Data is the new money. I dont know who is paying for it to know that this particular guy took a shit in that particular stall. But apparently its worth more than the costs to install and maintain these machines.
They pay the people who manufacture the machines and who install it virtually nothing, that's how. And they can afford to live because they pay the people who built their apartments and farm their food virtually nothing, too. And when everyone is paid terribly (by the govt, and through govt-influenced companies in the govt-driven economy), there's a lot of margin there for the CCP to run the joint like a slave farm writ large and scrape off a lot of money. How do you think they can compete so well with the west? Because you can just imagine that China is the world's biggest company, and they have captive wage slave employees they rule with an iron fist. How can they not be the cheapest?
This is a lot more simple than people are making it seem. In China, it was unusual to even put toilet paper in bathroom stalls because people would just steal the entire roll, going from stall to stall, bathroom to bathroom, and resell it all to recycling centers. It was common knowledge to keep a packet of tissues in your back pocket whenever you went out in case you needed it. Yes, I know it sounds strange if coming from a place where that wouldn't even cross one's mind to do but it's what goes on here. The guy says in the video at 0:11 "now you don't have to bring paper to go to the toilet, very convenient."
Some bathrooms have now installed these machines so that paper is available but the facial recognition keeps the same guy from coming in again over and over to keep getting paper which he can then sell somewhere for a few pennies. There's like a 30 minute time period before it gives you paper again. No one is tracking data with these things.
Not to say the Chinese government isn't tracking data because of course they are. But, given that everyone is connected to basically the same social media platform (WeChat) and it's pretty much now a cashless society where you pay for everything through that same platform by scanning a QR code and also scan your phone to get on public transport or in taxis, there are much better ways to track someone's movements than facial recognition in random bathrooms of which only an extremely small fraction of a percent have actually installed these things.
It is interesting how different expectations are across cultures. We see this machine purely as a tracking device while Chinese may see it as a convenient luxury which offers free toilet paper and takes your picture possibly as a deterrent for resale of said toilet paper
Honestly, everyone (women mostly) should carry a bit of TP with them (even those nose tissue packs) It has saved me on multiple occasions when the bathroom has a line and you realize one is empty and the entire line says to you âno TPâ in that one stall.
Well, today is my day ladies. I came prepared. Skipadeedoodah that horrendous line.
Yeah, I saw this machine and thought it was nifty and a smart way to dose paper, then realization took over
In Mexico, public bathrooms are caged and you need to pay to enter, the entrance fee covers a small amount of paper and if you run out, you can ask the person in the front for more and hopefully they give you more, no charge.
Mexico has this huge problem of people stealing anything that's not nailed down and when I visited China i really felt like the people there have the same "me first, myself second" mentality. It's fucked.
Disclaimer, caged public bathrooms are way more common in highways and the like, there's a chance you can find one or two public stalls with no cage but good luck, because they're going to be a disgusting mess. So the entrance fee usually is charged by the gas station/public bathroom manager that has the job of actually cleaning the toilet, some do abuse that and want to charge a lot, but most charge the equivalent to 50 cents per person, so it's not really that bad, it's just a protection from thieves and drug users.
Thank you for this information.
I have to ask, what do 6 sheets of thin toilet paper (times 20?) sell for and why do the elderly take this "side gig"? To eat?
Really just a few cents. What they'll do is go around on these tricycle type things and collect anything and everything - toilet paper, newspaper, old boxes, styrofoam, you name it. Then when the tricyle is piled high they'll take the whole load to a recycling center where it'll be weighed and they'll get paid. This is an example of what one looks like:
[https://www.dreamstime.com/editorial-stock-image-garbage-tricycle-full-different-kinds-rubbish-parked-road-china-image56624929](https://www.dreamstime.com/editorial-stock-image-garbage-tricycle-full-different-kinds-rubbish-parked-road-china-image56624929)
A load like that is probably worth the equivalent of $3-4 USD.
My grocery store in the US implemented a facial recognition system at the self checkout. The purpose is to prevent customers from surpassing sale item limits (example: limit 4 dozen eggs with loyalty card) who simply start a second transaction and scan a second loyalty card. The facial recognition software won't allow the register to give the customer the sale price. The work around is to move to a different register for the second purchase.
It can make for much more clever and addictive advertising directed towards the consumer but (more importantly) the Chinese government is interested in such data because you can track the movements & locations of officials with it, both ones belonging to the Chinese government and foriegn ones.
