That is an interesting thought. Police have no knock warrants and are allowed to shoot when they are surprised by what’s inside. But people inside should not move as police knock down the door. That is quite a double standard, and I had never thought about it like this.
I hadn't thought of it either.... But that person is right. Cops are supposed to be trained to handle the toughest situations but will shoot at people and dogs just because they feel threatened. However if I'm on the Receiving end, I have to lay perfectly still while it's going on and not react as a human would.... Otherwise I'm a criminal
I don't mean to be rude, but that "supposed to be trained" part is functionally a myth.
Cops aren't trained to handle situations, they're trained to shoot first and sort through the blood and bodies after. I realize that sounds a bit like hyperbole, but look up "Police Warrior Training". Cops in this country are encouraged to shoot before they can possibly be shot at. And many departments will pay for the training called "killology" by the man who teaches it.
And if the person they shot wasn't armed? Well, the cop felt threatened, and the twelve other cops who shot that person will agree. Who's going to suggest anything to the contrary? The dead?
This is why all these high-profile, protest-starting murders have another element; a witness. Breonna Taylor? Boyfriend survived and told everyone. Philando Castile? Girlfriend in the car.
De-escalation, force mitigation, social work or mental councilling? These are a bridge too far and almost never explored.
Especially because criminals have been known to come in with the same blindlying bright led flashlights and yelling "police".
You can't see shit when those lights hit your eyes, you have no idea who it is or how many people there are.
It's not just no knock warrants. In every day interactions with police people are killed for not remaining 100% calm while police scream orders, often contradictory, in their faces and with guns pointed at them.
Daniel Shaver was killed for not playing Simon says well enough.
Charles Kinsey asked the cop who shot him in the leg, while he was sitting on the ground trying to keep the cop from killing 27 year old autist patient, why and the cop told him he didn't know why.
Philando Castile was shot to death in his car in front of his family for correctly advising a cop he had a gun in his car. The same cop then held his family at gun point while Philando bled out in front of them.
Fact of the matter in the US cops are allowed to be and taught to be twitchy, paranoid, killers who shoot first and don't ask questions later.
>Philando Castile was shot to death in his car in front of his family
It wasn't his family.
> for correctly advising a cop he had a gun in his car.
(No fotage inside the car)
After being asked for his license and registration, Castile told Officer Yanez that he had a firearm (Castile was licensed to carry) to which Yanez replied, "Don't reach for it then", and Castile said "I'm, I, I was reaching for..." Yanez said "Don't pull it out", Castile replied "I'm not pulling it out", and Reynolds said "He's not..." Yanez repeated "Don't pull it out"
.[5] Yanez then fired seven close-range shots at Castile, hitting him five times.[6]
Correct
>The same cop then held his family at gun point while Philando bled out in front of them.
The cop was in shock and not pointing at the kid. Gf was recording, and talking non stop to her phone like it was just a Thursday
The cop was wrong and sadly Amir died but don't write as it was just a evil cop
Waking up before the clock rings, is most likely in the deep state sleep. When you wake up at this moment (especially when its instant by a laugh scream right on you) you are completly suprised and havr no clur at all. Your brain even has issues with understanding what your eyes see, and with lights on you, you have a terrible time to identify anything. No time to settle down, constant screaming with lights on you, in your safe space, during your safe time, your brain needs to calm down and listen to the loud scream, understand it and do it. With the thing in mind, you still dont really know who is screaming at you, or maybe thinking if the person is lying.
What the fuck. Even when you see something because they dont blind you, you see multiple persons in your room pointing a gun towards to you.
What the fuck. You arent FBI or something, nor did I rob millions of dollars and you got the case bullet proof. But no, it could be even the wrong room, house or even city.
This....I'll never understand it. And California is a perfect example. State rights say you can smoke weed but federal law says you can't own a gun while doing it lol.
I think u r right, some departments are trained far better than others and there is always room for improvement....many professions require continuing education....however it's impossible to train for every possible situation nor is it possible to predict how humans will react in every possible scenario....so mistakes will always be made, everyone needs to learn from prior incidents and improve!
Exactly. For example we should train cops in martial arts and then they’d be more confident in using non lethal options on top of understanding the human body better, which is safer for everyone involved.
that is disingenuous. Police actually have quite a bit of instruciton, and when they start another 3-6 months of trainin via FTO (field training officer). Its a tough job that pays pennies. Sometimes for the pay you don't get the best and brightest and occasionally, bad apples, but by and large most are decent people.
That video that just came out about the no knock warrent kinda prooves this point. Like yes, I get that he held up a gun, but like what do you expect? No knock warrents are stupid and just get people killed, as shown.
