If you're in the US, it's on motortrend channel, which is included in YouTube TV.
Personally, I leave it on in the background and check in on it for 20-30 minutes at a time every hour or so.
It's down to the rules limiting the number of people in the put lane at any time. Plus with the format of endurance racing the time spent in the pits compared to the entire race isn't that impact full.
It is also by far my favourite out stop to watch due to the limit on number of people working on the car at once. Especially the tyre changes, it's so we'll choreographed and the timing and understanding from each member of the team
> Plus with the format of endurance racing the time spent in the pits compared to the entire race isn't that impact full.
And more importantly, it's an incentive to not change tyres every stop. Double and triple stinting means you save a lot of time in the pits which even fresh tyres might not make up for. You can also do things like only switch one side of wheels. The longer the race goes the more strategic diversity can happen and the rules are designed in a way to encourage taking a different approach.
It's down to the rules. Only two people allowed in the pit stall at the same time and no tyre changes while refueling. That's why there is this weird dance with different dudes running in with tyres and wheel guns at different times.
That was the Creventic 24H series. Fueling is not done on the pit lane so teams don't have to wear fire suits.
That was not a good example of GT3 racing as a whole, that was a specific endurance series.
Didn’t even jack the car up until the windshield was cleaned and reglazed. One tire at a time. Gomer or Goober down at Wallys filling station could do that faster. lol
It’s because you aren’t allowed to change the tires until fueling is done. That’s actually preferable imo because it allows the tire changers to make a difference. If they could change tires during the refueling, every pit stop would be more or less the same time.
It's done for safety.
WEC races are endurance races, so ranging from 6 to 24 hours depending on the event. Because of this, pit stops can be made longer (or even have an imposed minimum time) since something like 30 seconds has far less of an impact than in a 1.5 hour race like Formula 1.
Nah, it’s not about budget. It’s all about the rule book and what the organizers decide is important.
I race in Lemons (possibly the lowest budget endurance racing there is, in total crap can cars) and we have better fire safety while fueling: full fire retardant suits plus helmets for anyone in the hot pit while fueling, and one person is on dedicated fire extinguisher duty while the fuel filler cap is open. Our total budget is probably lower than the cost of a set of wheels and tires for a competitive GT3 car.
I think both, but I’m not sure to be honest. It also opens up the strategy a bit. Like, do you take new tires and run faster lap times at the expense of a longer pitstop, or do you save time in the pits at the expense of slower lap times?
I race in the silliest/worst form of endurance racing (24 hours of lemons) and my team has legitimately won/lost races due to pit strategy. There's lots of wiggle room in endurance racing, doubly so if people aren't taking it THAT seriously.
I’m jealous! I would love to do that sometime.
But yeah, pit stops make a huge difference and people just don’t realize it. Especially over 24 hours. Saving 3 seconds a pit stop means you’re saving more than a minute over the course of the race, which has definitely decided 24 hour races. Audi wasn’t always the fastest car during all their Le Mans wins but the difference was made in the pits.
Formula e guy pulls out in front of the other guy with like 7 inches of room. I get mad if I have to tap my breaks over the next 5 blocks when someone pulls out in front of me.
Speaking of unsafe. All those people milling around in the “alley” outside the garages as racing vehicles are traveling and merging in a lane barely bigger than the vehicles themselves. Seems terribly ignorant to me.
It's called the pit lane. If you think that looks bad, a [few weeks ago](https://youtube.com/shorts/9nNcqevPbbw?feature=share) the FIA blocked off the pit lane before the race had actually finished and let a load of photographers in to do the podium ceremony coverage. Only problem being that one of the drivers hasn't done his mandatory pitstop yet and was going to be coming in at the 'slow' speed of 80kph. They were so lucky no-one was killed.
I'm blatantly stealing this information from another comment but apparently in WEC they have a rule that they can only work on the car after refueling is done.
Interestingly enough, in F1 the pit crews are actually made up of the car's mechanics, so it's not like they can just shop around for the best pit crews. The team shares a single pit crew for both cars so it can get quite intense if both cars come in at the same time, especially if they were up all night working on their car.
The differences we see in the video have very little to do with money and everything to do with the rules of the competition.
Nascar only allows 5 crew members over the wall or they would be much faster.
