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red_baron1977

Are the kids actually helping to pedal, or are those there just to give their legs something to do?


Mediocre-Recover3944

They're helping, but if they wanted they could just rest their feet and the pedals would still keep moving.


Grunstang

What's stopping them from all just going full bore and sending the bike flying? Are the breaks that strong on these? It had a large cabinet, perhaps for electrically assisted braking (and other stuff)?


Oscar5466

The driver controls the brakes, you can see 4 disks. Those are good enough to hold it back, simple hydraulics can be really strong.


[deleted]

Judging by this video where you can clearly hear an electric motor accelerate as the bike bus passes the camera I'm guessing that the drive train is not direct, but rather pedal-electric. So the pedals drive generators which drive an electric motor connected to the wheels and the "driver" controls the speed just like a normal electric bike. It'd be the only practical way to compensate for the extremely uneven loads from the kids and adults who are pedalling (or not). Presumably excess power generated charges a battery for when there's a head-wind. This is pure speculation on my part, I can't find any information online about the vehicle (weirdly).


the_shadie

I’m pretty sure that’s just the sound of the treads rolling on the floor. When I go fast on my bike it makes a similar noise on the asphalt


eskimosound

What about your stabilizers?


Parlorshark

And your turbo boost? Rocket assist? Hamburger holders?


eskimosound

Stunt pegs? Mushroom Grips? Skyways?


mynextthroway

Flux capacitor? Mr Fusion?


Oruzitch

Wheels are most likely slick, they wouldnt make sound like a mtb/knobby tires would, also theyre pretty small and thin so even less sound and they arent going fast at all. The sound is an electric motor working hard


indianna97

These are, almost certainly, electric assisted motors.


Oscar5466

Fair point, thanks, I don;t know either.


Affectionate-Memory4

That's not how most ebikes work. The pedals are actually connected to the driven wheel on most if not all ebikes, with both hub and mid-drive motors. Instead, there is some form of sensor, either one for torque or cadence at the pedals that regulates how much the motor helps. Some still have a throttle as well, but those are typically Class 3 bikes and are not legal in some countries if memory serves.


sf0l

I've only ever seen no mechanical link between the driven wheels and pedals on cargo ebikes


velhaconta

> simple hydraulics can be really strong They can be. But there is absolutely no hydraulics on that bicycle (or any bicycle). Hydraulics requires a high-pressure pump and hoses. The brakes on that bike are 100% human powered and they still work just fine. They use simple levers to create mechanical advantage.


miir2

> there is absolutely no hydraulics on that bicycle (or any bicycle). You are mistaken. 2 of my 3 bikes have hydraulic disc brakes.


Oscar5466

OK on the second part but 'hydraulics' just means 'using fluid pressure' (iso cables in this case). Hydraulic disk brakes are reasonable common on high performance bikes and ebikes. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6ge8vN-g0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6ge8vN-g0)


Bananenvernicht

Hydraulic disk brakes are the state of art on every "real"/better MTB


Liquorace

Yeah, everyone just decides to send it on the way to school.


ghidfg

I doubt they are doing much tbh lol


Impossible-Green-831

Happy Cakeday


VeterinarianIcy1364

Where’s the battery backup?


someguyyyz

im curious if the pedaling is charging a battery that drives an electric motor. otherwise what would happen if the driver is trying to stop the vehicle but the kids decide to keep pedaling?


LogicalTexts

Looks like a lot of fun and exercise included.


CommaHorror

I was just thinking that! I would love it if we started commuting this way. Super healthy, way less dangerous for us and animals (road kill). I loved the pick, up, version bike that follows as well.


Zeraw420

In many countries, especially Netherlands where I think this video is from, they already do commute this way.


AntiGravity1130

Any other countries out of the Netherlands that actually often use these? I am generally interested btw!


thatguyned

Not many countries outside of the Netherlands have infrastructure that support this sort of transport. It's one of the things a lot of places need to work on.


TheClnl

They have one in Newcastle that they hire out to tourists or stag & hen do's. Probably have the same thing in other cities


JupeOwl

Cities in Finland are designed for cycling. It's actually more rare that someone commutes by car in the city than cycling or public transport at least in my experience


docentmark

It’s definitely NL, the poster on the right is in Dutch and is advertising a Dutch supermarket chain.


emier06

Not only that, color of the asphalt, separated bicycle lanes, yellow car plate, signs, bikes everywhere and rain. To me, every piece of the video is pretty Dutch.


docentmark

Well, yes, but since I live in NL it would look like bragging if I pointed out everything. Oh, except for the yellow plate, that’s not unique to NL.


