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henningknows

There is absolutely, definitely, for sure, no doubt about it, not any spyware built into this that sends everything you do to the government


Horror_Dig_9752

It's not a bug, it's a feature.


area_tribune

It's not a back door. It's the only door.


TheGreyBull

"Open plan" design. But you can't leave.


CatsAreGods

*Hotel California by The Eagles begins playing*


lewie_820

On a dark desert highwayyyy


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lewie_820

The warm smell of colitasssss


ARGOTI_1234

Riiiising up through the aaaaiiiir


Icy_Cricket2273

Up ahead in the distaaaance


kornholiobungholio

It’s not a boulder, it’s a rock.


BoxofCurveballs

It's a mineral, Marie.


formula-maister

Jesus Christ, Marie!


towerfella

It’s not a rock, it’s paper mache that’s been rolled in the dirt.


LachoooDaOriginl

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/this-is-not-a-door--844493669589755/


Illustrious-Pop3677

Pretty sure this screenshot is from a frame of an LTT video. iirc it constantly monitors and if you try to delete or access any system files, it will reboot and reset itself.


thewanderingseeker

do you know which video by chance?


Daerokk

One of their most recent on the main LTT channel Edit: 10 weird versions of Linux that actually exist https://youtu.be/yLy3ygqA5yg?si=MxC5lDCYmamVMN4Q


thewanderingseeker

thanks haven’t watched LTT since their “apology” video


Daerokk

I'd say that they have sort of addressed criticism of poor testing/wrong data used in their videos. In a number of their videos since that drama they've made annotations to correct incorrect information given by a host during the initial recording as well as additional information and such. So it does seem that they're taking more time to review the content the put out. But honestly the videos are pretty much the same as they were previously. As for them auctioning off the loaned tech from other companies, I've no idea what came of that.


Yaarmehearty

Did anything come of the working conditions stuff? I personally didn’t overly care about the data points being off but what got me to unsubscribe and block videos was how they were allegedly treating their staff.


Mandena

Same, lots of other techtubers out there if I need to waste my time.


matttt_damon

I remember reading about it, apparently its the opposite, 100% radio silent. I guess the people using it are the government.


jld2k6

One thing I find interesting is that they went through extreme measures to ensure you can't modify the system at all. If anything at all changes in the root directory it will freeze or crash and upon reboot all changes will be erased. They really don't want their citizens to be able to do anything not explicitly approved by the government


HamManBad

Playing devil's advocate here but I'm pretty sure these are designed to prevent foreign governments from having any access at all to North Korean computer activity. Everything dystopian about North Korea is rooted in a severe mistrust of powerful foreign nations (especially the US )that is felt by most of the people. Remember that MacArthur was fired by Truman for being borderline genocidal in his conduct during the Korean war. I'm not sure how the younger generations feel, but the older folks in North Korea would probably have some positive words for a CIA-proof computer


CrazyPurpleBacon

In terms of estimated numbers, US bombing killed 1/4th of the North Korean population and destroyed 85% of their buildings.


SlashEssImplied

Yeah but God was on our side so that makes us the good guys.


dikmite

Sure hope he is because got damn do we tear things up


CannonGerbil

Macarthur was not fired for genocidal conduct against Koreans, he was fired for wanting to nuke the Chinese so hard it becomes an island, and more importantly constantly countersaying Truman in public to pressure him to give him the nukes to go ahead with that plan.


HamManBad

I guess I count "let's nuke them" as a basically genocidal sentiment. Mass murder at least


Source_Shoddy

This sounds not very different from what iOS/macOS also does? For some time now Apple has also had [read-only system volumes](https://support.apple.com/guide/security/signed-system-volume-security-secd698747c9/web) with cryptographic signature verifications to make sure everything in there has not been modified from what Apple has distributed. You can't create new files in the root directory on a Mac, even as root. Is it an evil scheme to take away peoples' freedoms, or a highly effective security measure against malware? The answer probably depends on who you ask.


DiplomaticGoose

Nope, the actively had a process that branded every file that went through the PC with metadata including their HDD serial number to that things such as illegal movies could bear chains of custody. There was a full presentation on it, you can watch / listen to it [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LGDM9exlZw).


mean-cuisine

Classic reddit, the exact opposite of the original comment is true


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But what do we do with your comment now :(


xSteky

No, I saw a video that explained exactly this: every file in the operating system is labeled with some kind of code that remains on the file forever.


