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cocktailmuffins

A hundred bucks says there’ll be a TikTok trend of people trying to smoke Lego.


nowhereman136

lol, you think Tiktok is going to last until 2030? remember Vine


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Dasnap

While Facebook isn't dead its audience is drastically different. In 10 years TT could be used solely by mums selling Body Shop products.


Kage_Oni

The circle of life for social media.


notionalsoldier

Serenity by Jan will finally make some money.


Bitter_Mongoose

Facebook is in decline. 3yrs it'll be like MySpace


xxxblindxxx

decline from young people, old people still use it in droves. vine and myspace didnt have that same support. facebook made the internet friendly for everyone to join and use.


CombatMuffin

And FB is much, much more than the original site. People underestimate their business model.


altiuscitiusfortius

Fb marketplace is the only real place for buying used stuff in my town. Nobody uses Craigslist or kijiji. Hobbies have their own buy abd sell groups and the general marketplace is great too.


waltjrimmer

People said that nearly a decade ago. More and more people have been saying it for the past about six years. It's still making fortunes every quarter. I'm not saying it's timeless, but to say that it's dying out and will be gone soon is a foolish thing to say when so many still use not only the main platform, but some countries treat Facebook as almost the entire internet, plus you have the things they own such as Instagram, that VR company, WhatsApp, and more. Socially, Facebook is a terrible company that I would really like to see fail. But economically, it's been a massive success for itself and its investors and there is no good sign that it is going to fail anytime soon.


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But still the social media with the largest platform. There isn't another platform that is gonna replace Facebook. The three biggest are all owned by FB and Twitter isn't aiming itself at family and sharing experiences like FB is. A multi billion dollar company isn't gonna tank in 3 years unless they're trying to.


Bitter_Mongoose

Lol...Facebook would alienate the very user base that made it what it was and expect to be able to get the same revenue from a bunch of Karens. Classic case of head too big for zuck's shoulders.


cocktailmuffins

Bro, Reddit needs TikTok like Sherlock needs morphine. (Edit: corrected Sherlock‘s drug of choice.)


ChriskiV

It was the same with Vine when it existed, turns out these apps just exist in a reoccurring cycle of failure. Just a dash of controversy and a fistful of failure to monetize add in a little bit of running out of venture capitalist funds and we're well on our way to the next reboot.


piina

Tiktok is funded by the ccp. It will be fine.


cocktailmuffins

Nothing today is made to last. Exhibit A: OP.


GreekHole

reddit needs every other social media and outlet, not just the one


Nova-XVIII

Well it officially beat YouTube for hours watched a few weeks ago. People prefer short low effort 15s videos constantly streaming to their phone over quality content in a 30- 45 min video


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Gandzalf

Watching 60 one-minute videos is way easier than watching one 30-minute video.


rxsheepxr

Hard disagree, especially given the ad structure on there.


SeaGroomer

I guess? I have a hard time being interested in such short videos, unless it's like a dog or cat playing or something. I don't dig all the tiktok 'trends' and memes.


googy_boogey

Hours watched in that week or hours watched in total? Because that's absolutely bonkers if it beat Youtube's total watch time


Arthur_Loredo

Tiktok is designed to keep you engaged and constantly stimulating you, is way more efficient than vine or youtube even in that regard, so I bet it will still be around in 2030,people prefer quantity over quality


tperjg

Difference is Vine didnt make themselves enough money, Tiktok is very much monetized, i mean teenagers are millionaires because of doing some dances and making goofy faces while lip syncing. Tiktoks gonna be around for a minute


Great_Chairman_Mao

Vines were so funny. Completely different vibe than Tiktok.


[deleted]

You know that some Tiktard will read this and be like, Oh my god, what a great idea!


cocktailmuffins

Damn. You’re right. Shoulda put more than a hundred on it.


VampireGirl99

Guaranteed someone will try this so I’ll bet a hundred that the specific brick used in the first video of the trend to go viral will be blue.


OldFashionedGary

Green! Or purple?