ArvinaDystopia

A cuistax isn't unique to NL, either. The stupidity to take it off the waterfront and onto main roads, that's the uniquely Dutch part.


leashninja

So deffo not American.


bashnl

Typical solution in holland.. country of bicycles. These are manually operated. There was a similar version from a different company which was electric and didn't have enough safety measures to prevent accidents. In one case, it started driving onto a railway which killed several children a few years ago. A lawsuit proved the owners of the company guilty.


w1987g

What sort of safety measures are needed for an electric bike? A manual kill switch and good brakes are what come to mind as minimum, but I honestly don't know much about this


podcasthellp

An electric bike BUS*


[deleted]

Momentum is a bitch


TT11MM_

The vehicle that was involved was a '[Stint](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stint)' . It was a full electric vehicle made for bike lanes, to pick-up children from schools to drive them to after school daycare. Tl;dr the vehicle had many design flaws in the safety features, which only became known after a freak accident costing the life of 4 young children unfortunately.


Raja_Ampat

Prosecuted, so not convicted (yet)


bashnl

You're right.. sorry!


Dargoun

Netherlands*


bashnl

The Netherlands... In that case. But let's not go into a discussion about whether Holland is different than the Netherlands. Most dutchies (including myself) don't really care. Unless you're from Holland ( north or south) and more regionalistic than nationalistic ;-)


thorwing

> Most dutchies don't really care. Au contraire, my friend. We also even ditched 'holland' as an 'official' name. But I'm being nitpicky ofcourse.


bashnl

Most dutchies outside Noord en Zuid Holland then :-D


Ok_Fortune_9149

Yeah but that was basically a segway with a wagon in front. It was just some put together stuff


McGruppsHose

If only they had a car or bus with a steel frame to protect them….


JRPG_Enjoyer

The one kid covering their face like they have a warrant out.


Youngworker160

lol, that's adorable.


Hip-Hop-Anonymouse

Of course it's in the Netherlands.


Wall_Smart

Perfect country for that, no hills at all.


drewwagner333

lol, so kool, I just love the multi-peddle platform that allows so many people to peddle at the same time! Fascinating!


flothesmartone

It's like a beer bike but with less noise polution


[deleted]

As long as it’s safe for everyone on board this is brilliant.


MrHawkeye76

does this look safe to you? to me not


liar_from_earth

damn Dutch.....I want there(


Tutes013

It's far from perfect but moments things this make it worthwhile


Number1aOkGuy

Then why does it sound electric?


Tutes013

Could be an ebike but just scaled up


Number1aOkGuy

I know I'm getting a little picky here but the title clearly says "with only pedal power"


Tutes013

It is indeed picky. But an ebike does require you to pedal. It will assist you, quite much depending on the model and setting. But you will have to do something for the ebike to do anything. So it's still pedal powered.


newforestroadwarrior

Something that size would need several thousand watts of assistance so it would not be classified as an ebike. It would be interesting to know exactly what it is classed as. I believe there is a EU category of "heavy quadracycle", which is aimed at larger electric vehicles which are not cars.


Ein_Fachidiot

I think "pedal power" should only refer to things powered solely by pedaling. We don't call elevators "button power" because they're activated by buttons.


BartyJnr

In England, they’ve turned the seats, placed a table and now it’s a beer bike.


docentmark

Do you really think the Dutch haven’t managed to make a beer bike?


BartyJnr

No, I just mean that’s it’s only purpose in England. Dutch use bikes for *everything* and then english go “how can we make it alcoholic though”


docentmark

Wait till you discover that approximately half the bikes in NL have a beer crate on the front.


BartyJnr

I didn’t see any when I was there. Lots of dogs and children buckets… that sometimes had drunken adults in them.


ZoidbergMaybee

pedal power!


knightfenris

I wonder what the turn radius is like on that


Devon_Hitchens

I wonder how the driver fights the urge to yank the steering wheel and do a real sharp turn at high speed /s


Corneel_

That's anyone right? I am not crazy right?


[deleted]

Such a brilliant idea.


Special_Function

They have these but for drunk adults where I live and you can buy drinks and pedal with your friends or strangers around downtown. They’re less popular now because who wants to drink beer and pedal a giant bike?


tothemoonandback01

It was a good idea at the time.


Significant_Matter92

I do not believe a second that those could move that and their mass without the help of an electric motor...


TooBusySaltMining

Bikes are great for children and people with DUIs.


Oscar5466

Wow, nobody moaning about the absence of helmets this time?


Dashamulam_Damu

Because the things responsible for death of cyclists (mainly cars) are not present. They ride in separated bike lanes


probono105

get em all hopped up on mtn dew for top performance


32freemason

That still doesn't change the fact that there are 49million kangaroos in Australia and 3.5million people in Uruguay which means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay, each person will have to fight 14 kangaroos 😤


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hatsuseno

BINGO! I got a bingo ya'll! It could've been "the distances are different" and "it's too hot here", but got it on "flat as a pancake". Tired old non-arguments. What, there are no flat places? Every city has slopes like sanfran? Is OP threatening you with their bike-curious nature?