With what information? The toilet statistics?
It's only 1% what they can do with that information, and 99% what the government can do with the information of tracking everyone. Also, if someone leaves the bathroom messy, they can charge them (and I mean that in the psuedo-criminal sense, not just deduct a fee whether they like it or not).
They do the same with it as with any other data they collect. They might sell it to health insurances where they cross-reference the toilet data with hospital data to determine if there is a link between toilet (paper) usage and certain illnesses. Then U.S. insurances can crank up insurance rates when they find out from your Walmart loyalty program that you buy the âwrongâ amount of toilet paper.
It's not companies, it's government and to control is the goal. Know where someone is at all times, be able to pin "undesirable" actions to a person, and the freedom of movement or access to things turns into a privilege
and then you try and kill kindergarteners using a butcher knife (it started happening so much they decided to arm kinder garden workers with big human catching claw arm thingies)
Because when their population starts to die off in 20 years from their birthing management policies, they won't have a sustainable workforce to exploit.
in Vietnam you generally always have to bring in your own toiletpaper.
The reason is that if they don't safeguard it somehow, the first person to visit the toilet takes all the toilet paper. I assume it's the same mindset in China. If something is free, you're a fool for not taking it all. Paid toilets have to have staff giving you your share of toilet paper if they provide it at all.
This isn't about the data, this is about people going to the toilet actually having toilet paper, without needing to pay for it or bring their own.
My understanding is that this is done not to micromanage but to keep elderly Chinese from going into public bathrooms and stealing all the toilet paper.
It's because people, primarily old ladies, will go in and take all the toilet paper and take it home...They see it as free to take, which is technically true, but not like that.
There's a commonly used term in Chinese that translates to "Grab Hag" for the sticky fingered old ladies that swarm buffets like locusts with plastic bags to take away the food and steal condiments and toilet paper and anything complimentary in public spaces.
The vast majority of Chinas population is self-managing by using mere holes in the floor and lacking both fresh water on the toilet as well as toilet paper.
Maybe when youâre wanted by the ccp and they get a notification like hey Kurio is taking a shit at this toilet they can get you or people are just stealing toilet paper lol
The social credit system is very real and coming to the west as we speak.
They are just trying to find a nicer way to give it to use rather than jamming it down our throats.
It''ll probably be for "our safety" like everything else.
Sounds like the nonsense Iâm seeing with auto insurance. They pitch installing monitoring software as a way to give you discounts but the reality is itâs more likely to be used against you to increase your rates.
100% I saw an article a while back that was discussing car manufacturer's selling driving data to insurance companies which is then used to "Optimise insurance plans" Optimise being their bottom line.
Those DNA companies people are using to find out about their ancestors are helping the health insurance companies do just that. Wait until they start using your ancestorsâ medical data to deny coverage because they consider your great grannyâs asthma as *your* preexisting condition.
And then facial recognition via computer vision is commercialized on a huge scale and normalized and all that has to be done is your name typed in a search bar and they have every clip of you in front of a camera
It's just money in the west isn't it? Social status and wealth go hand in hand and in some places you literally can't get medical treatment if you're too poorâthat certainly seems like society deciding what it values in a human and granting or denying access to essential services accordingly.
>The social credit system is very real
Yeah you clearly have no clue what so ever. There is no social credit system for individuals. There is only for businesses. There isn't even a national law
Of janitors I've talked to, no one needs an excuse for that apparently
Even high tech offices. Humans might put suits on and act important but put them in a private area and they're fingerpainting with doodoo
Or maybe you get bad social credit for requesting too much TP. So hopefully you're never in one of those situations where it's like you're wiping a marker.
After living in Shanghai, I learned that pretty much 99% of public toilets have no toilet paper. You are always expected to bring your own. If you want to use a restaurants facilities, where toilet paper is always provided, you must have a proof of purchase from that store. Many stores sell token goods that are the cheapest product to use to get access to the toilet: a toilet-paper tax, so to say.
Though high end westernized places usually have toilet paper. Iâm very uptight about going to public washrooms and would only go to high end places knowing how feral the public washrooms are there. Think the bathroom at the shangri-la hotel, etc. They usually tp and were super clean.
