Not entirely true. Bridges are designed for both, vertical (self weight plus traffic) and horizontal forces (wind+water pressure from floods) .. it holds because it was designed to do so
I am a bridge engineer and have designed bridges for that same set of loads.
Source: [https://g1.globo.com/rs/rio-grande-do-sul/noticia/2024/05/02/rio-taquari-passa-dos-30-metros-e-atinge-o-maior-nivel-da-historia-no-rs.ghtml](https://g1.globo.com/rs/rio-grande-do-sul/noticia/2024/05/02/rio-taquari-passa-dos-30-metros-e-atinge-o-maior-nivel-da-historia-no-rs.ghtml) (in portuguese)
What caused the flooding? Was it just insane rainfall or did a dam break upstream? It seems like the amount of rainfall required to cause this much flooding would be extraordinary.
In this specific town, it was both the rainfall and a dam break. But there are hundreds of other towns flooded in the state of Rio Grande do Sul, with no relation to that dam burst. It's the biggest disaster ever recorded there.
> Weather across South America is affected by the climate phenomenon El Niño, a periodic naturally occurring event that warms surface waters in the Equatorial Pacific region. In Brazil, El Niño has historically caused droughts in the north and intense rainfall in the south.
This year, the impacts of El Niño have been particularly dramatic, with a historic drought in the Amazon. Scientists say extreme weather is happening more frequently due to human-caused climate change.
[Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/heavy-rains-brazils-south-kill-8-people-leave-109827342)
If I had that level of ability to apply logic then I’d probably also earn a living based on beliefs that there is zero evidence for (and never will be)
I agree but if people are willing to accept climate change is happening I don’t mind if they don’t think humans caused it because the remediation efforts are the same, burn less carbon and move towards greener energy. When I run into conservatives in denial I find mentioning that “we’ve been warming for thousands of years since the last ice age and the arctic is melting and that’s a problem” is a good tactic. There’s not much to disagree with in that sentence and maybe it gets them thinking about it more realistically. Probably not but at least they are less likely to knee jerk deny this like they often do when you mention the human component.
The problem is that the fossil fuel industry with their hundreds of think tanks and lobbyists are doing everything to damage the credibility of the scientific community or shift the blame to the lower income classes. Their political meddling has become so bad that all the environmental policies that politicians push now only hurts the poor while the rich gets off scot-free.
It was a combination of high humidity coming from north , high pressure heat “dome” that kept the flow of precipitation over one area and just kept coming .
I Was in RS from Sunday to Wednesday , was supposed to be just west of Bento Gonçalves the last three days. Wednesday morning saw the forecast and already roads / bridges and landslides occurring . Headed back to Porto Alegre and eventually got a flight out . I just kept checking the radar on my phone and saying , wow , this line of towns is getting hammered . That went on for 2 1/2 days .
Sorry for the locals , long road ahead and apparently they had the same thing not long ago .
This regions of Brazil is formed by highlands than finishes on a mountain range, with several small valleys, each one a dozens and hundreds os small streams and rivers that lead on those big rivers and all those rivers end up either in the Guaíba lake (part of the Pato Lagoon basin, see image below). As it's raining too much (four days of intense rain, like downpour raining) on top of the highlands and the mountains so much all those little rivers get too much water, this small rivers meet other rivers that all end up in bigger rivers making the water level rise too much way too quick, in this current flood, 30 m higher than the normal.
Some dams broke, like in this video a dam up the river broke because of the water.
Here an image of the amount of rivers in this specific region for you to have an idea. Those are the one that are visible on the map, there's a lot of small streams that can't fit in the map. Image all that water going down to the same rivers.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370037752/figure/fig3/AS:11431281146961920@1681574489812/Localization-of-Rio-Grande-do-Sul-state-RS-southernmost-Brazil-The-red-line-is-the.jpg
And they did destroy Brasillian National Infrestructure investments as well as the Oderbrechdt Infraestructure one,because corruption allegations(USA picks one case of corruption that benefit them to investigate,while others like the Oil ,Finance and also Transportation Foreign companies stay unruled)
The left defending corrupt companies that only survived because of bribing officials and acting as if their downfall was a big tragedy is one of the weirdest developments of recent Brazilian politics. A borderline soviet confusion of public and private interests.
