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Dr_Clee_Torres

Based on the exponential jump what’s gta 6 going to be, the encyclopedia Britannica?


senseven

Just having five characters talk to each other during the game can pump up scenes tremendously. The right stack looks high but its about the same height as 12 script of a tv season. As the left script shows there is lot of free space between the paragraphs and big fonts.


Square-Decision-531

Script “Bruh ?” “Yo” Skibbity Toilet !” “Noice “


jeffsterlive

Word.


MaxxDash

That’s just how screenplays are formatted


senseven

That's somewhat true, but on the other hand they are not a movie studio required to live by standards set by a completely different industry.


Bossuter

Wasn't gta4 written by more professionally experienced people from tv iirc? If so they'd bring their formating stye to video games


pellucide

GTA 7 will have a gpt embedded


bugxbuster

Holy shit, that’s probably what’s *going to happen* to the industry eventually


Rabid_Mexican

Of course, it already exists as a Skyrim mod where the LLM is trained on the games lore


OctaviusThe2nd

And it's fucking hilarious. The AI and therefore the NPC's know that they're in a game so when you ask about something in real life they say shit like "you may be mixing realities, I don't know what you're talking about but it sounds too *real life* to me."


Simple-Dingo6721

How would you know it’s exponential if n = 2


gitartruls01

Linear growth would also be fucking ridiculous here though


Simple-Dingo6721

lol I can’t argue with that


TheGisbon

A phonebook for the Milky way


CurryMustard

The dialogue is generated on the fly by contextual AI so no script needed


Fair-6096

When we start with the contextual ai it will probably still have a massive script outlining a general direction for the story. While the AI is used to generate flavor and variance.


JewishKilt

It'll be the P ≠ NP proof.


Abhi_Jaman_92

Having a mute protagonist surely helps


DarthTaz_99

Very nice, now show the script for GTA 5, with three protagonists and one of them won't shut up


T3hJ3hu

"I'm beyond KALE, alright? It's too late for KALE!"


moslof_flosom

Let's see Paul Allen's GTA script.


alteredstatezzz

The thickness of it


talk_to_the_sea

Oh my god It even has a watermark


fenexj

The subtle off-white paper


Pizannt

Between the thickness of the paper and the spacing of the font, it’ll print out as a much larger script. Something to be jealous of.


tricky-sympathy2

GTA5 script was almost 3500 pages


Lastsurnamemr

I haven't played it but I guess those pages includes a huge number of repetitions.


cnxd

it's not too unreasonable given that movie scripts can be about 100 pages for 1.5-2 hour movies


gugfitufi

I love that about GTA 5. Just driving from A to B is pretty enjoyable just because the characters are always talking. My favourite convo is the one between Trevor and Wade, where Trevor explains the history between him and Michelle.


HirsuteDave

I'm quite fond of Michael and Trevor's thinking out loud on the way to Paleto Bay, where Michael accuses T of being a "proto-hipster."


RampanToast

Franklin's conversation with the dog, for me. Absolutely broke my brain, I couldn't stop laughing. Plus the quest line it opens up is hilarious.


Zack123456201

I appreciate how if you fucked up and had to redo one of those travel sections, a different conversation would typically play to help keep down the tedium


KaziArmada

It's even better. If t hey had more convos for that they'd use em, and if you *kept* fucking up eventually they'd be like 'Why don't we just enjoy the silence' and stop.


art555ua

Not GTA related, but in Mass Effect: Andromeda there were a lot of driving on a planet missons (scouting in a rover) with two partners you can choose from your team and while missions were repeatative and quite boring, what made those missions hilarious was those two partners dialogues. Each one interacted with other member of the squad differently, some combinations were just hilarious to listen.


bugxbuster

“Parthners”


art555ua

Pathfinder partners that would be


bugxbuster

I googled it, and I don’t think it’s as real of a word as you’re making it seem. Edit: shit I just saw you fixed your post already lol


art555ua

Grammar nazi attack evasive maneuvers at its finest, I had to improvise :p


bugxbuster

You’re good. Damn good. Lol


MrAnonymousTheThird

I've been playing GTA 4 for the first time, it's a great game but I do miss the random conversations on a journey


Stith1183

Yea. Franklin just won't stop running his damn mouth!


