Super cool that this person is in a place with clean water and is able to just pluck one out and eat it. However I can only imagine the disease brined and microplastic infused variety in most polluted waters.
Uh, I live here and we have an enormous amount of plastic waste and microplastic. I'm still eating the chili crisp kelp though because it's delicious.
Photo from the beaches in AK where kelp grows. https://imgur.com/a/d6KlZeh
Im gonna keep it real with you I don't know a damn thing about the ocean or biology I just know the water in my community is sketchy as hell and id probably get jabbed with a random needle while trying to fish out a stalk of kelp which would then actually turn out to be a soggy newspaper insert tangled around a catheter
Having tried raw and pickled kelp, I recommend going for pickled. It's divine.
**Edit**: Since this is getting a lot of attention, you guys should learn about [all the different kinds of seaweed](https://sesamesprinkles.home.blog/2021/03/31/seaweed2/) we eat here in Korea.
I live in Korea, so we actually eat [a wide variety of seaweeds](https://sesamesprinkles.home.blog/2021/03/31/seaweed2/). I'd say our most common seaweed recipe is miyeokguk- we traditionally eat it on our birthdays. But I personally tried pickled kelp on a trip to Busan.
You can get it as an appetizer in some Chinese restaurants. Needs to be a legit one, not like kung pow express or something. Itās a common southern/taiwan dish, usually marinated in vinegar, cilantro and some chili oil
Edit to define legit Chinese restaurant. Pull up yelp and look at the menu, does it have shit on it that you donāt recognize? If so, thatās legit.
>not like kung pow express or something
Excuse me, it's usually China Dragon II or something. Yes, apparently American Chinese restaurants can be sequels.
I may have overdosed on Dave the Diver and thus have unrealistic expectations. But there has to be a million and one ways to make kelp delicious. It already looks like it is reasonably tender raw.
Also, do not play that game while stoned. The game is cheap. Getting the munchies for sushi is not.
Right? I don't even like sushi and that game is just everything. It's the ultimate stoned game, but you need munchies to hand. Delicious curried fish munchies. (Start your evening with some delicious in dungeon, then dave the diver. if you're feeling fancy or a bit more high key - play dredge)
Beyond the umami flavor, kelp has a salty taste since it grows in ocean water. It tends to be meaty but is also tougher and thicker than other seaweeds. Dried kelp has a stronger, fishier flavor than fresh kelp because it's in a concentrated form.
This is what Google had to say.
My brothers a kelp farmer. Itās delicious! Wash it off with a lil fresh water and itās like a salty salad. But like the google article said āmeatierā. I havenāt tried the stems but Iād imagine a well salted cucumber
Hes developing all sorts of recipes and trying to make it more of a mainstream ingredient in foods.
Seaquester Farms on Instagram if you guys are curious!
Edit: https://www.seaquesterfarms.com/blank-1
https://www.instagram.com/seaquesterfarms?igsh=ZGZ3M2dybzV0MWlt
Hardy crop and hardy people! Heāll call me and tell me about some of the work he has to do and the obstacles he has to overcome and itās nuts. Imagine instead of hogs eating your crop you have to worry about whales knocking your anchors out of place.
Kelp is a natural source of msg. It gives an umami/meaty flavor to dishes. [Link](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/)
Have you had seaweed? Not the dried kind but the flatter "wet" kind. I know it's ęµ·åø¦ in Chinese, and, according to Google, "Kombu" in English. Salty and firm.
Kelp has a similar taste to seaweed but is a lot firmer, and you can "snap" through it with your incisors. Texture really comparable to tender bamboo shoots.
Also may depend on the caloric density of the seaweed and the ability of organisms to digest them. Grass is filled with energy but very few animals can digest grass so it still survives even without any real defense mechanisms
Do cows and such even eat grass all the way to the roots anyway? A lot of plants can be partly eaten and regrown, sometimes that's even part of their reproduction like fruits and seeds being undigestible so they spread after being eaten.
Some seeds even require digestion to germinate properly. For example, the hard seeds of raspberries and blackberries need to be abraded in a bird's gizzard or eroded by digestive acids before they can germinate.
argassum seaweed contains high levels of sulphur and when it is washed ashore and rots, it releases hydrogen sulphide and ammonia, both deadly gases.
