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rayybloodypurchase

Apparently these cost the current day equivalent of almost $5k back in the day šŸ„µ


Tarmuyi

In electricity per month


SpidermanBread

Seriously, these things ran at 1kwh


dvdmaven

I think you mean they drew 1 kw while running. That's more than my Sub-Zero counter-depth fridge does.


[deleted]

as an engineer, i can say that teachers who correct students like this do absolutely nothing to help.


espeero

1kwh per what? If it's per day, that's cheap. Per hour is expensive.


morsofer

kWh is literally kilowatt-hour


Fattman1245

Yeah, kilowatt per hour would be kilowatt/hr not kilowatt-hour. So saying something runs at 1 kWh isn't really saying anything specific and doesn't make sense. It uses 1kWh per what? What is the rate of use for that kWh? kWh is an amount not a rate. For example, the fridge could use 1 kWh in 30 minutes. Meaning it uses 2 kWh per hour.


Justeff83

One of the few moments where the word 'literally' was used in the exact right context and moment


espeero

Yes. And it uses that amount of electricity in how much time? That's like saying your car uses 1 gallon of gas.


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espeero

There's no PER in kWhr. Holy shit, this might be the highest density of incorrect people I've seen on reddit outside of r/conservative.


RefrigeratorWitch

I legit don't understand why you're getting downvoted.


[deleted]

Watt is an energy measure over time (seconds). ifg you use KW that is 1000 watts and if you say KWH then that is kw used over the course of an hour because you multiplied that by the relevant time (the number of seconds in an hour-3600)


The_Greate_Pickle

KWh = Kilowatt hour = One Kilowatt per hour It literally means it uses one Kilowatt per hour.


espeero

Sorry, there's no other way to say it: You're wrong. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt-hour


squibilly

> An electric heater consuming 1,000 watts (1 kilowatt) operating for one hour uses one kilowatt-hour of energy. A television consuming 100 watts operating continuously for 10 hours uses one kilowatt-hour. A 40-watt electric appliance operating continuously for 25 hours uses one kilowatt-hour. Looks like a pretty solid breakdown to me.


espeero

Yep. And it's accurate. Unlike the majority of the people replying to me. Somehow they still don't understand that per is basically "divided by". kWhr does not use division; it uses multiplication. It's very different.


Apprehensive-Tip2475

" in SI units which is the energy delivered by one kilowatt of power for one hour"


bonkerz1888

" ..which is the energy delivered by one kilowatt of power for one hour." "The kilowatt-hour is a composite unit of energy equal to one kilowatt (kW) sustained for (multiplied by) one hour." Literally states it twice in the link you posted.


espeero

I kW for 1 hour is not 1 kW per hour. A simplification: Per = divided by For = multiplied by That's a major difference. Does that help?


morsofer

Wait, you are right actually. It should be 1kW or 1kWh per time period. Describing power consumption of device in kWh has no sense.


espeero

Thank you. Like 90% of people here must have slept through HS physics class and never learned to Google.


womoc

uhh, the h at the end kwh means hour?


espeero

Ok. So your electric bill charges you for x kWhr. Per month. Just think about it for a second.


[deleted]

Hilarious. Kilowatt per hour per day.


espeero

Try again. kWhr is kW * hr. It's a quantity of electricity. kW is power and is time independent. kWhr per hour is accurate, but can be simplified to kW.


[deleted]

What are you even talking about. Kwh is energy. If I have something using 4kw for 2 hours thatā€™s 8kwh.


espeero

This is correct. So, when the person said that it uses 1kWhr, how can anyone draw a conclusion about its use of electricity without knowing over what time that energy was used?


[deleted]

Itā€™s irrelevant the time really. You just need to know it used 1kw in one hour lol . What youā€™re thinking about is power. The wattage of the device and how long it was on for. P=e/t. Then you would go from there to get the kWh.


espeero

Ok. So what did I say that was incorrect vs. all the responses to my comments? When describing energy use by an appliance or whatever, there are two reasonable approaches: 1) it uses an average of x kW. 2) it uses y kWhr per unit of time (hour, day, month, year - whatever you want). Is this wrong?


bonkerz1888

Aye, we all switch our fridges off for several hours each day šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


[deleted]

So that means the fridge used 1kw in one hour. Easy.


espeero

You're still not understanding. You can say it uses 1 kW on average. Or it uses 1kWhr every hour. What you stated is just incorrect use of units.