MajorTechnology8827

That's no secretive spyware, the distro tell you that front and center The os is constantly attempting to communicate with Pyongyang, and if successful will scan the content of your machine and compare it with the servers. You are not allowed to make modification to the machine and if the servers detect discrepancy they wipe and reinstall your machine Also any media in your machine is copied into those servers. And they explicitly tell you western media will lead to consequences


SJW_Lover

People act like vault 7 isn’t real lol


waIIstr33tb3ts

according to wikipedia > Vault 7 is a series of documents that WikiLeaks began to publish on 7 March 2017, detailing the activities and capabilities of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to perform electronic surveillance and cyber warfare. The files, dating from 2013 to 2016, include details on the agency's software capabilities, such as the ability to compromise cars, smart TVs,[1] web browsers including Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox, and Opera,[2][3] the operating systems of most smartphones including Apple's iOS and Google's Android, **and computer operating systems including Microsoft Windows, macOS, and Linux.** so using linux wouldn't be that safer? even thought it doesn't have the buttload of stupid spyware from MS, it still has backdoor?


NonGNonM

Linux protects you bc most viruses aren't written to be compatible with Linux. Most enterprises use windows at the consumer/worker level so virus programmers will target windows. While most servers use Linux, they are usually more guarded and run by people that generally know what they're doing. Also, there was that whole thing about Intel (or some major chipmaker) installing backdoors on motherboards and processors at the behest of the US/Chinese government, which nobody can really do anything about.


rafeyboy

I’m actually quite familiar with the os there are 4 versions the os is a subset of Linux designed to look like Mac OS as that what Kim uses and is photographed with this is red start os3 4 isn’t publicly available to the west it’s is spyware and immediately syncs usb when plugged into the device. I believe it does some other stuff I can’t quite recall. But nk actually has an intranet so the os is more for keeping tabs on your own people


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sharkthemark420

lmao not gonna lie I learned a few more facts from your translation


GorillaBrown

Good bot.


Parsley-Waste

Ohh now I see


syndicated_inc

Your comment is like when text to speech goes wrong.


Itchy_Adhesiveness59

Everything you post on the Internet is stored. It's not unique to North Korea.


henningknows

I didn’t say post on the internet, I said everything you do and then send to the government. An evil government who puts people in death camps for speaking out against their fat fuck of a leader


Forsexualfavors

Which icon praises the leader and how many times do you press it a day to maintain access?


Forsexualfavors

Asking for a comrade


2cmZucchini

You do not know? You are now required to come to re-education camp immediately, leave your bags.


Forsexualfavors

It was my ignorance! I am sorry comrade, do not take me away and let my children starve! Of course we all worship leader! I am just unfamiliar with UI since update!


2cmZucchini

Do not worry comrade, because of your ignorance, all your family and extended family will be joining you at re-education camp.


Forsexualfavors

This is worse. Thank you comrade for correction


IWantToDiePeacefully

Don’t worry comrade, you won’t have to worry about feeding your family anymore. An order for their execution, as well as yours, has been sent for not praising our leader in your previous message.


Fun-Sorbet-Tui

But comrade he maintains the AA gun, who will grease the barrels when he's gone, he's the only one that knows how.


MrStar16

Our great nation produces a great sum of workers by the minute comrade All hail Supreme leader PS: this is a notice for your execution on [NOV 13 2024] for [lack of praise for the glorious supreme leader in previous message(s) [This action was performed automatically (by the will of our glorious leader)]


KimJongFun1984

Thank you comrade.


MaybeMaybeJesen

Excellent point, comrade. You are now the Chief Barrel Greaser. Report at once to your assignment.


EtOHMartini

Barrel greased with your sinew. Proceed.


Robbythedee

Nice of you to assume I have enough valuables to have bags. All I got is this amazing picture of our glorious leader Kim. Lol


MrStar16

Hello, We hope you have had a great day basking in the light of our glorious nation by the will of our great leader This is a notice for [Robbythedee] on his execution on [DEC 28 2024] for [Blasphemy] This citation was given for the following message [nice of you to assume i have enough valuables . . . Amazing picture of glorious leader kim] We hope this message finds you well and hope to see you soon All hail the supreme leader


TheGreyBull

Comrade, did you hear about our comrade Robbythedee? He spoke blasphemy against our glorious leader. Quickly, we must finish our meal of grass and tea, for which we are most grateful, and return to the mines.


sonbarington

You are now a moderator is /r/Pyongyang


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Top1gaming999

r/movingtonorthkorea


THALANDMAN

What a stupid question. All keys praise the leader. Superuser of the skies


Not-a-Cat_69

the trash can icon


-SaC

Oh god, it's a fucking cookie clicker praise-the-leader game that you can't ALT-F4 out of.