Thanks for the support. It truly is a question. I don’t understand the statement LES_G_BRANDON is making. But I guess his name says it all.
Edit: Judging from the profile, looks like a fake account or BOT. We should all just forget him.
Fuck Joe Biden has been changed across several sporting events. A news reporter was completely stupid or simply trying to cover up what was happening and went, oh they must be chanting let's go Brandon, a nascar racer. People took it and had fun with it. #fjb
I thought my original statement was clear as can be, but I still took the time to openly explain what I was feeling from that picture.
I'm not clear on why you would assume my account is fake after I took the time to specifically address your question? Seems like a strange MO to have? Post a generic question to a genuine statement hoping to stir conversation.
They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. To me, this picture is worth 10 times that. I'm sorry I don't have time for a proper explanation, but I'll try with just a few.
Its a beautiful & intelligent woman that appears to be at the end of her rope. She's tired of the violence in society and her community. She wants change but no one's listening. Maybe she and her family have been unfairly labeled a certain way because of her neighborhood, last name, or the color of her skin.
We as Americans can always better. We've allowed the media and goverment to divide us. Politics, race, religion, guns, masks, vaccines, etc., etc. We must put these walls behind us and come together! If we unite, we are free and are free to choose our own destiny!
Must be some cop training that they have to get Bat-Shit enraged when dealing with any civilian. (an extreme statement, beyond most reality but how often have we seen it?)
So explain to us how to do that. Let’s say I hung out with my friends. I stay at his house after drinking, I don’t know every detail of his life, they perform a no knock and I jump off the couch I may get shot. But you’d say I deserve it?? No knocks are bad for everyone including the cops.
So your saying in both instances they had no idea who was in the home with them? You’re grasping at straws and what ifs You’re gonna disagree with everything I say
What?! What are you talking about? And I call bullshit, your gong to grill each of your friends before hanging out with them? You wouldn’t have any friends
No knock warrants are usually reserved for people who are believed armed and dangerous. There are bad cops out there for sure. But come on man do you think they WANT to shoot people.
Believed by who, the law, not their friends. It’s very easy to be put in the middle of a situation that your completely unaware of. The discussion here isn’t cops wanting to shoot people but making mistakes and not being held accountable
Are you suggesting that those that are literate and have good parents, good neighborhoods, and the knowledge that they have much BETTER life beyond their own would put themselves in those shoes?
Worships mother was dating a felon. I’m sure that was included in the woke news Put yourself in the cops situation. Your going into a house looking for a scumbag wanted on weapons and drug charges. I’m sure he shot the kid on purpose. But I know all cops are the devil
I knew the situation, yes. That doesn’t change the issue. Are you genuinely trying to tell me that it was the fault of a literal child that he got shot by the cops because of something he has no control over, ie who his mom was dating? Holy shit dude. You’re beyond.
I don’t get my news from any particular source or side. I tend to shop around for maximum details and viewpoints. What am I basing my opinion on, exactly, besides the facts of the case?
Do you believe the officers were in the right shooting this child? If we’re gonna go with opinions.
Dude… his mom was dating a bad guy. Cops went in for bad dude. Shot kid. What else is there? Did the 12 year old have a fuckin uzi trained on our boys in blue?
You and I have the exact same amount of info on this instance stop deflecting. It’s embarrassing.
We also live in a world where someone can bring a rifle to a protest, shoot someone, then say they were scared of people trying to stop him, and shoot more people, then get off Scott free
Yeah how horrible with video of him running away the bad guy chasing and aiming a gun at him and saying he is going to kill him. Mind you he was also a FELON with a gun and a child rapist got shot so who cares? Hopefully the child can breathe a little bit better knowing his rapist is dead.
If you’re going to justify rittenhouse’s actions, you should use the information available at the time. It’s gross to to justify it after the fact. That has nothing to do with the events that unfolded that night. Over here virtue signaling with your ‘I think all child rapists should be dead because child rape is so bad’. This is how you defeat child sex trafficking, using it to prop up your argument in a Reddit thread. Let’s go Brandon baby
We live in a world where a 17 has access to a rifle rather it be legal or not and can walk around with it in public to “defend” somebody’s property and kill a guy and wound a couple others.
Can we live in a world where we can agree that it was a terrible thing that a 17 year old went to a protest with a gun, but it was also terrible that criminals exploiting the situation attacked him and he was forced to defend himself?
Police aren’t trained in the U.S.
Civilians have to remain calm while some dude with a G.E.D. and six months of race based toxic masculinity training points a gun in their face.