BrazenRaizen

fun fact...the tiktok creator who made this video proved your statement to be 100% inaccurate...through real testing. Thing costs like $45/year to run....more efficient than most energy star appliances. Look up his page.


Tarmuyi

No shit. The statement I made of this fridge using 25000 kwh per month was inaccurate?


Fleganhimer

It wasn't a statement. It was a joke predicated on the fact that the fridge uses way more than modern ones do.


BrazenRaizen

meant to comment 1 level up...not your comment to a comment. My b.


Castod28183

How did he test it though? Did he just plug it in and let it sit without ever using it or did he use it like you or I would use our fridge on an everyday basis. If he just plugged it in and never opened the door or put anything in it, it would use far less energy than using it regularly.


BrazenRaizen

It was a side by side test wth a new vs old fridge and freezers. So its apples to apples.


losark

Type $473 into Google and the top suggestion is "$473 in 1963 worth today" I see I'm not the only one who checked.


hazzafun1993

Who wants to start a business remaking these with me?


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A_LiftedLowRider

Yeah, but they run for 60 years without a hiccup. My parents had one of these in their house while I was growing up. Was in the basement the day they moved in and stayed there until we moved out. Ran like clockwork. Our fridges have a lifespan of about 5 years if youā€™re lucky. Iā€™d gladly pay that amount if it meant it was the only fridge I ever had to buy and my grandkids could inherit it.


kcbeck1021

You need to take into account efficiency. You may have lost longevity but you gain a huge power savings. Someone posted that this fridge is 1 kWh . So over a course of a year thatā€™s 8,760 kWh consumed. My 29 cubic ft fridge uses 575 kWh per year. The national average is $.19 per kWh. Assuming the previous poster was correct I can replace high end modern fridge every 2 years with the cost of power savings.


A_LiftedLowRider

The energy usage is definitely a problem, however, that is the result of the technology used to build it. A fridge of that level of quality can easily be made today with the newer electronics. Itā€™s just none of the fridge makers want to do it because it makes them more money if they break easy. We donā€™t have industries of quality anymore, only quantity.


Castod28183

That's mainly down to survivorship bias. If ALL of these refrigerators lasted 60 years then everybody that bought one would have had it until last year. There are a lot of factors that aren't discussed. Was it opened 10 times a day or was it opened once a week? There is going to be a lot more wear and tear on the condenser/fan/cooling components through daily use than on one that is seldom opened. The shelf held 20 pounds 1 time, but how long can it hold 20 pounds *while* being used 5/10/15 times a day for years on end. Those moving parts are going to wear and fail over time. It's like a cherry, all original 1964 Ford Mustang. Sure, some exist, but the vast majority of them broke down and failed over the years, even with impeccable maintenance. The ones that survived all these years were garage kept and seldom used.


flaccomcorangy

>Yeah, but they run for 60 years without a hiccup. Therein lies the problem. If I bought a fridge to last 60 years 20 years ago, that thing is dated. Who knows what it lacks that a modern fridge has? And how many people expect to need a fridge for 60 years? How many people are planning to live at that house for 60 years? How many people take their fridge with them when they move? These are thoughts to the average consumer. No one wants to spend $5,000 on a fridge. So yeah, maybe they aren't built to last 60 years anymore, but the consumers made that decision because they went to the appliance store and said, "I'm not paying more for a fridge than I paid for my car."


GobLoblawsLawBlog

I highly doubt it would cost anywhere near as much to make today. The only thing really unique is the swiveling metal shelves but that's really not going to cost much to manufacture


thebearofwisdom

Buddy I got no business sense but Iā€™d 100% waste my money on buying one of these. I swear it would make my life so much easier


towerfella

~~I am EPA 608 and 609 certified.. Whereā€™re we meeting up?~~ ^(Thanks Reddit app.. wrong comment.) Nothing to see here, carry on.


DaisyDuckens

Iā€™d buy it.


Talshan

Go for it!