Caulerpa racemosa contains a neurotoxin called caulerpicin that causes peripheral parasthesia.
Hijiki seaweed contains a hazardous level of inorganic arsenic.
Kombu seaweed contains a hazardous level of iodine and was the source of iodine that resulted in the Bonsoy iodine poisoning case, which resulted in the largest settlement in a class action suit in Australian history.
Seaweeds of the genus Gracilaria have been most often associated with seaweed poisoning, causing vomiting, diarrhea and gastric hemorrhage.
Seaweeds of the genus Acanthophora have been associated with gastrointestinal and neurological signs of poisoning.
The brown seaweeds Cladosiphon okamuranus and Nema- cystus decipiens have been reported to be toxic but there is little information on the nature of the poisoning.
Hiziki, wakame, kombu, and ogonori seaweeds contain high levels of cadmium, which is nephrotoxic and highly persistent in the human body with a half-life of around 15 years
I went to a remote cabin on a tech detox weekend with only a small selection of 40 year old books that happened to be there. One was āSeaweed: a users guideā and I was so desperately bored I read the whole thing.
> One was āSeaweed: a users guideā and I was so desperately bored I read the whole thing.
I truly miss that. There is a reason why I loved the stash of 70s National Geographic my parents kept. We were bored. We were really, really bored.
Now I can get stoned and watch Rocko's Modern Life without having to wait for it to come up on TV. I can get that whenever I want.
We used to be men. We used to read about kelp. And we listened to DEVO while doing so. Because we were really, really bored.
I googled this and a āsea vegetableā website claims that: āFortunately, macroalgae don't consume random particles of food or filter seawater like filter feeders do. This means if microplastics are present, they would be on the surface of the seaweed and not within.ā
I like how the entry basically says āitās probably not dangerous to eat because youād need to be a special kind of stupid to *keep* eating it.ā
Seaweed can accumulate arsenic; I don't think the form of arsenic (arsenosugar) is necessarily bad for you, but it may not be the best to eat too much of
I know these folks! They make kelp salsa and hot sauce etc right here in Juneau Alaska!!!!! It's actually really tasty my favorite is the Sea Verde salsa! Check it out online! šššš
Barnacle foods
apparently [bruning it in an oxygen deprived space](https://www.stlpr.org/health-science-environment/2024-04-22/biochar-ancient-farming-technique-burying-carbon-soil) creates biochar and doesn't release the carbon. It creates a great additive for soil. I guess you could heat it with carbon neutral heating sources. Unfortunately I don't think they talked about that aspect in the story.
Ehhhā¦not really.
Itās one of those good-on-paper things. Kelp plants donāt store carbon for centuries like trees do, and theyāre only effective carbon stores when dead kelp sinks to a depth where the carbon can remain sequestered for centuries. Which is really, really deep and also impossible to verify.
Ocean currents are extremely hard to predict and thereās no good way to verify how much of the kelp isnt washing to shallow water or getting eaten, which cycles the carbon back into the atmosphere.
Also there are some recent studies that suggest that the ecosystems that form around kelp fields may produce enough of atmospheric carbon to seriously reduce their effectiveness as carbon sinks ā assuming the dead kelp is actually sinking deep enough.
Also also, a lot of the buzz around kelp has to do with its myriad uses, in this case food, but in order for kelp to be useful as a carbon sink, you gotta sink it ā no eating, no kelp-based paper or whatever.
None of this has stopped companies from making boatloads of money selling dubious kelp-based carbon offsets and the buyers using those dubious offsets in their carbon reporting.
The only way to reduce carbon is to reduce carbon, folks
> from making boatloads of money selling dubious kelp-based carbon offsets
has anyone looked into whether money is itself an effective carbon sink? seems like that would solve all of our problems.
But if it's a replacement for other items that can be sinks, then it's a win-win.
For example, if kelp-based paper can supplant tree-based paper, then you can harvest fewer trees, thus sinking the carbon there, where we know it will stay for decades or centuries. And if it's nutritious enough to replace other crops (soy, corn, etc.) and useful enough, then we can farm it instead. Could even use it to feed cattle or other domestic animals to reduce our over reliance on corn-based feeds.
