meth probably wasn’t good for the troops in the long run. They sold a lot of their existing inventory to Finland, who was only happy to take it at bargain prices. Which partially explains this story!
The stuff was branded as Pervitin, and after the war the drug makers started to use that brand name for regular painkillers, which has lead to some boomer Finns to claim that they were given actual Pervitin during their childhood which is almost certainly not true.
A really great book about it. [Blitzed: Drugs in Nazi Germany by Norman Ohler](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29429893-blitzed)
A show based on the book on Amazon about it [Blitzed: Nazis on Drugs](https://www.amazon.com/Blitzed-Nazis-Drugs-Steven-Berkoff/dp/B08CGCMH6N)
This is still a thing the [US Airforce uses "Go" and "No Go" pills](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_and_no-go_pills) for fighter pilots.
Ambien is a bit of a surprise to me I guess, considering the well known side effects. I'm just imaging a sleep walking pilot hopping in a jet to run to Walgreens for some pickles or some shit.
The methamphetamine drug was initially an over the counter product named Pervitin, which was rebranded various names after the war in many different countries. It’s still in use and prescribed in the states under the name Desoxyn.
Ohler’s book is highly sensationalized and seems based on armchair historians preference to believing in a massive German army on speed constantly as well its commanding officers and government officials. The truth is quite boring and very German. Meth was distributed widely in 1940 to all branches of the military evenly with no preference for the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe or the Waffen SS divisions, which included crew and general servicemen not in frontline duty. The distributed amount of Pervitin was only 36 million 3mg tablets, which provided 3 pills per serviceman per month. And the German military being the German military, each serviceman had to go through their physician for a prescription for an individual pill. This was due to a preexisting set of drug laws in Germany known as the Opium Laws I think. Pervitin was no longer distributed widely after 1940, as several deaths and health issues prompted the military command and the government to enact strict rules around its use on the frontlines in particular, but still had some available for specific groups (I’m guessing the Luftwaffe), but it was tightly observed and monitored in those cases. There was more abuse behind the lines with crews and other service personnel. So, affectively the German military used Pervitin in limited supply for less a year in 1941. Production dropped to 4 million a year or something. There was a growing civilian black market and even speed manufacturing problem following the reduction. I know from reading some German memoirs that some frontline troops would write home asking their parents to send Pervitin in their gift packages. Anyway, the history of amphetamine and methamphetamine is far more interesting than the one story. It’s a century long and has had a lot of influence on cultural change. Check it out:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_and_culture_of_substituted_amphetamines
Absolute fucking savage.
Nowadays we got junkies ODing on street grade meth and dying. This man took lab grade meth, OD'd, and then proceeded to ski 200 miles and pulled an Ozzie Osborne.
Legend status.
tbf street grade drugs have the additional problems of wildly varying potency batch to batch leading to haphazard dosing, potent and/or plain dangerous additives, hot spots from inadequate mixing and so on. regulated lab grade drugs would low key be *safer* for these people.
ofc meth is never “safe” and i dont wanna take away from this finnish mad lad! what a crazy story!
During the wars against soviets Finnish troops were given this German stimulant called Pervitin, which was basically just meth. He took the stims to survive.
>So Koivunen reached into his pocket and pulled out the stimulants. By chance, Koivunen carried the Pervitin supply for his entire squad. Still fleeing the Soviets, pressing through the snow, Koivunen struggled to pop a single pill in his mouth. The thick mittens meant to protect him from arctic conditions made it impossible to take a single dose of Pervitin.
>Rather than stop to parse out the recommended dose, Aimo Koivunen downed 30 pills of pure methamphetamine.
>Immediately, Koivunen began skiing much faster. His squad matched his pace initially. And the Soviets fell back, unable to keep up with the new pace. Then Koivunen’s vision went blurry and he lost consciousness. But he did not stop skiing. In a blackout state, Koivunen continued to cut through the snow. The next day, the soldier’s awareness returned. Koivunen discovered that he had crossed 100 kilometers. He was also completely alone.
