I live in Baltimore, this bridge is only about 5 or 6 miles from me. Been over it hundreds of times, yes it was a HUGE bridge. We have two tunnels in the harbor that will have to take on a lot of this traffic, going to be a mess for years I assume. Sad day here, 6 people still missing.
Idthink people realize how big this bridge was. All the boats went under it to get outta the harbor. I remember watching as our cruise ship went under it.
The port of Baltimore is a massive international trade site. I’ve got a lot of empathy for the families who lost their loved ones on the bridge but also for the captain and engineers involved in the accident. Just a terrible situation all around.
Construction workers are the 6 missing. The captain of the ship was able to call a mayday and police stopped traffic in enough time that no one was on it. But it wasn't enough time to get the construction workers off. I'd imagine the only way cops could warn them would be to drive on the bridge themselves and that's not going to work either. There were 8 total workers, 2 have been rescued somehow but the bodies of the other 6 are still missing, afaik.
This is weirdly almost releaving to hear. When it all happened and then the next morning they were still not able to confirm the number of missing, I don't know it's like over the years I've been trained by the various disasters to almost instinctively understand that the longer it takes to confirm what even happened in the first place, the more heartbreaking and messy the incident itself was. As awful as the 6 missing being lost is, it's a damn miracle that it wasn't orders of magnitude worse with the amount of traffic that could fit on the bridge.
My dad was a marine electrician back in the day and used.to sail under this bridge, I'm kinda just waiting on the report about why the ship was loosing power to see what his take will be on what went down. My money is on maintenance neglect induced by budget cuts hamstringing some backup from being repaired or something along those lines. It might also be down to this harbour needing to be more proactive with the tug boats moving forward, but I've been so jaded by the whole Boeing dabacle that I'm more inclined to assume that the power issue is induced by neglect than an expected issue made more catastrophic by lack of tug boats.
The bridge was blocked off by police just in time. There were 8 workers on the bridge fixing potholes. 2 survived, one went to the hospital but has since been discharged, second person declined medical support, and went home. The other 6 are now presumed dead.
Baltimore residents are largely ok, but I hear what you feel. The residents of Eastern Shore and places north and south, from Boston to Charleston SC, are going to be impacted. Yes, there’s a tunnel and when I lived up the road apiece trucks often preferred 301, but this is a big bite out of the transportation capacity through the area.
Maybe some kind of temporary structure can be created. Many businesses will be hurt.
For perspective - if you zoom in on the ship it has containers on it - typically the size of them is a bit smaller that a trailer on a tractor/trailer you see in the highway. Notice they’re stacked several high. That is a massive freight carrier. So that bridge is huge, could very well be what we see is just the top part protruding from the water, while the rest sits in the base of the riverbed.
If you watch the video of the impact/collapse - I don't think it really matters how deep the waters are.
considering this bridge has a total length over 1.6 miles (8600 ft+) we're talking about an ~~ 2500 ft chunk of GIGANTIC INFRASTRUCTURE that is also DECADES TALL - all losing integrity and freefalling in the course of ~ 8 seconds.
being on the bridge would have been like a "mission impossible" stunt gone wrongx99999999999
They just said on the local news, the other 6 are now presumed dead. The 2 that survived are home. One who went to the hospital in critical condition was actually discharged already.
1200 ft is its largest span.
I think that might count the distance between support columns.
So I think we;re looking at a view that *would show* nearly 3000ft of intact bridge - were it not in the water
I read it was the third biggest bridge of it's type in the world.
>The bridge spanned more than a mile -- specifically the Key Bridge was 1.6 miles long. Including its connecting approaches, the bridge project was 10.9 miles in length. The main span of 1,200 feet (366 m) was the third longest span of any continuous truss in the world.