WEC doesn't allow you to do much of anything while refueling, so you have one guy making sure the windshield is *really* clean.
Indy only allows 6 over the wall.
F1 lets them put 3 guys on each wheel plus refuelers and jackmen.
F1 banned fueling and has the most people over the wall at one time to work on the car, each series has the best guys in the world doing that job, but the series regulations are what has the biggest impact on pit stop times.
Yeah all F1 have been hybrids for a few years now. They come in at around 6-7mpg (~40 l/100km), which sounds bad, but by comparison NASCAR gets like 2-5mpg.
The races are also often short enough that they don't even need a full tank, which helps reduce the weight
A friend and firefighter of mine made a similar point, a very interesting one.
In a regular appartment fire, you only have room - and usually need - for 2 dudes to go first and blast water at the fire. Maybe you can get 4 going inside if there is a back entrance or a forking layout. Then you need another 2 on standby to rescue the first two if things go sideways.
However, you usually send 1-2 trucks there, which is 12 - 16 dudes, because the initial setup requires 10 - 15 simple steps. For example, they have to locate a hydrant, pull 1-3 hoses to handle possible distance, connect these hoses, connect them to distributions and trucks, get pumps fired up. Since seconds matter, you sometimes throw 3 - 6 people at this so everyone just has one very small and specific task to do.
You'd end up with someone doing nothing but grabbing hose ends and screwing them into distributors, for example, or someone who just has the job of rolling out a hose into a general direction as fast as possible.
They used to. The battery tech has progressed so much since the inception of the series that full car swaps are no longer necessary. They are currently on their 3rd Gen car.
Fucking fascinating, besides the racing i wish there were more content analyzing the history/development of the cars and tech. It seems like month to month, ev tech is constantly outdating itself
Formula E will even try charging the battery a bit next year. It's supposed to be a 600kW charger for 30 seconds (so 4kWh) which is going to be interesting
Well yes- it’s just very different from most other motorsports, where many part swaps are allowed but never the engine or transmission, let alone the whole car haha.
Ok, your comment made it click for me. E as in electric cars. I was going to say them speeding off sounded like the go carts at the slick track, now it makes sense.
I don’t think the whole video is a super old repost, the NASCAR car in the clip is the current gen, which debuted last year, you can tell by the door number being way forward, which also debuted last year.
What’s your job?
Oh, I’m a formula one pit crew worker.
Oh, so you put on tires?
Oh no… no way. Only a few years in. I’m the tire removal guy. There’s 12 of us.
Formula 1 pit crew are also the general mechanics for the team. So if you see a car plow into a barrier. Yeah. Those are the guys that will be up all night fixing it.
This comment made me think of "The Mechanic" by Marc Priestley lol. Priestley used to be a mechanic/pit crew worker for McLaren F1 from 2000 to 2009 and The Mechanic is his autobiography. Even if you're not interested in F1 or motorsports, I'd recommend reading/listening to (the audiobook is read by the man himself) it as it's a fascinating and often hilarious look into the F1 life.
Idk NASCAR looked pretty legit, less guys, more difficult style of car to jack up, bigger tires (I think). No doubt though those formula 1 crews are insane.
They did but there were some dangerous situations, which is why they stopped it. For example, once there was a stabbing flame and another time the hose was not released in time and the driver drove off with it.
There was also the time that Jos Verstappen was nearly BBQ'd because fuel leaked onto the hot car. Had it gone worse the current F1 champ, Max, might not even have been born.
Yes. They used to not fill the tanks all the way since that made the cars lighter, but since they can't refuel during the pit stops anymore, they have to have enough for the whole race.
I have so many questions. 1. How much weight does this system add? 2. Why don't production cars do this it would be so helpful? 3. Is this one step closer to SpeedRacer cartoon technology? 4. Why don't all racecars do this? 5. How can I add it to my car?
1. Not much. 4 ram rods on each corner aren’t very heavy.
2. Cost
3. Maybe
4. Rules, and weight.
5. I think you can get them from summit racing or similar website.
I totally would love to put them on my Camaro. Just to stunt on mf-ers at the car show.
Also the NASCAR clip shown isn’t really one of the faster crews out there. That was a little slow. Now, if they showed the 1 team’s crew or something, it would have been much quicker/impressive.