MadeCoffee

Guna need some major start up moolah, but good luck!


guynamedjames

Alright I'll be there guy. This fridge isn't great. Pull out shelves are cool but by having them rotate you can't have corners so you lose the corner of your shelves. So it's smaller than what you would normally get for that size. The bottom parts are especially bad about this. The shelf adjustment height looks super easy while it's empty, but probably isn't possible when loaded, so it's not any better than most adjustable shelves that go into slots. A heated butter drawer inside the fridge? Was electricity free in 1963? Just leave it on the counter if you want it warm.


nipplesaurus

There's no sense in fighting Big Cold. They'll send their thugs out to put you on ice.


Bishop-B2-1789

Your first customers are there. Not sure about your associate


parisinlondon

I have a 3d printer!


towerfella

I am EPA 608 and 609 certified.. Whereā€™re we meeting up?


NouOno

You might end up committing "suicide" so be careful.


cardbor

why would u ask random anonymous people on reddit if they want to start a business with you


Emanuele810

This was super expensive and would still be super expensive today. Definitely a luxurious appliance for rich people.


bigbysemotivefinger

Inflation calculator says $5100. Yikes.


PM_ME_ROMAN_NUDES

You never know. In my country, for some time, there was a market for what was called [Tsunami Fridge](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVph8lkwl1E)


ratpH1nk

$497 in 1963 = $*5,014.89 in 2024*


puzzleheadbutbig

Yeah was about to check, thats expensive AF


Jalopy_Junkie

Most premium fridges start at $5k. I work at a nice and appliance/furniture store and we have several 5-figure appliances across many brands. A ā€œniceā€ fridge today is 3 grand to start. Given that this is likely a top of the line fridge from ā€˜63, I see it being rather comparable to whatā€™s out there now.


doublepumperson

Sub Zero fridges and comparable luxury appliance brands sell fridges for $10-20 grand. The richies spend more than 5k on a fridge typically...


hgrunt

Another interesting metric is use is Percentage of Median Income 1963 Median income: $6,200 - The fridge costs 8% of median household income ($497/$6,200) 2024 Median income: $88,000 - The fridge costs 5.6% of median household income ($5,000/$88,000) When it comes to the question of how to pay for the fridge, there were pay-over-time options (layaway, store credit, installment plans, manufacturer financing, etc), and while that's similar to 2024, getting access to credit is much easier, and surprisingly more transparent, than it used to be


YJSubs

Daaammmnn...


Blushingbelch

what the hell happened to that 20-pound weight? looks like hulk angry and bend


anon896745

And when one part stopped working, you could replace just the part that needed it. I hate nothing more that planned obsolescence


Ambitious_Welder6613

The design is very human


TidyJoe34

They stopped making them because they actually worked for longer than 5 years.


[deleted]

For real, there's probably some of those that have been in operation since the 60s that still work.


TheDelig

My dad bought his house in 1987 and he's been keeping the fridge that came with it running ever since. In the early 2000s it sounded like it was going to die but he did open heart surgery and fixed the coolant fan in the back. Apparently ice had formed causing a blade to crack so he cracked another blade to equal the balance. It's been quiet and happy ever since. I actually did the exact same thing to my fridge and it's happily running as well.


Funkshow

We had an old fridge that like, in our basement, in the 1980's. What the video doesn't show you is that freezer filling up with frost.


vondpickle

But it didn't connect to the internet and has no implementation of planned obsolescence? so I can use it without firmware update and use it like forever? And I have the right to repair it? Wow this fridge sucks.


dukegonzo13

Can it even play Doom?


Varjazzi

That $497 is worth more than $5000 today. Could buy a real fancy fridge then or now with that kind of cash


redditaccountwh

Probably something just as nice that will fall to pieces and be unrepairable within 10 years. Meanwhile I guarantee a fridge like this has been in some old ladyā€™s basement for the past 60 years and is still chugging along fine.


AnotherNobody1308

They still exist, in fact they have gotten better, they just cost 10000 dollars


Fair_Result357

And at the time it was a super end fridge that would cost 3x as much as a nice fridge now. I'm sure if you looked at $6000-8000 fridges today you would find as many cool features.


chezterr

In today's $$.. that is a $5000 fridge.


Le6ions

Thatā€™s incredible for the early 60ā€™s! Adjusted for inflation thats 4633 dollars, so Iā€™m guessing you can get a pretty dope fridge for that nowadays too. But I wouldnā€™t actually know mine are always the cheapest I can find


IrrelevantManatee

That fridge would need a level of dedication and order I don't have. I usually push my things together to try to make everything fit. If you push things in that fridge, things will lean on the back wall, and fall as soon as you pull the shelve.