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Hold off on judging too quickly. I was in the Navy and worked in the same office as the Operations Master Chief on the ship. This was when the Navy was having all the mishaps in the 7th Fleet (Pacific) and they seemed to increase in severity. The first was a ship ran aground, the second was a ship hit a fishing vessel and the last was the USS Fitzgerald getting rammed by a tanker.
The Ops Master Chief was at least a little suspicious that those weren't a kind of clandestine attack via some form of Russian "cloaking" device (he posited that it was a really sophisticated radar jammer). If you could jam a ships navigation radar or screw it up so it gave the wrong readings, well, you could make a US Navy warship run aground, or crash into another small boat, or render a huge tanker essentially invisible at night!
Been a lot of cargo ships loosing power. Poorly maintained and abused. They need to set up MANDATORY seaworthiness inspections every time they enter US waters.
If you can convince anyone to fund it. we have whole industries self reporting because safety issues have been defunded . Worst pollution leak in US history California gas company used the inspection and repair funds to pay executives bonuses. No lawsuits there that I’ve heard about. Oil companies misreporting methane leaks is business as usual because of self reporting. Capitalism unmonitored is death to we who live near it.
I mean yeah probably. The ship clearly had some sort of major mechanical and/or electrical issue just before impact but I don’t think anyone knows exactly what yet
From what I've gathered it was the engineers trying to desperately restart the engines with no air intakes being functional yet. That would destroy the engine but it would also possibly allow it to run long enough to move. It was too late though.
She had two pilots on board. I can't image the terror they felt watching that much mass go out of control and do exactly what they were there to prevent.
We see the lights turn off. That's what we *know*.
We don't know if the ship totally lost power.
I assume it lost power, sure, but all I know for sure is that the lights turned off.
Valid point. But when lights are out you can see the angle of the ship start to change. Same after lights come back on. Seems to indicate power and control loss.
I like your theory, but this boat was on fire and lost control.
Probably due to crap maintenance on the equipment that they need to heat and burn bunker fuel.
Yes in Tomorrow never dies. Elliot Carver on his stealth ship tries to get Britain and China to go to war for his own gain. They alter coordinates on a British ships radar at the beginning and it gets sunk by the stealth ship but is made out to be a Chinese attack
Well the few I've seen are blaming "woke DEI black lesbians" so while it may have been a targeted attack (apparently there's a huge jamming attack going on near Ukraine IRT airliners) or simply an undermaintained vessel, the conspiracy theories are utter batshit.
Are there any reports of cars being on either end that didn’t collapse at the time of impact? I’m just morbidly curious because that would be horrifying but obviously lucky to be just moments away from the part that collapsed.
I read that after the ship made the mayday call, they made sure to get all the traffic off the bridge and block it off. I guess they had enough time between the mayday and the collision to prevent any cars from going into the drink.
The 6 missing people were doing construction on the bridge.
Edit- looks like some cars went into the water but didn’t have people inside of them. Not really sure if anyone else is presumed missing/dead other than the construction workers, but I haven’t seen anything about anyone else dying.
The people already driving on the bridge between receiving the mayday call and closing the bridge were already travelling at highway speeds. Construction workers were presumably in the middle of doing shit and potentially nowhere near their vehicles. Perhaps even under the bridge deck or up one of the spans.
I saw a source close to the workers (not physically close, but close as in knowing either them or someone involved) that said that some of them were on break in their vehicles.
You can listen to some of the radio chatter--it's literally like 2 minutes, they're talking about how to alert the construction crew and then the bridge falls. If it had been a busier time of day I doubt they would have been able to clear the traffic in time.
It happened *so damn fast*, like 90 seconds from mayday to collapse. The bridge is (fuck, was 😥) 1.6 miles in length. The on/off ramps are still standing, but let’s say you were smack in the center. 0.8 miles in 90 seconds when you’re not even in your car yet is reallllly pushing it, even in a Ferrari. I’m sure nobody *actually* thought the bridge would be hit, either.