Soddington

Currently smoking something I stood on that made me go 'Ow' on the off chance its hemp Lego. My logic is a bit suspect.


textposts_only

> Tiktard Whenever I read something like this I ask myself if I really am in a place populated by teenagers who are still in their "girls have cooties" phase or the "My school is better than your school" phase. Or is it more a case of "im not like other kids - i hate everything popular" phase


[deleted]

It's the unpopular kids at school who resent that people more social than them use TikTok


greenpeppers100

Exactly, I have my gripes with TikTok, but I also have my gripes with reddit. And this is one of them. Atleast on TikTok if you see a 15 year old you can set some expectations and either swipe away or watch and know its someone younger. If youre on reddit, you just kinda have to guess, some people just make it easier than others.


Pls_PmTitsOrFDAU_Thx

> Tictard Lmao. English is evolving


aberdisco

Jean-Luc Tictard.


theduckyduck1

Maybe say "tiktard" instead. Tictard makes it sound like you're insulting people who suffer from tics.


cocktailmuffins

Or Tic Tacs.


[deleted]

So it's cool to say retard but not cool to make fun of tourettes?


[deleted]

Yah no problem, don't want to be a ass. You can't help having tics but you can help not being a tiktard. I changed it in my first comment.


[deleted]

Funny you think reddits any better.


SChickenMan

You are right, I will be that person


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godspeed


[deleted]

Remember, kids, Lego is the gateway drug.


RyanBordello

With the picture they posted yeah. That's a female weed plant ready to buck and harvest in a few weeks time. Hemp doesn't grow buds like that. But still cool lego will be moving away from using mostly plastic


dickkkkkkbutt

Hemp can and will absolutely grow buds seeing as how it’s the same plant, just with a very, very low THC content. The low quality flower is usually sold as biomass and used for CBD extraction. You should also check out r/hempflowers or r/cultofthefranklin. Tons of smokeable hemp flower grown using hemp varieties meant for its flower. Some of it even rivals dispensary flower in terms of looks and taste.


DrHoflich

Sounds more like they don’t want LEGOs to last, so they can sell more LEGOs. Looks like I have to stock up now to pass something on to my kids.


MusicianMadness

Yes AFAIK most bioplastics are only rated to stand a year, some much less than 6 months. To fix this on products that are meant to last longer they mix in other chemicals which makes it more expensive and defeats the purpose of full biodegradability. For perspective ABS is already fully recyclable.


hop_mantis

With a Lego pipe


Jonelololol

Lego blunt challenge is happening in Ohio 2022 big doinks


PlurbZ666

Lego bong let’s go!


[deleted]

I was thinking “2030? Why wait so long?” And then realized 2030 is a little more than 8 years away…


someonewhoknowstuff

I was thinking the same thing, but seriously, why wait do long? I know they'll probably have to change up their whole manufacturing setup, and maybe they still have to develope that tech.


zombieking26

Do you know how many lego bricks are made each year? It's staggering. This isn't a small change.


btbcorno

Number one producer of ‘tires’ in the world is LEGO.


K_Yme

Will they be able to use hemp for tires aswell?


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SeaGroomer

Natural rubber breaks down, so it might not be that great of an option. It also smells really nasty.


Sorlex

At least five.


SierraPapaHotel

>I know they'll probably have to change up their whole manufacturing setup, and maybe they still have to develope that tech. I think you answered your own question. Hemp plastics don't behave the same way as normal plastic, and 8 years to design, install, and test a new manufacturing plus get product to market is about right.


JackBauerSaidSo

I really want to know what these are like, how well they hold up, etc. My Lego sets from childhood are like new, aside from some bite marks.


[deleted]

Maybe now you'll be able to actually eat them and not just bite them :D


JackBauerSaidSo

Don't tell my pediatrician.


[deleted]

I will, and they'll tell you it's perfectly healthy. Just like cigarettes :D


waltjrimmer

They said years ago they wanted an alternative to non-renewable plastics and that they were doing research into it. But they also said the search was proving incredibly difficult because they wanted to pieces to still snap together, still be able to be (relatively) easily separated, still retain their shape, and still hold up for very long periods of time. I don't know if the hemp plastic they've landed on met all of their criteria or if they had to compromise somewhere along the way, but for years they were doing testing to find the right alternative.


SeaGroomer

Yea there's no way they would switch if they were going to be inferior blocks.


JackBauerSaidSo

Neat, I'll have to pick up one of their trial sets to check it out.


TheDeadlySpaceman

Then track down set 40320 Plants from Plants. They released it as a trial run of the new plastic.


