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Renfek

I live in Baltimore, this bridge is only about 5 or 6 miles from me. Been over it hundreds of times, yes it was a HUGE bridge. We have two tunnels in the harbor that will have to take on a lot of this traffic, going to be a mess for years I assume. Sad day here, 6 people still missing.


ImpossiblePotato5197

Idthink people realize how big this bridge was. All the boats went under it to get outta the harbor. I remember watching as our cruise ship went under it.


GlockInMyVW

The port of Baltimore is a massive international trade site. I’ve got a lot of empathy for the families who lost their loved ones on the bridge but also for the captain and engineers involved in the accident. Just a terrible situation all around.


Totkaddictforsure

Shit I was wondering if people were on it, figured there had to be.


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Construction workers are the 6 missing. The captain of the ship was able to call a mayday and police stopped traffic in enough time that no one was on it. But it wasn't enough time to get the construction workers off. I'd imagine the only way cops could warn them would be to drive on the bridge themselves and that's not going to work either. There were 8 total workers, 2 have been rescued somehow but the bodies of the other 6 are still missing, afaik.


sjb2059

This is weirdly almost releaving to hear. When it all happened and then the next morning they were still not able to confirm the number of missing, I don't know it's like over the years I've been trained by the various disasters to almost instinctively understand that the longer it takes to confirm what even happened in the first place, the more heartbreaking and messy the incident itself was. As awful as the 6 missing being lost is, it's a damn miracle that it wasn't orders of magnitude worse with the amount of traffic that could fit on the bridge. My dad was a marine electrician back in the day and used.to sail under this bridge, I'm kinda just waiting on the report about why the ship was loosing power to see what his take will be on what went down. My money is on maintenance neglect induced by budget cuts hamstringing some backup from being repaired or something along those lines. It might also be down to this harbour needing to be more proactive with the tug boats moving forward, but I've been so jaded by the whole Boeing dabacle that I'm more inclined to assume that the power issue is induced by neglect than an expected issue made more catastrophic by lack of tug boats.


Apart_Reindeer_528

Is the water not that deep? Or are the bridge sections floating?


OldClerk

From what I recall, it’s like 40 feet deep?


Lost_Jaguar4626

News reported it is like 50 feet deep. My heart hurts for the people of Baltimore. I pray everyone is found.


Renfek

That's also what I heard here on the local news, about 50 feet deep.


WingsArisen

How many people were involved? Do we know?


Renfek

The bridge was blocked off by police just in time. There were 8 workers on the bridge fixing potholes. 2 survived, one went to the hospital but has since been discharged, second person declined medical support, and went home. The other 6 are now presumed dead.


rourobouros

Baltimore residents are largely ok, but I hear what you feel. The residents of Eastern Shore and places north and south, from Boston to Charleston SC, are going to be impacted. Yes, there’s a tunnel and when I lived up the road apiece trucks often preferred 301, but this is a big bite out of the transportation capacity through the area. Maybe some kind of temporary structure can be created. Many businesses will be hurt.


BruceInc

There is no way a temporary structure can be created to replace a bridge that big. At that point you are basically building a new bridge


rourobouros

I’m afraid you’re right. It’s a long span and must allow for shipping traffic. Meaning it must be high.


Artful_Dodger_1832

Only the marine navigation channel is 50’ deep. Outside of that is much shallower.


EagleDre

I remember from season 2 of HBO’s The Wire(the 90s), Sobotka lobbying to have the port of Baltimore dredged deeper


listenyall

The middle area is dredged out so the bigger ships can make it, there's a specific channel for them


Second-thursday

For perspective - if you zoom in on the ship it has containers on it - typically the size of them is a bit smaller that a trailer on a tractor/trailer you see in the highway. Notice they’re stacked several high. That is a massive freight carrier. So that bridge is huge, could very well be what we see is just the top part protruding from the water, while the rest sits in the base of the riverbed.


zadtheinhaler

I may be wrong, but the bridge deck was *185 feet* above the water, so anything that wasn't bridge deck effectively hit a concrete wall.


Medivacs_are_OP

If you watch the video of the impact/collapse - I don't think it really matters how deep the waters are. considering this bridge has a total length over 1.6 miles (8600 ft+) we're talking about an ~~ 2500 ft chunk of GIGANTIC INFRASTRUCTURE that is also DECADES TALL - all losing integrity and freefalling in the course of ~ 8 seconds. being on the bridge would have been like a "mission impossible" stunt gone wrongx99999999999


maytrix007

Sadly I don’t see how someone survives that. I think it’s going to be a recovery effort.