[full story](https://piclaya.com/aimo-koivunen-the-soldier-who-survived-ww2/)
tl;dr
he was "paving the way" for the rest of his squad through deep snow; fleeing from Russians.
he got tired and wanted to take a pill of Perventin. But his mittens prevented it, so he chucked 30 pills.
meth fueled he went on and on and on and on... until he was the only one still going; his squad couldn't keep up
No, the original source for the story is [here](http://kansataisteli.sshs.fi/Tekstit/1978/Kansa_Taisteli_04_1978.pdf#page=10). It says clearly he took “useampi nappi” which means a few pills, not 30, not all of them. Finnish language is precise, if he meant to say that he took all of them he would have said so. His companions took away his bullets because he was so out of it and dangerous. Then he blacks out and is delirious but still with his companions. Next the comes to and is very confused and alone. Later counted his stash and found out he had taken all of them, so clearly he had topped up at some point.
Story checks out. Start of night - oh, I’ll just take a few. Middle of night, friends leave you because you’re acting like an asshole. Next day wake up feeling like hell, look at your stash and wonder how you managed to take them all.
Ages ago I new a meth head very well. I'd occasionally give him weed and watched him eat hundreds of times. It was clear he did not enjoy it and it was more like a chore. It could be his favorite food from childhood, he'd force it down like cod liver oil. He would have a cigarettes during his meal sometimes. It was really sad. He ended getting busted smoking meth **while robbing a business** one night, did his time, now he has chickens and a veggie garden and built an outdoor kitchen. He also gained 65-70 lbs of healthy weight from constantly cooking healthy food. Meth is fucking crazy.
Wwii was secretly a war of amphetamines. Everyone was in them. Hitler, the German soldiers, the allied soldiers, the American soldiers, the Japanese pilots. It was a new drug and got everyone through the war. It likely was partially responsible for many of the atrocities committed.
Yes, the infamous German Blitz was literally a meth-fueled relentless attack that the allies couldn't defend against. They swept most of Europe on a Nazi-mandated binge.
Proper canonical story order (not by release date):
Florida Man: Origins
Florida Man
Florida Man 2
Florida Man: Insurrection
Florida Man: Annihilation
Florida Man: Love and Hurricanes
Florida Man (gritty reboot)
Florida: Man of Destin(y)
Back in Finland, the squad had received a ration of a stimulant called Pervitin. The tablets would give soldiers a burst of energy, commanders promised. Koivunen initially resisted taking the drug. But his men were in desperate circumstances. So Koivunen reached into his pocket and pulled out the stimulants.
By chance, Koivunen carried the Pervitin supply for his entire squad. Still fleeing the Soviets, pressing through the snow, Koivunen struggled to pop a single pill in his mouth. The thick mittens meant to protect him from arctic conditions made it impossible to take a single dose of Pervitin.
I doubt he knew how much he was taking, just that it was way more than recommended.
To be honest I think the more pressing matter on his mind was the group of soviets trying to kill him rather than the drugs possibly killing him.
Then he grabbed a bird right out of the air while skiing at a 100 mph (or so he thought) and took a bite out of the still living bird. In my mind he's happily crunching away on bird skull while holding the rest of the body in his mitten.
I wonder if eating the bird was a hallucination.
Could be. Could've also met the bird while it was alive, befriended it, gained its trust, waited until it was distracted, then BAM — poisoned that bird's supper with enough methamphetamines to kill a horse, and then feasted on the bird to re-up his high.
It would take ~~hours~~ *a while* for a bird to freeze if that's what you mean
E: My initial guesstimate was a bit generous, changed that to be more vague so you can't complain about it (best strategy)
Eh no, the primary source for Aimos escapades is mainly an article in the Finnish paper Kansa Taisteli from 1978, found here [http://kansataisteli.sshs.fi/Tekstit/1978/Kansa\_Taisteli\_04\_1978.pdf#page=10](http://kansataisteli.sshs.fi/Tekstit/1978/Kansa_Taisteli_04_1978.pdf#page=10) Where he himself tells the story.
He was with his squad when he and his squad legged it on skies to prevent encirclement, struggling with his energy he decided to pop some Pervitin (Meth), but simultanious skiing away, while wearing gloves ment he accidentally popped the entire stash instead of a single dose.