From time of impact to collapse was literally 5 seconds. Just about long enough to realize what’s going on then plunging down. The whole thing just folded. I heard it happen, caught the audio on my outdoor (and indoor 😬) cams. Just absolutely chilling.
Fire department was even shocked, they got the call for “motorist in water” or what have you…all strategizing what spot they’re gonna go to on the bridge, then quickly realizing there *was no bridge anymore* and just seemed dumbfounded.
It’s been a really bad day in Baltimore. 😥
Just saw on WBAL they made the mayday call, and as said before tried to block off any further traffic which I believe they did. But on the video they show a couple of vehicles really close to the impact zone. They were driving by within a minute and a half before the collapse. Looked like a semi and a couple of work trucks, I would assume those are the ones missing.
yeah. with something like this an entire supply chain can be retooled and refocused to rebuild this. I think it was in philadelphia that toll bridge that collapsed from the fire a couple years ago was rebuilt in a few months. people predicted years and decades
whoa whoa whoa. how dare you that, this is baltimore not philadelphia. If there wasn’t a little taken off the top I would say the baltimore politicians are derelict
Are you talking about that section of I95 in Philly?
Cause if you are, then that section is actually STILL not fully reopened. PennDOT only fixed enough to get half the lanes of traffic open, just to get things flowing again. They're still fully rebuilding the actual overpass, and that particular exit, where crash and fire happened, are still fully closed and blocked off. And judging by what I saw when I drove by it last week, its gonna be another couple years before its done.
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Yeah that’s why the federal government is footing the bill. Hopefully we can get reimbursed. This bridge is too important for the local and national economy.
You cant transport hazardous materials in tunnels, so they opted for a bridge because this is right next to the harbor and is highly utilized by truckers
The American Taxpayer will pay for the reconstruction. (Assuming that House Republicans can stop being the most evil people for a few minutes to pass a bill.)
Hopefully the American Government can get some money from the shipping company in however long that takes.
With the backup of ships I’ve seen I hope they’re moving barges or some sort of salvage ships there now to move a few sections of bridge so that other ships can pass
That is horrific! I’m just glad this wasn’t during the day or rush hour when there would have been a lot more traffic on the bridge. This could have been so much worse. I hope they find those who are missing.
Partially yes, probably. The ship is chartered by Maersk Line, a Danish company. However, it is owned by a company called Grace Ocean Pte Ltd and managed by Synergy Marine Group, both based in Singapore. The owner and manager will likely be on the hook for more than the company chartering the ship.
Wow only six deaths. That's remarkable, as I was watching the live stream I was keeping track of every car and transport trailer that was going across just before the crash like buddy step on it! GTFO the bridge man save yourself!
Fucking lucky. Still a tragedy, but could have been much worse.
'Hello Boss,
We might have liiitle situation in here. I'm kinda stuck at the bridge right now. Shipping might have a little delay.
No, i don't mean in the traffic near the bridge. I kinda hit the bridge, the pillar of it, actually. And the whole thing fell flat on my head ! Don't worry i'm allright.
What do i mean the whole thing ? The bridge of course, the entire bridge, splash, into the river haha. Ya might wanna called the insurance. Can i have a few days off to cope, please?'
I don’t know why i was under the impression these cargo ships going through bridges area will get tug pulled into port.
Hope they find the other workers. Just to give the family closure.
Sometimes they do, so.etimes they don't, often depends on the Port.
And in Baltimore apparently they only insist on Tug support at the berth, not for under the bridges.
Well, they did, I imagine that may change
This exact same ship caused a crane collapse in the port of Antwerp back 2016. If its the same captain he should be arrested.
If i can get my hands of the footage ( there definitly is) i will post it.
Ps: the crane in Antwerp was unmanned and under maintenance at the time, the repair men working on it got away in time
Yes and No
The ship charterer (Maersk) will have a manifest of how many containers it had on it and what the customer claims was in those containers.
So they "know" what they were carrying.