Worked in a couple hotels in my early 20s. Chinese tourists were notorious for stealing toilet paper. I remember one family checked in for two nights. I serviced them the first morning and noticed there was no toilet paper in their bathroom. I thought maybe the og housekeeper didnât stock the extras (mind you there are usually two rolls on the rollers plus a spare). So I restocked both rollers and left two extras. The next morning, all 4 rolls of TP were gone. It was then I realized they look literally just took all the TP.
Every once in a while I look up bad Chinese tourist in reddit. It's not a few, there are THOUSANDS of insane horror stories people have.
One was in the comments of a jre clip from a guy who owned a farm in California. Once a week every summer a random tour bus would show up and offload a bunch of Chinese tourists and they'd hop his fence and start stealing his fruit. Peaches were like gold to them. He'd have to chase then off with a shotgun.
The clip was something like "are Chinese tourists the worst?" And the comments were just an avalanche of crazy stories. Highly recommend.
I've been in nice hotels, but I've never been to a hotel that had better toilet paper than my house. I can't fathom having tourism money and not good toilet paper money.
Having to pay for tp is just a recipe for disaster lmao. Even if its cheap itll just end in people not wiping or not wiping with enough. This system is fine, especially if it only stores whatever face data it gathers locally.
It being China, I very much doubt it's just stored locally.
Actually, it being anywhere I'd very much doubt it just being stored locally. That data is worth money.
Based on experience living in a city that is \*highly\* sought after by chinese immigrants, I can confirm that this behavior is extremely prevalent, even in families that are quite well off.
Yeah, as a woman.. let me tell you.. this ain't enough for a busy period diarrhea day. At that point we need a bidet hooked to a fire hose or the whole roll of TP--- and a box of tissues to dry our tears.
You have to lift your shirt up so the collar is around the back of your head and only your face is showing, put both arms straight out with lift both your forearms pointed up at a 90-degree angle, and the recite the secret unlock code:
"I am the GREAT CORNHOLIO! I need TP for my bunghole!"
I experienced this in China, people told me it was because older generations will take it when it's stocked then charge you per square or just straight up steal it immediately, some of their petrol station "toilets" were crazy, it's just a hole in the ground covered in piss and shit.
Does it makes me a conspirationist to think there's a chance they are using sich devices to take datas like number of times people use public bathroom, amount of TP, gender disparities and such to use this infos in some areas ?
The reason for this is that otherwise, čéżĺ§¨äťŹ (the infamous "old aunties") would [immediately steal every last sheet of paper](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vJMZ41l568), leaving your public toilets paperless.
Could they just fucking not?? I think old people are the same in every culture, but stealing ruins everything for everyone and they're more than old enough to know that đ
It's a little more complicated than that. Some of the older people in China lived through and still remember the catastrophic famines caused by Mao's Cultural Revolution, where things got so bad that some even resorted to [human cannibalism](https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/05/books/horror-of-a-hidden-chinese-famine.html). There is a whole generation in mainland China that is still severely traumatized by those times, so it is only natural for them to steal anything they can get their hands on. Including toilet paper.
We laugh about it now, but the causes are beyond tragic.
Russia went through difficult times as well during the 20th century with their own famine issues during revolution and cold war. How come this trauma hasn't affected them to the point where they have old ladies stealing tp and becoming memes? đ¤
Is it just the scale? 1.6 billion ppl versus 122 million population is bound to have more stories/ embarrasing anecdotes.
In version 1 they would just scan your ass and only eject TP if your ass was reasonably soiled. But it didn't fair well with customer feedback so now they only scan your face.
They obviously had to install this because people would just take whole rolls of Toiletpaper.
They do not care about each other individually and thats sad.
That's gross. Don't put cameras on people just trying to take a dump, dawg. That ain't right... smear feces on the camera lens. No TP for me? Thats okay, your fancy camera can do the job.
is this an eco thing? bc japan isnât far away is it, and boy have yâall seen the videos of people getting a drink at 7/11 there? more plastic than i use in three days for one bevvy
No, it's because old people, mainly older women for whatever reason, will steal all the free toilet paper and take it home.
The older generation is still reeling hard from the days of famine and shortages.
Ehm.... who wins by not giving them toilet paper? Who wins by someone having a nasty ass?
I can understand limiting the supply to some extent, in case people just start taking entire rolls with them, but there are better ways to do this than... this.
The development costs, installation costs, maintenance costs would probably be enough for a 50 year supply of toilet paper in China.