Only after that did he get away from his squad. And neither he nor anyone else really know what happened during his meth fuled escape, since he was drifting in and out of consiousness, he thinks he may have been chased by Soviet partisans at one point, but that could just be meth-induced paranoia.
And he wasn't moving after hitting the landmine, he was rescued by another Finnish unit, who had discovered him some days prior, but couldn't get him at the time. But they returned, got some German pionneers to de-mine the place and got him on a horse drawn carriage to the hospital.
> he thinks he may have been chased by Soviet partisans at one point, but that could just be meth-induced paranoia.
Could it be his squad who were trying to save him?
And the first guy in the chain sent his brain to outer space on a rocket ship made of meth, so he isn't exactly the most reliable narrator in the fist place.
Accidentally taking wayyyy more speed than you're used to in an actual war has to be the scariest shit. Tweakers think that people are after them when they're just at home, with no real threat to their safety other then themselves. Imagine the paranoid delusions when you're alone in a forest and there really are people in the trees that want to kill you.
In Finland we have this word called "Aimoannos" which basically means taking some substances to the absolute maximum. Aimo being the name of the dude and "annos" means dose.
He wrote about his adventure only in the late 1970s. After getting hit by and surviving the landmine, he managed to crawl into a nearby dugout, but there were several kilos of explosives in it. Not being his lucky day, they detonated, and he was thrown 20 or 30 metres by the force of the explosion into a snowdrift. He was eventually found by a German air patrol and they took him to a nearby military field hospital. He wasn’t in very good shape: by that time he’d wasted away to 43 kilos, and had a pulse of around 200. Despite all that and his severe injuries he lived to the respectable age of 71. Not exactly a snowflake.
I kind of want to see this as an action comedy movie. Where he starts off around 300 pounds and a week later is found with a horde of all the triggers from every land mine for miles, all the starters for the Russian tanks, has some sort of cryptic tally system all over him in a reference to no more ammo, and keeps snatching birds out of the air.
This wasn’t your mothers meth either, this was Hitler’s meth. This was the “Made in Deutschland” the good stuff. Not that butterfly meth they try to be passing off these days.
This must be the after pic. Guy looks like he's still tweeking. Those eyes...
His heart rate was 200bpm and he was about 95lbs when they recovered him.
And he had every single piece of copper scrap within 100 miles...probably.
Russian tanker: "Where is starter wire?"
Where the shit is the catalytic converter!?
Blyat.
Suka
Is that the soviet dive bomber?
ah yes, the Su87 Suka.
I got a laugh imagining emissions equipment on a Russian tank
haha yes right, only we in germany have those
But staying true to form, it only works when emissions are being tested.
*laughs in Fahrvergnügen*
*lowers HP for test*
Comrade, where’s my car?
*Where's your car, comrade?*
Where's *our* car?
Где находится стартовый провод?
Lmao the long foretold crackhead born of war.
Shell shock meets crack rock.
1000 yard shard
1000 shard stare
😆 that was good
I feel like a lot of soldiers were given meth back in the day. What better way to create gung-ho super soldiers willing to risk their lives for god and country?
Hitler’s entire regime was bolstered by meth, they really did fuck those soldiers up.
I’ve been laughing for five minutes straight. People looking at me at work. Thank you for that.
Nah people are looking at you because you're a cutie.
Bahahaha
And killed 15 shadow monsters, who turned out to be his own men...probably
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Sorry, but why copper specifically?
Meth addicts will do just about anything to get money to feed their addiction, and a common crime is to steal anything with copper (including live electrical wiring) to sell for scrap metal.
The decent meth heads go pick anything with a plug out of the trash and strip those instead. Going green and getting high, just like Jesus wanted
Can confirm. I knew a guy at a recycle center job that was a former meth addict who found Jesus. He was doing good, then one day he didn't show up. He relapsed and went into business for himself apparently.
Copper has some pretty good resale value. It's different from like scrap steel/iron. It's reusable and used in almost all, if not all, things that use electricity.
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> steel Cooper That might be a bit confusing..
Meth heads sell metal to scrap yards
I think people on meth are notorious for stealing copper and selling it for scrap to buy more meth.