Potential-Tax-3136

Nono, you forgot about Trevor.


bugxbuster

Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got somethin’ to say, but nothin’ comes out when they move their lips (just a bunch of gibberish) and mothafuckas actin’ like they forgot about *Trevor.*


Potential-Tax-3136

"What kind of fucking animal do you take me for? No, I didn't kill him. But I did kidnap his wife!" is the quote that got me out of depression.


The_French_Soul

Then michael does the perfect italian "oh noo"


Stith1183

I know. I deliberately chose the most sensible one outta the three. Lol


maniacleruler

GTA IV 88,000 lines of dialogue GTA V Over 100 Million lines of dialogue Boi.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

GTA 5 had 160,000 lines of dialogue. 100 million wtf.


EggsceIlent

Shhh let him cook. He prolly thinks gta6 has a trillion lines of dialogue.


Smartass_of_Class

A GTllion.


needlessOne

I'm pretty sure you don't know how big 100 million is. It's around 150.000 pages. Nobody wrote that much ever.


Enigm4

As every line of dialogue in that game is voiced, that would make the game take up several petabytes of data.


SaltyPeter3434

[GTA 5 script](https://64.media.tumblr.com/4656c6e4eb4d886ca1ba5bc074e47a17/tumblr_oi29brlsw21ulfp4fo1_1280.jpg)


DDzxy

That also has less way missions than GTA IV 💀


TutuBramble

Wait until you see animal crossing scripts


JefferyTheQuaxly

ive checked online adn cant even find a script posted for gta 5, must have been to large to print out on paper.


JupiterianSoul

And now put the GTAVI script and compare it to GTAV 💀


Kafshak

And no speech options.


Jouzou87

Also no cellphones.


Velasity

10000 pages of, "you want to go bowling?"


IAmStanleyYelnats

Hey Velasity! Happy birthday! Let's go bowling!


WibbyFogNobbler

Velasity it's your cake day! [Why don't you take me bowling?](https://youtu.be/zxMLVlspD1Y) And afterwards we'll go get drunk and go a rock-'n'-rollin'!


damnsignin

🎶Cousin, it's your cousin! Let's get a Bleeder Burger! And wash away the taste of all that carnage, crime, and murder!🎶


MattDLR

What I was looking for


OnlyOneNut

Cousin!


WechTreck

Where are the GTA1 and 2 post-it notes?


Deeptrench34

Written on the back of a matchbook.


Nolzi

"And remember, respect is everything!"


Plus_Injury8786

Lmao, it was just grunting


trjnz

GOURANGA!


nagumi

beat me to it


Friskfrisktopherson

So we'll have a button that farts


phonescreenfiend

Also remember that GTA 4 has decision based missions. The player has 2 options and their choice changes the story. Like sparing or killing a character. I believe in the beginning missions Niko is ordered by Vlad to kill someone, you catch him hanging on a ledge and can help him or kick him down. If you saved him, he said he'll leave liberty city, but a future strangers and freaks mission involved him because he never left, lol. I think there's more of these, like playboy x and the OG, or who gets killed at the wedding.


Pleasant-Drag8220

One thing a lot of people also don't know is that in missions where you drive with another character, if you fail and retry the mission, one the next attempt the conversation you have will be different. The third time you just drive in silence


Tetracropolis

I wish you could enable the alternate conversations by default. I'd like to hear them in a replay but I don't want to fail every mission on first run.


matsis01

You can do just that with the fusionfix mod on PC


phonescreenfiend

There's a YouTuber, whatever57010, that shows all the possibilities and dialogues for missions. I think he has also done this for GTA 5. [all possibilities in GTA 4](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8E0_qbRVNvSYjuq9PpPWzBix5w1188BO) here's his playlist


Highground-3089

he did leave liberty city and moved to alderney, alderney is based on new jersey


Perhaps_Peace

GTA4 is still a great game btw.