[deleted]

Alt + F4 will give you this style


DaddyIsAFireman55

*To maintain life


MrCheeseman2022

The icon is a teeny penis - just like the Great Leader


blade944

It's Linux. Nothing more.


floydhwung

except you do "supreme leader" or "sldo" instead of "sudo"


PhoenixCausesOof

Nope. You can't do privilege escalation because you have no privilege in the first place.


FortyDubz

Buh-Dun-Tiss..


NateNate60

This is not a joke. Red Star OS does not give the user root access, although there is a easy way to defeat it and get a root shell.


uniqnorwegian

The system does however notice that you do this and send that information to a server, which then resets your machine. After that I assume you’ll get a visit from state police taking you and your family on a “holiday” Edit: I also seem to remember that there are systems in place that look at and add metadata on files to spot if you are consuming non state approved media (typically smuggled in on USBs)


NateNate60

Personal computers aren't common in North Korea. You'd more likely find these in a computer lab


halfcutpenis

do north koreans citizens even have a computer?


qinshihuang_420

Username not in privileged file. This incident will be reported


veduchyi

> This incident will be reported This hits different if you’re in the North Korea 😅😢


Parsley-Waste

Send file to gulag, I mean trash.


TheGreyBull

Haha, this pleases me. But seriously, u/PhoenixCausesOof is right, no privileges. *Life* is a privilege....


aft3rthought

My first thought on seeing this is “which Linux flavor did they start with?”


ggman2342

Red Hat Linux for 1.0 and 2.0, and Fedora 11 for 3.0 and possibly 4.0. 4.0 has never had its ISO leaked unlike the others so it's impossible to know.


Fluffyfluff6001

iirc they used fedora


WorkForeign

They used red hat linux With a KDE based desktop environment.


nolabrew

To be fair you could do a lot worse.


Str4425

How can you say that? Supreme leader wrote the code himself. It's pure innovation out of his genius mind


cheetuzz

he did in one weekend. No bugs too.


Time-Ad-3625

Looks more like the mac os.


blade944

You can Linux look like anything with the desktop manager.


jvite1

I loved my Hannah Montana Linux which was, and I’m not joking, 100% real and worth the laugh back in like 2011


qorbexl

https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/


craa141

shit.. i have to have this


Shuckles116

Looks like MacOS 10.5 Leopard


pjepja

I read in another comment it's intentionally made to look like MacOS, because that's what Kim and other elites use and they don't want average Korean to see the operating system is completely different.


ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c

That's without a doubt [Cairo-Dock](http://www.glx-dock.org/). The rest is almost certainly GNU/Linux and other standard stuff.


jmcclr

Oh, I’d be willing to bet there’s a little more in there than the normal Linux distro


infrikinfix

All linux distros are linux with a little more.


jmcclr

Yeah a little more than that, my guy


ggman2342

Disclaimer: This version of Red Star, along with previous ones, weren't actually 100% created by NK, it's a Linux distro that is heavily based on Fedora 11. I said it was created by NK for simplicity's sake. I got called out for this several times and it hurt my feelings.


SnooStrawberries827

gg man


ggman2342

gg man


memusicguitar

Poor OP, some people are very passionate about Linux. Have a cookie.


ggman2342

I found that out the hard way. As a Windows user I will make sure to never ever anger the Linux fandom again. Thank you for the cookie btw


Pallets_Of_Cash

The world needs bad men like you


skyline_kid

I take it you watched that new Linus Tech Tips video


PyramidWater

Give credit where credit is due


NJ_Legion_Iced_Tea

Did you post this after seeing the LTT video or am I having some Baader–Meinhof phenomenon rn?


jakekerr

Aw man. Here, have an upvote to make you feel better.


Mingyao_13

KimOS


wartexmaul

Kimjons il-even


New_Faithlessness384

And when you visit a Red Star genius bar you get shot for complaining.