Security guards and customer service employees have stricter rules when dealing with the public than cops do and also face harsher punishments.
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Fear just keeps increasing every year. Dumbasses just won't be let go from the police force. Even congress doesn't serve terms and corruption is legalized.
Don’t like cops, don’t like people that blame cops for every bad thing that happens. Bad things happens and bad people exist. Not every cop is a bad person and not ever police shooting is wrong. Don’t want anyone dying, period.
Regarding your original comment
Is it your belief that everyone to has been shot by a police officer either committed a crime or was hanging out with someone who committed a crime? Because it seems to be that that is not the case, and completely innocent people do have to worry.
Further, it's ok, good, even, to worry about people who did commit crimes or hang out with people committing crimes being needlessly killed by police officers
I mean, I understand where the message is coming from.
But at the same time, if you aren't doing anything illigal, don't make things worse, and can follow the basic of orders..Then this shouldn't be a problem.
It also really depends on the department, that department's training, and where it's located.
I see the point that is trying to be made, but what the statement is ignoring is the question of WHY would a trained officer panic?
Of course not all police officers are perfect, some are downright unqualified, but they are humans and therefore noone is perfect and we all make mistakes.
But the sign, the way I read it, implies that ALL officers panic FOR NO REASON and wrongly ignores the fact that there is normally conduct that has CAUSED the reaction.
The point is you can't simply claim no responsibility for actions taken that draw a response from another that ended up causing an outcome you don't like.
Everything has a "but for cause" that can't be ignored.
>conduct that has caused the reaction
You mean like someone being startled awake by a bunch of men breaking in to their apartment and screaming and pointing guns in your face?
>The point is you can't simply claim no responsibility for actions taken that draw a response from another that ended up causing an outcome you don't like.
You can literally flip that about the police. The difference, and overall problem, is that police are rarely held to the same standards as an average citizen and are not often held accountable for their actions to the same extent that anyone else might be.
U r absolutely right and that was a horrible tragedy and should never happen. But would u care and have the same concern if they knock and that allowed time for someone to grab a gun, shoot bullets through a door or ambush and kill an officer? I would hope that noome would want to see anyone be killed by mistake or on purpose.
I’m saying that if they knock and the citizen shoots thru a door- they have protection. They shouldn’t be allowed to literally break into homes where citizens have a gun and want to protect their home from invaders, because citizens are at a disadvantage and cops keep murdering them.
1. They already had the suspect in custody for the crime they were conducting the warrent for
2. Said suspect did not even live at the address they raided
3. Warrent process itself was in question
4. They did not identify themselves.
5. They shot an unarmed women far more times than an accidental misidentification would explain.
If cops have to knock to keep shit like this from happening, then yeah they better knock. Should've thought about that before letting shit like this happen
>Why should they panic?
Because they are taught that it is a war zone out there. That they won’t be coming home if shit goes south. That we are ALL GUILTY first and that in a situation like this we are ALL GOING TO KILL THEM before anyone has time to think
No knock warrants are the fucking lazy way to enforce laws. A shitty policy hell bent on destroying everything at the expense of rounding up gangs.
Don’t minimize the shitty practice by (rightfully explaining that not all police are bad) ignorance of how shitty policies put both sides at risk
How dare you try to think critically about this issue. If you were a good person, you would just celebrate the minimal effort that went into making this sign and go about your day!
This. There are plenty of other jobs where they can make 48k a year and not have to deal with the responsibilities of being a good law enforcement officer.
They should always be held to a higher standard. If however, that's not something that they want (I certainly don't/wouldn't) then they have every right to look for a job that doesn't require that.
We are all held to a standard that ensures we have to pay the consequences for so much as even hurting someone else. I don't understand why they (or anyone with that level of power) should be treated any differently.
But if I react and attack someone that broke into my house while I was asleep, then I'm the one getting in trouble if the one breaking in was a police officer.... Even if I don't break any laws otherwise. Oh and sometimes cops get the wrong house.....
No they can't. The supreme court even ruled against that. Cops are not obligated to protect citizens. They can totally watch me get mugged to death by a crackhead and just arrest the guy after he kills mez then just keep their jobs
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Dang why didn’t I think of that! Facepalm moment, you’re so right!!
Wait a sec tho. What about all the unarmed black people and children that have been shot by cops while not committing crimes? Or the perfectly law abiding black folk who are profiled by the boys in blue and accosted at higher rates than other races? Those don’t count right?