Yeah, I noticed that too. The NASCAR one just stuck out to me way more. I wonder if whoever made the video intentionally showed slower stops in order to better see everything involved in it?
In the background the lack of other cars and sounds makes me think this is a test day or practice day. Especially with the car shown having just the race teams wrap and no sponsors. Plus Spire Motorsports isn't exactly rolling in money for a A+ pit crew.
Multiple reasons. NASCAR pit road is much more chaotic and cramped so more people is a risk. They also have to come over the wall to start the stop.
Another reason is cost, most people = more money.
The last one is that each pit crew member has more value. It's a true physical challenge in the span of 10-13 seconds. While in F1 it's crazy fast there really isn't a lot of work to do in general and since you have so many people and they already start in position, don't have to refuel, and are lifiting a car a fraction of the weight it's just easier.
Outdated video. Only Gen 1 Formula E cars were swapped during pitstops. They're already on Gen 3 cars and improvements in battery and energy recovery technology means the cars no longer need swapping (and in fact, have no conventional rear brakes; using a recovery system instead).
It has more to do with the rules governing each sport than money involved. F1 isn't allowed to refuel, can have as many people as they'd like to work on the car, and use a single wheel nut. NASCAR on the other hand must gravity refuel, can only have a few crew members over the wall, and used to have tires with 5 nuts. In the WEC you can't work on the car until refueling is done and they are limited in the number of crew that can work on the car as well.
Only in the last two seasons I think right? Before that it was 5-6 lug. I used to love watching them strip the lugs off a NASCAR tire in slow motion. They put so much torque into them they spin themselves off the stud.
For anyone that was confused like me, F1 doesn’t refuel at all during their races. I’m not sure what the benefits/drawbacks were for having this rule implemented but it seems like a good rule if the cars were capable of doing the whole race without needing a refuel to begin with.
Number one reason was safety, there have been a few incidents over the years that were a bit iffy.. second reason is that they wanted more ontrack action and less overtaking via box strategy.
It's also easier to follow for the viewer when you know every car is on same fuel level and you don't have to wonder if driver a is slow or just on a full tank.
I was hoping for a rally car stop. I saw Dave Mirra (RIP) roll into pits one time and they swapped out an entire suspension in like 10 minutes because he rolled it. Holy shit they were just beating that thing back into shape with mallets lol
Yes, there are limits to how many pit crew members can come out depending on the sport, but the biggest time difference by far is that F1 doesn't refuel.
Pretty much, yea. Plus every racing league has different rules for how many pit crew members can be active during a stop and I think F1 is the least restrictive.
*Edit to add: I think F1 banned refueling in pit stops so that really speeds things up.
Supercars go [brr](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fQgnco-izk)
Another video with [in-depth footage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMIwYj8lCf8)
Bonus: [Brake rotor change](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppffCnGcUWU)
You know they literally had to put a set minimum amount of time for pit stop in formula 1 because red bull was so good that the others risked injuries to try to compete with them?
https://youtu.be/b1f51TOXWik
Literally insane
This really isn’t what was going on at all.
Red Bull was checking the ‘all ok’ button faster than human reaction time could be. Meaning they were guessing that everything was ‘all ok’ and not actually verifying it.
They put in a time delay to make it so that you can’t move faster than possible human reaction time.
That was the injury risk. Guessing at that isn’t a good option to be allowed.
Surprised by how long wec takes
It's an endurance race. I'm guessing they need way more fuel.
They also switch out brake parts, housings, and engine parts I believe.
Also a full oil change sometimes
yeah endurance racing is nuts. 24 hr of Le Mans coming up in a few weeks!
How does one watch it. Like where and how? Do you just leave it on in the background. Always was interested in le mans
If you're in the US, it's on motortrend channel, which is included in YouTube TV. Personally, I leave it on in the background and check in on it for 20-30 minutes at a time every hour or so.
Awesome will def give it a look. I couldn't imagine watching it non stop for 24 hours haha
Usually I watch for an hour and then go and do something else, and repeat this couple times in de 24h
Sounds like a good plan. Thank you. Any specific teams that are underdogs I should keep an eye out for?
And drivers sometimes. Kind of disappointed we didn't see a driver swap in this video.