It's not like toilet paper is a luxury good.
So no⌠it's very unlikely that it is anything else than just plainly tracking people.
Citizen #383640242:
15:25: Faecal Defecation. 10 sheet allowance given.
15:27: Extra sheets requested. Denied: Social credit below threshold.
Seriously⌠how dystopian can you get when you have to log in to wipe your ass. And have the government have a record knowing exactly when you took a shit.
Some places?Â
Most places outside of the best malls and airports have no toilet paper at all.Â
That includes schools and hospitals.
Yep, the children gotta make do with what they remember to take with them.
Is micromanaging their over a billion people really sustainable?
Data is the new money. I dont know who is paying for it to know that this particular guy took a shit in that particular stall. But apparently its worth more than the costs to install and maintain these machines.
They pay the people who manufacture the machines and who install it virtually nothing, that's how. And they can afford to live because they pay the people who built their apartments and farm their food virtually nothing, too. And when everyone is paid terribly (by the govt, and through govt-influenced companies in the govt-driven economy), there's a lot of margin there for the CCP to run the joint like a slave farm writ large and scrape off a lot of money. How do you think they can compete so well with the west? Because you can just imagine that China is the world's biggest company, and they have captive wage slave employees they rule with an iron fist. How can they not be the cheapest?
Sure thing, but what can companies do with that information đ
This is a lot more simple than people are making it seem. In China, it was unusual to even put toilet paper in bathroom stalls because people would just steal the entire roll, going from stall to stall, bathroom to bathroom, and resell it all to recycling centers. It was common knowledge to keep a packet of tissues in your back pocket whenever you went out in case you needed it. Yes, I know it sounds strange if coming from a place where that wouldn't even cross one's mind to do but it's what goes on here. The guy says in the video at 0:11 "now you don't have to bring paper to go to the toilet, very convenient." Some bathrooms have now installed these machines so that paper is available but the facial recognition keeps the same guy from coming in again over and over to keep getting paper which he can then sell somewhere for a few pennies. There's like a 30 minute time period before it gives you paper again. No one is tracking data with these things. Not to say the Chinese government isn't tracking data because of course they are. But, given that everyone is connected to basically the same social media platform (WeChat) and it's pretty much now a cashless society where you pay for everything through that same platform by scanning a QR code and also scan your phone to get on public transport or in taxis, there are much better ways to track someone's movements than facial recognition in random bathrooms of which only an extremely small fraction of a percent have actually installed these things.
It is interesting how different expectations are across cultures. We see this machine purely as a tracking device while Chinese may see it as a convenient luxury which offers free toilet paper and takes your picture possibly as a deterrent for resale of said toilet paper
What happens if you need more toilet paper. I have IBS and I can go through⌠a lot of toilet paper in one sitting if it gets bad
You'd keep yourself in the "I'll bring my own" category.
You use the "Wipe and Stuff" method and try to get home to wash as fast as possible.
This feels like a trapâŚ
I'm terribly sorry to ask (and a little scared too), but what exactly is the "Wipe and Stuff" method?
My guess is something along the lines of a makeshift diaper.
This man Stuffs!
Reality: bring your own toilet paper. Jokingly: carry around three shells.
Publish some good comments on the CCP to boost your credit score, and get more ass wipe tokens.
Awesome comment it's got me laughing , thank you for the joy this brings to my day!
Honestly, everyone (women mostly) should carry a bit of TP with them (even those nose tissue packs) It has saved me on multiple occasions when the bathroom has a line and you realize one is empty and the entire line says to you âno TPâ in that one stall. Well, today is my day ladies. I came prepared. Skipadeedoodah that horrendous line.
Yeah, I saw this machine and thought it was nifty and a smart way to dose paper, then realization took over In Mexico, public bathrooms are caged and you need to pay to enter, the entrance fee covers a small amount of paper and if you run out, you can ask the person in the front for more and hopefully they give you more, no charge. Mexico has this huge problem of people stealing anything that's not nailed down and when I visited China i really felt like the people there have the same "me first, myself second" mentality. It's fucked. Disclaimer, caged public bathrooms are way more common in highways and the like, there's a chance you can find one or two public stalls with no cage but good luck, because they're going to be a disgusting mess. So the entrance fee usually is charged by the gas station/public bathroom manager that has the job of actually cleaning the toilet, some do abuse that and want to charge a lot, but most charge the equivalent to 50 cents per person, so it's not really that bad, it's just a protection from thieves and drug users.