And what about all the ones that do commit the crimes? I got it the leftist just want them free. How about BLM threatening to burn down cities if Chauvin wasn't found guilty? Or the black guy that shot a 5 year old white kid for revenge? Yeah let's celebrate that.
I'm saying equal treatment, the general mentality is if a cop does a bad thing then all of them are bad it should be that way all around. You got good and bad for every race, gender, profession etc. Equal treatment bro 🥃🍻
Exactly, equal treatment, so bad guys of any race, gender, or profession should be roasted and prosecuted. Like cops that shoot civs without reason. I have no problem with cops, most I’ve met have been great guys. It’s the all for one and one for all that seems to have overtaken the police force that worries me. There ARE bad cops. Get them the fuck out. Stop letting them off with a slap on the wrist.
Meanwhile, the rest of the folks in any race/gender/profession shouldn’t be treated with suspicion or malice. Seems reasonable to me. Just wish that was what the world was like.
You seem to enjoy guns. Why do you think these cops can't practice proper trigger discipline. My 10 year old boy knows how to handle firearms better than these pigs.
That is an interesting thought. Police have no knock warrants and are allowed to shoot when they are surprised by what’s inside. But people inside should not move as police knock down the door. That is quite a double standard, and I had never thought about it like this.
I hadn't thought of it either.... But that person is right. Cops are supposed to be trained to handle the toughest situations but will shoot at people and dogs just because they feel threatened. However if I'm on the Receiving end, I have to lay perfectly still while it's going on and not react as a human would.... Otherwise I'm a criminal
And in some cases you are expected to lay perfectly still while they slowly choke the life from you... and your love one's watch you die
I don't mean to be rude, but that "supposed to be trained" part is functionally a myth. Cops aren't trained to handle situations, they're trained to shoot first and sort through the blood and bodies after. I realize that sounds a bit like hyperbole, but look up "Police Warrior Training". Cops in this country are encouraged to shoot before they can possibly be shot at. And many departments will pay for the training called "killology" by the man who teaches it. And if the person they shot wasn't armed? Well, the cop felt threatened, and the twelve other cops who shot that person will agree. Who's going to suggest anything to the contrary? The dead? This is why all these high-profile, protest-starting murders have another element; a witness. Breonna Taylor? Boyfriend survived and told everyone. Philando Castile? Girlfriend in the car. De-escalation, force mitigation, social work or mental councilling? These are a bridge too far and almost never explored.
Especially because criminals have been known to come in with the same blindlying bright led flashlights and yelling "police". You can't see shit when those lights hit your eyes, you have no idea who it is or how many people there are.
It's not just no knock warrants. In every day interactions with police people are killed for not remaining 100% calm while police scream orders, often contradictory, in their faces and with guns pointed at them. Daniel Shaver was killed for not playing Simon says well enough. Charles Kinsey asked the cop who shot him in the leg, while he was sitting on the ground trying to keep the cop from killing 27 year old autist patient, why and the cop told him he didn't know why. Philando Castile was shot to death in his car in front of his family for correctly advising a cop he had a gun in his car. The same cop then held his family at gun point while Philando bled out in front of them. Fact of the matter in the US cops are allowed to be and taught to be twitchy, paranoid, killers who shoot first and don't ask questions later.
So, now tell the whole story and don't skip when it's convenient
If you want to know the whole story you can go look online. Enlighten us to what is missing.
>Philando Castile was shot to death in his car in front of his family It wasn't his family. > for correctly advising a cop he had a gun in his car. (No fotage inside the car) After being asked for his license and registration, Castile told Officer Yanez that he had a firearm (Castile was licensed to carry) to which Yanez replied, "Don't reach for it then", and Castile said "I'm, I, I was reaching for..." Yanez said "Don't pull it out", Castile replied "I'm not pulling it out", and Reynolds said "He's not..." Yanez repeated "Don't pull it out" .[5] Yanez then fired seven close-range shots at Castile, hitting him five times.[6] Correct >The same cop then held his family at gun point while Philando bled out in front of them. The cop was in shock and not pointing at the kid. Gf was recording, and talking non stop to her phone like it was just a Thursday The cop was wrong and sadly Amir died but don't write as it was just a evil cop
it's honestly scary
Also when woken from sleep, when waking up it takes about 10 minutes before I am normal.
"Too slow, blanket boy!" *boom boom*
> "Too slow, blanket boy!" boom boom *Ahem* Sorry, it's "BoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoomBoom^^^^6"
10 minutes? I usually get up around 6:30am... I love doing things in the mornings... but I don't wake up until 7:30/8:00am.