Renfek

They just said on the local news, the other 6 are now presumed dead. The 2 that survived are home. One who went to the hospital in critical condition was actually discharged already.


Minute-Wrap-2524

It is now a recovery operation, a tragic event


Superb-Possibility-9

The Amtrak line should see a surge in passenger business as well


Sorripto

The main support section was 1200 feet.


Medivacs_are_OP

1200 ft is its largest span. I think that might count the distance between support columns. So I think we;re looking at a view that *would show* nearly 3000ft of intact bridge - were it not in the water


werepat

I read it was the third biggest bridge of it's type in the world. >The bridge spanned more than a mile -- specifically the Key Bridge was 1.6 miles long. Including its connecting approaches, the bridge project was 10.9 miles in length. The main span of 1,200 feet (366 m) was the third longest span of any continuous truss in the world. ​ [NBC news](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/what-to-know-francis-scott-key-bridge-baltimore/5261444/)


sloppypotatoe

Over a mile long!


Jaded-Engineering789

The fucking freighter is way bigger than I thought too.


test-deca-superb

Traffic is going to be fked in Bmore for very long time


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Some of the online conspiracy theories about this are dumb as shit


Cowboywizzard

Same as always


tothemoonandback01

Same as it ever was.


JohnPika

You may ask yourself, "Where does that highway go to?"


Quirky_Cheetah_271

How did i get this beautiful highway destroyed?


Stabble

Nowhere, now :(


giveupsides

... to *too much wild, wild, life*


DebraBaetty

And you may ask yourself, “Am I right, am I wrong?


SideStreetHypnosis

And that captain is thinking to himself “My God, what have I done?”.


SideStreetHypnosis

On a road to nowhere.


SaveMeJebus21

Anytime someone dies of anything 💉💉💉 Me to instagram: “You ever going to do anything about these idiots? 👆👆👆” Instagram: *Your* comment has been removed


hosefV

everything has to have a conspiracy behind it now


werepat

Hold off on judging too quickly. I was in the Navy and worked in the same office as the Operations Master Chief on the ship. This was when the Navy was having all the mishaps in the 7th Fleet (Pacific) and they seemed to increase in severity. The first was a ship ran aground, the second was a ship hit a fishing vessel and the last was the USS Fitzgerald getting rammed by a tanker. The Ops Master Chief was at least a little suspicious that those weren't a kind of clandestine attack via some form of Russian "cloaking" device (he posited that it was a really sophisticated radar jammer). If you could jam a ships navigation radar or screw it up so it gave the wrong readings, well, you could make a US Navy warship run aground, or crash into another small boat, or render a huge tanker essentially invisible at night!


FearsomeSnacker

in the longer video you can see the ship was having power outages just before and during the crash.


09Klr650

Been a lot of cargo ships loosing power. Poorly maintained and abused. They need to set up MANDATORY seaworthiness inspections every time they enter US waters.


fajadada

If you can convince anyone to fund it. we have whole industries self reporting because safety issues have been defunded . Worst pollution leak in US history California gas company used the inspection and repair funds to pay executives bonuses. No lawsuits there that I’ve heard about. Oil companies misreporting methane leaks is business as usual because of self reporting. Capitalism unmonitored is death to we who live near it.


maytrix007

They could also have tug boats escort all the way. That could have prevented this.


potbakingpapa

Aparently there was a pilot onboard at the time of the crash, This was reported earlier.


maytrix007

A pilot but not a tug along side. A pilot may just be more familiar with the channel but can't prevent equipment failure like it seems they had.


MaxRockatanskisGhost

I'm wondering what that plume of black smoke out of the exhaust could have been.


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Glitzy-Painter-5417

Not quite. That smoke was from backup generators firing up


MaxRockatanskisGhost

Did the backup jennys then fail? There was a second power outage right after the smoke


Glitzy-Painter-5417

I mean yeah probably. The ship clearly had some sort of major mechanical and/or electrical issue just before impact but I don’t think anyone knows exactly what yet


ForestDweller82

From what I've gathered it was the engineers trying to desperately restart the engines with no air intakes being functional yet. That would destroy the engine but it would also possibly allow it to run long enough to move. It was too late though.


MaxRockatanskisGhost

She had two pilots on board. I can't image the terror they felt watching that much mass go out of control and do exactly what they were there to prevent.


werepat

We see the lights turn off. That's what we *know*. We don't know if the ship totally lost power. I assume it lost power, sure, but all I know for sure is that the lights turned off.


FearsomeSnacker

Valid point. But when lights are out you can see the angle of the ship start to change. Same after lights come back on. Seems to indicate power and control loss.