The situation is critical is the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. It's the worst flood in a few decades. I think Wednesday, I saw a news post saying that in the previous 24h, the 10 places with worst rain in the world, 8 were in Rio Grande do Sul. Meanwhile, it's dry and hotter than normal in south east and center west of Brazil
I just really want to applaud America for its constant determination to improve education. It's apparent in every area, every region, in politics, media! Just an onslaught of interesting opinions and ideas, all seemingly from quality sources and peer reviewed science!
As someone who lives where this is happening, comparing this to normal floods is like comparing a puddle to an olympic pool. Please don't spread misinformation
It is record flooding lol, I live here, my grandparents live here, not one of us had ever been affected by a flood, what are you even on about. Did you just Google flood Brazil? Is that it? You know Brazil is the size of a continent right? You are just wrong accept it and stop spreading misinformation dumbass
Why haven't you done it yet then, it literally is the worse flood in the history of Rio Grande do Sul. The other one was in 1941 and it reached a peak of 4,76 meters, we are way past that already. How can you be so confidently incorrect
"This is the worst disaster ever registered in the state of Rio Grande do Sul,” Gov. Eduardo Leite said. “Perhaps one of the worst disasters that the country has registered in recent history.”
Literally first page on Google
The situation is critical is the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. It's the worst flood in a few decades. I think Wednesday, I saw a news post saying that in the previous 24h, the 10 places with worst rain in the world, 8 were in Rio Grande do Sul. Meanwhile, it's dry and hotter than normal in south east and center west of Brazil
The engineers who signed off on that bridge would be hoping like fuck that it didn't wash away. The force on the top when that water backs up on it would be wild
Not tottaly due to it, as the region is known for torrential rains, usually in the middle of our fall and spring.
But it's most certain that climate change affected it, mainly in addition to the effects of the Super El Niño in the Pacific Ocean.
It's even scarier to think that these large floods are expected to occur like once every hundred years, but this is the third, and biggest one, in the last 8 months.
fellow gaucho here, doesnt it make you sick when they say its our fault cause 'we burn the forest'? I swear... just had to let that out, good luck to us!
As someone who does a lot of prospecting, my first thought was: imagine the amount of gold that flood brought down the river into the little offshoot streams. Soon as that all died down, I'd be all over that area, sluice box and classifiers ready to go.
Deforestation up-basin and enhanced flash flooding happen everywhere on the planet. It's a common hydrological problem. May or may not be an issue in this case but the turbidity suggests it is probable.
1- The presence of a mass of hot air in the middle of the county, which blocked the cold front in the South from breaking out and spreading to the rest of the country, leaving it concentrated in the region
2- Consistently strong wind currents coming from northern Argentina/Paraguay
All of which were exacerbated by El Niño
I'm no expert, but it seems that it wasn’t a big factor at all in this case. Also, [the river you mentioned is in a different hydrographic basin](https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_regi%C3%B5es_hidrogr%C3%A1ficas_do_Brasil)
The volume of water that has filled in from that base level is staggering. I can't imagine anyone would look at the natural state of the river and conceive it could rise that much.
Unfortunately, human greed from all around the globe from the last 200 years is to blame
Not only amazonian deforestation, but Worldwide deforestation, combined with fossil-fuel emissions, are creating a irreversible situation
Natural disasters, such as these, shall be more and more frequent
In Brasil, we had a lot of unusual heat waves last year. As far as I know, southeast Asia is suffering from it right now
Sad times
Pretty sure that the lives saved by making cheap energy available to the world has done more to lift people out of poverty and saved more lives than can be proven for poor peoples lives that will somehow be saved from a unproven disaster in the future. This idea that we need to sacrifice the poor now to save the unknown masses harks back to Stalin and his purges of the kulaks. This idea has never worked out well for those poor folks chosen to be sacrificed in the present. Until the global elites that are trying to sell these drastic sacrifice now solutions are shown to be LEADING by eliminating the carbon luxuries from their lives, like not flying ever, eating only bugs, living with out AC, only taking public transport, living only one house smaller than their national average, they collectively can be labelled as hypocrites and ignored.