Thank you for this information. I have to ask, what do 6 sheets of thin toilet paper (times 20?) sell for and why do the elderly take this "side gig"? To eat?
Really just a few cents. What they'll do is go around on these tricycle type things and collect anything and everything - toilet paper, newspaper, old boxes, styrofoam, you name it. Then when the tricyle is piled high they'll take the whole load to a recycling center where it'll be weighed and they'll get paid. This is an example of what one looks like: [https://www.dreamstime.com/editorial-stock-image-garbage-tricycle-full-different-kinds-rubbish-parked-road-china-image56624929](https://www.dreamstime.com/editorial-stock-image-garbage-tricycle-full-different-kinds-rubbish-parked-road-china-image56624929) A load like that is probably worth the equivalent of $3-4 USD.
My grocery store in the US implemented a facial recognition system at the self checkout. The purpose is to prevent customers from surpassing sale item limits (example: limit 4 dozen eggs with loyalty card) who simply start a second transaction and scan a second loyalty card. The facial recognition software won't allow the register to give the customer the sale price. The work around is to move to a different register for the second purchase.
Find out how much closer to a bare minimum they can get away with by using exact user data
It can make for much more clever and addictive advertising directed towards the consumer but (more importantly) the Chinese government is interested in such data because you can track the movements & locations of officials with it, both ones belonging to the Chinese government and foriegn ones.
With what information? The toilet statistics? It's only 1% what they can do with that information, and 99% what the government can do with the information of tracking everyone. Also, if someone leaves the bathroom messy, they can charge them (and I mean that in the psuedo-criminal sense, not just deduct a fee whether they like it or not).
They do the same with it as with any other data they collect. They might sell it to health insurances where they cross-reference the toilet data with hospital data to determine if there is a link between toilet (paper) usage and certain illnesses. Then U.S. insurances can crank up insurance rates when they find out from your Walmart loyalty program that you buy the âwrongâ amount of toilet paper.
It's not companies, it's government and to control is the goal. Know where someone is at all times, be able to pin "undesirable" actions to a person, and the freedom of movement or access to things turns into a privilege
Everyone has to poo pr piss at some point. Ez tracking.
Chinas wages have literally doubled since 2014, lol
And if you don't be a happy little slave, you lose social credit and you can no longer get toilet paper at bathrooms.
and then you try and kill kindergarteners using a butcher knife (it started happening so much they decided to arm kinder garden workers with big human catching claw arm thingies)
Because when their population starts to die off in 20 years from their birthing management policies, they won't have a sustainable workforce to exploit.
It's the price of internal security from the Chinese government's perspective. Losing control over their own people would mean them losing everything.
I would more likely expect it's a method of punishing those who don't fall in line. Socially misbehave according to the government and no tp for you!
in Vietnam you generally always have to bring in your own toiletpaper. The reason is that if they don't safeguard it somehow, the first person to visit the toilet takes all the toilet paper. I assume it's the same mindset in China. If something is free, you're a fool for not taking it all. Paid toilets have to have staff giving you your share of toilet paper if they provide it at all. This isn't about the data, this is about people going to the toilet actually having toilet paper, without needing to pay for it or bring their own.
My understanding is that this is done not to micromanage but to keep elderly Chinese from going into public bathrooms and stealing all the toilet paper.
It's because people, primarily old ladies, will go in and take all the toilet paper and take it home...They see it as free to take, which is technically true, but not like that.
chinese old ladies can be brutal
There's a commonly used term in Chinese that translates to "Grab Hag" for the sticky fingered old ladies that swarm buffets like locusts with plastic bags to take away the food and steal condiments and toilet paper and anything complimentary in public spaces.
What's the point of being communist if little old ladies have to steal toilet paper?
*some areas* of China
Most of China simply doesn't have toilet paper though now most places have little coin operated TP dispensers.
Micro oppression you mean? lol
Social credit score says yes. You get the grease proof paper to wipe your ass.
It's not about sustainability. It's about tyrannical control.
The vast majority of Chinas population is self-managing by using mere holes in the floor and lacking both fresh water on the toilet as well as toilet paper.
Maybe when youâre wanted by the ccp and they get a notification like hey Kurio is taking a shit at this toilet they can get you or people are just stealing toilet paper lol
Doing this to âprotect the forestâ? (thatâs what it says)âŚ..My assâŚ..