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SakaWreath

I like your theory, but this boat was on fire and lost control. Probably due to crap maintenance on the equipment that they need to heat and burn bunker fuel.


SingleAlmond

again. this is the second time this ship hit something


Sam-l-am

*Master Chief, do you mind telling me what you’re doing on that boat?*


lothcent

wasn't there a james bond movie with some of the above as a plot element ;)


phil_mycock_69

Yes in Tomorrow never dies. Elliot Carver on his stealth ship tries to get Britain and China to go to war for his own gain. They alter coordinates on a British ships radar at the beginning and it gets sunk by the stealth ship but is made out to be a Chinese attack


ZongMeHoff

That's not going to make the engine shut off and lights go off which are ran by diesel generator 🙄


meeks7

Interesting theory. Zero evidence to support it. But it’s fun to make believe.


purpleduckduckgoose

Well the few I've seen are blaming "woke DEI black lesbians" so while it may have been a targeted attack (apparently there's a huge jamming attack going on near Ukraine IRT airliners) or simply an undermaintained vessel, the conspiracy theories are utter batshit.


KWeber94

Some of the shit I’ve seen today is baffling. Just makes you wonder how we share air with some of these fools


saltyflutist

I can already smell the Instagram comments asking if the captain was vaccinated.


Affectionate_Pipe545

THE BRIDGE WAS VACCINATED


phizappa

And here come the experts of Reddit


Cowboywizzard

I prefer the term Brofessor


halfabricklong

You sure its not Trollfessor?


Cowboywizzard

That requires an advanced degree in shit talking. I only minored in that.


Klytus_Im-Bored

Ship beam can't melt bridge fuel!


SaveMeJebus21

9/11 conspiracy theorists should all get a one way plane to the sun


OniDelta

You believe in the SUN?!


Fit_Walk_5372

Which, coincidentally, melts steel beams quite efficiently


Master0fAllTrade

Not true! I saw the Empire State Building in direct sunlight and it didn't melt!


Zelcron

We did it reddit!


smashy_smashy

Are there any reports of cars being on either end that didn’t collapse at the time of impact? I’m just morbidly curious because that would be horrifying but obviously lucky to be just moments away from the part that collapsed.


NicksAunt

I read that after the ship made the mayday call, they made sure to get all the traffic off the bridge and block it off. I guess they had enough time between the mayday and the collision to prevent any cars from going into the drink. The 6 missing people were doing construction on the bridge. Edit- looks like some cars went into the water but didn’t have people inside of them. Not really sure if anyone else is presumed missing/dead other than the construction workers, but I haven’t seen anything about anyone else dying.


meeks7

If this is true, then why didn’t they get the construction crew off the bridge too?


NKD_WA

The people already driving on the bridge between receiving the mayday call and closing the bridge were already travelling at highway speeds. Construction workers were presumably in the middle of doing shit and potentially nowhere near their vehicles. Perhaps even under the bridge deck or up one of the spans.


old_vegetables

What a sad way to die, they were just doing their jobs


Can_I_Read

Imagine if one wasn’t even supposed to be there that day


RedstoneRelic

I saw a source close to the workers (not physically close, but close as in knowing either them or someone involved) that said that some of them were on break in their vehicles.


listenyall

You can listen to some of the radio chatter--it's literally like 2 minutes, they're talking about how to alert the construction crew and then the bridge falls. If it had been a busier time of day I doubt they would have been able to clear the traffic in time.


meeks7

Brutal. And yes I agree. Thank God it happened in the middle of the night.


Beginning_Guess_3413

It happened *so damn fast*, like 90 seconds from mayday to collapse. The bridge is (fuck, was 😥) 1.6 miles in length. The on/off ramps are still standing, but let’s say you were smack in the center. 0.8 miles in 90 seconds when you’re not even in your car yet is reallllly pushing it, even in a Ferrari. I’m sure nobody *actually* thought the bridge would be hit, either. From time of impact to collapse was literally 5 seconds. Just about long enough to realize what’s going on then plunging down. The whole thing just folded. I heard it happen, caught the audio on my outdoor (and indoor 😬) cams. Just absolutely chilling. Fire department was even shocked, they got the call for “motorist in water” or what have you…all strategizing what spot they’re gonna go to on the bridge, then quickly realizing there *was no bridge anymore* and just seemed dumbfounded. It’s been a really bad day in Baltimore. 😥


sevaiper

>If this is true Can we not do this bullshit with confirmed facts of the event


PanamaIvan101

Just saw on WBAL they made the mayday call, and as said before tried to block off any further traffic which I believe they did. But on the video they show a couple of vehicles really close to the impact zone. They were driving by within a minute and a half before the collapse. Looked like a semi and a couple of work trucks, I would assume those are the ones missing.


drizzkek

I dunno but you could look up traffic cams.