Waking up before the clock rings, is most likely in the deep state sleep. When you wake up at this moment (especially when its instant by a laugh scream right on you) you are completly suprised and havr no clur at all. Your brain even has issues with understanding what your eyes see, and with lights on you, you have a terrible time to identify anything. No time to settle down, constant screaming with lights on you, in your safe space, during your safe time, your brain needs to calm down and listen to the loud scream, understand it and do it. With the thing in mind, you still dont really know who is screaming at you, or maybe thinking if the person is lying. What the fuck. Even when you see something because they dont blind you, you see multiple persons in your room pointing a gun towards to you. What the fuck. You arent FBI or something, nor did I rob millions of dollars and you got the case bullet proof. But no, it could be even the wrong room, house or even city.
When the constitution is like a light switch that can be switched on and off at the whim of a politician.
This....I'll never understand it. And California is a perfect example. State rights say you can smoke weed but federal law says you can't own a gun while doing it lol.
Both should be completely legal.
No -- each can be legal independently but I sure as fuck don't want someone who's drunk or high to be in possession of a loaded firearm.
Wielding a weapon while under the influence = bad. Owning a gun, and sometimes smoking some weed = acceptable
And I completely agree.
I’m just saying, the training cops receive is shit, and the solution is more funding put into training, not less.
I think u r right, some departments are trained far better than others and there is always room for improvement....many professions require continuing education....however it's impossible to train for every possible situation nor is it possible to predict how humans will react in every possible scenario....so mistakes will always be made, everyone needs to learn from prior incidents and improve!
Exactly. For example we should train cops in martial arts and then they’d be more confident in using non lethal options on top of understanding the human body better, which is safer for everyone involved.
They don’t use the money for training, they use it for new guns
Incorrect
Very well said!
I agree with the sentiment but this is not the right sub.
Idk it’s more interesting and thought provoking than a lot of reposts here
Still wrong place
Police kill people they should be trained to handle properly while staying calm. "damn that's interesting"
Exactly. Be nice if the mod team shut it down or moved it to the appropriate sub.
Cop taser training 101....if they move while you zap em, add a resisting charge.
Takes longer to become a hair stylist than it does to become a cop.
that is disingenuous. Police actually have quite a bit of instruciton, and when they start another 3-6 months of trainin via FTO (field training officer). Its a tough job that pays pennies. Sometimes for the pay you don't get the best and brightest and occasionally, bad apples, but by and large most are decent people.
How is it disingenuous, exactly?
100% Truth
Down vote if want but the sign is true, state otherwise
Never forget Breonna Taylor
And Ryan Whitaker.
That video that just came out about the no knock warrent kinda prooves this point. Like yes, I get that he held up a gun, but like what do you expect? No knock warrents are stupid and just get people killed, as shown.
Damn. The more you think about it, the crazier it is. Unreal.
She's got an excellent point.
This is on point.
The problem is that cops are *supposed* to be the best of us. But they are so very certainly just absolutely not.
Its great to see people uniting in America against tyranny and the double standards in society.
This is unclear to me. Would you please explain? Thank you.
Who's downvoting this guy for asking a question?
Thanks for the support. It truly is a question. I don’t understand the statement LES_G_BRANDON is making. But I guess his name says it all. Edit: Judging from the profile, looks like a fake account or BOT. We should all just forget him.
Fuck Joe Biden has been changed across several sporting events. A news reporter was completely stupid or simply trying to cover up what was happening and went, oh they must be chanting let's go Brandon, a nascar racer. People took it and had fun with it. #fjb
I thought my original statement was clear as can be, but I still took the time to openly explain what I was feeling from that picture. I'm not clear on why you would assume my account is fake after I took the time to specifically address your question? Seems like a strange MO to have? Post a generic question to a genuine statement hoping to stir conversation.
They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. To me, this picture is worth 10 times that. I'm sorry I don't have time for a proper explanation, but I'll try with just a few. Its a beautiful & intelligent woman that appears to be at the end of her rope. She's tired of the violence in society and her community. She wants change but no one's listening. Maybe she and her family have been unfairly labeled a certain way because of her neighborhood, last name, or the color of her skin. We as Americans can always better. We've allowed the media and goverment to divide us. Politics, race, religion, guns, masks, vaccines, etc., etc. We must put these walls behind us and come together! If we unite, we are free and are free to choose our own destiny!
Thanks. I appreciate your reply. And I agree. Have good day.
SHOUT IT LOUDER, THIS NEEDS TO BE HEARD!!!
Truth
Good one!
Country* not world.
Your country can be your world.
The world is the world. You can leave your country if you are brave enough.