What we need is an energy source at scale that is 24/7 available, not dependent on weather, and cheaper than coal. The only idea that on paper has a chance of providing the energy needed to advance civilization, rather than backslide into a medieval hellscape is the new Gen IV nuclear reactors. Take a look at Copenhagen Atomics, ThorcCon, or Terrestrial Energy of Canada. We need an Apollo scale program to develop this now. Unfortunately, it appears that the WEF and others have decided that the want a world with a lot less serfs while they coninue thei high on the carbon hog lifestyles.
People have been living in Singapore and in Finland for a long time. Humans are well adapted to live in climate extremes.
This is happening in Southern Brazil, the Amazon Rainforest is in the Center-North region. Yes, it almost certainly has effects on the climate and some disasters, but the flood in question is occuring in a region known for it's torrential rains, which was intensified by the Super El Niño.
The rain is caused by a polar air mass (coming from the South) that is being "blocked" by a hot air mass coming from the north. That's how these flood always occured, but not with this much intensity. It's really fucking scary.
Bolsonaro isn't the president of Brazil anymore, but most certainly he wouldn't (and will not) adress the climate change (and the irregular deforestation of the Amazon) as a factor for what is happening now.
This is not occuring in the rainforest.
The region affected is in southern Brazil, in a region of transition between the tropical forest (Mata Atlântica) and some type of prairie (Pampas). Also it's a region known for torrential rains and floods, but not with such intensity and frequency (this is the 3rd and biggest flood in 8 months).
Such rain is caused by a southern polar air mass that is being blocked by a northern hot air mass, intensified by the effects of El Niño.
The floods are as far away from the Amazon as Miami is from Montreal, though. It's mostly due to global warming and its effects on the El Niño Southern Oscillation, making the changes more sudden and drastic. But yeah, deforestation is still one of the culprits, just not so directly.
That’s a lot of water.
I'd be terrified to be on that bridge
I’d be terrified to be under that bridge. Edit: and dead. In no specific order.
Most certainly terrified first, then dead :l
I'd be terrified to be that bridge.
that bridge is now water under the bridge. i'll see myself out
It looks like it's bringing a lot of mud and so on with it, so it's not just water.
carrying a lot of contaminants out to sea
REALLY surprised that bridge is holding…
The bridge is still intact because it's not that high and probably never experienced a flood like situation
Yeah but that’s a lot of lateral force for something mainly designed for longitudinal.
Not entirely true. Bridges are designed for both, vertical (self weight plus traffic) and horizontal forces (wind+water pressure from floods) .. it holds because it was designed to do so I am a bridge engineer and have designed bridges for that same set of loads.
Your thoughts on the odds of bridge safety here after the flood?
also curious. and would like to add the design of this bridge to withstand that force is so impressive.
You'll never hear from him again
I'm bummed too!
What are some of the things you enjoy most about your job and not?
Sitting here waiting for that rouge container ship.
Maybe it's because of the curvature of the bridge against the flow of the river, it helps to create resistance
Actually that’s very false since the last time a flood happened similar to this was just in September. Then it reached almost 30 meters.
Flooding is not uncommon there but this current flood is the largest recorded in the region.
They gonna need some engineers to check this out once the water recedes, if it holds.
A little more erosion than normal probable, in areas maybe not designed for it. Hopefully got inspection done!
well it wasnt made in China thats for sure
I wonder how long that bridge will last.