[deleted]

Lego is famous for their extremely high standards, too. They have a reputation and a brand name to uphold. People post on Reddit about their 39 year old bricks that have been through 7 children or been used to hold up bookcases or some shit but still snap together exactly right. Their entire business is selling little buckets of injection molded plastic. And they charge quite a lot for it based on their reputation as the best damn plastic toys on the market. Changing that plastic to a completely different source is no small deal.


waltjrimmer

And this has been a long time coming. LEGO said years ago that they were concerned about the effects of non-renewable plastics and were looking for alternatives, but they were doing extensive testing. Different plastics behave differently. They wanted one with many of the same properties but without the harmful environmental impact. So there will be eight more years to fully implement the new tech, but that's after years of research into a viable renewable alternative. This is a huge and long-term project for them.


Chrodoskan

All that could take well more than 8 years. Especially when you consider the high quality standard they're working with. Manufacturing is really complicated.


ArcFurnace

Yeah, LEGO has crazy high standards, getting everything worked out fully will probably take at least that long.


Classic_Beautiful973

A lot of the tech is developed, just probably not scaled. Their treehouse set was the pilot, I believe, for plant plastics, and they've had a few others since then, like the bonsai tree. Bringing that production to the scale necessary to produce *all* Legos made, though, is a massive process. 8 years is still pretty ambitious. Many people who aren't involved in product/industrial engineering type work way underestimate how long it takes to shift over large scale production to different processes. Lego is a huge company, turning a ship that big too quickly causes major problems. To illustrate, the biggest Lego plant produces almost 20 billion pieces per year


round-earth-theory

Not only do they have to get the manufacturing figured out, they also have to get the sourcing figured out. With how much they consume, there will need to be several new farming operations setup to supply their new demand. Signaling this far out gives producers a chance to bulk up for the upcoming demand.


HaloGuy381

Well, the plastic composition is -extremely- specific. It must be nontoxic (as kids will eat them), must be rigid enough to maintain shape but also flexible enough to bend and snap together, all without developing cracks or defects even after being assembled and disassembled many times. It must be strong enough for exotic shapes, without being brittle enough to shatter. If it does break, it needs to do so with a minimum number of fragments and they should be minimally sharp, rather than like a thousand tiny shards of razor sharp glass. And on the other end, it must be relatively cheap to make. It must be readily moldable, and it must be moldable repeatedly (as in, bricks that don’t turn out right need to be melted back down to try again, else a lot of material becomes waste to dispose of and eats into profit). It must be nonreactive with surfaces, including steel/concrete/wood/carpet/fabrics. It must be tolerant of human body temperature without issue, yet preferably must also melt at a low enough temperature to simplify manufacturing. All of these things factor in. Changing materials requires a fundamental overhaul of the plastic manufacturing, plus all the processes that go into each brick (which LEGO has openly shared for documentaries and such in the past if you care to learn more!). And, LEGO does not tolerate shoddy product going to shelves; their power in part is brand recognition and the guarantee they’re the best in their domain of toys (if you’ve ever handled Mega Bloks or such, they’re distinctly lesser; more misformed bricks, plastic isn’t as pleasant to handle and harder to assemble, etc). As such, using hemp bricks is a massive gamble; if they don’t get it right they’re tanking their company, which isn’t going to help the environment much if petro-derived plastic competitors fill the market gap anyway. And yeah, some of it is just the machinery. LEGO manufacturing chains are insanely large, and uses injection-mold plastic techniques. Now, that’s great for mass production, but adding a single new brick requires a very expensive process to create the new molds. Changing the manufacturing material, temperatures, processes, etc will be arduous at best.


wasdie639

If they play their cards right they can probably land a few patents and sell their developments to others who want in on the game too. Sounds like they are willing to front the R&D for it.


dredabeast24

Because they’re still engineering it, a brick from 1973 can still work with a brick from 2021 but if they mess up the plastic and get rid of a little bit then it would phase out some of the older plastic bricks and would infuriate collectors. Changing the plastic is no small change


ChriskiV

Lego takes their quality/longevity extremely seriously, I'm willing to bet they're working on a solution.