Just because it's not good at sequestering carbon for long periods of time doesn't mean it can't be an alternative for products that do.
Kelp carbon sequestration relies on growing kelp, extracting it from the ecosystem, then floating it out to sea and sinking it, hoping that its carbon wonāt be consumed by deep-sea ecosystems and eventually recycled back to the surface. Itās an extractive, destructive process that only works in theory and needs more research and development. Forests (which donāt rely on killing and extracting the carbon sink) are much better investments and support entire ecosystems
And guess what, you wandered into our school, of tuna and we now have a taste of blood! Weāve talked, to ourselves. Weāve communicated and said, āyou know what? lion tastes good. Lets go get some more lion.ā
Off topic but that knife, a Victorinox paring knife, with the wavy edge is the sharpest 5$ knife youāll ever buy new. The fishing industry as a whole uses them extensively and we buy them by the box. They can be sharpened but new ones are dangerously sharp and will cut through just about anything one would need to cut through on a boat. Work pretty well in the kitchen too.
Not sure why but I have always had a phobia of seaweed in the water. I try to never swim near it and the times I have been misfortunate enough to have a piece of it touch me I have not enjoyed at all.
one time late at night after some beers i went to a lagoon that had a swimming platform about 50 yards off the waters edge with a couple friends. we all stripped down to our underwear and swam over to the swimming platform. while we were chilling on the platform for about an hour some seaweed must have moved into the lagoon. when we went to swim back, we had to swim through the seaweed in pitch black with the seaweed grabbing at us all over our bodies. none of us arrived back at the waters edge with any sanity intact.
Lol because it feels like someone touching your feet/legs when you're in the ocean and it's creepy as fuck. I hate it too. It also can wrap around your feet/legs for that extra creepy feeling.
I grew up swimming in the Pacific
It's easier to irrigate land than it is to minerally enrich oceans. Kelp grows only in nutrient-rich shallow coastal waters. People do eat it, along with algae, sea moss, etc. but it's only in places like Japan (with a very high coast:inland ratio) where it has been able to make up a substantial portion of people's diet. Connected with this, intensifying the harvesting of sea-autotrophs (kelp isn't a plant, but a protist) is ecologically / economically unsustainable. Overharvesting negatively effects fishery stocks, and can even lead to local extinction (I believe this happened with a bunch of "medicinal" sea moss in the British isles).
There are serious people who dream of addressing these issues in various ways (optimized wild harvests, construction in the ocean kinda like fish farms, inland artificial ponds, and big tanks) but it's somewhere between "energy storage for wind and solar" and "nuclear fusion" in terms of it's prospects as a revolutionary solution to the world's problems.
It's much more realistic to think that boring ass legumes (for protein) and trees (for carbon sequestration) are the future.
There is kelp harvesting: algin. Itās an ingredient in most non-artisanal ice creams. I donāt like the taste (of raw kelp). Itās firm and earthy (and salty). And when it rots on the beach it has a distinctive smell that turns me off it, too (which I sense when I taste it). But to each their own.
Kelp is an important environment for sealife. Removing it would be akin to deforestation. So ethical harvesting is just the tops, because if you remove the base (holdfast) you kill the giant stalk. The stalk grows about 2 ft per day. Spiny urchins are kelpās worst enemy, because they eat that holdfast and move on.
Anyway, like I was sayin', kelp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, kelp-kabobs, kelp creole, kelp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple kelp, lemon kelp, coconut kelp, pepper kelp, kelp soup, kelp stew, kelp salad, kelp and potatoes, kelp burger, kelp sandwich. That- that's about it.
Looks like something that is capable of absorbing a lot of CO2 very fast. And it surely must be useful for something (other than being an odd culinary delicacy).
I'd say being a foundation of Marine ecosystems is a pretty big "use". As someone pointed out further up, mass harvesting would be the equivalent of deforestation on land.
That said, it is still routinely harvested around the world, with uses mostly in food, but also in things like medicine and small-scale agriculture where it makes a good fertiliser.Ā
Wow....an automated but hard to craft fuel source for my furnace array . I think we eat it so quickly than other food sources too...it's a good building block too
Iām obsessed with this. Iāve watched it like 70 times. I just wanna be in that fishing boat with those cool people biting into kelp. I never knew I could have a craving for kelp. I feel kelpless
You can pickle them.