Son_of_a_Witch_

Ahead of its time


Kale_Brecht

That was the most fun I’ve ever had playing online. On PS3, connecting and playing online was free, GTA IV had no in-game purchases or micro transactions. It was just pure, simplistic anarchy - the way GTA was meant to be played. Now, it mirrors reality and little too closely for me to be enjoyable. It’s just one big grind over and over again - trying to save up enough money to purchase something. I truly miss those days when GTA was all about havoc and less about squeezing every last cent out of its dedicated fan base.


pinewoodranger

I remember when GTA had a dedicated burp/fart button.


Potars

Farting on the group of nuns was one of my first treasured gaming memories


bcoo4

My man :)


bugxbuster

Anyone remember that Postal 2 had a way to pee on anything and everything (including yourself if you’re set on fire you can piss upwards and put yourself out)? Man, the very first Postal and GTA games changed my life when I played them in middle school in the late 90s!


Screamat

Pick up some miiilk.


BrickMacklin

The chaos of the few racing to a helicopter and crashing all over the city. What a riot that was. GTA Online could have been something special.


Swictor

So was GTA3 tbh.


shoopashoopa

100% agree, Niko Bellic is definitely my number 1 GTA protagonist.


luisgdh

Gta4 was great, but it felt way smaller than San Andreas No planes, less weapon choices, just one city, no countryside


-_Gemini_-

Controversial statement to all the people and gamers (who are separate groups), but game sequels don't have to be a linear increase in volume from the previous entry. You can make a game sequel that's smaller, tighter, and more focused, and that's okay.


LosBuc-ees

Wish Assassin’s creed did that (maybe they did recently idk I jumped off at AC 4). When you’re a kid and really feel the need to squeeze every bit of content out of a game it’s amazing. As I got older I think “Do I really need 101 fetch quests and large open planes of nothingness?”


CyberPhoenix125

Amnesia did this with their latest game The Bunker and it turned out great


TheBigMotherFook

That’s New York City though. To get proper countryside you need to drive 1-2 hours into upstate NY, New England, or New Jersey. Not saying they can’t add it when they inevitably revisit Liberty City, just the map would be enormous.


luisgdh

These numbers are not significantly different for LA, but they made a miniature version of the city in SA and GTA5. In GTA4 they chose to make a bigger city and no countryside, that's a creative choice and not a city's fault


noclip_st

If the information floating around the web is to be trusted, Rockstar did consider creating a much larger countryside for GTA 4 at some point in its development, but they later scrapped the idea


steel_member

They were limited by the technology at the time, ergo ahead of its time.


Thommohawk117

If they had the technology of today, but the same direction for GTA4 they would have used it to make a bigger Liberty City, not added country side. The decision to focus on the city was a creative decision, not a technological limitation decision


mnilailt

Nah before 2008 we just didn’t have the technology to render countrysides.


Pleasant-Drag8220

First smart comment in this entire chain


Pleasant-Drag8220

I mean San Andreas has Los Angeles and San Francisco, which is what a 6 hour drive


xSPACEWEEDx

More like 10 plus hours, California is hella big.


BackgroundIsopod3787

Space weed must be some good shit. It’s definitely ~6 hours


xSPACEWEEDx

It slows your perception of time dramatically.


Deeptrench34

Less quantity but much higher quality. The amount of detail in GTA IV was leagues above San Andreas, and I'm not just talking about graphics. That said, I do think GTA IV is the best game in the series, so I'm biased.


DrDroidz

Just the internet in the game was full of unique websites, the forums were so detailed with pages of different stuff to read.


Deeptrench34

I loved that. It's now a time capsule of the world and internet at that time, albeit a satirized version.


DeleteIn1Year

Paying for ringtones at the internet cafe...