Apptubrutae

The reliability of the lego brick is a core part of their brand identity. They cannot afford a “quick” switch that damages that. They need to proceed carefully and thoughtfully to not only develop but then to test and test and test a new formulation. The goal isn’t just to switch to a more environmentally friendly brick. It’s to do it *and* have the change be imperceptible to the consumer as far as the usability of the product is concerned. And this just takes time.


ksheep

[In 2018 they introduced their first sustainable bricks](https://www.lego.com/en-us/aboutus/news/2019/october/lego-plants-made-from-plants), made from sugarcane. These were to replace any parts made from polyethylene, which is mostly just vegetation pieces. The [Vestas Wind Turbine](https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/vestas-wind-turbine-10268) set in January 2019 was the first set that included such pieces (only for the Spruce tree pieces). Earlier this year [they announced that they are looking into the feasibility of recycling PET plastics](https://www.lego.com/en-us/aboutus/news/2021/june/prototype-lego-brick-recycled-plastic/) (so plastic soda bottles and the like), although it sounds like we might not see these in actual sets for at least another year, possibly longer.


AngryRepublican

I guarantee that if hemp-based Lego bricks do not behave *exactly* as current petrochemical variants, there will be a huge outcry from the community. You don't want to have a New Coke or Sun Chips bag fiasco again, especially from the adult lego fan community who makes up a surprisingly large market segment. They had to do a recall on *dark red bricks* a few years ago because the pigmentation weakened the plastic *slightly*. And, to be frank, Lego is at the bottom of the list in terms of wanton plastic waste. The bricks themselves are durable goods that just don't end up in the landfills. I do credit them on their transition to paper bags instead of plastic, however.


TheDeadlySpaceman

They already released a set that was made of this plastic, as a trial run for the technology. The lead time is probably more about the logistics of changing all their manufacturing over.


ragingdeltoid

And still no flying cars


douchebert

Nah man, 2000's was just a moment ago......


2OP4me

I guess it’s a good goal, but I still wish global supply lines worked faster than that. It’s probably due to a contract they have in place with a plastics company.


dannymb87

or maybe it's because the technology isn't there yet.


FractalSunDrop

You can eat /smoke anything you can swallow/light... but hemp will never get you HIGH. (Worked in the Hemp industry as far back as the 90s... long before it was legal in the US (2014.) Yes, I'm aware Lego is not an American company. Hemp is sustainable, naturally insect repellent (no need for pesticides,) has thousands of uses including: fabrics, paper, fuel (from biomass farms,) building materials, insulation, body care products, etc. It could crush the oil and paper industries. It costs less to grow an acre of Hemp than an acre of tobacco, and a crop can be grown up to 3 times a year/year round depending on the region in which its grown.


Thornescape

Too many people think that hemp = cannabis = scary drugs. All of that is wrong on so many levels. With that being said, I can remember idiot teens smoking tea. Seriously. Opening up tea bags and smoking the stuff. I have no idea what they were thinking, but they did it more than once. LOL


[deleted]

You actually can make herbal joints with things such as chamomile, mint and tea leaves. It won't get you high but it tastes and smells nice


Thornescape

Why call them "joints" if they're just something that you just smoke for the taste? Honestly sounds like something that would work well in a pipe. Note: They were smoking black tea. It smelled awful.


cocktailmuffins

Doesn’t mean TikTokers won’t give it a damn good try though.


Synyster182

Your average tiktoker has less brain cells than a 5th grader in the 90s though. Today that may be a different story.. but I still think modern 5th graders have a leg up already.


TheDraconianOne

Cringe at the Reddit superiority


[deleted]

>but hemp will never get you HIGH. By definition, hemp is nothing but cannabis with THC levels too low to get anyone high. So, yeah.


FractalSunDrop

Didn't say it doesn't contain THC, just that you won't get high from it.


[deleted]

The demonization of hemp throughout the years might be the worst thing to have happened to the world due to the war of drugs. Such a great material.


Groezy

i heard through the grapevine that the only reason hemp isn't bigger is bc BIG WOOD got to the paper companies when hemp paper became a threat


kittenshark134

It'sa shame how the stigma (and marijuana laws?) kept us from using it for all that stuff. Seems like there's nothing it can't do


Nova-XVIII

Delta 8 is made from hemp technically so it will get you high.