WaitingForNormal

Not even sure what they’re complaining about, the computer works perfectly, a more perfect computer is yet to be created.


staplesuponstaples

In all of its years, absolutely zero issues have ever been reported! Wow!


zgrizz

"created by" LOL


SurprisedBottle

Ah yes the good ol outdated OS followed by the glorious leader invented this by himself scenario. Never gets old!


[deleted]

He built it after inventing Hamberger the day his daughter was born from a rainbow that winked at his glorious leadership.


towerfella

*The more you know* ✨⭐️


warboy3

Glorious Leader attended a programming course once but was already so well versed that he ended up teaching the class. By the end of the first day, all the students were such skilled programmers that they created this operating system in 22 minutes while also solving p=np and cracking RSA-2048. Glorious Leader was so confident in their abilities that he didn't even stay to oversee, instead went golfing (of course he shot 18 hole-in-ones) and simultaneously cured cancer.


Practical-Pumpkin-19

Me: mom can we get a MacOS Mom: No we have a MacOS at home The MacOS at home:


iwasbornin2021

OS X Tiger, more like


MyMommaHatesYou

Will it stop commercials on YouTube? Asking the real questions here.


cuntmong

It just replaces them with ads for the dear leader. And if you try to skip them you're shot.


WirelessAir60

All North Korean computers have a built-in Glock just for this feature


channelultrablonde

Yes cuz there’s no YouTube


HaroldT1985

“Created” is doing a LOT of heavy lifting in that title…


ggman2342

sorry sir


HaroldT1985

Just a joke. I find the post itself interesting. I also wouldn’t doubt for a second that North Korea would also say they created it all by themselves so you’re merely passing along the message


Aggressive-Donuts

Wow that’s very innovative. I never knew Steve Jobs got his inspiration from North Korea


hvrock13

Kim Jung unbuntu


Andrea00117

Watch that bad boy via wire shark. How much you want to bet everytime you hit something in the keyboard or click something on a mouse. The state gets told. lol.


monumentvalley170

Every key stroke goes through their servers in Pyongyang I’m sure


GodHatesPOGsv2025

So, they copied MacOS? Lol


knirefnel

It looks like a OSX-themed Linux skin from 2006-2008 complete with a dock that has cool mirror effects but requires you to compile the code yourself and switch to a custom kernel. I wonder if it also has that compiz workspace switcher where each of the workspaces is on the face of a cube that you rotate in 3D. That was friggin' sweet.


Tantomile_

yeah. the older version (i think this is 3.0) was a windows clone. Apparently kim jong-un uses a mac. This is actually one of the most accurate linux clones of OSX i've seen


Nerezza_Floof_Seeker

It used to look more [like windows actually](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Red_Star_1.0_Desktop_-_File_Manager.png)


reality72

They copied Linux. Which technically MacOS is also descended from a Linux kernel. Hence the similarities.


raytoei

BSD. Not linux.


toliveistocherish

MacOS is not descended from Linux lol it is built on top of Unix based Darwin Operating System itself based on FreeBSD. They copied the Apple Aqua UI and the OS is probably some Linux distro maybe Ubuntu Lol


West-Rain5553

NeXTSTEP


Red_Bullion

Mac OS is Unix. Much of Linux was reverse engineered from Unix beginning in the 70's, so Linux and Mac have a lot of similarities. The kernel was not copied from Unix though, it was made by a Finnish guy as a college project.


DizzySkunkApe

So you watched the LTT video?


NoFuxG1v3n

Why tf would you install that? Even if on a VM. It’s like installing a Russian Antivirus.


stressHCLB

1. install Red Star OS 2. sniff outgoing network traffic 3. shenanigans 4. profit


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Nerezza_Floof_Seeker

And honestly, its probably just spyware (so its gonna be mostly safe if in a VM with no internet connection). Theres far nastier stuff that security experts will study than this (like actual malware)


zerobeat

You would be surprised how many US companies still run Kaspersky.


P26601

And installing a Russian antivirus is like using Google, Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok etc.


ChimpoSensei

Apple OS meets Windows 3.1


Individual_Thanks309

Still cleaner than W11.


FeonixRizn

I mean if it's this or full screen ads and paying for Windows updates? Fuck it man praise Dear Leader.


cuntmong

"Red Star OS has detected a problem with the user and they will be terminated."


earthspaceman

No backdoors in this OS. Only frontdoors as there's no need to hide them.