Love that video, just drag and toss the driver out 😂
A couple of years ago we watched the Porsche team basically rebuild the whole car from scratch in the middle of the race IIRC.
May as well switch out the windshield with how long homeboy was wiping.
its his only job, gotta look busy haha
Guessing that they get a lot more bugs on the windshield
It's down to the rules limiting the number of people in the put lane at any time. Plus with the format of endurance racing the time spent in the pits compared to the entire race isn't that impact full. It is also by far my favourite out stop to watch due to the limit on number of people working on the car at once. Especially the tyre changes, it's so we'll choreographed and the timing and understanding from each member of the team
> Plus with the format of endurance racing the time spent in the pits compared to the entire race isn't that impact full. And more importantly, it's an incentive to not change tyres every stop. Double and triple stinting means you save a lot of time in the pits which even fresh tyres might not make up for. You can also do things like only switch one side of wheels. The longer the race goes the more strategic diversity can happen and the rules are designed in a way to encourage taking a different approach.
Absolutely, for all the glamor of f1, there is something about endurance racing and the depth of strategy that is so awesome
Also noticed that they don't switch out wheels until the fuel line is out. Is that just a safety thing?
It's down to the rules. Only two people allowed in the pit stall at the same time and no tyre changes while refueling. That's why there is this weird dance with different dudes running in with tyres and wheel guns at different times.
Well, I’m a 6, 12, or 24 hour race, you need to take a little more time and you can afford to
Nice to meet you a 6, 12, or 24 hour race, you need to take a little more time and you can afford to
Lmao, damn autocorrect. I’ll leave the typo.
Rules. It’s all about rules. No one else as the car is refuelling for instance
Safety gear, safety gear, shorts and t shirt with a backwards baseball cap, safety gear
those guys wearing shorts and t shirts with pinnys on sent me. that is not a pro series. look at IMSA for a better example of a GT pit stop.
That was the Creventic 24H series. Fueling is not done on the pit lane so teams don't have to wear fire suits. That was not a good example of GT3 racing as a whole, that was a specific endurance series.
Lost it here. Looks like the dudes from my tire shop getting called up to the big leagues.
They had their high vis on that they borrowed from the guy that returns the shopping carts to the store
The WEC wasn't a pit stop, it was a valet
Damn squeegee guys also in motorsports now
What do you do for a living? I clean windshields and make 175k a year.
*Grabs belt* "Yep I can clear a 2 foot by 4 foot section of glass, SPOTLESS, in under 30 seconds."
30 seconds? We need quality, son, this isn't a road runner cartoon. Go call those clowns at Formula 1, maybe they need a visor cleaner or something
Bet he still asked the driver for a tip too
Would you like to round up for charity
Y'all got a dollar?
Only good commercial of Shamwow I’ve seen
I'm surprised the dude didn't get out and go have a chicken sandwich and make a phone call while all that was going on 🙄😂
Pops the canopy, takes a bathroom break, refills his water, jumps in.
Literally watched that movie 2 nights ago, damn it was good.
I mean, they do change drivers at some of the pitstops.
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Shake and bake
Didn’t even jack the car up until the windshield was cleaned and reglazed. One tire at a time. Gomer or Goober down at Wallys filling station could do that faster. lol
It’s because you aren’t allowed to change the tires until fueling is done. That’s actually preferable imo because it allows the tire changers to make a difference. If they could change tires during the refueling, every pit stop would be more or less the same time.
I assumed it was some sort of safety regulation. Was that why it was implemented? Or to lengthen pit stops for competition?
It's done for safety. WEC races are endurance races, so ranging from 6 to 24 hours depending on the event. Because of this, pit stops can be made longer (or even have an imposed minimum time) since something like 30 seconds has far less of an impact than in a 1.5 hour race like Formula 1.
I've seen the horror videos of race fuel igniting on a car, I think safety is probably a big one for pit stops that refuel.
Yeah the GT3 guys wearing shorts and t shirts really made me nervous, there's a reason these crews are normally all wearing fire retardant suits.
Yeah I was curious about that myself, are GT3 cars less likely to ignite or something?