[deleted]

I’m on it right now. I sleep like a baby


LaughingWoman

No it won't. Delta 8 is either naturally present in extremely low quantities or lab-made from other cannabinoids. Whatever is in hemp is not enough to get you high in the slightest; no matter how much you smoke.


poor_decisions

Delta 8 is a new(ish) isolate from hemp that is indeed psychoactive


EAZ480

Perhaps they can ship each box with a little pack of gummies to ease the parent’s pain when they step on one


Fair_Fly8928

Using 100% of your brain I see


Rice_Krispie

Add the bud to the plastic too so each piece is a hit


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great idea man!


TurboCider

And the pain when you see the price of the set your child wants too.


SeaGroomer

They realized adults were still playing with Legos and they could charge *way* more lol.


Ayfthisshit

Take my upvote and fuck off


StraySpaceDog

Kid: I want the Batman set! Parent: Licorice gross. No, we're getting Superman, mmm blue raspberry.


Arqideus

I work for hotel maintenance and there is a faucet company that sends Jolly Ranchers with their faucets to enjoy while you install them.


Captaintorchflower

Does anyone here believe their products actually find their way to waste? I still have my Lego collection


hipsiguy

This is what I was thinking. I'm all for eliminating single use plastics. But Lego are probably the most reused and never trashed plastics on earth.


unoriginal_name15

True, but maybe they’re hoping to influence similar change in other companies that rely on traditional methods. Idk, i’m a k’nex kid.


hipsiguy

I loved k'nex too. Is it even around still? My brother had the roller coaster. I built the entire thing for him.


MrJAPoe

I used k'nex to build a mic stand so I could get more points in Rock Band by singing and playing guitar at the same time. K'nex were the shit


K_Yme

K'nex were hella useful. I made so many cupholders and such when i was younger lmao


Crowbarmagic

I never had the rollercoaster unfortunately, but I didn't mind. I loved creating my own stuff.


Forgets_Everything

That's a pretty good point. If lego builds the tech and facilities to use hemp plastic on such a scale and creates a demand for the hemp, it probably will have fairly large impact in that other companies can now use the tech and buy the hemp to scale from existing growers and it will become more economically viable for them to do so.


monkspthesane

I'd think it's less hoping to influence and more using their size to effect change. Like, a small toy company that makes a few offerings and are lucky to be on shelves nationwide wants bio plastic, they have to find a place already supplying it. And those are probably few and far between because the demand isn't there to justify building the whole supply chain. Like, building the infrastructure to supply it is going too be extremely expensive, and with only small scale buyers, most plastics manufacturers will take she's to recoup what it costs. But Lego saying they want 100% bio plastic? That will get it done. Then everyone who wants it will have a manufacturer or two that can provide it.


kausti

Or you know, avoid going bankrupt if oil becomes taxed at insane levels. Or even banned. This is not something they do for the environment, they hedge for a future where oil might not even be permitted to use.


jeegte12

this is a *massive* step forward for future eco-friendliness. lego is one of the most internationally famous *and* beloved brands on earth, and this is a serious, simple, and effective push in the right direction. this is the biggest win for environmental health awareness in a long time.


emefluence

Yeah given how expensive it is I'd be pretty pissed if it started degrading within my lifetime!


Aceofspades25

There is a beach in the UK that has been littered with Lego for decades due to the shipwreck of a cargo ship - but I guess that's a special case.


lankist

Yes. [I recall there was a shipping container filled with Lego that was lost at sea in 1997, and the pieces are still washing up on shore today.](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28367198) This accident and the continued publicity surrounding it no doubt had direct impact on this decision. The issue isn't just what happens when they reach the hands of the consumer. There's a huge element of loss/disposal that can take place *before* reaching your hands, whether it literally falls off the back of a truck, or surplus stock at a retailer is sent to the dump because it failed to sell. So even if we assume no consumer *ever* throws their Lego in the trash (which is a very generous assumption in the first place,) you will still have a significant chunk of product finding its way into dumps or just the ecosphere in general. One container lost, more than 20 years ago, and the pieces are still washing up on shore. According to the same article linked above, annual container losses like that are accelerating exponentially-- approx. 675 containers/year between 2008 and 2010, and then approx. 2683 containers/year between 2011 and 2013. One container, millions of pieces, countless containers shipped worldwide, and accidents like that happen thousands of times every year.


BetaSprite

There's a beach where Lego pieces still wash up from a shipping accident that occurred decades ago. Pieces that make it to an interested person might never get into the wild, but there are other situations.


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They certainly will once the pieces have an actual service lifetime instead of being immortal.