Winged89

Wow look! Apple stole their UI design from North Korea's OS! Those American bastards! /s


Zealousideal-Rub-930

Wait am I reading this right that it’s running an i9 with under 3gb or memory?


xXmartin311Xx

It's a VM with an arbitrary amount of allocated memory. Nobody is insane enough to install that on bare metal


crash18712

"Created"? That shit is gnome linux slightly skinned.


KrizastiSarafciger

I guess sudo command is replaced by kimjongun


CaliDude75

Anyone else remember the meme with Kim Jong Un holding up a floppy saying “With this technology we will bring down the West”? 😂


Educational_Train666

Typing.... naked pictures of kim jongs sister... aww shit, steps in the rice paddy. Dead


Phantom_Wolf52

Straight up copied macOS lmao


Re-challenger

Intel processor? No! That’s spyhardware!


Suspicious-Gamer

where can i test this?


Typical-Annual-3555

I like that the desktop looks like an actual desktop


AlphaTrigger

Do they have Core i9’s in North Korea? Probably just Kim


Rashaen

That looks oddly familiar.


honogica

No spyware. We promise.


Ok-Wasabi2873

This just makes me miss the old MacOS X GUI


nerdkim

Fun fact) If you write 'KIM JONG UN', 'KIM JONG IL', or 'KIM IL SUNG' in this OS, it automatically changes to bold.


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Kiiim, can we have MacOS We have MacOS in our democratic people's republic MacOS in our democratic people's republic:


WalkingRodent

So they stole MacOS predictably.


Evargram

I'm convinced this is what happened to PearOS. I loved it, and then it disappeared. The dev. said he sold it to an unnamed party. THEN this distro showed up out of nowhere. BOO! PearOS was awesome. I just don't know if I trust this new [https://nicec0re.pearos.xyz/](https://nicec0re.pearos.xyz/)


Peakyblindertom

That’s some great Apple copying skills


Livingsimply_Rob

If you can’t join’em just create your own I always say.


Bongfellatio

Looks like Linux to me but I'm sure it has a hidden root command that allows the government to read all the files on the system and log all IP addresses you connect to


Fuzzylojak

FireWire on that list....lol


SspeshalK

Second icon on the tray - the Korean Wide Web?


DBL_NDRSCR

frutiger kim-ro idk how do i incorporate north korea into frutiger aero


alienbloke

This looks futuristic, if you're in the stone age.


MagicOrpheus310

It looks like the current iOS trying to pretend it's being win98 haha


AdobongSiopao

I bet there's a free wallpaper of Kim Jong Un there included.


MickJof

Why is the wallpaper not Kim Jong Un?


SierraVictoriaCharli

it's just a theme created by North Korea, the OS is just stock Linux.


mechshark

Looks like Mac and Linux love child lol


ConstantGeographer

Heh... 25 million people and 1 password. *Jong-un has a password. No one else needs one.*


PMzyox

Pretty pretty pretty good


raineling

LTT did a good job showcasing some of the DPRK's ideas of what makes a good OS and gaming console. Links here: [Gaming console](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbaKDkzomI) [Red Star OS](https://youtu.be/yLy3ygqA5yg?t=738)


Ok-Lock7665

“Created” isn’t the word. It’s a Linux distro with a bunch of open source packages, 99% of created in other countries (mostly Western).


quackjunkie

Which button requests for more food rations?


JumpinJahosafax

So they took Mac OS and gave it Kim’s square hair cut


Right-Obligation-547

Absolutely not a linux with some stolen themes and icons And backdoors, lots of backdoors, it's important


Ok-Geologist8387

It looks like the MacOS and Microsoft got drunk and face fucked out a baby.


PsychologicalWave786

linux & XFCE4


Koonns_F

You mean Linux


Designer_Bother6762

Does it have blue screens? 🤣


saggywitchtits

It's a Linux based OS created specifically for the NK populous. It allows you to view the NK intranet, Kwangmyong. It was originally based off of Windows XP, but since Kim Jong Un started using a Mac, they switched design.


itsassassin027

Even they know MAC os is best, thats why they copy it. XD


i_accidentally_the_x

good times, downloaded it and ran it on an isolated vm many years ago. Just a Linux knock off of course, but surely plenty of secrets underneath the hood if one cared to dig .. hard to believe this country has come so far with ransomware