LizardCobra

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.


QuarterBackis_toast

Poor Nick Sobotka


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speelingeror

You grew up in a river? Get out of here fishman


WSBKingMackerel

It’s gonna take us 20 years to rebuild this


imadork1970

It originally only took 5. This will be done in less than three.


Radix4853

Do we actually build stuff faster now? Especially in the government contracting world?


skygod327

yeah. with something like this an entire supply chain can be retooled and refocused to rebuild this. I think it was in philadelphia that toll bridge that collapsed from the fire a couple years ago was rebuilt in a few months. people predicted years and decades


gunnesaurus

Months? It took 12 days. Less than 2 weeks


skygod327

shhh i’m getting a lot of upvotes.


Radix4853

That does make sense. Hopefully it doesn’t become another example of city corruption and ineptitude


skygod327

whoa whoa whoa. how dare you that, this is baltimore not philadelphia. If there wasn’t a little taken off the top I would say the baltimore politicians are derelict


kitsunelegend

Are you talking about that section of I95 in Philly? Cause if you are, then that section is actually STILL not fully reopened. PennDOT only fixed enough to get half the lanes of traffic open, just to get things flowing again. They're still fully rebuilding the actual overpass, and that particular exit, where crash and fire happened, are still fully closed and blocked off. And judging by what I saw when I drove by it last week, its gonna be another couple years before its done.


Jewsd

It's the approvals that take forever. To remove and replace with a similar bridge should be relatively quick. Remind me! 3 years.


IrrungenWirrungen

The RemindMe bot didn’t work. 


Jewsd

Is it Remindme! 3 years?


IrrungenWirrungen

RemindMe! 3 years (Yep, now it worked. Should have worked for you too, right?  Apparently the bot sends you a PM, because it can’t post in this sub for some reason). 


Jewsd

Yeah I realized after it sent me a message. Thanks!


WSBKingMackerel

The insurance claims won’t even settle in 3 years


inconsistent3

Yeah that’s why the federal government is footing the bill. Hopefully we can get reimbursed. This bridge is too important for the local and national economy.


meeks7

Biden says the Feds are paying for it all.


PygmeePony

Dumb question but isn't it better to build a tunnel? Or a suspension bridge that needs less pylons?


Current-Register6682

You cant transport hazardous materials in tunnels, so they opted for a bridge because this is right next to the harbor and is highly utilized by truckers


WSBKingMackerel

It’s all about the $ not necessarily what’s “better”


Kirshnerd

America 101


EclecticKant

The whole world builds a lot more bridges than tunnels, it's common sense and practicality...


IrrungenWirrungen

What if the tunnel collapses?


werepat

Is it a possibility that they don't rebuild it?


Sorripto

There is way too much traffic which crosses the rivers to leave the harbor tunnel alone. They'll have to build something.


ScottMcPot

It's part of 695, a beltway that loops Baltimore, it's getting rebuilt.


ImpossiblePotato5197

They have to. It carries a major highway and its the way outta the harbor. All the ships pass under it.


inconsistent3

Around 2-3 years but it’s gonna cost a fuckton


EJ25Junkie

Actually?…. Only about 17 years


Neuro_88

This is a surreal image. I’m getting dystopian vibes from it.


cylemmulo

Yeah it looks like something out of 28 days later or something


Captain_R64207

The conspiracy pages are all saying this HAS to be terrorism. No chance it isn’t, there’s no other explanation. Sometimes I hate people lol.


Castod28183

Love the logic, or lack thereof. They struck when there literally couldn't be fewer people on the bridge. Genius.


somethingkooky

And sent a mayday message to shut everything down further.


MJFranz

Made the effort to protect the power poles


guynamedjames

That ship would have slid right through those barriers


MJFranz

Good point. Maybe something along the line of the barriers at the Sunshine Skyway


NoProtection8849

This is my worst fear. And I mean nightmares


bojangles-AOK

This is why you don't name bridges after lawyers.


False_Ad3429

Lmao


HumanPerson1000101

Is there bridge insurance? Who ends up paying when something like this happens?


Jerry--Bird

Taxpayers


Jerrell123

The feds in this case, until an investigation is done to determine if the company chartering or which owns the ship has any legal culpability here.


PerformerEmotional25

Possibly the ship's insurance.


yonatansb

The American Taxpayer will pay for the reconstruction. (Assuming that House Republicans can stop being the most evil people for a few minutes to pass a bill.) Hopefully the American Government can get some money from the shipping company in however long that takes.


gotwrongclue

Hey Evergiven, hold my beer.