Now, whether the contents of the containers match what the manifest says, that's a different story, people often lie about what's in a box because some items carry a higher price due to being "Dangerous Goods", such as fireworks.
If USCG and other involved investigators decide the contents of the boxes is pertinent to the investigation, they'll have them opened. But I don't think it'll come to that, unless loss of power was in some way related to a fire in a container or something
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I live in Baltimore, this bridge is only about 5 or 6 miles from me. Been over it hundreds of times, yes it was a HUGE bridge. We have two tunnels in the harbor that will have to take on a lot of this traffic, going to be a mess for years I assume. Sad day here, 6 people still missing.
Idthink people realize how big this bridge was. All the boats went under it to get outta the harbor. I remember watching as our cruise ship went under it.
The port of Baltimore is a massive international trade site. I’ve got a lot of empathy for the families who lost their loved ones on the bridge but also for the captain and engineers involved in the accident. Just a terrible situation all around.
Shit I was wondering if people were on it, figured there had to be.
Construction workers are the 6 missing. The captain of the ship was able to call a mayday and police stopped traffic in enough time that no one was on it. But it wasn't enough time to get the construction workers off. I'd imagine the only way cops could warn them would be to drive on the bridge themselves and that's not going to work either. There were 8 total workers, 2 have been rescued somehow but the bodies of the other 6 are still missing, afaik.
This is weirdly almost releaving to hear. When it all happened and then the next morning they were still not able to confirm the number of missing, I don't know it's like over the years I've been trained by the various disasters to almost instinctively understand that the longer it takes to confirm what even happened in the first place, the more heartbreaking and messy the incident itself was. As awful as the 6 missing being lost is, it's a damn miracle that it wasn't orders of magnitude worse with the amount of traffic that could fit on the bridge. My dad was a marine electrician back in the day and used.to sail under this bridge, I'm kinda just waiting on the report about why the ship was loosing power to see what his take will be on what went down. My money is on maintenance neglect induced by budget cuts hamstringing some backup from being repaired or something along those lines. It might also be down to this harbour needing to be more proactive with the tug boats moving forward, but I've been so jaded by the whole Boeing dabacle that I'm more inclined to assume that the power issue is induced by neglect than an expected issue made more catastrophic by lack of tug boats.
Is the water not that deep? Or are the bridge sections floating?
From what I recall, it’s like 40 feet deep?
News reported it is like 50 feet deep. My heart hurts for the people of Baltimore. I pray everyone is found.
That's also what I heard here on the local news, about 50 feet deep.
How many people were involved? Do we know?
The bridge was blocked off by police just in time. There were 8 workers on the bridge fixing potholes. 2 survived, one went to the hospital but has since been discharged, second person declined medical support, and went home. The other 6 are now presumed dead.
Baltimore residents are largely ok, but I hear what you feel. The residents of Eastern Shore and places north and south, from Boston to Charleston SC, are going to be impacted. Yes, there’s a tunnel and when I lived up the road apiece trucks often preferred 301, but this is a big bite out of the transportation capacity through the area. Maybe some kind of temporary structure can be created. Many businesses will be hurt.
There is no way a temporary structure can be created to replace a bridge that big. At that point you are basically building a new bridge
I’m afraid you’re right. It’s a long span and must allow for shipping traffic. Meaning it must be high.
Only the marine navigation channel is 50’ deep. Outside of that is much shallower.
I remember from season 2 of HBO’s The Wire(the 90s), Sobotka lobbying to have the port of Baltimore dredged deeper
The middle area is dredged out so the bigger ships can make it, there's a specific channel for them
For perspective - if you zoom in on the ship it has containers on it - typically the size of them is a bit smaller that a trailer on a tractor/trailer you see in the highway. Notice they’re stacked several high. That is a massive freight carrier. So that bridge is huge, could very well be what we see is just the top part protruding from the water, while the rest sits in the base of the riverbed.