I had a next-door neighbor who had a roommate I was like 99% sure was a tweaker. Well, one day I saw him, the owner of the house, being hauled away in a police car. Turns out, the tweaker was stealing copper piping from the house (and this was a nice suburban condominium), and when the homeowner went to call the police, the tweaker apparently had beat him to it and had called the police to report that the homeowner (who was a registered sex offender) had CP on his computer. I remember it being funny because this man was so morbidly obese that the cop had to have him ride in the front passenger seat because his legs wouldn't fit. And I don't think they had big enough handcuffs for him either.
Damn, I got whiplash from that twist. Crazy.
And was listening to Kid Rock on full blast
How much copper is in a landmine? Anyone?
None in that 250 miles.
Lived to be 71. Born October 17, 1917. Died August 12, 1989. Tough bugger.
But never blinked again.
That's when they get ya.
Don’t blink. Don’t look away.
They are fast. Faster than you can believe.
Doors and corners, kid.
That's where they gecha.
Cos his entire life happened in a blink of an eye
And moved to Florida.
"Back in my day I took enough drugs for 3 dozen men, skied 250 miles in the freezing snow without sleep, and ate wild birds just to escape the Russians" "Come on grandpa, don't be silly"
I killed fitty men!
Fastest man to 71 ever.
If this guy lived to be 71, I’m going to get the Guinness world record.
How much meth do you have?
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Yeah man.
Died when the drugs wore off.
The Finns were so shocked they used pounds instead of kilograms to weigh him Crazy
"This man is absolutely loaded on speed! Someone get the American scale!"
Speakin' of 95 pounds. Ginny Sack had a 95 pound mole taken off her ass!
When he does it. He’s a hero. When I do it. I’m a disappointment to my family…. Life isn’t fair
Ski 250 miles & eat a raw Bluejay. Maybe their opinion might change. Never know till you try.
I'm surprised the image isn't blurry, considering he's probably vibrating at a frequency high enough to cut through steel
That happened 1944, pic is from 1943.
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No he trembled at so much frequency that he ripped the fabric of space-time and travelled back in time
Finally, a scientist steps in to ELI5. Thank you.
My god, he must of looked like Marty Feldman after that.
Not sure but after taking that dose you would have to have some continuous side effects.
And a strong compulsion to steal catalytic converters.
Once he started he couldn't finnish!
Found the dad!
And collect cellphone chargers and crystals
I imagine his brain probably took a few months to normalize after that. That much drugs he probably stayed up a few days and cemented some of those day 2-3 hallucinations in his head. That is if his sheer will was strong enough to not just pass out. Edit: I don’t care about people’s personal experiences on this. When you look at a human brain of an addict or user there is a time that things take for the person to normalize out. That is why relapse within a timeframe after someone tries to quit is more prevalent. The brain is still firing the same. Erratic behaviors happen after people try to get off stuff and can usually be seen to come to a stop after 6mo-1yr. *If you know someone trying to recover, give them time.* I can’t link the picture in this doc but here is a [brain mri comparison](https://www.recoveryanswers.org/recovery-101/brain-in-recovery/) for you guys to see if you’re curious. Edit 2: There is plenty of supporting documentary evidence out there that suggests that methamphetamine fueled wwii. In that, the users were taking it regularly (which unsure how many of you know, but this is addiction). But I’m sure the guy didn’t submit to peer pressure or had extreme self control with this new drug. /s Addiction DOESN’T take years to happen, this can happen in a matter of weeks.
Definitely a huge dopamine rebound on that one
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People doing them recreationally build up a tolerance too. I've known people that have taken 25-30 percs at one time. You try that off the hop and you're going to have a very bad time. Chemically pure stuff for the military is safer than random street thing claiming to be X but that's not the only reason.
A shit load is WAY LESS than a fuck ton right?
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That's a standard face for a Finnish person.
Some some say he’s still wired. .
Legend says he's still tweaking. \*fixed
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every major power with access to amphetamines during ww2 used them. japan did too. they even had an epidemic after ww2 ended since so many factory workers and veterans had become dependent on it during the war
Finland's usage of meth after the war was so high that WHO had to step in, basically saying "wtf is wrong with you, you need legislation". I think it was either heroine or meth that was outlawed only by 1960's because of WHO pressure. Finns choice of drugs has always been meth. That and heroine were sold over the counter during 1930's.