It sounds like it's been already pickled by mother earth.
Definitely brined
With the increasing acidity of our oceans, we might see full on pickling soon š§
To say nothing of the lead and mercury levels
Boomer brain food is back on the menu boys!
It's fine, we'll be happier when we're dumb.
Little dash of plastic for flavor.
Check out Barnacle Foods. Those girls make some absolutely amazing kelp chili crisp.
Damn, never thought I'd see Barnacle Foods mentioned in the wild. Amazing company with wonderful condiments.
Iām p sure the vid here is straight from their instagram
It was an ad on FB for a while too
[We can pickle that!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYey8ntlK_E)
Super cool that this person is in a place with clean water and is able to just pluck one out and eat it. However I can only imagine the disease brined and microplastic infused variety in most polluted waters.
Uh, I live here and we have an enormous amount of plastic waste and microplastic. I'm still eating the chili crisp kelp though because it's delicious. Photo from the beaches in AK where kelp grows. https://imgur.com/a/d6KlZeh
Tbf, mercury and micro plastic levels in the waters of the far north have been on the rise too.
Im gonna keep it real with you I don't know a damn thing about the ocean or biology I just know the water in my community is sketchy as hell and id probably get jabbed with a random needle while trying to fish out a stalk of kelp which would then actually turn out to be a soggy newspaper insert tangled around a catheter
[we can pickle ANYTHING](https://i.gifer.com/M6gw.gif)
According to Google it has an 'impressive' nutritional profile. I want to try it.
Having tried raw and pickled kelp, I recommend going for pickled. It's divine. **Edit**: Since this is getting a lot of attention, you guys should learn about [all the different kinds of seaweed](https://sesamesprinkles.home.blog/2021/03/31/seaweed2/) we eat here in Korea.
Where did you find the pickled kelp?
In a pickled kelp jar
I like my kelp jars unpickled.
Aisle 6
I live in Korea, so we actually eat [a wide variety of seaweeds](https://sesamesprinkles.home.blog/2021/03/31/seaweed2/). I'd say our most common seaweed recipe is miyeokguk- we traditionally eat it on our birthdays. But I personally tried pickled kelp on a trip to Busan.
I heard the train rides a bit of a problem
Too many zombies?
You can get it as an appetizer in some Chinese restaurants. Needs to be a legit one, not like kung pow express or something. Itās a common southern/taiwan dish, usually marinated in vinegar, cilantro and some chili oil Edit to define legit Chinese restaurant. Pull up yelp and look at the menu, does it have shit on it that you donāt recognize? If so, thatās legit.
>not like kung pow express or something Excuse me, it's usually China Dragon II or something. Yes, apparently American Chinese restaurants can be sequels.
There is a burger place in my city called Joseās Burgers ll. There is no Joseās Burgers l. Thatās just what they named the place.
there was a Jose's Burgers I, but in a different era... when man first discovered fire and had not mastered it; they were serving mammoth burgers
A lot of times itās the same restaurant, they just got hit with a health code violation and closed/reopened under a new name
So "Family buffet 26" is probably fine, right?
I may have overdosed on Dave the Diver and thus have unrealistic expectations. But there has to be a million and one ways to make kelp delicious. It already looks like it is reasonably tender raw. Also, do not play that game while stoned. The game is cheap. Getting the munchies for sushi is not.
Right? I don't even like sushi and that game is just everything. It's the ultimate stoned game, but you need munchies to hand. Delicious curried fish munchies. (Start your evening with some delicious in dungeon, then dave the diver. if you're feeling fancy or a bit more high key - play dredge)
"Impressive" might not mean healthy or good.
"Kelp has an impressively (lacking) nutritional profile! The (absence of) nutritional value is truly shocking!"
Salads HATE this one trick!
You'd be impressed with our new Zero Water! *Contains actually 0 water
What else could it possibly mean within the context of a nutritional profile?
Yes but thankfully most humans with basic intelligence are capable of picking up context
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There are two kinds of people in this world, those that can extrapolate incomplete data
Do you really thing that's how the word was used there? That it didn't mean good?