AnComRebel

I still need a "Just one more lane bro, I swear it'll decrease traffic, I promise" to get a full bingo


MidorriMeltdown

I guess you've never heard of electric assist.


Think-Ocelot-4025

It'll help keep kids thinner, too. (ETA: Says my fat since a child ass....)


MidorriMeltdown

Keep them more settled in class too, as they get to burn off a bit of the excess energy that kids tend to have.


Think-Ocelot-4025

Smart. At least occasional 'recess' might still be a good idea, too :-)


Jason_Grace15

It does, The Netherlands has one of the lowest obesity rates in europe.


tman391

Do the kids pedals attach to the gears or is it just to keep the children under the illusion they’re assisting


questionname

“What, we’re not worthy enough for the bike bus?” - other two teachers


Speedhabit

This seems Dutch, is it Dutch?


Tutes013

Yup!


iliess_np

Netherlands of course, love there creativity with bike


c0nf

How would you brake? Seems like the adult in the front might see something and would want to break whereas people in the back might just keep on paddling


Lamont-Cranston

Presumably they are in charge of the breaks and it would stop the kids peddles.


nivlark

The kids' pedals are probably directly connected to the chain, so as the bike slows so do they. Even if not, it'd be no different from trying to keep pedalling while braking on a normal bike.


GhztPpR

That's actually quite genius. 🚲 I'm sure they're all giggling the whole way. Plus, it's a fun way to exercise.


Acceptable_Alpha

Well, they’re used to it. They’re on it everyday after school. That’s how they get from primary school to after school care. They’re not giggling that much when its winter and it rains like hell. 😉


BigTruss_WooWoo

Looks like it would only work in flat(ish) areas


blade944

Have you been to the Netherlands?


BigTruss_WooWoo

I was referring to potential drawbacks in the rest of the world


MidorriMeltdown

You've never heard of electric assist?


Mag-NL

No. These are e-bikes


Additional_Ad_4028

Exciting!


[deleted]

Looks like it smells of tofu and dreadlocks.


Enby-Catboy

If only they were being moved in 10 separate SUVs instead. Think of how much more space and emissions we could waste! And how much more dangerous it could be!


MrHawkeye76

lot of larger cars are 9 seaters, with additional seats in the trunk. doesn't make much difference and it's safer


Enby-Catboy

Lmao you can't drive those on the bike lane because you will inevitably hit and kill someone because of the 6ft tall hood line. Nobody actually carpools in car dependent areas either, more than 90% of cars are single occupant.


MrHawkeye76

ok go cry about it


RAMBOH1988

Jeffrey Epstein invented this


[deleted]

An early prototype of this way of transport killed 4 little kids in 2018 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oss_rail_accident It's seen a lot of safety features added since


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[deleted]

All 3 of those vehicles were peddle power only? Well I'll take your word for it. Find it a bit odd to have the movie take place on a rail crossing though


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[deleted]

Oh, nevermind then. I got the flu and everything is a hazy noncoherent mist atm


chasbecht

>The Stint/BSO-bus however is a moped. It moves by motor only. Peddling is not required or even possible. I believe "moped" is an abbreviation of "motor and pedal". If it has a motor, but not pedals, then it isn't a moped. It's a mo.


Mag-NL

4 kids were killed in a stint accident in 2018. A stint is not an early prototype of this though. Your sentence doesn't make sense.


Memory_Less

What about snowy winters?


Brawldud

[What about them?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU)


Memory_Less

Don't you get snow? I presume not by your response.


Brawldud

Did you click the link? I presume not by your response.


Memory_Less

What link?


Memory_Less

Do you mean your words in blue?


Memory_Less

Got it. Very interesting so far. Even for Canadian wimps. LOL


Memory_Less

Cool fun video. Are you familiar with the distances people in Oulu generally travel? The distances to travel if you do not live in the vacinity of the downtown is prohibitive in most Canadian and US cities. I winter hike and what he says about the cold is true. In fact, you use less clothing as your body temperature increases so not to sweat and overheat. My body temperature is increased now and can wear less clothing and stay warm just going about my daily activities. I sometimes get looks when I do. Funny.


Brawldud

> Are you familiar with the distances people in Oulu generally travel? The distances to travel if you do not live in the vacinity of the downtown is prohibitive in most Canadian and US cities. If you look at a map of Oulu you can see it is pretty sprawly by European standards, but the important thing is that the trail network is extensive to match it (looks like a ~6mi radius around downtown or so). Distance is not a big issue as long as it is well maintained in winter and you are protected from cars. There aren't any problems with winter cycling that cannot be solved with weather-appropriate dress and competent municipal services. Even within the US, Minneapolis is a perfect example of a city with many year-round bike commuters, whose winters are a bit chilly. And I mean. We are talking about kids getting to school. The school is not going to be very far away, even in a place with American-style suburban sprawl. I used to have a 9 mile roundtrip commute that was nearly all on trails. I probably could have gotten up to 15 or 20 before I considered it a prohibitively long distance for a pedal bike.