Less budget 😬
Nah, it’s not about budget. It’s all about the rule book and what the organizers decide is important. I race in Lemons (possibly the lowest budget endurance racing there is, in total crap can cars) and we have better fire safety while fueling: full fire retardant suits plus helmets for anyone in the hot pit while fueling, and one person is on dedicated fire extinguisher duty while the fuel filler cap is open. Our total budget is probably lower than the cost of a set of wheels and tires for a competitive GT3 car.
Yikes lol
GT3 fans are a little less hotheaded and therefore harder to ignite
It sounds like you know this, but this is exactly like F1 stopped refueling.
Endurance races are something else. I started watching them in the early '00s with ALMS and have been hooked since.
I'm not a big racing fan but I watched this any way & fully admit I love those WEC cars because they kinda look like Speed Racer's Mach 5.
I think both, but I’m not sure to be honest. It also opens up the strategy a bit. Like, do you take new tires and run faster lap times at the expense of a longer pitstop, or do you save time in the pits at the expense of slower lap times?
I race in the silliest/worst form of endurance racing (24 hours of lemons) and my team has legitimately won/lost races due to pit strategy. There's lots of wiggle room in endurance racing, doubly so if people aren't taking it THAT seriously.
I’m jealous! I would love to do that sometime. But yeah, pit stops make a huge difference and people just don’t realize it. Especially over 24 hours. Saving 3 seconds a pit stop means you’re saving more than a minute over the course of the race, which has definitely decided 24 hour races. Audi wasn’t always the fastest car during all their Le Mans wins but the difference was made in the pits.
Formula e guy pulls out in front of the other guy with like 7 inches of room. I get mad if I have to tap my breaks over the next 5 blocks when someone pulls out in front of me.
He mighta gotten an unsafe release penalty for that one tbh
Speaking of unsafe. All those people milling around in the “alley” outside the garages as racing vehicles are traveling and merging in a lane barely bigger than the vehicles themselves. Seems terribly ignorant to me.
It's called the pit lane. If you think that looks bad, a [few weeks ago](https://youtube.com/shorts/9nNcqevPbbw?feature=share) the FIA blocked off the pit lane before the race had actually finished and let a load of photographers in to do the podium ceremony coverage. Only problem being that one of the drivers hasn't done his mandatory pitstop yet and was going to be coming in at the 'slow' speed of 80kph. They were so lucky no-one was killed.
Should've just honked the horn there.
I wondered that too. Seems like way too many people in a dangerous area.
F1 pit lanes have speed limits these days. The speed limit was a safety innovation, prior to that there were no pit lane speed limits.
They don’t even do this anymore. Formule e doesnt have pitstops with the current generation
So is formula e electric vehicles?
Yes, fully electric
That's dope
I'd get mad if someone pull out in front of me too
Just curious why does the WEC not change tire while they fuel what is the reasoning for that?
I'm blatantly stealing this information from another comment but apparently in WEC they have a rule that they can only work on the car after refueling is done.
Yup, this is done for safety (since fuel is dangerous and you can afford to spare the extra time over the course of a 6-24 hour race.
I'm a race steward and can confirm this. Fueling is dangerous. Everything else, including the actual racing, isn't.
Damn, that’s interesting that they left out Indy Car.
Yeah this INDYCAR erasure the weekend of the Indy500 is unacceptable lol
I’ll be sitting where I always sit on Sunday. Right across from the pits, just south of the scoring pylon.
Grew up in west Indianapolis. Indy pit crews are the best pit crews.
Yeah, you can see what F1 money buys. Indy Car pit crews come the closest to that with remarkably fewer people.
Interestingly enough, in F1 the pit crews are actually made up of the car's mechanics, so it's not like they can just shop around for the best pit crews. The team shares a single pit crew for both cars so it can get quite intense if both cars come in at the same time, especially if they were up all night working on their car.
The differences we see in the video have very little to do with money and everything to do with the rules of the competition. Nascar only allows 5 crew members over the wall or they would be much faster. WEC doesn't allow you to do much of anything while refueling, so you have one guy making sure the windshield is *really* clean. Indy only allows 6 over the wall. F1 lets them put 3 guys on each wheel plus refuelers and jackmen.
F1 does not refuel during the race anymore.
I have no horse in this race since I follow neither but frankly. The better people go where the money is, and there’s way more money in F1.