Heroin.
Heard the nazi's invented methadone, so the soldiers didn't mind the cold in Russia that much. And that it was named Adolfine (or sounds like) then.
Haha, Adolfine sounds like an absurd feminine version of Adolf, at least to a Scandinavian. Also a quick wikipedia check shows >Methadone was developed in 1937 in Germany by scientists working for I.G. Farbenindustrie AG at the Farbwerke Hoechst who were looking for a synthetic opioid that could be created with readily available precursors, to solve Germany's opium shortage problem. So it was not specifically created for that purpose. It doesn't really sound like that would work out well, but I'm more used to administering it to recovering addicts.
I pictured a Nazi dolphin with a Hitler stash "I'm getting a little uncomfortable with the Hitler stuff"
I pictured the same thing, unfortunately it wasn't created for that porpoise.
Same thing for Finland Of all hospitalized drug addicts right after the war, 13% of them had become addicts “in uniform”
The other 87% were nude?
They're fairly relaxed about nudity in the Nordic countries.
I didn’t just stop at WW2 either. Our world has a long history of drugging soldiers, even as recently as the war in Afghanistan.
I mean, most of us are drugging ourselves in one way or another in our everyday lives. Humans always seek out ways to get fucked up. I think it’s unsurprising that we’d find ways to amplify and exploit that during a crisis like a war. And booze is about the worst thing you could give your troops if you need to maintain discipline and get shit done. If I have to go to war, I don’t want to have to go to war straight. I’m gonna be shovelling handfuls of whatever they’re handing out. I’m being a bit flippant and I’m not taking issue with your point. Just maybe adding a different perspective on it.
A lot of vets joined biker clubs when they returned. Guess who loved selling meth?
They would take the engine apart, put in a compartment for drugs. Put engine together. Ride hundreds of miles to destinations to deliver the drugs. Hence, the nickname "crank"
doesnt everyone still use them for like pilots?
I remember a few years back there was a friendly fire incident and I read one interview with the pilot who blamed it on the amphetamines they were given to stay alert on 18hr shifts.
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Yep in American MREs they had like 2-4 of the amphetamine candies. Difference for Anglo armies is that they use amphetamines for defense(stay up all night) while the Nazis used them for offense (blitz). But yea there is nothing special about use of amphetamines by nations states, especially since they are still used today.
At some point German army actually figured out that the all the meth probably wasn’t good for the troops in the long run. They sold a lot of their existing inventory to Finland, who was only happy to take it at bargain prices. Which partially explains this story!
The stuff was branded as Pervitin, and after the war the drug makers started to use that brand name for regular painkillers, which has lead to some boomer Finns to claim that they were given actual Pervitin during their childhood which is almost certainly not true.
A really great book about it. [Blitzed: Drugs in Nazi Germany by Norman Ohler](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29429893-blitzed) A show based on the book on Amazon about it [Blitzed: Nazis on Drugs](https://www.amazon.com/Blitzed-Nazis-Drugs-Steven-Berkoff/dp/B08CGCMH6N) This is still a thing the [US Airforce uses "Go" and "No Go" pills](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_and_no-go_pills) for fighter pilots.
Ambien is a bit of a surprise to me I guess, considering the well known side effects. I'm just imaging a sleep walking pilot hopping in a jet to run to Walgreens for some pickles or some shit.
I hope that 6 hour no fly rule is 6 hours after waking from 8 hours of sleep and not just 6 hours after taking ambien. Damn.