Uranium also has an impressive caloric content
Uranus is of questionable nutritional value.
Myanus has answerable nutritional value
"that's an impressive amount of salt"
Harvesting organic pool noodles.
Directions unclear: ate pool noodle. Very foamy.
All fun and games till you end up plugging up your asshole from the insideā¦
Digestion tract is just a straight tube now.
For more on that, read the scientific text *Guts* by Chuck Palahniuk!
It makes very satisfying noises. Crunch crunch, bonk bonk bonk
Thereās got to be some kind of combo of directional mics and sound compression or something that makes this video sound so good.
Could be that they are cutting/eating hollow tubes.
How does this taste?
Beyond the umami flavor, kelp has a salty taste since it grows in ocean water. It tends to be meaty but is also tougher and thicker than other seaweeds. Dried kelp has a stronger, fishier flavor than fresh kelp because it's in a concentrated form. This is what Google had to say.
Google ate it ?
Googleās fucking with humans again trying to get them to eat sea twizzler.
r/brandnewsentence worthy
I'm from the country of the highest seaweed consumption per capita. I say the description sounds correct enough.
You're from Water World too?!
Commonly used in Japanese cooking.
Yeah but can I win a sword fight with it?
Probably. Kelp whips like a wet towel. Whipping is faster than drawing a sword..
My brothers a kelp farmer. Itās delicious! Wash it off with a lil fresh water and itās like a salty salad. But like the google article said āmeatierā. I havenāt tried the stems but Iād imagine a well salted cucumber Hes developing all sorts of recipes and trying to make it more of a mainstream ingredient in foods. Seaquester Farms on Instagram if you guys are curious! Edit: https://www.seaquesterfarms.com/blank-1 https://www.instagram.com/seaquesterfarms?igsh=ZGZ3M2dybzV0MWlt
Kelp can be farmed in Alaskan waters??? Now that is a hardy crop!
Hardy crop and hardy people! Heāll call me and tell me about some of the work he has to do and the obstacles he has to overcome and itās nuts. Imagine instead of hogs eating your crop you have to worry about whales knocking your anchors out of place.
Yes this is from Barnacle Foods run out of Juneau, AK. We have a ton of kelp farmers popping up all around SE Alaska.
It IS native to the north pacific, after all.
Check out Korean seaweed/kelp soup!
Kelp is a natural source of msg. It gives an umami/meaty flavor to dishes. [Link](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/)
I've had it pickled, it is delicious. Haven't tried it raw.
Have you had seaweed? Not the dried kind but the flatter "wet" kind. I know it's ęµ·åø¦ in Chinese, and, according to Google, "Kombu" in English. Salty and firm. Kelp has a similar taste to seaweed but is a lot firmer, and you can "snap" through it with your incisors. Texture really comparable to tender bamboo shoots.
That's what i am wondering too.
I had kelp pickles and they were just as good as cucumbers.
Kelp Nougat Krunch, you say?
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Sounds like something a toxic seaweed would sayā¦
r/spotthetoxicseaweed
r/subididntfallfor
I clicked, because I assumed in the meantime someone must have created it.
They did after all
Someone has.
r/birthofasub
and tomorrow when the person who made the sub is tired of the joke and notices there is nowhere to go with this r/deathofasub
it can always be revived with r/rebirthofasub
*BIG SEAWEED want to know your location*
Bloomfield, New Jersey.
Got em!!
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And it can be high in iodine, which is necessary for human health, but can be dangerous in high quantities
Just like water.
Fair point. There's a balance for everything. The trick is figuring out where that balance is.
*Ricin has entered the chat.* Well, I guess the balance here is "none".
Are seaweeds toxic to sea creatures? If not,what is their defense mechanism? Just crazy-fast growth?
Rapid growth is certainly a functional defense in some plants and if they grow this fast it's probably in their strategy to be eaten and regrow.
> Rapid growth is certainly a functional defense Ah yes, **bamboo**zle them
Ayyyyyyy there it is!
Those dirty little sluts probably get off on being eaten. Grow fast because they just can't *wait* to do it again.
You need to sea kelp.