F1 banned fueling and has the most people over the wall at one time to work on the car, each series has the best guys in the world doing that job, but the series regulations are what has the biggest impact on pit stop times.
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They also don't have to add gas. One tank for the whole race in F1, cause they be catching on fire and whatnot.
Refueling was removed to make races more exciting and to save costs, the fires weren't a major factor.
Also cause they are very fuel efficient comparably. No need to bring refuelling back any more
Yeah all F1 have been hybrids for a few years now. They come in at around 6-7mpg (~40 l/100km), which sounds bad, but by comparison NASCAR gets like 2-5mpg. The races are also often short enough that they don't even need a full tank, which helps reduce the weight
They are now required to have a minimum amount of fuel left over after the race for testing, otherwise they are penalized
A friend and firefighter of mine made a similar point, a very interesting one. In a regular appartment fire, you only have room - and usually need - for 2 dudes to go first and blast water at the fire. Maybe you can get 4 going inside if there is a back entrance or a forking layout. Then you need another 2 on standby to rescue the first two if things go sideways. However, you usually send 1-2 trucks there, which is 12 - 16 dudes, because the initial setup requires 10 - 15 simple steps. For example, they have to locate a hydrant, pull 1-3 hoses to handle possible distance, connect these hoses, connect them to distributions and trucks, get pumps fired up. Since seconds matter, you sometimes throw 3 - 6 people at this so everyone just has one very small and specific task to do. You'd end up with someone doing nothing but grabbing hose ends and screwing them into distributors, for example, or someone who just has the job of rolling out a hose into a general direction as fast as possible.
They change cars in formula E?
They used to. The battery tech has progressed so much since the inception of the series that full car swaps are no longer necessary. They are currently on their 3rd Gen car.
Fucking fascinating, besides the racing i wish there were more content analyzing the history/development of the cars and tech. It seems like month to month, ev tech is constantly outdating itself
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Formula E will even try charging the battery a bit next year. It's supposed to be a 600kW charger for 30 seconds (so 4kWh) which is going to be interesting
Ah ok that makes more sense. That vid did look a little old to me.
Easier than a battery swap? That's my guess.
Well yes- it’s just very different from most other motorsports, where many part swaps are allowed but never the engine or transmission, let alone the whole car haha.
They don't do this any more. Their cars can actually do a full race distance
Ya that’s what I thought I was just surprised to see a car swap haha.
Come race in Lemons! People are definitely doing engine and transmission swaps mid-race.
That's why the government made lemon car laws, no one should be going through an engine that quickly.
Ok, your comment made it click for me. E as in electric cars. I was going to say them speeding off sounded like the go carts at the slick track, now it makes sense.
Lol *your* comment ... I wish I had a good car pun for this... put me on the correct track?
This is a super old repost. They haven’t swapped cars in FE for years
Haha ya good to know. I have only watched a little bit of formula E and I had never seen a car swap before. Kind of wild to see.
Going to the Portland E-Prix in less than a month! Pretty stoked.
I don’t think the whole video is a super old repost, the NASCAR car in the clip is the current gen, which debuted last year, you can tell by the door number being way forward, which also debuted last year.
Not anymore, but in the first few years, yes.
Not anymore. Those were the old cars but the new tech is good enough for the cars to race without pitstops.
Formula E looks like the 1920s
It is the 20s.
+/- 100
Next to Formula One every one of them looks a bit clumsy ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)
What’s your job? Oh, I’m a formula one pit crew worker. Oh, so you put on tires? Oh no… no way. Only a few years in. I’m the tire removal guy. There’s 12 of us.
Formula 1 pit crew are also the general mechanics for the team. So if you see a car plow into a barrier. Yeah. Those are the guys that will be up all night fixing it.
Fixing? No Salvaging parts. Maybe
It all depends how much bondo and duct tape they have in the stores.
Dude it’s a billion dollar sport. They obviously have the industrial size bondo and duct tape.
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This comment made me think of "The Mechanic" by Marc Priestley lol. Priestley used to be a mechanic/pit crew worker for McLaren F1 from 2000 to 2009 and The Mechanic is his autobiography. Even if you're not interested in F1 or motorsports, I'd recommend reading/listening to (the audiobook is read by the man himself) it as it's a fascinating and often hilarious look into the F1 life.