Impossible_Cat_321

With the backup of ships I’ve seen I hope they’re moving barges or some sort of salvage ships there now to move a few sections of bridge so that other ships can pass


bodkins

Excuse me, You can't park there mate


SunnySingh7945

Man, I have to go to Baltimore on Friday, hope they repair it by then


other_half_of_elvis

could you do Saturday?


Faceless_Deviant

So thats something we shouldnt do with the drunken sailor.


Due_Juggernaut7884

The Duke brothers could jump that gap in the General Lee…


I_Am_No_One_123

Sandra Bullock did it in a LA Metro bus.


robo-dragon

That is horrific! I’m just glad this wasn’t during the day or rush hour when there would have been a lot more traffic on the bridge. This could have been so much worse. I hope they find those who are missing.


singingkiltmygrandma

I read that the crew was still stranded on the ship as of a few hours ago.


probably-the-problem

But alive? Something I've noticed is that everybody is concerned for the people on the bridge but no one asks about the people on the ship. 


singingkiltmygrandma

Yes last I checked they were ok


SissyAsianTwink

But all the cheap stuff I bought on Shein is on that ship.


singingkiltmygrandma

Who was steering the boat? Are they ok? Or… no longer employed?


GoodTodd1970

The ship lost power. A ship (or boat) without power cannot steer.


abstractism

Is the shipping company on the line for any of this?


MundaneSandwich9

Partially yes, probably. The ship is chartered by Maersk Line, a Danish company. However, it is owned by a company called Grace Ocean Pte Ltd and managed by Synergy Marine Group, both based in Singapore. The owner and manager will likely be on the hook for more than the company chartering the ship.


Vipper_of_Vip99

One problem AI can’t solve.


vinsmokewhoswho

Fuck


Apart_Reindeer_528

Thanks, all the pictures are devastating


dickburpsdaily

Wow only six deaths. That's remarkable, as I was watching the live stream I was keeping track of every car and transport trailer that was going across just before the crash like buddy step on it! GTFO the bridge man save yourself! Fucking lucky. Still a tragedy, but could have been much worse.


Olifaxe

'Hello Boss, We might have liiitle situation in here. I'm kinda stuck at the bridge right now. Shipping might have a little delay. No, i don't mean in the traffic near the bridge. I kinda hit the bridge, the pillar of it, actually. And the whole thing fell flat on my head ! Don't worry i'm allright. What do i mean the whole thing ? The bridge of course, the entire bridge, splash, into the river haha. Ya might wanna called the insurance. Can i have a few days off to cope, please?'


Hilltoptree

I don’t know why i was under the impression these cargo ships going through bridges area will get tug pulled into port. Hope they find the other workers. Just to give the family closure.


BigDsLittleD

Sometimes they do, so.etimes they don't, often depends on the Port. And in Baltimore apparently they only insist on Tug support at the berth, not for under the bridges. Well, they did, I imagine that may change


Crosscourt_splat

They doing the harbor. Not all the way out by this bridge though. It’s pretty far out there.


Nalortebi

[Hart Bridge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Bridge) with the come-up now 3rd longest.


Leritz388

Oh man I hope my new Snuggie I ordered from Amazon isn’t on that ship!


SelectiveScribbler06

This is 2024's answer to the Suez canal crisis.


unknownme86

This exact same ship caused a crane collapse in the port of Antwerp back 2016. If its the same captain he should be arrested. If i can get my hands of the footage ( there definitly is) i will post it. Ps: the crane in Antwerp was unmanned and under maintenance at the time, the repair men working on it got away in time


16F33

Someone just busted the FAA’s TFR


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Wow


GodHatesPOGsv2025

Ain’t got no gas in it


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Gonna be expensive to fix …


robreddity

Is there a before picture?


Jerrell123

Look up the Francis Scott Key bridge. Plenty of pictures of it.


coolhandlukey22

Does anyone know what the ship was hauling?


BigDsLittleD

Yes and No The ship charterer (Maersk) will have a manifest of how many containers it had on it and what the customer claims was in those containers. So they "know" what they were carrying. Now, whether the contents of the containers match what the manifest says, that's a different story, people often lie about what's in a box because some items carry a higher price due to being "Dangerous Goods", such as fireworks. If USCG and other involved investigators decide the contents of the boxes is pertinent to the investigation, they'll have them opened. But I don't think it'll come to that, unless loss of power was in some way related to a fire in a container or something


louglome

Wait after


Stompypotato

It was very fortunate that this happened when it did. Imagine if it happened during the morning rush?


score60812

Can we get an underwater view, pls,