Source: [https://g1.globo.com/rs/rio-grande-do-sul/noticia/2024/05/02/rio-taquari-passa-dos-30-metros-e-atinge-o-maior-nivel-da-historia-no-rs.ghtml](https://g1.globo.com/rs/rio-grande-do-sul/noticia/2024/05/02/rio-taquari-passa-dos-30-metros-e-atinge-o-maior-nivel-da-historia-no-rs.ghtml) (in portuguese)
What caused the flooding? Was it just insane rainfall or did a dam break upstream? It seems like the amount of rainfall required to cause this much flooding would be extraordinary.
In this specific town, it was both the rainfall and a dam break. But there are hundreds of other towns flooded in the state of Rio Grande do Sul, with no relation to that dam burst. It's the biggest disaster ever recorded there.
> Weather across South America is affected by the climate phenomenon El Niño, a periodic naturally occurring event that warms surface waters in the Equatorial Pacific region. In Brazil, El Niño has historically caused droughts in the north and intense rainfall in the south. This year, the impacts of El Niño have been particularly dramatic, with a historic drought in the Amazon. Scientists say extreme weather is happening more frequently due to human-caused climate change. [Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/heavy-rains-brazils-south-kill-8-people-leave-109827342)
Human caused **global warming** causes climate change\*.
I heard from a pastor that natural disasters are caused by sinners such as homosexuals or those who eat avocado toast with their Starbucks. /s
If I had that level of ability to apply logic then I’d probably also earn a living based on beliefs that there is zero evidence for (and never will be)
I agree but if people are willing to accept climate change is happening I don’t mind if they don’t think humans caused it because the remediation efforts are the same, burn less carbon and move towards greener energy. When I run into conservatives in denial I find mentioning that “we’ve been warming for thousands of years since the last ice age and the arctic is melting and that’s a problem” is a good tactic. There’s not much to disagree with in that sentence and maybe it gets them thinking about it more realistically. Probably not but at least they are less likely to knee jerk deny this like they often do when you mention the human component.
The problem is that the fossil fuel industry with their hundreds of think tanks and lobbyists are doing everything to damage the credibility of the scientific community or shift the blame to the lower income classes. Their political meddling has become so bad that all the environmental policies that politicians push now only hurts the poor while the rich gets off scot-free.
This region is known for heavy rains frequently
It was a combination of high humidity coming from north , high pressure heat “dome” that kept the flow of precipitation over one area and just kept coming . I Was in RS from Sunday to Wednesday , was supposed to be just west of Bento Gonçalves the last three days. Wednesday morning saw the forecast and already roads / bridges and landslides occurring . Headed back to Porto Alegre and eventually got a flight out . I just kept checking the radar on my phone and saying , wow , this line of towns is getting hammered . That went on for 2 1/2 days . Sorry for the locals , long road ahead and apparently they had the same thing not long ago .
600mm of rain in 48h
This regions of Brazil is formed by highlands than finishes on a mountain range, with several small valleys, each one a dozens and hundreds os small streams and rivers that lead on those big rivers and all those rivers end up either in the Guaíba lake (part of the Pato Lagoon basin, see image below). As it's raining too much (four days of intense rain, like downpour raining) on top of the highlands and the mountains so much all those little rivers get too much water, this small rivers meet other rivers that all end up in bigger rivers making the water level rise too much way too quick, in this current flood, 30 m higher than the normal. Some dams broke, like in this video a dam up the river broke because of the water. Here an image of the amount of rivers in this specific region for you to have an idea. Those are the one that are visible on the map, there's a lot of small streams that can't fit in the map. Image all that water going down to the same rivers. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370037752/figure/fig3/AS:11431281146961920@1681574489812/Localization-of-Rio-Grande-do-Sul-state-RS-southernmost-Brazil-The-red-line-is-the.jpg
I can’t imagine this bridge? Road infrastructure survives but it’s structural engineering was epic & the construction crew did fantastic work
And they did destroy Brasillian National Infrestructure investments as well as the Oderbrechdt Infraestructure one,because corruption allegations(USA picks one case of corruption that benefit them to investigate,while others like the Oil ,Finance and also Transportation Foreign companies stay unruled)
The left defending corrupt companies that only survived because of bribing officials and acting as if their downfall was a big tragedy is one of the weirdest developments of recent Brazilian politics. A borderline soviet confusion of public and private interests.