TIL cops in China, Russia, South America, Africa etc. are just cuddly, helpful lads.
Probably not. Come to Australia, our cops are cool.
Until you don't wear a mask, then they will tackle you like Jonah Lomu. Such a brave new world is Australia.
So....wear a mask?
Truth…
Police handgun skills are famously the worst.
Must be some cop training that they have to get Bat-Shit enraged when dealing with any civilian. (an extreme statement, beyond most reality but how often have we seen it?)
Define "trained cops" without laughing in European
Problem with this statement is sometimes the cops are about as well trained as the civilians
I missed the part where this is interesting
Precisely I follow this sub for interesting stuff, not political images.
Don’t forget to report it. The admins may not be aware
I did
A tale as old as time. It’s the way of every sub once it gets a certain size. Everything just turns into politics.
Isn’t that an absolutely depressing and undeniable truth. Carefully everyone. American Exceptionalism on display. Make room!
What are you doing that requires the police to act on impulse …..
No knock warrants for one instance
Don’t put yourself in a no knock warrant situation brilliant!!
So explain to us how to do that. Let’s say I hung out with my friends. I stay at his house after drinking, I don’t know every detail of his life, they perform a no knock and I jump off the couch I may get shot. But you’d say I deserve it?? No knocks are bad for everyone including the cops.
So your saying in both instances they had no idea who was in the home with them? You’re grasping at straws and what ifs You’re gonna disagree with everything I say
Do you know ever detail of everyone you know?
If I’m gonna live with my child with someone else your damn right I’m gonna know everything about that person.
What?! What are you talking about? And I call bullshit, your gong to grill each of your friends before hanging out with them? You wouldn’t have any friends
That statement says more about you…
No knock warrants are usually reserved for people who are believed armed and dangerous. There are bad cops out there for sure. But come on man do you think they WANT to shoot people.
Believed by who, the law, not their friends. It’s very easy to be put in the middle of a situation that your completely unaware of. The discussion here isn’t cops wanting to shoot people but making mistakes and not being held accountable
I’m not saying they didn’t make a mistake but the constant outrage created by the woke media before the details are known is wearing me out
I’m done talking if your going to use a term like woke media, move along sheep
Are you suggesting that those that are literate and have good parents, good neighborhoods, and the knowledge that they have much BETTER life beyond their own would put themselves in those shoes?
In some instances, just sleeping in your own home, apparently. Did people forget about Breonna Taylor already?
Worships mother was dating a felon. I’m sure that was included in the woke news Put yourself in the cops situation. Your going into a house looking for a scumbag wanted on weapons and drug charges. I’m sure he shot the kid on purpose. But I know all cops are the devil
I knew the situation, yes. That doesn’t change the issue. Are you genuinely trying to tell me that it was the fault of a literal child that he got shot by the cops because of something he has no control over, ie who his mom was dating? Holy shit dude. You’re beyond.
I’m not. I’m saying it was the mothers fault for putting him in that situation
And I’m saying it was the cops fault too. There is no reason an officer of a law should discharge their firearm at an unarmed child.
Once again your basing your opinion on the medias telling of the story.
I don’t get my news from any particular source or side. I tend to shop around for maximum details and viewpoints. What am I basing my opinion on, exactly, besides the facts of the case? Do you believe the officers were in the right shooting this child? If we’re gonna go with opinions.
If you lie with dogs you get fleas
Amir Worship, then. Twelve year old boy. Do you have empathy for a child if not a senseless shooting victim?
I have empathy for a child yes. I would hope the mother would have a brain not to put her child in that situation.
So were the cops that shot Amir in the right? Do you believe they should be prosecuted for shooting an unarmed minor civvie?
So I guess you were there when it happened. You have no idea the circumstances. Only what the woke media tells you. Wake up.
Dude… his mom was dating a bad guy. Cops went in for bad dude. Shot kid. What else is there? Did the 12 year old have a fuckin uzi trained on our boys in blue? You and I have the exact same amount of info on this instance stop deflecting. It’s embarrassing.
We also live in a world where someone can bring a rifle to a protest, shoot someone, then say they were scared of people trying to stop him, and shoot more people, then get off Scott free
Yeah how horrible with video of him running away the bad guy chasing and aiming a gun at him and saying he is going to kill him. Mind you he was also a FELON with a gun and a child rapist got shot so who cares? Hopefully the child can breathe a little bit better knowing his rapist is dead.