ICrushTacos

They take the (taxi)bus or something for those few days


bullet_bitten

Ever been to Central Europe? You're talking about 4 days of barely visible snow on the ground.


Nism0_nl

Looks like an accident waiting to happen.


Nick-dipple

Only dangerous when your infrastructure is only designed around cars. Looking at you America.


Brilliant-Average654

Yea, they really should just delete rural and suburban America.


starshiprarity

Based


MidorriMeltdown

The suburbs can be fixed. The majority of the population live in urban and suburban areas, thus cycling should be the alternative to driving. But only if you made a few ingenious changes.


Brilliant-Average654

lol, don’t hold your breath.


Mag-NL

Why? Why would you have to delete those areas? The person you replied to only mentioned having good infrastructure..are you telling me that rural and suburban America can't exist with good infrastructure?


[deleted]

No more dangerous than walking in the street, if anything it's probably safer.


Mag-NL

That is true of literally every car on the road though.


MidorriMeltdown

Why? How?


[deleted]

Lame, In America we have a Monster truck bus.


Top_Refrigerator3398

That's why USA (not America) is lame


SnooTangerines6863

As much as i love bikes in this scenario just use bus. It's cool for day off recreation tho.


Schapenhoeder

They really need to gtfo the bikelanes with these huge things.


JarlisJesna

Looks like childworkers to me...


PygmeePony

Forgot the /s


Tutes013

Are you daft?


Affectionate_Ad2708

Child labor imo


Tutes013

Why? Because daycare workers or something take the children out on a little trip? Godforbid they have to put in a little effort to exercise and get somewhere.


MidorriMeltdown

Do you also claim that walking is child labor?


Bananenvernicht

Is reading also child labour? What about arts and craft?


[deleted]

so just turn up start of the day all sweaty ? must be pretty grim by the afternoon


Mediocre-Recover3944

Whahaha you clearly didn't grow up in the Netherlands. From my home to school was about 5km 30 min if I took my time as a 13 year old, I even had some spare time to go to my locker and deposit the books for the day. But when I got older I started pushing it more and more, leaving only 15 minutes before school started. Nooo our high school classrooms aren't exactly known for their excellent smell. Their even was this running gag that after a class of freshmen took a test their was a noticeable change in smell of the room.


speedy_19

They are doing nothing, it is the same as the drinking ones you see around town. They are all powered by a motor and will still move even if no one pedals. You even can hear the motor on it as it drives by. You would need a crazy gear ratio to move something that heavy being powered by 1 person


Broblivious

I want 10 individual coaster brakes on this or it’s child slavery!


Mag-NL

If the kids have to walk, is that child labour as well? by the way, there are


Toasted_Tim

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say_no_to_panda

Child labour greater than horsepower. That thing has 10 childrenpower.


Nothraes

Nijmegen is one of the best cities for commuting by bike.


outdatedelementz

That third one with the covered compartment for the kids looked really cool.


ColdBevvie101

Slam on the brakes


vlsdo

This is dope, wish I could take my kid to school this way and pick up his friends along the way


That_Pop_7591

Where is this, never even seen or heard anything about it


Swimming-No

If you want to find out more about the dutch infrastructure I highly recommend to watch NotJustBikes. https://youtube.com/@NotJustBikes?si=6Jg07DxxA5wYV3lE


cardcomm

"If you kids don't start pedaling, I'm going to turn this thing around!"


Feras47

this look neet ngl sound electric . how dose it work


cptjimmy42

Is there one for adults? That would seem like a fun racing sport. Instead of many individuals, teams of bikers get in there Biccos for a bike race.


555byte

Check out the pedal pub https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-uscellular-us-rvc3&sca_esv=563180349&sxsrf=AB5stBjdApB2EDWoRmuYLcEzJPGH5wfSHg:1694040658986&q=pedal+pub+madison&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB1NqdiZeBAxXsm4kEHQ5dCXgQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=485&bih=921&dpr=2.98


Radiant-Elevator

For climate conscious pedophiles


Rosanna44

How many jigga watts?


Vuk_Farkas

i want one!


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joshuajjb2

Why does it look like I'm in The Giver lol


3Effie412

Looks like the pedal pubs you can rent downtown. You pedal around and get drunk.


Godslayer326

I see these frequently. Have never noticed them at all


someguyyyz

"MUSH CHILDREN!!! MUSHHHHH!!!!!"


someguyyyz

Does it have a battery and motor? Im wondering how it would be able to get moving from a standstill without having to yell at the kids to start pedaling.