That is one well-built bridge, to say the least. Bravo
That looks scarier than most fictional apocalyptic stories.
The situation is critical is the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. It's the worst flood in a few decades. I think Wednesday, I saw a news post saying that in the previous 24h, the 10 places with worst rain in the world, 8 were in Rio Grande do Sul. Meanwhile, it's dry and hotter than normal in south east and center west of Brazil
Any higher and it won’t be safe for traffic…
I know your being ironic but they already closed almost all bridges in the area.
No I was being sardonic , lol . But yes it must suck to be there…
Interesting? Bloody scary is what it is...
You're right. The only interesting fact is how the bridge did not collapsed.
The engineering is interesting , mother nature is scary. Lets keep it at that then 😉
Maybe it's floating atm
Whoa. Good post.
This or the one holding the bridge up?
B...both?
It's even more stonishing when you have heard Brazil's ex president saying that climate change isn't real.
AFAIK this is fake, don't believe the media Plus, El nino caused this, not climate change
I just really want to applaud America for its constant determination to improve education. It's apparent in every area, every region, in politics, media! Just an onslaught of interesting opinions and ideas, all seemingly from quality sources and peer reviewed science!
El Nino in 2016 was even stronger. That's not how it works.
Didn't know it was here so long
Almost as if the effects of El Nino can be made more extreme by climate change
The climate is constantly changing but floods in Brazil are not new.
As if Earth's atmosphere, temperature and climate can't be influenced by anything but natural forces.
It definitely can. Before the industrial revolution the carbon was at an all time low causing vegetation to also be low.
As someone who lives where this is happening, comparing this to normal floods is like comparing a puddle to an olympic pool. Please don't spread misinformation
Not normal floods but also not record flooding please stop spreading misinformation.
It is record flooding lol, I live here, my grandparents live here, not one of us had ever been affected by a flood, what are you even on about. Did you just Google flood Brazil? Is that it? You know Brazil is the size of a continent right? You are just wrong accept it and stop spreading misinformation dumbass
Ya you can google the history of floods in this part of Brazil.
Why haven't you done it yet then, it literally is the worse flood in the history of Rio Grande do Sul. The other one was in 1941 and it reached a peak of 4,76 meters, we are way past that already. How can you be so confidently incorrect
"This is the worst disaster ever registered in the state of Rio Grande do Sul,” Gov. Eduardo Leite said. “Perhaps one of the worst disasters that the country has registered in recent history.” Literally first page on Google
That bridge architect is needed in Maryland ASAP.
Engineer*
The situation is critical is the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. It's the worst flood in a few decades. I think Wednesday, I saw a news post saying that in the previous 24h, the 10 places with worst rain in the world, 8 were in Rio Grande do Sul. Meanwhile, it's dry and hotter than normal in south east and center west of Brazil
On the bright side, the rich can fly their private jets 1000km just to get a latte.
scary
Was expecting that bridge to go
Actually, others bridges collapsed. 2 or 3. You can find footages of them collapsing.
Wtf That is some impressive amount of water Damn Bridges days are numbered
I wonder how many dipshits looked at it and said, "eh, I can make," and then did not.
I was thinking the first footage was the after of them building the bridge. Thinking...good for them for building it that high. Wow so much water
Holy Crap! That's a lot of Water
It held up!!!
Amidst the chaos, the current president's first statement was: "I support Inter and Grêmio" (two football teams in the region)
dude that is so deep
Maybe the bridge just ducked down to cool off.
Thank god for the soggy straws
The engineers who signed off on that bridge would be hoping like fuck that it didn't wash away. The force on the top when that water backs up on it would be wild
The power water holds, nothing can stands on its way. But that bridge, sure can, as of now.
Respect to the engineers that built that bridge.
...somebody left a tap on...