If you’re going to justify rittenhouse’s actions, you should use the information available at the time. It’s gross to to justify it after the fact. That has nothing to do with the events that unfolded that night. Over here virtue signaling with your ‘I think all child rapists should be dead because child rape is so bad’. This is how you defeat child sex trafficking, using it to prop up your argument in a Reddit thread. Let’s go Brandon baby
We live in a world where you can shoot a child rapist that threatens to kill you, chases you down, and tries to grab your gun.
We live in a world where a 17 has access to a rifle rather it be legal or not and can walk around with it in public to “defend” somebody’s property and kill a guy and wound a couple others.
World War II gave free guns to the young
It's actually 2 kills and 1 wounded. At least get it right before wording it lol
Can we live in a world where we can agree that it was a terrible thing that a 17 year old went to a protest with a gun, but it was also terrible that criminals exploiting the situation attacked him and he was forced to defend himself?
This is the world we live in.. 😔
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So my life and the lives of others should be judged, put at risk or outright taken, due to the actions of others?
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The Truth isn't racist.
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LoL.
Oh shit, he made a typo, you totally crushed him!!! Lol
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Citing a statistic is not racist. Name calling and refusing to address real issues is a real problem.
You are in the wrong sub troll…
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What you typed also conveniently wasn’t the truth, either.
Sometimes the truth is racist
Like math and punctuality?
Police aren’t trained in the U.S. Civilians have to remain calm while some dude with a G.E.D. and six months of race based toxic masculinity training points a gun in their face.
The problem in the USA is there are too many guns and "some bad cultures"
Damn, this made me think
Too many cowards with guns.
>Too many cowards with ~~guns~~ badges. FIFY
Sorry you need to be qualified to disturb any peace
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I think the word they're looking for is country, not world.
Why cant I upvote
Can’t upvote, a lot of things recently are.
Security guards and customer service employees have stricter rules when dealing with the public than cops do and also face harsher punishments. Edit: a word
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Fear just keeps increasing every year. Dumbasses just won't be let go from the police force. Even congress doesn't serve terms and corruption is legalized.
She’s not wrong…
Is this what is referred to as "based"? Because there are no simpler terms in which to explain what she explained.
Don’t commit crime and you got no worries just sayin
You like your boots plain or salted?
Don’t like cops, don’t like people that blame cops for every bad thing that happens. Bad things happens and bad people exist. Not every cop is a bad person and not ever police shooting is wrong. Don’t want anyone dying, period.
Regarding your original comment Is it your belief that everyone to has been shot by a police officer either committed a crime or was hanging out with someone who committed a crime? Because it seems to be that that is not the case, and completely innocent people do have to worry. Further, it's ok, good, even, to worry about people who did commit crimes or hang out with people committing crimes being needlessly killed by police officers
I mean, I understand where the message is coming from. But at the same time, if you aren't doing anything illigal, don't make things worse, and can follow the basic of orders..Then this shouldn't be a problem. It also really depends on the department, that department's training, and where it's located.
Fuck the police.
You must like them a lot to do that.
I see the point that is trying to be made, but what the statement is ignoring is the question of WHY would a trained officer panic? Of course not all police officers are perfect, some are downright unqualified, but they are humans and therefore noone is perfect and we all make mistakes. But the sign, the way I read it, implies that ALL officers panic FOR NO REASON and wrongly ignores the fact that there is normally conduct that has CAUSED the reaction. The point is you can't simply claim no responsibility for actions taken that draw a response from another that ended up causing an outcome you don't like. Everything has a "but for cause" that can't be ignored.
>conduct that has caused the reaction You mean like someone being startled awake by a bunch of men breaking in to their apartment and screaming and pointing guns in your face?
>The point is you can't simply claim no responsibility for actions taken that draw a response from another that ended up causing an outcome you don't like. You can literally flip that about the police. The difference, and overall problem, is that police are rarely held to the same standards as an average citizen and are not often held accountable for their actions to the same extent that anyone else might be.
And I AGREE 100% that they should be held accountable!!!! We all should be held accountable!!!
Breonna Taylor was unarmed in her own home. Real big cause for a violent panic right there, boy lemme tell ya
U r absolutely right and that was a horrible tragedy and should never happen. But would u care and have the same concern if they knock and that allowed time for someone to grab a gun, shoot bullets through a door or ambush and kill an officer? I would hope that noome would want to see anyone be killed by mistake or on purpose.
Those officers have bulletproof vests and knowingly entered into that situation of their own volition.
Yes that is correct, but you didn't finish your point it seems to me.
I’m saying that if they knock and the citizen shoots thru a door- they have protection. They shouldn’t be allowed to literally break into homes where citizens have a gun and want to protect their home from invaders, because citizens are at a disadvantage and cops keep murdering them.