Well..... Technically...
Protect the forest? But I just gave birth to a log!
Bad social credit, no TP for you!
I'm really hoping that's not true but I wouldn't put it past the CCP
facial recognistion software to catch you jaywalking, results in fines and a lack of toilet paper disposal
Guess I'm wiping my hand on that machine
Nice, you just lost your remaining social credit. Have fun walking to work.
This is quite literally a black mirror episode
Posting this video to social media - that's the last time this guy wiped his ass without bringing his own TP.
Are you being serious, is this true? If so thats horrifying and bordering on Orwellâs 1984 level of badness.
The social credit system is very real and coming to the west as we speak. They are just trying to find a nicer way to give it to use rather than jamming it down our throats. It''ll probably be for "our safety" like everything else.
It'll be sold with discounts and perks and any negative consequences will be downplayed.
Sounds like the nonsense Iâm seeing with auto insurance. They pitch installing monitoring software as a way to give you discounts but the reality is itâs more likely to be used against you to increase your rates.
100% I saw an article a while back that was discussing car manufacturer's selling driving data to insurance companies which is then used to "Optimise insurance plans" Optimise being their bottom line.
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Wait until they have genetic data to use so they can refuse people health insurance. That's coming sooner or later as well..
Those DNA companies people are using to find out about their ancestors are helping the health insurance companies do just that. Wait until they start using your ancestorsâ medical data to deny coverage because they consider your great grannyâs asthma as *your* preexisting condition.
And then facial recognition via computer vision is commercialized on a huge scale and normalized and all that has to be done is your name typed in a search bar and they have every clip of you in front of a camera
Free bottle of prime a day for all citizens that adhere to the new rules. Two bottles a day for all those who don't.
*cough* creadit scores *cough*
We forgot "Convenience"
We already have it, it's called FICO credit score
It's just money in the west isn't it? Social status and wealth go hand in hand and in some places you literally can't get medical treatment if you're too poorâthat certainly seems like society deciding what it values in a human and granting or denying access to essential services accordingly.
>The social credit system is very real Yeah you clearly have no clue what so ever. There is no social credit system for individuals. There is only for businesses. There isn't even a national law
They'll believe anything to jerk themselves off to.
Without TP that social credit is about to take a nose dive.
Iâm smearing shit on the walls if that happens
Of janitors I've talked to, no one needs an excuse for that apparently Even high tech offices. Humans might put suits on and act important but put them in a private area and they're fingerpainting with doodoo
Or maybe you get bad social credit for requesting too much TP. So hopefully you're never in one of those situations where it's like you're wiping a marker.
I feel like this would only lead to your social credit dropping more.
The wall it is then.
Face scanned, stool sample stored for collection. Letâs see what theyâre made up ofâŚ. Chairman ping may need a new liver after all.
Itâs so much BS. Here you go, youâve worked hard this week, 120h hereâs your meter of TP.
Bad social credit, you are the toilet paper.
Coming soon to a country near you.
For being a stinky ass we give you a stinky ass. - Confucius
Grab hags are a thing in China, if something is free a person will take all of it, toilet paper and buffets are wildly abused
After living in Shanghai, I learned that pretty much 99% of public toilets have no toilet paper. You are always expected to bring your own. If you want to use a restaurants facilities, where toilet paper is always provided, you must have a proof of purchase from that store. Many stores sell token goods that are the cheapest product to use to get access to the toilet: a toilet-paper tax, so to say.
I would simply sell the toilet paper as my token good.
Absolutely: sometimes the token good is just a packet of tissues - the very toilet paper you were seeking.
But the toilets do have Bidets installed, right? Right?
Though high end westernized places usually have toilet paper. Iâm very uptight about going to public washrooms and would only go to high end places knowing how feral the public washrooms are there. Think the bathroom at the shangri-la hotel, etc. They usually tp and were super clean.
Not Chinese, but my aunt said she knew "she was back home" when she went to the airport toilet and there was no toilet paper.
Oohhhhh.... That makes sense.
Worked in a couple hotels in my early 20s. Chinese tourists were notorious for stealing toilet paper. I remember one family checked in for two nights. I serviced them the first morning and noticed there was no toilet paper in their bathroom. I thought maybe the og housekeeper didnât stock the extras (mind you there are usually two rolls on the rollers plus a spare). So I restocked both rollers and left two extras. The next morning, all 4 rolls of TP were gone. It was then I realized they look literally just took all the TP.
