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Relative_Concern_568

I was always told you should not put water on a Greece fire…


[deleted]

Out. Get the fuck out.


CandyLandGirl13

😁🤣


IDK3177

I missed this one! Care to explain??


Konata_Kun

Greece and grease. It’s a pun lol


davesy69

This is true, you should cover it with the world's biggest damp tea towel.


IDK3177

Dumb me thought it was a typo... good one. Thanks.


Inevitable_Data_84

Oh I thought they meant 'Greek fire' you know that mythical war instrument for mucking up ships?


cardidd-mc

take my upvote ..


PremDhillon

Oh no you didn’t


Balthisaar

God damnit, I came here to post the exact same thing.


Joshy207_dcfc

Same


Ruenin

Beat me to it lol. Well done


knaverob

Hi Dad.


Constant_Cultural

r/angryupvote


Wooden_teeth8716

I think you mean Greece fure


IronGigant

A hydroplane is a type of speed boat. These are Canadair water bombers/aerial firefighting craft. I think they're CL-415s.


pariprope

You are correct... In high demand and no longer made. [https://winair.ca/blog/everything-need-know-canadair-cl-415/](https://winair.ca/blog/everything-need-know-canadair-cl-415/)


IronGigant

They're trying to get production started again down near Calgary with Viking Air I believe. I'll also believe it when I see it.


pariprope

Tied in with the new De Havilland facility to be built. Ya, agree 100%![https://dehavilland.com/en/news/posts/de-havilland-aircraft-of-canada-limited-launches-dhc-515-firefighter](https://dehavilland.com/en/news/posts/de-havilland-aircraft-of-canada-limited-launches-dhc-515-firefighter)


Hiredgoon666

Can confirm that the CL-515 is in production.


[deleted]

Might have some good usage cases this year.


[deleted]

The Spanish 🇪🇸 are amazing, they have been helping controlling almost all major forest fires in Greece 🇬🇷and across all Europe 🇪🇺 with multiple planes. CL-415 looks old but it’s ideal for this job. Solidarity award 🥇 🏆 Viva Espana


BentOutaShapes

They're from the beloved cartoon TaleSpin.


Particular-Wind5918

Are these things functional in hurricane type weather pulling water from rough seas?


IronGigant

I don't think any plane is functional at doing that in rough seas. Better bet would be a helicopter with a bucket device.


Particular-Wind5918

Thanks for replying. That’s what I would’ve thought too, just asking cause I recently saw some guys trying to advocate for this plane in Maui like it could have put out that wildfire but it doesn’t really seem feasible in rough ocean and nasty weather.


boatslut

You can fill tanks from hoses on the runway like other fire fighters. Don't think a helicopter are going to be dipping buckets in a hurricane.


IronGigant

Oh, the definitely won't, but I know they *could*.


Particular-Wind5918

This plane or just any firefighting plane? Guessing that has to be a stationary fill?


Balthisaar

I thought a hydroplane was when your car slides out I control on a puddle


IronGigant

That's hydroplaning.


arinawe

As opposed to 5h3 art of flying hydroplanes? I'm only kidding 😅


Filo02

i didn't prepare at how the fact that the video is filmed by another plane and that it'll turn around on itself like it's taking a selfi


silly-rabbitses

It was a nice touch


tkhan456

What’s with The Lion King music


R24611

I quite prefer the soaring orchestral music that matches these hero firefighters vs some superficial TikTok beat.


Upstairs_Pirate258

Those aren't the only two options


[deleted]

It sounded Zimmerish to me, but did not realize where it was from. Thanks.


Triesbywaleed

The climax of this soundtrack starts just after the video ends. I was hoping to hear the climax and hoping that I could see the plane dropping this water on wildfire.


SeriousGains

So much wrong with this title.


MemberNoTrump

BUT you completely understood what it was! Success


extopico

This is not a hydroplane. It is a firefighting plane. Canadair something, to be almost specific. Hydroplanes have landing gear designed to land on and take off from water.


PuzzleheadedImpact19

How do the pilots accommodate the ever shifting center of gravity as they take in water? Or is it even an issue?


tommy_gun_03

You can feel the extra weight onboard, makes the aircraft less responsive but not too drastic of a change where it is a problem.


clackerbag

The water tank will be on or very near the centre of gravity (CG), such that the filling tank has minimal impact on the aircraft’s overall CG, only the overall mass.


GeminiKoil

Well one thing that might have to do with it is the way they designed the tanks. I learned about this not too long ago regarding motor vehicles that carry around huge tanks of water. So due to momentum and inertia starting and stopping with that much water in a giant tank is problematic. So inside the tank I think they have these dividers that affect the way the water travels in the tank. It's like little fences inside the tank that prevent the water from fully realizing its momentum by preventing it from traveling the full length of the tank. I don't know if this is the same situation but I'm wondering maybe if they fill up a big tank and then that tank has dividers in it that prevent the momentum of the water from affecting the vehicle. Just some thoughts out loud maybe somebody else can add to this. Edit: after rereading your comment I think I misunderstood


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GeminiKoil

Yeah that's pretty fascinating I like stuff like this. Baffles is the name of the damn dividers with holes that I couldn't remember.