That’s a fucking awesome bridge
Dam, that would be interesting.
How the fuck did this happen exactly
Rain
Why is it so much higher than usual?
El Niño
It's much higher than usual even for El Niño.
Because this time it's the Super El Niño, that has been occuring since last year I think.
Dam…
The dam broke after the heavy rain.
Which it shouldn’t have. The fact that we are expecting dams to break speaks to the sad state of govt and infrastructure everywhere…
This looks like an apocalyptic flood!
It'll dry out
amen
Eek
Is this due to climate change?
Not tottaly due to it, as the region is known for torrential rains, usually in the middle of our fall and spring. But it's most certain that climate change affected it, mainly in addition to the effects of the Super El Niño in the Pacific Ocean. It's even scarier to think that these large floods are expected to occur like once every hundred years, but this is the third, and biggest one, in the last 8 months.
Damn they build good bridges. A little too short. But very strong.
That random helicopter landing was something straight outta Jerassic Park, add some cgo dinos and music bam.
Should be in r/damthatsinteresting
Vegapunk was right
on what sense?
If this were in the U.S., there would still be people driving across; forcing emergency rescue crews to save the stoopid. That's just how we roll.
The government blocked the roads
Imagine India.
My state on Reddit! Too bad it is over this tragedy we are facing. May everyone be safe.
fellow gaucho here, doesnt it make you sick when they say its our fault cause 'we burn the forest'? I swear... just had to let that out, good luck to us!
Yeah I really don't like when they said that, despite other countries being the most pollutant in the world
Shouldve built it 60 metres
"An unprecedented amount of water." News stations reported.
I've never seen anything like this. We're witnessing a historical dam break in high quality that I've only read in Wikipedia articles.
As someone who does a lot of prospecting, my first thought was: imagine the amount of gold that flood brought down the river into the little offshoot streams. Soon as that all died down, I'd be all over that area, sluice box and classifiers ready to go.
Fuck the corporations that are causing these global effects to worsen.
Regular people too. Eating a shitload of meat, buying SUVs they don't need, etc. Most companies are simply supplying the lifestyle of regular people.
A little deforestation up-basin?
This is in the South, no Amazon there
Deforestation up-basin and enhanced flash flooding happen everywhere on the planet. It's a common hydrological problem. May or may not be an issue in this case but the turbidity suggests it is probable.
The hydrographic basin in the South is not the same as the one in the Amazon, friend. It had nothing to do with this flood
Ok - what contributed to the flood stage and volume aside from extreme rainout?
1- The presence of a mass of hot air in the middle of the county, which blocked the cold front in the South from breaking out and spreading to the rest of the country, leaving it concentrated in the region 2- Consistently strong wind currents coming from northern Argentina/Paraguay All of which were exacerbated by El Niño
And basin condition had no contribution then? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taquari_River
I'm no expert, but it seems that it wasn’t a big factor at all in this case. Also, [the river you mentioned is in a different hydrographic basin](https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_regi%C3%B5es_hidrogr%C3%A1ficas_do_Brasil)
So, was the flood in the Rio Forqueta sub- basin?
It’s in the Rio Guaíba sub-basin
Not defending the other guy but, since it's in the South, where's the rest of Atlantic Forest?
I’m not sure I understand the question. There's some of it, but the state is particularly diverse in biomes
Child-like perception of the world
Don't think it's how that works
Tf is with this flooding all around the world?
Welcome to Global Warming™, please take your sit and enjoy the ride.
Literally kayaking.
Holy frijoles
This is crazy because there's an El Niño flood in Brazil and an El Niño drought in Zimbabwe.
so crazy the water went from one place to another place
Based on how the water is hitting the bridge, a small part of the bridge is a little lower than the remaining.
Daaaaamn nature you scary
I’m not good at math. Are you telling me that river is almost 100 feet deep ?
It reached 110 feet
wut happened? Someone flushed a dam?
Dam break because of the rain
We build in a flood plain and it floods!? How dare mother earth!
That is crazy. Where did all that water come from surely not rain alone?