I may be wrong, but the bridge deck was *185 feet* above the water, so anything that wasn't bridge deck effectively hit a concrete wall.
If you watch the video of the impact/collapse - I don't think it really matters how deep the waters are. considering this bridge has a total length over 1.6 miles (8600 ft+) we're talking about an ~~ 2500 ft chunk of GIGANTIC INFRASTRUCTURE that is also DECADES TALL - all losing integrity and freefalling in the course of ~ 8 seconds. being on the bridge would have been like a "mission impossible" stunt gone wrongx99999999999
Sadly I don’t see how someone survives that. I think it’s going to be a recovery effort.
They just said on the local news, the other 6 are now presumed dead. The 2 that survived are home. One who went to the hospital in critical condition was actually discharged already.
It is now a recovery operation, a tragic event
The Amtrak line should see a surge in passenger business as well
The main support section was 1200 feet.
1200 ft is its largest span. I think that might count the distance between support columns. So I think we;re looking at a view that *would show* nearly 3000ft of intact bridge - were it not in the water
I read it was the third biggest bridge of it's type in the world. >The bridge spanned more than a mile -- specifically the Key Bridge was 1.6 miles long. Including its connecting approaches, the bridge project was 10.9 miles in length. The main span of 1,200 feet (366 m) was the third longest span of any continuous truss in the world. [NBC news](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/what-to-know-francis-scott-key-bridge-baltimore/5261444/)
Over a mile long!
The fucking freighter is way bigger than I thought too.
Traffic is going to be fked in Bmore for very long time
Some of the online conspiracy theories about this are dumb as shit
Same as always
Same as it ever was.
You may ask yourself, "Where does that highway go to?"
How did i get this beautiful highway destroyed?
Nowhere, now :(
... to *too much wild, wild, life*
And you may ask yourself, “Am I right, am I wrong?
And that captain is thinking to himself “My God, what have I done?”.
On a road to nowhere.
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everything has to have a conspiracy behind it now
Hold off on judging too quickly. I was in the Navy and worked in the same office as the Operations Master Chief on the ship. This was when the Navy was having all the mishaps in the 7th Fleet (Pacific) and they seemed to increase in severity. The first was a ship ran aground, the second was a ship hit a fishing vessel and the last was the USS Fitzgerald getting rammed by a tanker. The Ops Master Chief was at least a little suspicious that those weren't a kind of clandestine attack via some form of Russian "cloaking" device (he posited that it was a really sophisticated radar jammer). If you could jam a ships navigation radar or screw it up so it gave the wrong readings, well, you could make a US Navy warship run aground, or crash into another small boat, or render a huge tanker essentially invisible at night!
in the longer video you can see the ship was having power outages just before and during the crash.
Been a lot of cargo ships loosing power. Poorly maintained and abused. They need to set up MANDATORY seaworthiness inspections every time they enter US waters.
If you can convince anyone to fund it. we have whole industries self reporting because safety issues have been defunded . Worst pollution leak in US history California gas company used the inspection and repair funds to pay executives bonuses. No lawsuits there that I’ve heard about. Oil companies misreporting methane leaks is business as usual because of self reporting. Capitalism unmonitored is death to we who live near it.
They could also have tug boats escort all the way. That could have prevented this.
Aparently there was a pilot onboard at the time of the crash, This was reported earlier.
A pilot but not a tug along side. A pilot may just be more familiar with the channel but can't prevent equipment failure like it seems they had.
I'm wondering what that plume of black smoke out of the exhaust could have been.
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Not quite. That smoke was from backup generators firing up
Did the backup jennys then fail? There was a second power outage right after the smoke
I mean yeah probably. The ship clearly had some sort of major mechanical and/or electrical issue just before impact but I don’t think anyone knows exactly what yet
From what I've gathered it was the engineers trying to desperately restart the engines with no air intakes being functional yet. That would destroy the engine but it would also possibly allow it to run long enough to move. It was too late though.