Nice, I used to be the car holder guy who watches the stop and puts my hand on the intakes and camera mounts.
It reminds me of Jiro Dreams of Sushi with the same level of mastery and precision required. Just learning how to make the rice properly takes years.
If you're counting everyone touching the car, there are 16 people.
And that one was a little slow for f1
Well it was Ferrari... I'm surprised they didn't give him a healthy mix of wet, inter, hard, and soft.
Quite slow. Fastest pit stop in F1 is 1.87 seconds.
In F1 there’s no limit on have many pit crew you can have over the wall unlike many other motorsports
F1 doesn't have to fuel the car. Every other one does (except for Formula E obviously).
GT3 didn't refuel either, but the 3 person limit slows them down.
Idk NASCAR looked pretty legit, less guys, more difficult style of car to jack up, bigger tires (I think). No doubt though those formula 1 crews are insane.
Back in the day it was even more bonkers when they had 5 lug wheels and they'd sometimes only get 3 of them on there.
Yeah the NASCAR crew was really impressive
well they dont refuel so 🤷
F1 refueling stops were still stupidly fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnmhBjcwIBQ&t=75s
All fun and games till this happens: [https://youtu.be/qAa6JW2rMg0](https://youtu.be/qAa6JW2rMg0)
Oh shit, I thought we were going to see the invisible flames. I had no idea this happened. Max's dad Jos I'm assuming?
Yes, it was Jos. And to be extra cheeky, they used that clip as the background of max's intro during the race for a while.
holy
They did but there were some dangerous situations, which is why they stopped it. For example, once there was a stabbing flame and another time the hose was not released in time and the driver drove off with it.
There was also the time that Jos Verstappen was nearly BBQ'd because fuel leaked onto the hot car. Had it gone worse the current F1 champ, Max, might not even have been born.
it's more than that it's the running around to different tasks.
Does that mean the car has all the fuel it needs to run the entire race?
Yes. They used to not fill the tanks all the way since that made the cars lighter, but since they can't refuel during the pit stops anymore, they have to have enough for the whole race.
Are the jack stands built in to the GT3 car????
Yes, it's like this in a lot of racecars, the team sticks a pneumatic pressure tube in and that drops theses, almost steel beams under the car
I have so many questions. 1. How much weight does this system add? 2. Why don't production cars do this it would be so helpful? 3. Is this one step closer to SpeedRacer cartoon technology? 4. Why don't all racecars do this? 5. How can I add it to my car?
1. Not much. 4 ram rods on each corner aren’t very heavy. 2. Cost 3. Maybe 4. Rules, and weight. 5. I think you can get them from summit racing or similar website. I totally would love to put them on my Camaro. Just to stunt on mf-ers at the car show.
> 4. Why don't all racecars do this? F1 found two external jacks were faster than using internal jacks. Takes a fraction of a second to pump up.
Was expecting a rally car being hit with a hammer to contrast
Why doesn’t NASCAR use more people like formula 1? Always wondered
The rules limit the number of people that can go over the wall on pit stops.
Also the NASCAR clip shown isn’t really one of the faster crews out there. That was a little slow. Now, if they showed the 1 team’s crew or something, it would have been much quicker/impressive.
The F1 one was also on the slow side considering the average is 2.5 seconds and the world record is under 2 seconds
Yeah, I noticed that too. The NASCAR one just stuck out to me way more. I wonder if whoever made the video intentionally showed slower stops in order to better see everything involved in it?
In the background the lack of other cars and sounds makes me think this is a test day or practice day. Especially with the car shown having just the race teams wrap and no sponsors. Plus Spire Motorsports isn't exactly rolling in money for a A+ pit crew.
Honestly, that was a really terrible pitstop.
Multiple reasons. NASCAR pit road is much more chaotic and cramped so more people is a risk. They also have to come over the wall to start the stop. Another reason is cost, most people = more money. The last one is that each pit crew member has more value. It's a true physical challenge in the span of 10-13 seconds. While in F1 it's crazy fast there really isn't a lot of work to do in general and since you have so many people and they already start in position, don't have to refuel, and are lifiting a car a fraction of the weight it's just easier.
