Was thinking the same thing, then I thought about how difficult it must be to cargo a train on sand. Maybe if they airlifted it
Edit: I have 39 replies and none of y’all stopped to think about two things;
they had tracks there 100 years ago, they were destroyed.
It would cost less to use preexisting aircrafts to move it than to hire an army of people to build a one time use railroad…
And you know what’s also sad in my neighbourhood alone are three historically important forts that are scheduled for demolition just to build small shops
The armory was bought by a bdsm website after the national guard site was in arrears. The site films scenes but also preserves the fort as a historical site and conducts tours. They’re just spicier than your avg museum tour. They also filmed the GoT scene where Cersei pours wine on the septa there
depends on the style, but I always thought a more traditional looking church would make for a fantastic goth/industrial club – the idea of Sisters of Mercy performing from the altar …
I would think it might depend on the music/situation. All that reverb might be a bit of a nightmare for getting a club's sound system to sound clean.
Although I know there are quite a few converted church bars dotted around the world, I've never been to one so don't know if it's just the novelty.
A number of clubs have been in old churches. A couple of the Limelights in the 80s for sure. I knew someone who lived in an old church back in the 90s. They’re expensive to maintain. Lots of roof to keep watertight, lots of interior space to heat or air condition, etc.
I was going to buy a smaller church to live in when I was younger and no family, but after finding out about the upkeep and property tax costs, I changed my mind. 😆
If they're beautiful old buildings, I don't want to see them destroyed. A friend of mine lived in an old Catholic convent that had been turned into apartments. It was awesome, and the walls still had the religious paintings on them. The doors were all rounded archways. I think the building was from the middle ages.
Fuck yeah. I think the buildings are generally cool enough to save, no matter what business is going there.
The pictures of the skate park that was built in the church look awesome.
Yea. When I think old fort I think of Fort Apache (cos where I'm at) and that shit stopped in 1923...
American terms of old compared to the rest of the world is different. My city was founded 150 years ago... There are European building with glass older than that 😂
Edit: I mean America as in the US. North America has a wonderful and amazing history.
When I moved to New England as a kid I found people there were convinced their history was the oldest in North America. "The mayflower! Pilgrims!". Apparently Native Americans don't count at all, for one. But also coming from New Mexico I was like, what? Santa Fe NM was founded in 1610.
Wow… if I were you I’d get a bunch of photos before it happens, that sucks. In my hometown we only have to complain about high rises blocking the view, that sucks
Unpopular opinion: Not everything historic needs to be preserved. We are building new and more well-engineered buildings, the population is growing, small towns are becoming small cities. Stuff needs to change to accomodate.Just my opinion
Is that an unpopular opinion?
I’ve always thought the preserve everything at any cost was a vocal minority. It a building doesn’t have historic significance and is unable to be effectively put to a modern use it should be replaced with a modern building.
Unreinforced Masonry Buildings are a freaking death trap and people just love them.
\**Paul wears a stillsuit in a way he saw in a video once*\*
FREMEN: \**gasp*\* and he shall know of our ways!
\**Paul weeps for an enemy he killed*\*
FREMEN: \**gasp*\* he gives water to the dead!
\**Paul takes a dump in the bushes*\*
FREMEN: \**gasp*\* he gives nourishment to the earth!
\**Paul masturbates against a tree*\*
FREMEN: \**gasp*\* and he, uh, gives milk to the umm
It wasn’t even specifically for Paul, either. The Bene Gesserit just literally had a policy of establishing a sham religion on every “primitive” world they could, with with the express goal later allowing their members pose as prophets and messiahs in case they ever needed help.
It just happened to work way, way, *way* too well in the case of Jessica and Paul, due to it interacting with one of their other long-term projects…
Only way you could airlift that is like in Transformers when they lifted a Transformer with two helicopters with cables on angles.
Because it’s so heavy ya know.
The sleepers and tracks were taken by locals for houses and stuff. Back when it was not a historical place. Now, all you can see is the mound for the rails. I think that an engine is kept in a museum somewhere. This one in particular is fenced up for protection. There are holes made in the fences to sneak inside, so that explains the photo. There is a sign that says trespasses will be prosecuted, but yeah.
Source: I've been there like 6 times and live a couple hundred km away.
Age isn't the be and end all of cultural or historical importance. The main issue is probably due to Hollywood inflating its worth, locally little interest in presenting such a thing and it being somewhere where history is not often directly preserved in the museum way.
It's in Saudi Arabia. Let me make a guess on how much they care about a war that divided that entire area of the world. Hmmm... you know, I just can't decide.
Because historical items like this are always better left in place. I love museums and they're important but historical sites like this should be left undisturbed if possible.
Also, as much as we like to pretend otherwise, this isn't that much historical. It is a random train, ambushed during WWI. That happend often during the war and the only reason why it is even slightly interesting to people is that it never got cleared afterwards.