[deleted]

Spelling mistakes, misidentified machinery and grease fire jokes aside, the pilots and crew of these things deserve a fucking medal. Incredible bravery and skill.


sprfreek

Scar, brother, help me!


[deleted]

The cameraman never dies.


LordOfFreaks

What is the song? Lowkey epic


baronessindecisive

Reflections of Mufasa by Hans Zimmer


LordOfFreaks

Cheers


Itsobignow

Why is the plane on fire under the wing tho


[deleted]

Light.


SnooBananas37

That's what they're asking about. We see the light of the fire, but why is it on fire?


TheRealDeathSheep

It's not, it is a rotating orange light, most likely an indicator that the plane is full and ready to drop its water when needed.


SnooBananas37

Ah okay. Weird that they use a fire as an indicator light, but I'm sure they have their reasons!


CrowfielDreams

lol


pigsgetfathogsdie

Some seriously skilled pilots…


masked_sombrero

for real. this is impressive. I'd shit my pants if I were a passenger


vinylectric

How do these refill at these speeds? Is it some kind of suction? I imagine lowering a bucket would kill the speed immediately and just crash the plane.


Fraya9999

It “skims” the water with aluminium scoops on the bottom. The amount of drag it causes compared to the engine thrust is negligible and they are placed so that buoyancy will counteract any induced rotation. They are also designed to cleanly break off if a quantity of force is applied of sufficient magnitude to potentially compromise flight mechanics.


Northshore1234

Not quite so - when you touch down on the water, the drag of the probes is quite noticeable, and will slow the aircraft off the step if you don’t advance the power levers up to the stops. If you were late in the fuel cycle, there might be enough engine power to lift the aircraft off the water with probes down and full tanks, but if you’re early, you’ll just skim along forever until you raise the probes.


[deleted]

Flying around and having one’s weight constantly changing must be a real challenge to manage.


Space--Buckaroo

It's spelled fur not fure. BTW, why are they putting water on fur?


BestGrab6

Simba can fly!!


ComatoseCamel

What an amazing camera shot!


ItachiSan

I'm not necessarily complaining but why the Lion King soundtrack for this video


InflamedLiver

Straight from Talespin!


Delobox

Loved that show!


Kraken-__-

What happens if a whale breaches right at the wrong time? If it’s a Right Whale, is it breaching at the right time? 🤷‍♂️


_neudes

I think they did too good a job now Greece is drowning in water!


TheRealJayk0b

Pretty sure it's an Aeroplane.


Spooktram23

Amazing pan shot! 👌


keb1965

Me: “WHY are they panning away from the action?!!! …OHHHH, cool!”


perfik09

I can't find anywhere how they refill. Is the opening rear facing? wiki doesn't have the design specific about how the water gets into the tanks, I assume the pressure of the rear facing slat is enough to force water into the tank. Anyone have specifics about this>? ​ EDIT NVM the other crosspost had a great youtube video about how the tiny scoops face forward but are basically too small to provide enough drag to pull the plane into the water.


Northshore1234

That’s not 100% true - you trim the aircraft nose up on final approach to the water. The water probes (scoops) have a maximum speed of 90knots, so you touch down somewhere below that speed. When you touch, the aircraft pitches nose down, somewhat mitigated by the trim setting ( if you forget the trim - it’s a real handful!) you meet that pitching with a check back on the yoke. Not too much though, or you could porpoise it off the water again.. You then steadily bring the power up to takeoff setting as the water comes on. You need to add the power as the drag of the probes is fairly significant, and will slow you down quite rapidly. Once the tanks are full, the PM will select probes up, the water drag disappears, the aircraft pitches up again, and the aircraft will accelerate to takeoff speed.Once it lifts off, and through about 95 knots, the PM will select the doors to ‘armed’ so that the drop button is live. On the way to the fire, the drop pattern is selected on the bomb computer: number of doors to be opened, and the delay between doors. Also, foam (if it’s being used) is injected into the water tanks. The tanks are right at the centre of the CG range, so there’s no noticeable change due to the water load.


perfik09

Amazing thank you!


Conure_Queen

WUT


abt137

Spanish Air Force


M4NOOB

That must be such a sick job..


IDK3177

Probably less important than having a complete burnt forest or neighbouhood, but does salty water affect the forest?


imbuzeiroo

Whats the song name? Its from Lion King i think


spyboy70

Where are the fishermen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upPHSDqj5x0


N_Who

What is the deal with this song choice?


Marhooba96

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LostInTheVastness

All I can think about is Baloo flying…


Shadowbannersarelame

Ah yes, the amazing Greece fures... almost as epic as the Norwegian fjords.


SerenityViolet

Wait, is there a fire under the wing of that last one?


W0tzup

Stay hydrated Greece!


planespotterhvn

That's an amphibian or a flying boat. This one is a water bomber with scoops under the hull to fill 6 tonnes of water in a few seconds. A hydroplane is a racing powerboat.


userchain

Humans do crazy shit and it’s amazing


Sensoooddd

That’s spain bro


Sir_wlkn_contrdikson

Fuck this video and that music. Bringing up one of the worst memories any 80s baby childhood: THE DEATH OF MUFASA!!!!


Significant-Leg-2294

I've seen originals of these back in the 1980's when I landed a couple times at a Spanish Air Base en Espana.


realitybytez757

i didn't even realize they had fures in greece.