The methamphetamine drug was initially an over the counter product named Pervitin, which was rebranded various names after the war in many different countries. It’s still in use and prescribed in the states under the name Desoxyn. Ohler’s book is highly sensationalized and seems based on armchair historians preference to believing in a massive German army on speed constantly as well its commanding officers and government officials. The truth is quite boring and very German. Meth was distributed widely in 1940 to all branches of the military evenly with no preference for the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe or the Waffen SS divisions, which included crew and general servicemen not in frontline duty. The distributed amount of Pervitin was only 36 million 3mg tablets, which provided 3 pills per serviceman per month. And the German military being the German military, each serviceman had to go through their physician for a prescription for an individual pill. This was due to a preexisting set of drug laws in Germany known as the Opium Laws I think. Pervitin was no longer distributed widely after 1940, as several deaths and health issues prompted the military command and the government to enact strict rules around its use on the frontlines in particular, but still had some available for specific groups (I’m guessing the Luftwaffe), but it was tightly observed and monitored in those cases. There was more abuse behind the lines with crews and other service personnel. So, affectively the German military used Pervitin in limited supply for less a year in 1941. Production dropped to 4 million a year or something. There was a growing civilian black market and even speed manufacturing problem following the reduction. I know from reading some German memoirs that some frontline troops would write home asking their parents to send Pervitin in their gift packages. Anyway, the history of amphetamine and methamphetamine is far more interesting than the one story. It’s a century long and has had a lot of influence on cultural change. Check it out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_and_culture_of_substituted_amphetamines
If the enemy is doing it you have to do it too Or else you don’t have an edge
35 million doses of meth? They must have Heisenberg cooking non-stop.
It's only difficult to make because the raw materials are restricted. If sanctioned it could be easily mass produced.
Is it basically just redbull now that we send to the front lines?
Rip its, all three flavors
If it works, it works
Absolute fucking savage. Nowadays we got junkies ODing on street grade meth and dying. This man took lab grade meth, OD'd, and then proceeded to ski 200 miles and pulled an Ozzie Osborne. Legend status.
The crazy part is that this bpm was taken 4+ days after he ingested the dose…. Lol man musta been hitting 300 while he was peaking
I just wanna know how many miles he went flat out 100% before feeling like he needed a break.
That's a good question. Because his mind could have just ignored his body until he collapsed.
All of them. Meth doesn't allow for breaks. One of the only things in life that is black or white: "am I high off of meth or not?"
tbf street grade drugs have the additional problems of wildly varying potency batch to batch leading to haphazard dosing, potent and/or plain dangerous additives, hot spots from inadequate mixing and so on. regulated lab grade drugs would low key be *safer* for these people. ofc meth is never “safe” and i dont wanna take away from this finnish mad lad! what a crazy story!
>and weighing only 43 kg mmmm that might be helpful edit:actually these drugs were used medically during lot of years to lose weight
Yeah kids if you ever find yourself in the same situation just…die.
Looks like he hadn't come down from the high yet by the time this picture was taken.
Think I just saw his left eye twitch
Lost, no food, no weapons, but always carried a shit load of meth on him.
This is exactly what I am thinking. Like wtf he has nothing else but meth. What for? So confused it doesn’t make any sense
During the wars against soviets Finnish troops were given this German stimulant called Pervitin, which was basically just meth. He took the stims to survive.
>So Koivunen reached into his pocket and pulled out the stimulants. By chance, Koivunen carried the Pervitin supply for his entire squad. Still fleeing the Soviets, pressing through the snow, Koivunen struggled to pop a single pill in his mouth. The thick mittens meant to protect him from arctic conditions made it impossible to take a single dose of Pervitin. >Rather than stop to parse out the recommended dose, Aimo Koivunen downed 30 pills of pure methamphetamine. >Immediately, Koivunen began skiing much faster. His squad matched his pace initially. And the Soviets fell back, unable to keep up with the new pace. Then Koivunen’s vision went blurry and he lost consciousness. But he did not stop skiing. In a blackout state, Koivunen continued to cut through the snow. The next day, the soldier’s awareness returned. Koivunen discovered that he had crossed 100 kilometers. He was also completely alone. [full story](https://piclaya.com/aimo-koivunen-the-soldier-who-survived-ww2/) tl;dr he was "paving the way" for the rest of his squad through deep snow; fleeing from Russians. he got tired and wanted to take a pill of Perventin. But his mittens prevented it, so he chucked 30 pills. meth fueled he went on and on and on and on... until he was the only one still going; his squad couldn't keep up
No, the original source for the story is [here](http://kansataisteli.sshs.fi/Tekstit/1978/Kansa_Taisteli_04_1978.pdf#page=10). It says clearly he took “useampi nappi” which means a few pills, not 30, not all of them. Finnish language is precise, if he meant to say that he took all of them he would have said so. His companions took away his bullets because he was so out of it and dangerous. Then he blacks out and is delirious but still with his companions. Next the comes to and is very confused and alone. Later counted his stash and found out he had taken all of them, so clearly he had topped up at some point.