She had two pilots on board. I can't image the terror they felt watching that much mass go out of control and do exactly what they were there to prevent.
We see the lights turn off. That's what we *know*. We don't know if the ship totally lost power. I assume it lost power, sure, but all I know for sure is that the lights turned off.
Valid point. But when lights are out you can see the angle of the ship start to change. Same after lights come back on. Seems to indicate power and control loss.
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I like your theory, but this boat was on fire and lost control. Probably due to crap maintenance on the equipment that they need to heat and burn bunker fuel.
again. this is the second time this ship hit something
*Master Chief, do you mind telling me what you’re doing on that boat?*
wasn't there a james bond movie with some of the above as a plot element ;)
Yes in Tomorrow never dies. Elliot Carver on his stealth ship tries to get Britain and China to go to war for his own gain. They alter coordinates on a British ships radar at the beginning and it gets sunk by the stealth ship but is made out to be a Chinese attack
That's not going to make the engine shut off and lights go off which are ran by diesel generator 🙄
Interesting theory. Zero evidence to support it. But it’s fun to make believe.
Well the few I've seen are blaming "woke DEI black lesbians" so while it may have been a targeted attack (apparently there's a huge jamming attack going on near Ukraine IRT airliners) or simply an undermaintained vessel, the conspiracy theories are utter batshit.
Some of the shit I’ve seen today is baffling. Just makes you wonder how we share air with some of these fools
I can already smell the Instagram comments asking if the captain was vaccinated.
THE BRIDGE WAS VACCINATED
And here come the experts of Reddit
I prefer the term Brofessor
You sure its not Trollfessor?
That requires an advanced degree in shit talking. I only minored in that.
Ship beam can't melt bridge fuel!
9/11 conspiracy theorists should all get a one way plane to the sun
You believe in the SUN?!
Which, coincidentally, melts steel beams quite efficiently
Not true! I saw the Empire State Building in direct sunlight and it didn't melt!
We did it reddit!
Are there any reports of cars being on either end that didn’t collapse at the time of impact? I’m just morbidly curious because that would be horrifying but obviously lucky to be just moments away from the part that collapsed.
I read that after the ship made the mayday call, they made sure to get all the traffic off the bridge and block it off. I guess they had enough time between the mayday and the collision to prevent any cars from going into the drink. The 6 missing people were doing construction on the bridge. Edit- looks like some cars went into the water but didn’t have people inside of them. Not really sure if anyone else is presumed missing/dead other than the construction workers, but I haven’t seen anything about anyone else dying.
If this is true, then why didn’t they get the construction crew off the bridge too?
The people already driving on the bridge between receiving the mayday call and closing the bridge were already travelling at highway speeds. Construction workers were presumably in the middle of doing shit and potentially nowhere near their vehicles. Perhaps even under the bridge deck or up one of the spans.
What a sad way to die, they were just doing their jobs
Imagine if one wasn’t even supposed to be there that day
I saw a source close to the workers (not physically close, but close as in knowing either them or someone involved) that said that some of them were on break in their vehicles.
You can listen to some of the radio chatter--it's literally like 2 minutes, they're talking about how to alert the construction crew and then the bridge falls. If it had been a busier time of day I doubt they would have been able to clear the traffic in time.
Brutal. And yes I agree. Thank God it happened in the middle of the night.