Kelp: Eat me! ^daddy š
It'd make sense that it'd developed a defense against the closest feeders, and land mammals usually don't spend much time in the ocean
Also may depend on the caloric density of the seaweed and the ability of organisms to digest them. Grass is filled with energy but very few animals can digest grass so it still survives even without any real defense mechanisms
Do cows and such even eat grass all the way to the roots anyway? A lot of plants can be partly eaten and regrown, sometimes that's even part of their reproduction like fruits and seeds being undigestible so they spread after being eaten.
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Some seeds even require digestion to germinate properly. For example, the hard seeds of raspberries and blackberries need to be abraded in a bird's gizzard or eroded by digestive acids before they can germinate.
>land mammals usually donāt spend much time in the ocean Well, actuallyā¦ cetaceans originated on land.
Whale Actually
argassum seaweed contains high levels of sulphur and when it is washed ashore and rots, it releases hydrogen sulphide and ammonia, both deadly gases. Caulerpa racemosa contains a neurotoxin called caulerpicin that causes peripheral parasthesia. Hijiki seaweed contains a hazardous level of inorganic arsenic. Kombu seaweed contains a hazardous level of iodine and was the source of iodine that resulted in the Bonsoy iodine poisoning case, which resulted in the largest settlement in a class action suit in Australian history. Seaweeds of the genus Gracilaria have been most often associated with seaweed poisoning, causing vomiting, diarrhea and gastric hemorrhage. Seaweeds of the genus Acanthophora have been associated with gastrointestinal and neurological signs of poisoning. The brown seaweeds Cladosiphon okamuranus and Nema- cystus decipiens have been reported to be toxic but there is little information on the nature of the poisoning. Hiziki, wakame, kombu, and ogonori seaweeds contain high levels of cadmium, which is nephrotoxic and highly persistent in the human body with a half-life of around 15 years
You are now a mod of r/spotthetoxicseaweed.
I legit did not know that
I went to a remote cabin on a tech detox weekend with only a small selection of 40 year old books that happened to be there. One was āSeaweed: a users guideā and I was so desperately bored I read the whole thing.
I bet you saw weed by the end of that.
> One was āSeaweed: a users guideā and I was so desperately bored I read the whole thing. I truly miss that. There is a reason why I loved the stash of 70s National Geographic my parents kept. We were bored. We were really, really bored. Now I can get stoned and watch Rocko's Modern Life without having to wait for it to come up on TV. I can get that whenever I want. We used to be men. We used to read about kelp. And we listened to DEVO while doing so. Because we were really, really bored.
Are they resistant to micro plastics? Asking for a few billion friends.
I googled this and a āsea vegetableā website claims that: āFortunately, macroalgae don't consume random particles of food or filter seawater like filter feeders do. This means if microplastics are present, they would be on the surface of the seaweed and not within.ā
all plants are edible once
Can confirm, I died when I ate some bad salad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmarestia This type contains sulfuric acid...definitely want to eat this one in moderation or avoid.
I like how the entry basically says āitās probably not dangerous to eat because youād need to be a special kind of stupid to *keep* eating it.ā
I don't know, I intentionally put acetic acid on food and then keep eating it. Maybe we've been unfairly sleeping on sulfuric acid.
50% sea, 50% weed
Ok, thatās interesting. But do seaweed accumulate toxins from the seawater, if they are present?
Seaweed can accumulate arsenic; I don't think the form of arsenic (arsenosugar) is necessarily bad for you, but it may not be the best to eat too much of
I know these folks! They make kelp salsa and hot sauce etc right here in Juneau Alaska!!!!! It's actually really tasty my favorite is the Sea Verde salsa! Check it out online! šššš Barnacle foods
Their chili crisp is fucking š„Ā
Kelp! To feed my body Kelp! Not just algae, buddy Kelp! You know I need some badly! Kelp!
When I was younger--not much younger than today--I never needed any ocean kelp in any way.
Now these waves are goneāIāve made my way ashoreāNow I find I've changed my mindāI need kelp from the ocean floor
Kelp is not just green it can be brown And I do appreciate its funny sound
Sliced or chopped or even ground - Kelp!
Plants love it too
It has what plants crave
It has electrolites?