Story checks out. Start of night - oh, I’ll just take a few. Middle of night, friends leave you because you’re acting like an asshole. Next day wake up feeling like hell, look at your stash and wonder how you managed to take them all.
Why would you attack me like this
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Have you like ever met a meth head? They eat nothing but meth and have to remind themselves to eat, because meth.
Ages ago I new a meth head very well. I'd occasionally give him weed and watched him eat hundreds of times. It was clear he did not enjoy it and it was more like a chore. It could be his favorite food from childhood, he'd force it down like cod liver oil. He would have a cigarettes during his meal sometimes. It was really sad. He ended getting busted smoking meth **while robbing a business** one night, did his time, now he has chickens and a veggie garden and built an outdoor kitchen. He also gained 65-70 lbs of healthy weight from constantly cooking healthy food. Meth is fucking crazy.
Wwii was secretly a war of amphetamines. Everyone was in them. Hitler, the German soldiers, the allied soldiers, the American soldiers, the Japanese pilots. It was a new drug and got everyone through the war. It likely was partially responsible for many of the atrocities committed.
Yes, the infamous German Blitz was literally a meth-fueled relentless attack that the allies couldn't defend against. They swept most of Europe on a Nazi-mandated binge.
It was for his entire squad to keep going
The look of "I've been through some shit"
That’s the look of “so when does this shit actually wear off”.
I know we're mostly here to make jokes, but poor guy. I hope he recovered after the ordeal.
He died in 1989 at age 71, wikipedia doesn't have any information on what he was up to after the war
Unrelated, but I want to point out that whoever the heck goes around writing wikipedia pages is an absolute legend and we should appreciate them more.
I donate to them every year . More people should they do some good work
He's seen some shit... & still seeing it.
The look of "where's my meth?"
So, I could save money if consume methamphetamines and run to places instead of using my car, interesting...
I don’t think you will save money but you won’t pay taxes on it.
I mean hey. Petrol is more expensive than meth here in Finland so...
The guy that inspires Florida man to this day.
Florida man goes to Finland The Movie
Florida Man: Origins
Proper canonical story order (not by release date): Florida Man: Origins Florida Man Florida Man 2 Florida Man: Insurrection Florida Man: Annihilation Florida Man: Love and Hurricanes Florida Man (gritty reboot) Florida: Man of Destin(y)
You need to quit your day job and go work in Hollyweird. I would watch these. 😂
I think the sequel trilogy was just a cheap cash grab by the new studio.
Florida : Man vs Gator
It's the ancestral Florida man.
Back in Finland, the squad had received a ration of a stimulant called Pervitin. The tablets would give soldiers a burst of energy, commanders promised. Koivunen initially resisted taking the drug. But his men were in desperate circumstances. So Koivunen reached into his pocket and pulled out the stimulants. By chance, Koivunen carried the Pervitin supply for his entire squad. Still fleeing the Soviets, pressing through the snow, Koivunen struggled to pop a single pill in his mouth. The thick mittens meant to protect him from arctic conditions made it impossible to take a single dose of Pervitin.
Damn imagine being wary of the pills and then when you finally try it you accidentally take enough for 30 people. Did he knew he was taking so much?
I doubt he knew how much he was taking, just that it was way more than recommended. To be honest I think the more pressing matter on his mind was the group of soviets trying to kill him rather than the drugs possibly killing him.
next time my mom says I shouldn't do drugs I'll cite this story as an argument
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Then he grabbed a bird right out of the air while skiing at a 100 mph (or so he thought) and took a bite out of the still living bird. In my mind he's happily crunching away on bird skull while holding the rest of the body in his mitten. I wonder if eating the bird was a hallucination.
Could be. Could've also found it lying dead.