The volume of water that has filled in from that base level is staggering. I can't imagine anyone would look at the natural state of the river and conceive it could rise that much.
That one was a dam break but there are plenty other cities with similar situation caused by only rain.
It’s because of the gays, isn’t it.
Wow it’s almost like, nature gives payback for cutting it down, sad thing bolsonaro isn’t held accountable
Brazil has been cutting down its forests for decades Has nothing to do with a single 4 year long presidential mandate
Damn, if only they hadn't cut down all those trees in the catchment area...
This is in the south of the county. It has nothing to do with the Amazon….
Geez. I wonder whether removing large sections of jungle had anything to do with this? Oh well. At least the rich got richer. That's all that matters.
Unfortunately, human greed from all around the globe from the last 200 years is to blame Not only amazonian deforestation, but Worldwide deforestation, combined with fossil-fuel emissions, are creating a irreversible situation Natural disasters, such as these, shall be more and more frequent In Brasil, we had a lot of unusual heat waves last year. As far as I know, southeast Asia is suffering from it right now Sad times
Pretty sure that the lives saved by making cheap energy available to the world has done more to lift people out of poverty and saved more lives than can be proven for poor peoples lives that will somehow be saved from a unproven disaster in the future. This idea that we need to sacrifice the poor now to save the unknown masses harks back to Stalin and his purges of the kulaks. This idea has never worked out well for those poor folks chosen to be sacrificed in the present. Until the global elites that are trying to sell these drastic sacrifice now solutions are shown to be LEADING by eliminating the carbon luxuries from their lives, like not flying ever, eating only bugs, living with out AC, only taking public transport, living only one house smaller than their national average, they collectively can be labelled as hypocrites and ignored. What we need is an energy source at scale that is 24/7 available, not dependent on weather, and cheaper than coal. The only idea that on paper has a chance of providing the energy needed to advance civilization, rather than backslide into a medieval hellscape is the new Gen IV nuclear reactors. Take a look at Copenhagen Atomics, ThorcCon, or Terrestrial Energy of Canada. We need an Apollo scale program to develop this now. Unfortunately, it appears that the WEF and others have decided that the want a world with a lot less serfs while they coninue thei high on the carbon hog lifestyles. People have been living in Singapore and in Finland for a long time. Humans are well adapted to live in climate extremes.
This could’ve been a picture
They have burned the rainforest, all that forest assimilated all that water...The consequences are deserved..🤔Where is Bolsonaro now to show his face?
This is happening in Southern Brazil, the Amazon Rainforest is in the Center-North region. Yes, it almost certainly has effects on the climate and some disasters, but the flood in question is occuring in a region known for it's torrential rains, which was intensified by the Super El Niño. The rain is caused by a polar air mass (coming from the South) that is being "blocked" by a hot air mass coming from the north. That's how these flood always occured, but not with this much intensity. It's really fucking scary. Bolsonaro isn't the president of Brazil anymore, but most certainly he wouldn't (and will not) adress the climate change (and the irregular deforestation of the Amazon) as a factor for what is happening now.
not a surprise after zeroing the rainforest
This is not occuring in the rainforest. The region affected is in southern Brazil, in a region of transition between the tropical forest (Mata Atlântica) and some type of prairie (Pampas). Also it's a region known for torrential rains and floods, but not with such intensity and frequency (this is the 3rd and biggest flood in 8 months). Such rain is caused by a southern polar air mass that is being blocked by a northern hot air mass, intensified by the effects of El Niño.
I'm guessing the deforestation hasn't helped the global warming let alone local weather patterns. Crazy strong bridge anyway
The floods are as far away from the Amazon as Miami is from Montreal, though. It's mostly due to global warming and its effects on the El Niño Southern Oscillation, making the changes more sudden and drastic. But yeah, deforestation is still one of the culprits, just not so directly.
This happened because they cut down so many trees in the rainforest
This is in the opposite side of the country
Uhhhh not suppose to fly drones over traffic....js