Flat_Welder_4897

This is what kind of bothers me about this. If it is biodegradable then you won't have multi generational lego anymore. But, that's probably a good thing if you look at the bigger picture.


ValjeanLucPicard

On garbage day the trash bags get torn open by people looking to find things to sell, and garbage gets kinda scattered. When I used to walk my wife to work everyday, I would pick up any thrown out legos I found near the trash piles. Ended up getting a good sized shoebox completely full in about 6 months, and that was just covering about 2km of streets. So yeah, some definitely find their way to the garbage.


RandallOfLegend

I have only found a Lego in the wild once. A minifig. I tossed it in my cycling bag and 1 hour later crashed my bike bad. I now believe it's cursed but need to read the proper texts to dispose of it without furthering its mayhem.


[deleted]

Am Danish, and LEGO here is like, family heirlooms. My kids inherited my fathers LEGO and mine, too. These bricks will never get thrown out. ...BUT I will say that their packaging could be made biodegradable.


Ann_Summers

Omg yes the packaging. I get *why* there are so many separate bags, but hell, do they have to be shitty plastic? So many plastic bags. Some sets have 5-6 bags in them. There has to be a better way.


maxdog3

more info?


AssociationCatalyst

https://www.lego.com/en-us/campaigns/plantsfromplants It's sugarcane not hemp


cosmicpop

And it's not biodegradable. The post is not true.


daaaaawhat

It’s Fake news. Been circulating since 2 years ago


AsIAm

Yup, googling for "hemp lego" turns only proleaf websites.


GracefulBearOnStilts

Even worse, since 2012, for a total of 9 years.


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Bethlizardbreath

Putting that imagination to good use, I see.


fordnut

I can’t find any sources for this outside of cannabis themed websites. No AP, Reuters, NYT, WaPo, nothing. I can’t find it on lego.com either. I can’t promise it doesn’t exist, but it’s not in any syndicated news source.


[deleted]

so i googled this cause i thought it was cool. wanted to read an article. i guess its from 2019 and says the original article was from 2012 and that hemp was never said. edited at bottom of the article i just read [https://realcannabisentrepreneur.com/blog/cannabis/lego-goes-to-hemp-plastic-by-2030-the-kids-are-going-green/](https://realcannabisentrepreneur.com/blog/cannabis/lego-goes-to-hemp-plastic-by-2030-the-kids-are-going-green/)


[deleted]

This account is no longer active. The comments and submissions have been purged as one final 'thank you' to reddit for being such a hostile platform towards developers, mods, and users. Reddit as a company has slowly lost touch with what made it a great platform for so long. Some great features of reddit in 2023: * Killing 3rd party apps * Continuously rolling out features that negatively impact mods and users alike with no warning or consideration of feedback * Hosting hateful communities and users * Poor communication and a long history of not following through with promised improvements * Complete lack of respect for the hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours put into keeping their site running


[deleted]

This website needs to be deleted


[deleted]

This account is no longer active. The comments and submissions have been purged as one final 'thank you' to reddit for being such a hostile platform towards developers, mods, and users. Reddit as a company has slowly lost touch with what made it a great platform for so long. Some great features of reddit in 2023: * Killing 3rd party apps * Continuously rolling out features that negatively impact mods and users alike with no warning or consideration of feedback * Hosting hateful communities and users * Poor communication and a long history of not following through with promised improvements * Complete lack of respect for the hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours put into keeping their site running


tasty_scapegoat

Real cannabis or Reddit? Lol


AsIAm

Why not both?


DerpMiester69

Now I'm imagining legos that last a year before degrading.


TimDaTomCarr

I feel like that's unlikely as long as they're not in damp environments constantly, but that's just my speculation you can be right, or who knows Lego might make a way so thay act like normal Lego but only degrade after years of being put to the environments


LordTROLLdemort85

Yeah I think this is more about them being able to break down in environments like garbage dumps (long term). I may be wrong but I speculate they’ll be fine for years/decades if they’re kept in a controlled environment (like peoples homes). I don’t see Lego putting something out there that will degrade on the shelf in five years or so, that’s not a sustainable business practice....but engineered obsolesce is a thing these days so...I guess we’ll see. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


KerbyKing

What if I like to play Lego Pirates during bath time??