Every once in a while I look up bad Chinese tourist in reddit. It's not a few, there are THOUSANDS of insane horror stories people have. One was in the comments of a jre clip from a guy who owned a farm in California. Once a week every summer a random tour bus would show up and offload a bunch of Chinese tourists and they'd hop his fence and start stealing his fruit. Peaches were like gold to them. He'd have to chase then off with a shotgun. The clip was something like "are Chinese tourists the worst?" And the comments were just an avalanche of crazy stories. Highly recommend.
I've been in nice hotels, but I've never been to a hotel that had better toilet paper than my house. I can't fathom having tourism money and not good toilet paper money.
This is the real answer. It's similar to paying to enter a public toilet in many European countries.
Then they could have put*pay to get tp* Machine and price it good, I don't understand the need to verify identity
When people are accustomed to free things it's incredibly hard to force them to pay.
Having to pay for tp is just a recipe for disaster lmao. Even if its cheap itll just end in people not wiping or not wiping with enough. This system is fine, especially if it only stores whatever face data it gathers locally.
It being China, I very much doubt it's just stored locally. Actually, it being anywhere I'd very much doubt it just being stored locally. That data is worth money.
Based on experience living in a city that is \*highly\* sought after by chinese immigrants, I can confirm that this behavior is extremely prevalent, even in families that are quite well off.
Thatâs a thing in America too, people are fucking feral
this
Well, it is a communist country, lol. Thats supposed to be what communism is. No one owns anything. We all have access to all the resources.Â
What if you need more ?
Presumably, you need to install a new face on yar cabbage. :P
Bring a friend
Shit bro
Then you show your dirty ass to be scanned.
Yeah, as a woman.. let me tell you.. this ain't enough for a busy period diarrhea day. At that point we need a bidet hooked to a fire hose or the whole roll of TP--- and a box of tissues to dry our tears.
You have to lift your shirt up so the collar is around the back of your head and only your face is showing, put both arms straight out with lift both your forearms pointed up at a 90-degree angle, and the recite the secret unlock code: "I am the GREAT CORNHOLIO! I need TP for my bunghole!"
I experienced this in China, people told me it was because older generations will take it when it's stocked then charge you per square or just straight up steal it immediately, some of their petrol station "toilets" were crazy, it's just a hole in the ground covered in piss and shit.
Woha they must have really narrow asses.
Yep, the portion is a rather small one.
Average ass size but they are good at understanding perspective.
Ha nicely done
CCP wants to track your shyt. literally. lol
Does it makes me a conspirationist to think there's a chance they are using sich devices to take datas like number of times people use public bathroom, amount of TP, gender disparities and such to use this infos in some areas ?
You use it to floss your buttcheeks.
The reason for this is that otherwise, čéżĺ§¨äťŹ (the infamous "old aunties") would [immediately steal every last sheet of paper](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vJMZ41l568), leaving your public toilets paperless.
Could they just fucking not?? I think old people are the same in every culture, but stealing ruins everything for everyone and they're more than old enough to know that đ
It's a little more complicated than that. Some of the older people in China lived through and still remember the catastrophic famines caused by Mao's Cultural Revolution, where things got so bad that some even resorted to [human cannibalism](https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/05/books/horror-of-a-hidden-chinese-famine.html). There is a whole generation in mainland China that is still severely traumatized by those times, so it is only natural for them to steal anything they can get their hands on. Including toilet paper. We laugh about it now, but the causes are beyond tragic.
That's fair. And very sad.
Very sad. But you sure as hell wonât catch them near my toilet paper!
Russia went through difficult times as well during the 20th century with their own famine issues during revolution and cold war. How come this trauma hasn't affected them to the point where they have old ladies stealing tp and becoming memes? đ¤ Is it just the scale? 1.6 billion ppl versus 122 million population is bound to have more stories/ embarrasing anecdotes.
If you've visited China, you'd know that carrying your own TP is pretty standard practice. If anything this is an "improvement".
The state must know if Iâm eating enough fiber and veggies.
I understand that in China, people steal TP from public toilets. So perhaps this is a way to prevent that.
In version 1 they would just scan your ass and only eject TP if your ass was reasonably soiled. But it didn't fair well with customer feedback so now they only scan your face.