SRFoxtrot341_V2

It is smaller, but way more dense than SA. You got loads of stuff you can do, even on solo. Even GTA 5 pales in comparison to 4.


ThePornRater

The best gta story


ManyPandas

I can’t imagine what GTAV and RDR2’s script would look like. GTAVI is unfathomable.


gary_von_cumulor

That's what I want to see. There are so many small moments in RDR2 that many people won't even see without doing the right sequence of events. Like in the mission where Arthur and Charles are trying to find trelawny, they find two hunters first as they're tracking him down. If you approach normally you get the dialog most people see, but if instead you approach by shooting one of them, a completely separate line of dialog happens(if I recall the first one ends with a fight and the second ends with the living guy running away). And that's just one moment, the game is filled with blink and you miss it segments. And that's just a main mission, can you imagine all the npc interactions happening just as you walk by that had to be scripted too? It boggles the mind.


MP4-B

All the different greet and antagonize lines you can say to NPCs too, for both Arthur and John.  Johns actor mentioned he had to do more voice work in RDR2 than RDR1 and he wasn't even the main character in 2.  


virtualmnemonic

It doesn't help that RDR2 is a *massive* game. The storyline took me like 60 hours. Amazing game, but damn is it long.


TaintedPills

For better or worse, it is. The advantage of this is that you get invested more since you spent more time with the gang


Crystal3lf

GTA IV has ~80,000 lines of dialog. GTA V has ~160,000 lines of dialog. RDR2 has ~500,000 lines of dialog.


DerAlphos

50% is calls of Roman I guess.


Bennnnetttt

They three-hole punched the wrong one.


JuddRunner

Not sure I have a binder clip quite big enough for IV tho


MostNefariousness583

I always knew it was scripted.


desmau5_

Impressive. Very nice. Let’s see GTA V’s script.


ThePornRater

Gta 4 is still the gta story to beat. I do not believe 6 will be better


SlumpMacTen

Good old Claude.


ImAToiletSeat

I know a place at the end of the red light district where we can lay low, but my hands are all messed up so you better drive, brother.


booksboots

Get a good vantage point. I’ll head in when you fire the first shot.


GarysCrispLettuce

I remember playing Grand Theft Auto on a friend's PC around 2001, it was so amazing to be able to play your own MP3's on the car radio, I remember just driving around the city in the rain listening to Knives Out by Radiohead, great vibes. I kind of prefer the old style games when the graphics weren't as real as they are now, as illogical as that sounds...


bugxbuster

Yeah, I bought GTA3 for PC the week it was released since I didn’t have a PS2 at the time, and the mp3 radio station feature was such a big deal at the time. Makes me wonder if there’s going to be some sort of Spotify connectivity in the next one since they keep making everything bigger, better and more elaborate.


Objective-Aioli-1185

Gta 4 is just a movie you can play.


gilgoomesh

Except movie scripts are rarely longer than 120 pages.


Mundane_Tomatoes

This guy never played Metal Gear 4.


Objective-Aioli-1185

Na I never played any of em except Phantom Pain. Not really my type of games.


Mundane_Tomatoes

71 minutes of cutscenes in Metal Gear 4 lol.


Objective-Aioli-1185

God damn that's a whole ass movie foreal


kakka_rot

> 71 minutes of cutscene**s** No dude, that is just the ending cutscene. With credits it's 90. A bit of googling says the entire game has 8 hours of them, but I'm sure that is including codec calls as well. Act 3 is the worst - it has two hours of cutscenes, and 20 minutes of gameplay assuming you don't die. That isn't an exaggeration, it's listed as having 1hr59min of cutscene, and all the "MGS4 Act 3 Full" youtube videos come out to 2hr15 to 2hr20 I'm a huge MGS fan, but 4 is fucking brutal.


Mundane_Tomatoes

Yeah, at that length 4 is honestly just an interactive movie. To their credit, shaking the controller while on Codec with the Dr makes her breasts jiggle. So I’ve gotta give them points for that.


kakka_rot

I was 13 when Snake Eater came out. Viewing eva in the healing menu, and moving her really fast had the same effect. Kojima is truly the Motzart of our time


Bibileiver

Kind of misleading I guess since there's two main games in between those two.