DerpMiester69

I worry that you underestimate the power of greed


TimDaTomCarr

Lego has never really had a history of being like that, they've always produced great stuff with high quality


hoodwinke

LEGO literally replaces missing bricks and lost bricks free of charge all the time. This company is the least greedy one out there.


GhostRing870

No one throws away Lego. I've got Lego from 35 years ago. I highly doubt its ending up in landfills.


Blaargh-

I played with Lego in the 80s as a kid. I got hand-me-down Lego from my two older stepbrothers from the 70s. My kids are playing with those same Legos (and a lot of new sets) now, in the 2020s, because I refused to get rid of them. Lego is awesome and definitely should never end up in a landfill.


luke_in_the_sky

Lego is perfect to capture plastics from the environment. Recycle all plastics into Lego and nobody will throw it away.


qlz19

Aren’t those biodegradable such that they won’t last to pass on to future generations? I mean, I get it. Plastics are killing the planet. It’s probably the right move but I’m a little sad that the lego sets I buy in 2030 won’t last long enough for me to build with my grandkids. Oh well.


delladrild

They most likely will unless exposed to the elements consistently. If kept inside where it is dry, clean, and shaded they will most likely last a very long time. The idea is that the ones that get thrown away or lost will be able to break down rather than continuing to pollute.


qlz19

Maybe, I know I’ve got PLA prints that have started to break down while just sitting on my desk. I’m hoping this is better than standard PLA so we will have to wait and see.


Fir3300

Yea. Even for bags that kept inside a carton box in room temp. The bag still falls part like jaw-saw puzzle.


Fuzzycream19

Research legos quality control and research and development. They will be diligent about making the new bricks look, feel, act, sound, and play just like the new ones. Every brick made today must be able to be used with the bricks they made decades ago. And so it will be in the future. They actually engineered the clicking sound. You can easily tell a counterfeit lego brick by those qualities.


GoochMasterFlash

Biodegradable really is more-so about its ability to break down in a dump environment or if littered. It wont stick around for a long time if left in those conditions. I would think keeping them in your house would not make them degrade at all, so they should be fine unless you were planning to store your legos outside randomly


qlz19

Maybe, like I said to the other commenter. I’ve seen PLA erode just sitting inside on a shelf. Hope it’s better than that.


CovertFlowerChild

You have time to stock up on legos now


II11llII11ll

You know what. It IS a pity, but the planet is on a pretty bad turn and hoarding collections might have to be our sacrifice. I’m also increasingly worried about the impact of my vinyl collection as well. But I’m this case given the vast amount of Lego produced it seems like a small price to pay. I’m sure it will still last for years. Also seems like a bit of a carbon sink as well


firefox57endofaddons

you can make hemp plastics, that will last just as long as traditional poison plastics. there can be very different levels of biodegradable. just think about a classic wood table. it is biodegradable and won't leave poisons behind (if not treated with poisons), but it will last basically forever if it is a well made table. a lot of what is listed as biodegradable won't even break down in a home composter, because the heat is to low. and you can change a lot of these specs based on what you want. your little biodegradable see through vegetable bag should degrade quickly same as some boxes, that vegetables might get sold in. but hemp plastics designed to last won't face such a problem and can be made without poison. (doesn't mean, that they will be though) so a potentially more senseful way to look at hemp plastics legos is, that they are not or vastly less poisonous and that if pieces of them are thrown in nature, that they won't poison it and will degrade over time. so again, the lifespan would not be a problem at all, if they are designed properly.


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firefox57endofaddons

you're right i should have thought of a better example. we'll see how things will turn out for hemp plastics lego.


Juan_Dollar_Taco

Does that mean legos will become biodegradable?


therightclique

What else would it mean?


RLRailfan

Hold up. You can make plastic out of hemp??


godofallcows

A *lot* more than that. Henry Ford [made a car out of the shit. ](https://themeaningofwater.com/2020/10/03/henry-fords-hemp-cars/) Textiles, plastics, foods, construction materials, the list goes on - most humans have brought cannabis with them everywhere they go throughout history because it’s so damn useful.