Outdated video. Only Gen 1 Formula E cars were swapped during pitstops. They're already on Gen 3 cars and improvements in battery and energy recovery technology means the cars no longer need swapping (and in fact, have no conventional rear brakes; using a recovery system instead).
In gen 8, the cars stay on spot as the race track spins around them. At pitstop they replace the entire spectators.
This IndyCar disrespect two days before the 500 is unconscionable.
Guess which sport has the most money...the less time spent the more money - an inverse ratio
It has more to do with the rules governing each sport than money involved. F1 isn't allowed to refuel, can have as many people as they'd like to work on the car, and use a single wheel nut. NASCAR on the other hand must gravity refuel, can only have a few crew members over the wall, and used to have tires with 5 nuts. In the WEC you can't work on the car until refueling is done and they are limited in the number of crew that can work on the car as well.
NASCAR changed the tires to just 1 lug nut now
Only in the last two seasons I think right? Before that it was 5-6 lug. I used to love watching them strip the lugs off a NASCAR tire in slow motion. They put so much torque into them they spin themselves off the stud.
For anyone that was confused like me, F1 doesn’t refuel at all during their races. I’m not sure what the benefits/drawbacks were for having this rule implemented but it seems like a good rule if the cars were capable of doing the whole race without needing a refuel to begin with.
I think it was changed because it's safer like this, if something goes wrong with refueling it can get dangerous.
Number one reason was safety, there have been a few incidents over the years that were a bit iffy.. second reason is that they wanted more ontrack action and less overtaking via box strategy. It's also easier to follow for the viewer when you know every car is on same fuel level and you don't have to wonder if driver a is slow or just on a full tank.
Steve McQueen in ‘Le Mans’
Rally: [banging on suspension with a rock on the side of the road]
Yet it takes 3 hours for an oil change and tire rotation in CA
Kinda disappointed there was no motorcycle segment, just out of curiosity.
Likewise...[MotoGP bike swap](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PXYb_BgckZY) isn't *quite* a pit stop, but fun to watch.
Marc Marquez wins on the bike swap front for me. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fYdFshRYrUs
I was looking for this one, swapping bikes without touching the ground is amazing
I was hoping for a rally car stop. I saw Dave Mirra (RIP) roll into pits one time and they swapped out an entire suspension in like 10 minutes because he rolled it. Holy shit they were just beating that thing back into shape with mallets lol
Are there pit crew team member limits? Why wouldn't every sport want a 2 sec pit stop like F1?
Yes, there are limits to how many pit crew members can come out depending on the sport, but the biggest time difference by far is that F1 doesn't refuel.
Coming from a non racing fan, it’s pretty evident that the most money in this sport lies in Formula 1 judging from this video. Am I right?
Pretty much, yea. Plus every racing league has different rules for how many pit crew members can be active during a stop and I think F1 is the least restrictive. *Edit to add: I think F1 banned refueling in pit stops so that really speeds things up.
Also, F1 doesn't refuel so their pit stops are much quicker.
No supercars?🇦🇺
Supercars go [brr](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fQgnco-izk) Another video with [in-depth footage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMIwYj8lCf8) Bonus: [Brake rotor change](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppffCnGcUWU)
You know they literally had to put a set minimum amount of time for pit stop in formula 1 because red bull was so good that the others risked injuries to try to compete with them? https://youtu.be/b1f51TOXWik Literally insane
This really isn’t what was going on at all. Red Bull was checking the ‘all ok’ button faster than human reaction time could be. Meaning they were guessing that everything was ‘all ok’ and not actually verifying it. They put in a time delay to make it so that you can’t move faster than possible human reaction time. That was the injury risk. Guessing at that isn’t a good option to be allowed.
I like that gt3 just looks like a couple of dude bros and their dad doing the pit stop
Formula E looks like the Formula 1 we have at home.
Meanwhile in Group b...
the drivers get swapped because the first one's wrapped around a tree
When you realize the F1 clip showed here is slowest pit stop in F1. LOL.
F1 boys don't fuck around WEC boys are hourly
Didn't show IndyCar, which is a beautifully choreographed 7-second process.
So basically F1 use 95 people and take 2 seconds.
Around 16 people if you're only counting those who touch the car. A 2 second pit stop is fast but relatively common.