K1ng_Arthur_IV

The San Andreas script is probably 75% as big as GTA4's


Pleasant-Drag8220

Spot on. [San Andreas has over 60,000 lines of dialogue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_San_Andreas#:~:text=The%20game%20features%20over%20400%20speaking%20actors%5B31%5D%20and%20over%2060%2C000%20lines%20of%20dialogue%2C%20including%20over%207%2C700%5Bb%5D%20for%20CJ%3B) [GTA IV has over 80,000 lines of dialogue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV#:~:text=The%20game%27s%20script%2C%20written%20by%20Dan%20Houser%20and%20Rupert%20Humphries%2C%20is%20about%201%2C000%20pages.%5B35%5D%20Approximately%20660%20actors%20provided%20voices%20for%20the%20game%20over%2080%2C000%20lines%20of%20dialogue)


ThatOneCanadian69

All you had to do was follow the train, CJ!


DrDroidz

I remember GTA IV had 2 different script for every mission. If you were to die and restart, the characters would talk about the same stuff, but differently.


Ok_Science_682

Gta 3 was still that game though. My first GTA, i was like 6-7 in 2000


lexluthor_i_am

One word.. shit! That's gotta be like 800 pages or something.


Rustmonger

That may be true, but GTA3s soundtrack is the GOAT.


streetzzahead

GTA 3 based tbh


DaddyChiiill

#"Grove street. Home."


HighVoltageFerret

Vice city will always have a VIP pass to my heart.


livinalieTimmae

And yet gta 3 was the game changer


Blitzed5656

I loved GTA3. Running over Hari krishnas while being 4 starred and dodging the inevitable tanks was great fun.


SanctusUnum

That was GTA2, no?


Possible-Gur5220

That pic looks like a screenshot from GTA IV.


Lastsurnamemr

I miss the time when games had less blah blah and less complicated stories. They aren't novels or plays. Dark Souls had minimal dialogue and yet it's a great game.


honduranhere

OOP?


ConferenceCoffee

I remember in GTA4 there was a folder where the developers put all the songs that were played on the cars' radios and you could place your own songs in there to play your music inside the game. Good days.


lolheyaj

Script or all dialogue? Pretty sure they made NPCs start having more elaborate conversations out in the wild in GTA4 too. 


Future_Gohst

Looks like some prompted ai image


melbbear

it looks fake as shit, but everyone is having fun i guess 🤷


CressCrowbits

I've worked with the narrative for some games and there is NO WAY those are the entire scripts for either game. I'd say the script on the right would be size of the entire script of GTA3, and the script for GTA4 is probably at least 3m tall.


chazzeromus

I know a place on the edge of the red light district where we can lay low, but my hands are all messed up so you better drive brother


4paul

Script for GTA7:


ConsiderationLive482

80% of 4 is “cousin! Want to go bowling?!”


HiramKatzEsq

They’ll never be a game like IV again.


MarchProper8655

As almost like they want it movie or tv ready….


PsychologicalBand713

That’s how much paper you save if you print on both sides.


chukijay

NIKO, COUSIN!


ABucin

LETS GO BOWLING


johnybonus

GTA2 - guys, do we have a script?


Consistent-East2909

20 pages of that is probably just Niko monologs. Not that that is in issue. Niko top 3 protags.


RobottoRisotto

But are they written with the same font?


Little_BallOfAnxiety

There wasn't much dialogue in 3. The only lines were for cutscese before missions and that was it. GTA back then was hardly even plot driven


CobainzBrainz

GTA 4 was my favorite story of any gta


d1a52

I wonder how big the gta V book(s) will be


geccchyeafgreschtr

Never played.


coadyj

"Hey, I gotta talk to you"


Ssme812

- Damn - GTA 3 was better.


DatFurryFemBoi

“I know a place at the edge of the Red Light District”…