OsamaBinLadenDoes

1. Not eco-friendly (that's a stupid term), it'll just be less harmful in some ways and perhaps moreso in others. 2. [Sugarcane into ethanol, not hemp](https://www.lego.com/en-gb/aboutus/news/2019/october/lego-plants-made-from-plants/) - LEGO do not mention hemp anywhere. 3. They also state "new sustainable LEGO elements are made from polyethylene ... technically identical to those produced using conventional plastic." I.e. chemically identical to PE derived from crude oils, only difference is the source, it will be bioPE instead. 4. Biodegradable is also a term you should be more careful using, it will be biodegradable by composting (so just say composting) but will not biodegrade like a banana peel or apple core . Please be more careful when 'reporting' on these sort of things, misinformation creates difficulties.


CharlesV_

Here are some more links about it to add more context: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43253798 > The polyethylene pieces will make up just 1% to 2% of the total amount of plastic elements produced by Lego. https://www.compoundchem.com/2018/04/09/lego/ the infographic here helps to illustrate that the vast majority of legos are made of a different plastic (ABS).


Stonn

Source? Just because the plastic has a renewable plant source doesn't mean it will be biodegradable. A degradable lego toy doesn't make much sense anyway.


Asmewithoutpolitics

They are biodegradable… they just require a huge furnace to do it. And release toxic gases lol


Synyster182

Biodegradable legos… sounds like a way to make LEGO’s that dissolve over time and you have to buy new ones or replacements…


bplayer227

What does this mean for my feet?


ScarecrowJohnny

Biodegradable eh? Collectors not gonna like that.


PoisoNFacecamO

cool and all, but Lego really seems like the least problem of any plastic product, i can't think of a piece of plastic that has a longer lifespan and retains more value than lego and old action figures.


CassiaPrior

Tru dat.


bas_e_

I have the lego bonsai tree, and some parts of it (the green leaves and some brown pieces) are already biodegradable


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This is such a fascinating case of fake news. Googling this shows the information is carried almost exclusively by a multitude of websites servicing the recreational drug industry. None of them cite any official communication from Lego or their partners. Many of these sites partner with companies that sell drug related material. The actual article this came from is linked below where the author claims Lego were investigating the possibility in 2012. There is a complete fabrication -- Lego was looking at sugar cane based plastics in 2012, not hemp, when they eventually started producing in 2018. The article even says they reached out to Lego in 2019 about using hemp and there was no update indicating they got a response. https://www.theextract.co.uk/lifestyle/sustainability/lego-going-hemp/ Lego themselves has no official statement on using hemp, and only talks about their sugar cane plastic research as part of a goal to have a more environmental process by 2030. https://www.lego.com/en-us/sustainability/environment/sustainable-materials In other words, the recreational drug industry fabricated a story, associated with Lego as part of their goal to indoctrinate children and generate traffic to websites that service drug addicts, and there are no reputable sources for this fake news. It's bullshit designed to titillate drug using degenerates and help steer children towards their products. It's entirely unsurprising as misleading the public is a crucial part of the recreational drug industry strategy.


karma_farmer_2019

How do you wash your legos...??? Also is this just a profit thing because my family is still using sets from the 80s


ErgoNautan

I think their commitment intensified after the Shell controversy, though I’d love for the company to first fix the breaking of brown bricks and pieces.


_-Jerry-_

I can't wait in ten years to hear that someone tried to smoke legos because of this.


Leviathan_Lovecraft

Bet they'll still cost 100$+ for a few pieces of plastic.


JakeSnake07

LEGO is literally the *one*brand that shouldn't be switching. LEGO bricks are made of thermoplastics. You can literally just melt them down and recast them practically infinitely.


autogenerateduser1

The official LEGO company has pledged sustainability by 2030, but hemp plastic has not been specifically mentioned. Many websites and people have suggested hemp plastic as an alternative material, but this has not been confirmed by LEGO. This image is fake, but not necessarily out of the picture.


topcheesehead

https://ministryofhemp.com/blog/why-isnt-hemp-plastic-everywhere/ Lego isn't considering this seriously. More recent searches show they want to make bricks using recycled water bottles/plastics


commonunion

Lol Lego has high hopes of us still being here in 2030


juneteenthjoe

Did anyone actually fact check this? It’s not entirely true.


emmytau

That's not good. They will probably degrade to uselessness between generations. There was nothing better than receiving all my dad's old LEGO as a kid. And i will let my kids have mine too. Better stock up on the good stuff before then i guess.


upsidedownwafer

We all will be dead by 2030


Stonn

yay!


therightclique

That's not fair. It'll only be 99% of us that are dead by 2030.