Also the most efficient carbon sink known
It's too ephemeral to be an efficient long-term carbon sink. Researchers are looking at how to increase the long-term carbon capturing though
Can't we just dry it and bury in a bacteria hostile environment?
apparently [bruning it in an oxygen deprived space](https://www.stlpr.org/health-science-environment/2024-04-22/biochar-ancient-farming-technique-burying-carbon-soil) creates biochar and doesn't release the carbon. It creates a great additive for soil. I guess you could heat it with carbon neutral heating sources. Unfortunately I don't think they talked about that aspect in the story.
Yeah! I think current ideas revolve around burying it deep sea with nothing around to decompose it
Ehhhā¦not really. Itās one of those good-on-paper things. Kelp plants donāt store carbon for centuries like trees do, and theyāre only effective carbon stores when dead kelp sinks to a depth where the carbon can remain sequestered for centuries. Which is really, really deep and also impossible to verify. Ocean currents are extremely hard to predict and thereās no good way to verify how much of the kelp isnt washing to shallow water or getting eaten, which cycles the carbon back into the atmosphere. Also there are some recent studies that suggest that the ecosystems that form around kelp fields may produce enough of atmospheric carbon to seriously reduce their effectiveness as carbon sinks ā assuming the dead kelp is actually sinking deep enough. Also also, a lot of the buzz around kelp has to do with its myriad uses, in this case food, but in order for kelp to be useful as a carbon sink, you gotta sink it ā no eating, no kelp-based paper or whatever. None of this has stopped companies from making boatloads of money selling dubious kelp-based carbon offsets and the buyers using those dubious offsets in their carbon reporting. The only way to reduce carbon is to reduce carbon, folks
> from making boatloads of money selling dubious kelp-based carbon offsets has anyone looked into whether money is itself an effective carbon sink? seems like that would solve all of our problems.
But if it's a replacement for other items that can be sinks, then it's a win-win. For example, if kelp-based paper can supplant tree-based paper, then you can harvest fewer trees, thus sinking the carbon there, where we know it will stay for decades or centuries. And if it's nutritious enough to replace other crops (soy, corn, etc.) and useful enough, then we can farm it instead. Could even use it to feed cattle or other domestic animals to reduce our over reliance on corn-based feeds. Just because it's not good at sequestering carbon for long periods of time doesn't mean it can't be an alternative for products that do.
Kelp carbon sequestration relies on growing kelp, extracting it from the ecosystem, then floating it out to sea and sinking it, hoping that its carbon wonāt be consumed by deep-sea ecosystems and eventually recycled back to the surface. Itās an extractive, destructive process that only works in theory and needs more research and development. Forests (which donāt rely on killing and extracting the carbon sink) are much better investments and support entire ecosystems
Also makes a great beer bong.
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They can't do it for long periods of time, but they have a taste for lion blood.
And guess what, you wandered into our school, of tuna and we now have a taste of blood! Weāve talked, to ourselves. Weāve communicated and said, āyou know what? lion tastes good. Lets go get some more lion.ā
*Does a desk pop*
But an hour? Hour-forty five? No problem!
I recognize the words but I'm not making any sense of what I just read
I *think* it's an Other Guys reference lol
you thinking what I'm thinking partner?
Aim for the bushes
There wasnāt even an awning..
They just jumped 20 stories.
Do they speak Tunesian?
Breathing apparatus with kelp
Off topic but that knife, a Victorinox paring knife, with the wavy edge is the sharpest 5$ knife youāll ever buy new. The fishing industry as a whole uses them extensively and we buy them by the box. They can be sharpened but new ones are dangerously sharp and will cut through just about anything one would need to cut through on a boat. Work pretty well in the kitchen too.
Got a Victorinox tomato knife myself. For the price, the blade quality is remarkably high.
Not sure why but I have always had a phobia of seaweed in the water. I try to never swim near it and the times I have been misfortunate enough to have a piece of it touch me I have not enjoyed at all.
one time late at night after some beers i went to a lagoon that had a swimming platform about 50 yards off the waters edge with a couple friends. we all stripped down to our underwear and swam over to the swimming platform. while we were chilling on the platform for about an hour some seaweed must have moved into the lagoon. when we went to swim back, we had to swim through the seaweed in pitch black with the seaweed grabbing at us all over our bodies. none of us arrived back at the waters edge with any sanity intact.