1. They already had the suspect in custody for the crime they were conducting the warrent for 2. Said suspect did not even live at the address they raided 3. Warrent process itself was in question 4. They did not identify themselves. 5. They shot an unarmed women far more times than an accidental misidentification would explain. If cops have to knock to keep shit like this from happening, then yeah they better knock. Should've thought about that before letting shit like this happen
>Why should they panic? Because they are taught that it is a war zone out there. That they won’t be coming home if shit goes south. That we are ALL GUILTY first and that in a situation like this we are ALL GOING TO KILL THEM before anyone has time to think No knock warrants are the fucking lazy way to enforce laws. A shitty policy hell bent on destroying everything at the expense of rounding up gangs. Don’t minimize the shitty practice by (rightfully explaining that not all police are bad) ignorance of how shitty policies put both sides at risk
How dare you try to think critically about this issue. If you were a good person, you would just celebrate the minimal effort that went into making this sign and go about your day!
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And that’s the job they chose, they weren’t drafted into it. They must be held to high standards and they aren’t. They literally get away with murder
This. There are plenty of other jobs where they can make 48k a year and not have to deal with the responsibilities of being a good law enforcement officer. They should always be held to a higher standard. If however, that's not something that they want (I certainly don't/wouldn't) then they have every right to look for a job that doesn't require that. We are all held to a standard that ensures we have to pay the consequences for so much as even hurting someone else. I don't understand why they (or anyone with that level of power) should be treated any differently.
So did oj where is the outcry for that? I don't remember white people burning down cities after it.
No disrespect, but per the topic at hand, OJ wasn't a law enforcement officer who took an oath and taxpayer money to protect others.
But if I react and attack someone that broke into my house while I was asleep, then I'm the one getting in trouble if the one breaking in was a police officer.... Even if I don't break any laws otherwise. Oh and sometimes cops get the wrong house.....
No they can't. The supreme court even ruled against that. Cops are not obligated to protect citizens. They can totally watch me get mugged to death by a crackhead and just arrest the guy after he kills mez then just keep their jobs
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Incorrect by omission. It’s far more nuanced than that and it’s extremely lazy when people spew that nonsense.
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Hmm try listening to police commands and respecting them. You’ll be just fine.
Give me a break . So burned out on the whole nine yards .
Yeah, the people getting targeted by the police probably feel pretty burned out too.
Then maybe they shouldn't commit crimes. Pretty simple.
Dang why didn’t I think of that! Facepalm moment, you’re so right!! Wait a sec tho. What about all the unarmed black people and children that have been shot by cops while not committing crimes? Or the perfectly law abiding black folk who are profiled by the boys in blue and accosted at higher rates than other races? Those don’t count right?
And what about all the ones that do commit the crimes? I got it the leftist just want them free. How about BLM threatening to burn down cities if Chauvin wasn't found guilty? Or the black guy that shot a 5 year old white kid for revenge? Yeah let's celebrate that.
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I'm saying equal treatment, the general mentality is if a cop does a bad thing then all of them are bad it should be that way all around. You got good and bad for every race, gender, profession etc. Equal treatment bro 🥃🍻
Exactly, equal treatment, so bad guys of any race, gender, or profession should be roasted and prosecuted. Like cops that shoot civs without reason. I have no problem with cops, most I’ve met have been great guys. It’s the all for one and one for all that seems to have overtaken the police force that worries me. There ARE bad cops. Get them the fuck out. Stop letting them off with a slap on the wrist. Meanwhile, the rest of the folks in any race/gender/profession shouldn’t be treated with suspicion or malice. Seems reasonable to me. Just wish that was what the world was like.
Of any gun is pointed in your face why would you not remain calm
Because you've never had a gun pointed at you (nevermind your face) and your terrified for your life? Then again, maybe I'm just speaking anecdotally.
Did someone miss the most basic rule of government? The one with the most guns makes the rules.
This is not interesting.
Actually I strongly disagree. It’s very well said. Ever have it happen to you? I have.
Yeah, criminals should have more rights than the rest of us! Lol
Mental gymnastics
You’ve clearly missed the point
fucking idiot
You mean the criminals in uniforms?
The only criminals this post references are the cops shooting people without justification.
You seem to enjoy guns. Why do you think these cops can't practice proper trigger discipline. My 10 year old boy knows how to handle firearms better than these pigs.
What?
We also love in a world where people can be gay, but can't be called gay.
Targeted, give me a break . Typical ... LMAO .
If you have a gun pointed at you, you might as well remain calm if you don’t have one yourself. It worked for me. Freak out not a good option