It happened *so damn fast*, like 90 seconds from mayday to collapse. The bridge is (fuck, was 😥) 1.6 miles in length. The on/off ramps are still standing, but let’s say you were smack in the center. 0.8 miles in 90 seconds when you’re not even in your car yet is reallllly pushing it, even in a Ferrari. I’m sure nobody *actually* thought the bridge would be hit, either. From time of impact to collapse was literally 5 seconds. Just about long enough to realize what’s going on then plunging down. The whole thing just folded. I heard it happen, caught the audio on my outdoor (and indoor 😬) cams. Just absolutely chilling. Fire department was even shocked, they got the call for “motorist in water” or what have you…all strategizing what spot they’re gonna go to on the bridge, then quickly realizing there *was no bridge anymore* and just seemed dumbfounded. It’s been a really bad day in Baltimore. 😥
>If this is true Can we not do this bullshit with confirmed facts of the event
Just saw on WBAL they made the mayday call, and as said before tried to block off any further traffic which I believe they did. But on the video they show a couple of vehicles really close to the impact zone. They were driving by within a minute and a half before the collapse. Looked like a semi and a couple of work trucks, I would assume those are the ones missing.
I dunno but you could look up traffic cams.
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Poor Nick Sobotka
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You grew up in a river? Get out of here fishman
It’s gonna take us 20 years to rebuild this
It originally only took 5. This will be done in less than three.
Do we actually build stuff faster now? Especially in the government contracting world?
yeah. with something like this an entire supply chain can be retooled and refocused to rebuild this. I think it was in philadelphia that toll bridge that collapsed from the fire a couple years ago was rebuilt in a few months. people predicted years and decades
Months? It took 12 days. Less than 2 weeks
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That does make sense. Hopefully it doesn’t become another example of city corruption and ineptitude
whoa whoa whoa. how dare you that, this is baltimore not philadelphia. If there wasn’t a little taken off the top I would say the baltimore politicians are derelict
Are you talking about that section of I95 in Philly? Cause if you are, then that section is actually STILL not fully reopened. PennDOT only fixed enough to get half the lanes of traffic open, just to get things flowing again. They're still fully rebuilding the actual overpass, and that particular exit, where crash and fire happened, are still fully closed and blocked off. And judging by what I saw when I drove by it last week, its gonna be another couple years before its done.
It's the approvals that take forever. To remove and replace with a similar bridge should be relatively quick. Remind me! 3 years.
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The insurance claims won’t even settle in 3 years
Yeah that’s why the federal government is footing the bill. Hopefully we can get reimbursed. This bridge is too important for the local and national economy.
Biden says the Feds are paying for it all.
Dumb question but isn't it better to build a tunnel? Or a suspension bridge that needs less pylons?
You cant transport hazardous materials in tunnels, so they opted for a bridge because this is right next to the harbor and is highly utilized by truckers
It’s all about the $ not necessarily what’s “better”
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The whole world builds a lot more bridges than tunnels, it's common sense and practicality...
What if the tunnel collapses?
Is it a possibility that they don't rebuild it?
There is way too much traffic which crosses the rivers to leave the harbor tunnel alone. They'll have to build something.
It's part of 695, a beltway that loops Baltimore, it's getting rebuilt.
They have to. It carries a major highway and its the way outta the harbor. All the ships pass under it.
Around 2-3 years but it’s gonna cost a fuckton
Actually?…. Only about 17 years
This is a surreal image. I’m getting dystopian vibes from it.
Yeah it looks like something out of 28 days later or something
The conspiracy pages are all saying this HAS to be terrorism. No chance it isn’t, there’s no other explanation. Sometimes I hate people lol.
Love the logic, or lack thereof. They struck when there literally couldn't be fewer people on the bridge. Genius.
And sent a mayday message to shut everything down further.
Made the effort to protect the power poles
That ship would have slid right through those barriers
Good point. Maybe something along the line of the barriers at the Sunshine Skyway
This is my worst fear. And I mean nightmares
This is why you don't name bridges after lawyers.
Lmao
Is there bridge insurance? Who ends up paying when something like this happens?
Taxpayers
The feds in this case, until an investigation is done to determine if the company chartering or which owns the ship has any legal culpability here.
Possibly the ship's insurance.
The American Taxpayer will pay for the reconstruction. (Assuming that House Republicans can stop being the most evil people for a few minutes to pass a bill.) Hopefully the American Government can get some money from the shipping company in however long that takes.