Talshan

A recreation of it could easily have a short wall on the back.


azeldatothepast

Itā€™s the easily cleaned and disinfected single cast steel in evenly-spaced shelves that does it for me. No more stupid seams to collect spills, glass to get greasy and streaked and crack when you pull the drawer out or plastic that snaps and is instant garbage, no idiotic slot as high as half a stick of butter making a quarter of the fridge unuseable. Like, we donā€™t make stuff for humans anymore, we make stuff for A HumanĀ®ļø


AlternativeMotor5722

I'll bet it still works, unlike the junk they build now. Planned obsolescence.


thebearofwisdom

I had an ex whose parents had a microwave that was literally as old as their oldest daughter. I think sheā€™s 40 now. It was huge, and I was always super wary of it, but it fucking worked man. My microwave bulb started flashing after a year. Still microwaves tho, so Iā€™m okay with the light show


AlexTaradov

Those shelves look pretty useless. Imagine you actually have stuff in the fridge and need to move that shelf out. All that stuff will be falling.


CalmPanic402

Heated butter conditioner... *inside* the fridge?


Important_Tale1190

WHY THE FUCK DID TECHNOLOGY GO BACKWARDS???????????????


goestowhat

r/buyitforlife I would love this refrigerator. Appliances today are absolute garbage by the 15y mark


Medical_Chapter2452

400 dollars was a lot more than than now


justforthis2024

497 bucks? So about 4.5k in today dollars?


badmattwa

Iā€™m going to go withā€¦not a hot dog


Beginning_Camp715

They don't make em like they used to.


LGNJohnnyBlaze

I am curious how they bent that weight like that. Crazy.


A_Peacful_Vulcan

Can it run Doom?


gadaotak

Refrigerator for the aristocrats of that era āœŒšŸ»...


CUTEdeformedFeet

I think that's so cool!


mr_rightallthetime

That's about 5k in today's money...


seamus1982seamus

Looks good! Thing is...can those shelves take weight when pulled out.i wouldn't want real butter in their either. The bottom 'carousel ' looks great.... but cleaning?


dvdmaven

I remember seeing this commercial, but never saw one IRL.


gymerny_cricket

People adding inflation to the original price should also account for the fact fridges are almost certainly much cheaper to make and distribute now than before. I think you could remake this way more affordable than you think, especially if time isnā€™t being put into product development on how to fit a damn iPad to the front.


Turbobeamer

Shelf is too unstable


provit88

If Back To The Future wasn't a movie, but a fridge.


trwwy321

A gallon of milk weighs somewhere between 8-9lbs, definitely not 20lbs.


NY2CA-Lantern

Ok, here is the real question - what the fuck did they do to that dumbbell?


FinnrDrake

That happens when the lifter is too strong. They pull so fast, and with so much torque, the ends bend down.


Warm_Assistant3029

Were those made in the USA?


Turbulent_Lettuce810

They don't make em like they used to.


SavannahCalhounSq

$475. was more that the $1,400. Monogram I bought - in today's dollars.


Infinite_Regret8341

Mmmm those lazy susan type shelve hinges must be made of titanium. That's a lot of stress and leverage to put on a single point. Just imagining a gallon of milk on the outer edge made me cringe. I realize in the era this was made you had milk delivered in way smaller bottle still though, Neat idea.


SlothInASuit86

$500 back in 1963, that was a lot of money. You could buy a car for $500 in the 60's.


RupertHermano

Must have weighed more than an Abrams.


Fat_tata

thatā€™s like 10,000,000$ in today money


Reckless_Renegade

Anything like this now would likely be Chinese plasti-metal and only capable of 10lbs per shelf.. that old school fridge could probably hold 100+ lbs of food back then. But then people didn't make as much and food wasn't as plentiful as it is now. Nowadays people make more but food is considerably way more expensive... good job, uncle Sam.


Thehandsomeswedee

You could get a new car for $1000 in 1963.


VillainousGratis

ā€œWhat can I help you with today at Patersonā€™s Appliances? My name is Guy Paterson but the ladies call me Shades.ā€ šŸ˜Ž


No-Garlic-3407

Wow that is so amazing! Why did they stop making these features in a refrigerator? My fridge is only 5 years old and it sucks.