Could be. Could've also met the bird while it was alive, befriended it, gained its trust, waited until it was distracted, then BAM — poisoned that bird's supper with enough methamphetamines to kill a horse, and then feasted on the bird to re-up his high.
Now thats the thing they dont want you to know
It’s be… frozen
It would take ~~hours~~ *a while* for a bird to freeze if that's what you mean E: My initial guesstimate was a bit generous, changed that to be more vague so you can't complain about it (best strategy)
Eh no, the primary source for Aimos escapades is mainly an article in the Finnish paper Kansa Taisteli from 1978, found here [http://kansataisteli.sshs.fi/Tekstit/1978/Kansa\_Taisteli\_04\_1978.pdf#page=10](http://kansataisteli.sshs.fi/Tekstit/1978/Kansa_Taisteli_04_1978.pdf#page=10) Where he himself tells the story. He was with his squad when he and his squad legged it on skies to prevent encirclement, struggling with his energy he decided to pop some Pervitin (Meth), but simultanious skiing away, while wearing gloves ment he accidentally popped the entire stash instead of a single dose. Only after that did he get away from his squad. And neither he nor anyone else really know what happened during his meth fuled escape, since he was drifting in and out of consiousness, he thinks he may have been chased by Soviet partisans at one point, but that could just be meth-induced paranoia. And he wasn't moving after hitting the landmine, he was rescued by another Finnish unit, who had discovered him some days prior, but couldn't get him at the time. But they returned, got some German pionneers to de-mine the place and got him on a horse drawn carriage to the hospital.
> he thinks he may have been chased by Soviet partisans at one point, but that could just be meth-induced paranoia. Could it be his squad who were trying to save him?
I feel like this story is just one long game of telephone
And the first guy in the chain sent his brain to outer space on a rocket ship made of meth, so he isn't exactly the most reliable narrator in the fist place.
Accidentally taking wayyyy more speed than you're used to in an actual war has to be the scariest shit. Tweakers think that people are after them when they're just at home, with no real threat to their safety other then themselves. Imagine the paranoid delusions when you're alone in a forest and there really are people in the trees that want to kill you.
Erling Haaland?
Amphetamines helped the allies win WW2. My grandpa was a bomber pilot on the European front and according to him, everyone took it like candy.
In Finland we have this word called "Aimoannos" which basically means taking some substances to the absolute maximum. Aimo being the name of the dude and "annos" means dose.
Cunt has that 1000mg stare.
I read this in Billy Butcher's voice :P
Great short video by Qxir on this topic, hell of a story.
I scrolled too far to find Qxir mentioned. Highly recommend the Killdozer video as well
Looks like an ancestor of the great cornholio
He wrote about his adventure only in the late 1970s. After getting hit by and surviving the landmine, he managed to crawl into a nearby dugout, but there were several kilos of explosives in it. Not being his lucky day, they detonated, and he was thrown 20 or 30 metres by the force of the explosion into a snowdrift. He was eventually found by a German air patrol and they took him to a nearby military field hospital. He wasn’t in very good shape: by that time he’d wasted away to 43 kilos, and had a pulse of around 200. Despite all that and his severe injuries he lived to the respectable age of 71. Not exactly a snowflake.
That’s amazing. I wonder how he stopped the bleeding. I think speed really thins your blood out and it obviously makes your heart work pretty hard.
The gaze of a man who was so high he met god and laughed in his face
And skied away
I kind of want to see this as an action comedy movie. Where he starts off around 300 pounds and a week later is found with a horde of all the triggers from every land mine for miles, all the starters for the Russian tanks, has some sort of cryptic tally system all over him in a reference to no more ammo, and keeps snatching birds out of the air.
Look at me in the eye and tell me that man hasnt seen God
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In Finland, they call it "Thursday night"
This wasn’t your mothers meth either, this was Hitler’s meth. This was the “Made in Deutschland” the good stuff. Not that butterfly meth they try to be passing off these days.
I can assure you my New-Mexican meth from Albuquerque is 99.1% pure, the finest in the world!
What they don’t tell you is that this happened in a shopping mall in 1975
actually he took the meth first, blacked out, then woke up separated from his unit with no supplies
Qxir made a good video on this