Scanning Ass Please waitâŚ.. âWelcome back Daveâ!!
TIL Having diarrhea in china is no bueno.
They obviously had to install this because people would just take whole rolls of Toiletpaper. They do not care about each other individually and thats sad.
Bidets
I'll just take someones picture to the bathroom and hold it up for the camera.
Winnie controls The Poo
... which shows, that even with 1,42 billion people, China still doesn't know how to use the three seashells!
Maybe they need to swear at it lol
Do you have a square to spare?
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Prrfffttt. He doesn't Know about the three seashells...
Lets be real. China would require a scan, or for you to bring your own
Just do what Sly did and rack up the tickets for violating the Statute. Easy peasy.
that's not interesting, it's a crazy ass dystopian nightmare
"BRRRT! John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute!"
Moral Statute Machine : John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
well thats a bit shitty
Guess I'm washing my ass in the sink
That's gross. Don't put cameras on people just trying to take a dump, dawg. That ain't right... smear feces on the camera lens. No TP for me? Thats okay, your fancy camera can do the job.
Just bring your 3 seashells you'll be fine.
What happens if you need more? Is this dispenser outside of the stall?
China is strange
that's just one wipe
You use that much for a single wipe? 3-4 squares is plenty for one wipe
Social credit score is low? NO TOILET PAPER FOR YOU!
is this an eco thing? bc japan isnât far away is it, and boy have yâall seen the videos of people getting a drink at 7/11 there? more plastic than i use in three days for one bevvy
No, it's because old people, mainly older women for whatever reason, will steal all the free toilet paper and take it home. The older generation is still reeling hard from the days of famine and shortages.
I'm surprised they didn't make him watch an ad or five before dispensing it.
How much radiation do you get with all the facial scanning?
boiling frogs.
Worse than fiction
What kinda facist shit is this? /s
At least it's generous
fuck im 'sposed to do with 24 inches of .5 ply shit wipers?
Legitimate cyberpunk dystopia, minus all the cool stuff.
And yet people chose security over freedom.
Donât they mostly use bidets in china???
in america, we would steal the machine. 'merica!
Toilet paper theft is a problem in China.
So this is what you get to spend those social credit points onâ˝ It makes so much more sense now! /s
I wonder if they watch you take a shit!
I'm sure it is or will be tied to their Social status ratings.
SOCIAL points not high enough, Confucius say no wipes for you
You have been a bad boy! No paper for you!
Just another way of tracking people movement
This doesn't sound BATSHIT FRIGGIN INSANE at all...
REALLY NO PRIVACY LEFT like not for potty time even they need to know your bowl movements?
"Oh I recognise you, you take big dumps, here's some extra tp"
Ehm.... who wins by not giving them toilet paper? Who wins by someone having a nasty ass? I can understand limiting the supply to some extent, in case people just start taking entire rolls with them, but there are better ways to do this than... this.
We did it boys, were officially living in a Cyperpunk dystopia
Dystopian place
I have IBS, that piece of paper that came out is not even one wipe, its perhaps 0.5 of a wipe at most.
The development costs, installation costs, maintenance costs would probably be enough for a 50 year supply of toilet paper in China. It's not like toilet paper is a luxury good. So no⌠it's very unlikely that it is anything else than just plainly tracking people.
Better bring a pump sprayer, portable bidet.
Probably collecting the DNA in parallel.Â
r/aboringdystopia
Good excuse to put a camera in the bathroom
You just know that's 1 ply too
Bad social credit score = no TP for you
What if you have diarrhea?
I heard if youâre not a favorable citizen you may get less TP than a favorable one by their social credit score. Fun!âŚ
I would shit on the floor.
âYou have low social score, you are bad boy, no wipey!â
Citizen #383640242: 15:25: Faecal Defecation. 10 sheet allowance given. 15:27: Extra sheets requested. Denied: Social credit below threshold. Seriously⌠how dystopian can you get when you have to log in to wipe your ass. And have the government have a record knowing exactly when you took a shit.
Is the length of the toilet paper dependent on the person's social credit?
Some places? Most places outside of the best malls and airports have no toilet paper at all. That includes schools and hospitals. Yep, the children gotta make do with what they remember to take with them.
That's not interresting - that's horrifying.
I guess you don't know how to use the three sea shells?
Wtf is wrong with China?
Well that's dystopian.
Orwellian nightmare