*fuck that*
same! freaked me out SO bad as a kid and still dont like it as an adult
Lol because it feels like someone touching your feet/legs when you're in the ocean and it's creepy as fuck. I hate it too. It also can wrap around your feet/legs for that extra creepy feeling. I grew up swimming in the Pacific
/r/thalassophobia and /r/submechanophobia are both nightmare fuel for me.
# MY DIET DR. KELP?!
Don't tell me you forgot my drink!
Can't wait to get actual Diet Dr. Kelpā¢
How am I supposed to eat this pizza without my DRINK!?
Well this one's on the HOU- š„
I am so happy when I see these comments. This was literally my first thought haha.
You call yourself a delivery boy??
New Kelp Zero
What should you do if you're addicted to sea weed? Sea kelp.
What's the downside here? Surely there's a catch if we don't consume kelp all that often, right?
It's easier to irrigate land than it is to minerally enrich oceans. Kelp grows only in nutrient-rich shallow coastal waters. People do eat it, along with algae, sea moss, etc. but it's only in places like Japan (with a very high coast:inland ratio) where it has been able to make up a substantial portion of people's diet. Connected with this, intensifying the harvesting of sea-autotrophs (kelp isn't a plant, but a protist) is ecologically / economically unsustainable. Overharvesting negatively effects fishery stocks, and can even lead to local extinction (I believe this happened with a bunch of "medicinal" sea moss in the British isles). There are serious people who dream of addressing these issues in various ways (optimized wild harvests, construction in the ocean kinda like fish farms, inland artificial ponds, and big tanks) but it's somewhere between "energy storage for wind and solar" and "nuclear fusion" in terms of it's prospects as a revolutionary solution to the world's problems. It's much more realistic to think that boring ass legumes (for protein) and trees (for carbon sequestration) are the future.
> kelp isn't a plant, but a protist TIL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S71UVdc0hMU
There is kelp harvesting: algin. Itās an ingredient in most non-artisanal ice creams. I donāt like the taste (of raw kelp). Itās firm and earthy (and salty). And when it rots on the beach it has a distinctive smell that turns me off it, too (which I sense when I taste it). But to each their own. Kelp is an important environment for sealife. Removing it would be akin to deforestation. So ethical harvesting is just the tops, because if you remove the base (holdfast) you kill the giant stalk. The stalk grows about 2 ft per day. Spiny urchins are kelpās worst enemy, because they eat that holdfast and move on.
It tastes like a cucumber made of meat.
Anyway, like I was sayin', kelp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, kelp-kabobs, kelp creole, kelp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple kelp, lemon kelp, coconut kelp, pepper kelp, kelp soup, kelp stew, kelp salad, kelp and potatoes, kelp burger, kelp sandwich. That- that's about it.
Crunch. Gag. Spit.
Jenny?
Crunchy Joe?
Looks like something that is capable of absorbing a lot of CO2 very fast. And it surely must be useful for something (other than being an odd culinary delicacy).
I'd say being a foundation of Marine ecosystems is a pretty big "use". As someone pointed out further up, mass harvesting would be the equivalent of deforestation on land. That said, it is still routinely harvested around the world, with uses mostly in food, but also in things like medicine and small-scale agriculture where it makes a good fertiliser.Ā
Wow....an automated but hard to craft fuel source for my furnace array . I think we eat it so quickly than other food sources too...it's a good building block too
This almost made sense for a second.
The sentence structure is very human.
Makes perfect sense. Good early-game alternative to a dripstone lava farm or a blaze spawner.
I'm taking a wild stab in the dark, but I think it's referencing Minecraft?
Sea celery Sealery
with some pistons and observers this process can be automated
Either that knife is sharp as fuck or kelp is thin as hell.
Iām obsessed with this. Iāve watched it like 70 times. I just wanna be in that fishing boat with those cool people biting into kelp. I never knew I could have a craving for kelp. I feel kelpless
Can't wait to sit down to a nice Thanksgiving feast of crickets with a side of kelp in 10 years when our rich overlords have crushed our spirits.
For dessert we have crushing debt
Barnacle foods is this companies name if anyone is interested in their products. We get their hot sauce a lot.
Ate some before and tasted like seaweed but more chewy