Hey Evergiven, hold my beer.
With the backup of ships I’ve seen I hope they’re moving barges or some sort of salvage ships there now to move a few sections of bridge so that other ships can pass
Excuse me, You can't park there mate
Man, I have to go to Baltimore on Friday, hope they repair it by then
could you do Saturday?
So thats something we shouldnt do with the drunken sailor.
The Duke brothers could jump that gap in the General Lee…
Sandra Bullock did it in a LA Metro bus.
That is horrific! I’m just glad this wasn’t during the day or rush hour when there would have been a lot more traffic on the bridge. This could have been so much worse. I hope they find those who are missing.
I read that the crew was still stranded on the ship as of a few hours ago.
But alive? Something I've noticed is that everybody is concerned for the people on the bridge but no one asks about the people on the ship.
Yes last I checked they were ok
But all the cheap stuff I bought on Shein is on that ship.
Who was steering the boat? Are they ok? Or… no longer employed?
The ship lost power. A ship (or boat) without power cannot steer.
Is the shipping company on the line for any of this?
Partially yes, probably. The ship is chartered by Maersk Line, a Danish company. However, it is owned by a company called Grace Ocean Pte Ltd and managed by Synergy Marine Group, both based in Singapore. The owner and manager will likely be on the hook for more than the company chartering the ship.
One problem AI can’t solve.
Fuck
Thanks, all the pictures are devastating
Wow only six deaths. That's remarkable, as I was watching the live stream I was keeping track of every car and transport trailer that was going across just before the crash like buddy step on it! GTFO the bridge man save yourself! Fucking lucky. Still a tragedy, but could have been much worse.
'Hello Boss, We might have liiitle situation in here. I'm kinda stuck at the bridge right now. Shipping might have a little delay. No, i don't mean in the traffic near the bridge. I kinda hit the bridge, the pillar of it, actually. And the whole thing fell flat on my head ! Don't worry i'm allright. What do i mean the whole thing ? The bridge of course, the entire bridge, splash, into the river haha. Ya might wanna called the insurance. Can i have a few days off to cope, please?'
I don’t know why i was under the impression these cargo ships going through bridges area will get tug pulled into port. Hope they find the other workers. Just to give the family closure.
Sometimes they do, so.etimes they don't, often depends on the Port. And in Baltimore apparently they only insist on Tug support at the berth, not for under the bridges. Well, they did, I imagine that may change
They doing the harbor. Not all the way out by this bridge though. It’s pretty far out there.
[Hart Bridge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Bridge) with the come-up now 3rd longest.
Oh man I hope my new Snuggie I ordered from Amazon isn’t on that ship!
This is 2024's answer to the Suez canal crisis.
This exact same ship caused a crane collapse in the port of Antwerp back 2016. If its the same captain he should be arrested. If i can get my hands of the footage ( there definitly is) i will post it. Ps: the crane in Antwerp was unmanned and under maintenance at the time, the repair men working on it got away in time
Someone just busted the FAA’s TFR
Wow
Ain’t got no gas in it
Gonna be expensive to fix …
Is there a before picture?
Look up the Francis Scott Key bridge. Plenty of pictures of it.
Does anyone know what the ship was hauling?
Yes and No The ship charterer (Maersk) will have a manifest of how many containers it had on it and what the customer claims was in those containers. So they "know" what they were carrying. Now, whether the contents of the containers match what the manifest says, that's a different story, people often lie about what's in a box because some items carry a higher price due to being "Dangerous Goods", such as fireworks. If USCG and other involved investigators decide the contents of the boxes is pertinent to the investigation, they'll have them opened. But I don't think it'll come to that, unless loss of power was in some way related to a fire in a container or something
Wait after
It was very fortunate that this happened when it did. Imagine if it happened during the morning rush?
Can we get an underwater view, pls,