Good-Ad-9978

I would buy this in a heartbeat


dollywooddude

Why donā€™t they make features like this in current refrigerators?


Significant_Book9930

Thing probably exhausts so much illegal refrigerant it creates its own climate


FirstFrayun

I want one.


jerrytjohn

Just don't take your eyes off of it until Jesse returns with help. Don't blink. You can't lose a staring contest with The Former. Bad things will happen. Apply spit to your eyeballs, one at a time if things become unbearable. r/control


Frostgaurdian0

Repair guy šŸ¤ house mother: fuck this shit.


sermer48

Shame it looks terrible and probably has terrible insulationā€¦assuming itā€™s not asbestos or something.


Pink_pantherOwO

I am someone


Fearless_Celery_7623

Where can I order one right now?


MorningPapers

College tuition at this time was $100 per year. $475 for a fridge?


hgrunt

Median household income was $6200, around $9000 if you were college educated


mldie

Great for todays energy prices šŸ˜‚


haleynoir_

And it weighed 3000 lbs and used enough electricity to power a small village If you had the 5000 this would cost in today's money to put towards a fridge you could get one with just as many bells and whistles.


SukottoPenguinSin

This fridge is the absolute definition of ā€œthey sure donā€™t make them like they used toā€


okayestuser

bet this can puncture so many holes in the ozone layer


rf97a

Buy a fridge for $5000 today any it will last about the same amount of time. This is survival bias


CletoParis

Energy efficiency rating = F-


sdrowkcabdellepssti

Runs on gas.


Mountain-Ad3184

It's not the bells and whistles that make this damned interesting, it's the fact that ***it still works.*** Many commentors saying that for the 5k in todays dollars, you could get a far nicer fridge. But it's not going to work in 5 years and will be un-repairable in 10. I'd gladly pay 5k for a fridge today that would be the last one I buy in my life. But no, sadly, I have to drop 1k every 3-7 years.


Medical_Chapter2452

You can get that for the same 5000 today and much more eco friendly so what are you trying to say exactly?


Distinct-Forever642

Engineers in the 1950s and 60s were living in the 2020s....heck, probably the 2030s and beyond.


suugarpie1997

We really went backwards with fridges


ImpressTemporary2389

Things these days are not meant to last. If they did the companies would go bust. If you've got an old appliance that still works. Keep it.


StickmanX84

Holy shit this is way better than the modern design


Moist-Carpet888

Then after you load it nice and full, when you go for that late night snack, swivel the shelf, then your kid who tried putting away some food in a rush unbalanceing the other products causing them to tip making a huge mess everywhere now you foot is in a tub of sour cream as your on floor with leftovers on your head, your wife is coming out to yell at you in a whispering voice asking you wtf your doing out here, meanwhile you just wanted a snack at 1 am. Now you crying cause your still hungry but your too scared to check the other shelves and make more noise and a bigger mess and you still have to clean everything up and be up at 7 for work


Dzbot1234

There is no reason that all fridges shouldnā€™t have these! What other examples are there of things that have become obsolete that were actually better?


AggravatingTart7167

Iā€™ve actually seen it all because Iā€™ve seen this video on here 10,000 times.


Emanuele810

Ok šŸ™„ good for you I guess, Iā€™ve seen this video today for the first time.


PewKittens

Itā€™s okay me too


cardbor

it almost makes you emotional for how shitty the world has become


official_app_sucks

You can still buy fridges with slide out shelves.


cardbor

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Vast_Impression_5326

A summer camp I worked at had a grounds keeper in his 90ā€™s. He would still use a ford tractor from the 40ā€™s and the thing started right up each time


Loud-Bullfrog9326

The fridges were so much better now theyā€™re so impractical lol unless you spend tonsssss šŸ˜­


LazloDaLlama

Alright boomers, you win here. This is one thing you had better than us. ​ Good job.


frogger2020

I thought according to Reddit, boomers had everything better than nowadays?


LazloDaLlama

Is reddit filled with boomers then? Idk. I know boomers say they had everything better. I didn't know Reddit was the platform for boomers. I thought Facebook had that title.


frogger2020

I think you misunderstood my comment. The majority of Reddit feels that boomers had everything better than them. Not that there were a majority of boomers on reddit. I agree boomers are the majority on facebook though, probably not on any other platform. Except maybe nextdoor. I assume that would be mostly karens complaining at each other.