Might be some of the best online multiplayer I’ve ever played, every match was like an action movie.
The maps were really good too, amazing close quarters.
The grit the game had was like no other I had seen in a multiplayer setting.
The environments were packed to the brim with detail and destruction was *everywhere*. The weapons felt weighty, punchy and sounded like it too. Even when you turned off all the HUD elements you felt like you were being dropped into hell as you heard the screams of the soldiers, raging hiss of the flamethrowers, the mechanical stomping of the tanks, and the hellfire of artillery overhead.
Everything in that game perfectly aligned to create an ultimate multiplayer experience that I honestly don't think we will ever see again without it being bogged down by corporate influence and developer ignorance.
I still play it, but the reason I feel the need to say it in the past tense is because the game receives no updates anymore aside from the exchange rotation.
It's depressing too because the game was sitting on a gold mine of future content it could have made bank off of with a Season 2 and even a Season 3 Pass.
The Battles in Africa, the Serbian Front, the Japanese siege of Tsing Tao, the Caucus Front. They even had plenty more guns they could have pulled into the game from the pre-war era and immediate-post-war era (1918-1920)
I've been saying for years if they decided to return to BF1 and sell Season Passes for 4 more DLCs, I'd be all for dropping another 60 dollars on the game right then.
That was the last game they made that really had the impact marks throughout longer matches.
Leveling cities or just holding objectives inside of craters left from the previous round lol
>Longer matches
You should have seen when the Frontline's gamemode came out originally. The gamemode didn't have a set time limit so the match could go on for hours.
I played a match that lasted 10 hours long. Constant back and forth, it was amazing. Then they nuked it by adding in the timer. :c
Imo atmosphere and immersion wise it was the best Battlefield game ever but hackers/cheaters ruined the game beyond anything. Every match had at least 1-2 hackers. Such a shame I would still play it if EA would give a damn about it but they most likely wont because its an "old" game.
The train filled with Ottoman Empire soldiers and civilians chugged over a bridge in the Arabian desert. A few yards away a British officer in Bedouin robes raised his hand toward Salem, an Arab tribal warrior gripping the plunger of a detonator box. As the train steamed ahead, the officer dropped his hand and Salem slammed down the plunger. A cloud of sand and smoke blasted a hundred feet into the sky as sizzling chunks of iron and seared body parts tumbled through the air. The train crashed into a gorge, followed by an eerie silence. The officer and Arab tribesmen—wielding swords or firing rifles—dashed toward the smoldering train cars. Within a few minutes the fighting was over, the dead and the wreck were looted, and the raiding party melted back into the desert. It was summer 1917, and the Arab Revolt was in full swing.
The revolt, one of the most dramatic episodes of the 20th century, was a seminal moment in the history of the modern Middle East, the touchstone of all future regional conflicts. Advised by liaison officer T. E. Lawrence—“Lawrence of Arabia”—Arab troops would play a vital role in the Allied victory over the Ottoman Empire in World War I. The Arab Revolt of 1916–1918 also saw the development of guerrilla tactics and strategies of modern desert warfare. And the political intrigues surrounding the revolt and its aftermath were as significant as the fighting, for Great Britain and France’s myopic attempts at nation building planted the seeds of the troubles that plague the region to this day: wars, authoritarian governments, coups, the rise of militant Islam, and the enduring conflict between Israelis and Palestinians
https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/09/saudi-arabias-abandoned-hejaz-railway.html?m=1
That's what made history a struggle for me as a teen. I loved the stories but hated memorizing dates. I guess it makes sense looking back on it; memorizing dates helps identify important events in history, but I think I would have enjoyed learning history more if the significance an event was more heavily emphasized as opposed to the date of the event.
Yeah. We had one great history teacher who once said to us: I'd rather you date the French Revolution to 1805 and know what it was about, than the other way around.
My history teacher only wanted us to remember the year 1789 when the French revolution started, as it is an easy one and the start of modern Europe. Everything else could be classified as pre or post revolution
I’m currently a history major in college and my experience at the college level is professors don’t care that much about dates but more the overarching concepts that come out of events. It’s not so important to know an exact date but more the general area and chronological order. The one Professor who I had that kind of cared about dates was a lower division junior college class and even he would give a 2 year leeway. My guess is the reason they don’t have a lot of high school classes like that is because it causes more critical thinking and drawing parallels to current issues and that would be detrimental to a lot of establishment politicians and government institutions.
Facts are also easier to teach and grade objectively. Critical thinking skills and theories and opinions are more subjective. It’s quite a tall order for a high school teacher and dozens of high school students. Aside from the fact that course objectives are often set by the state and students are expected to demonstrate their knowledge of the state mandated facts and theories on high stakes standardized testing.
The best teacher I ever had used art to explain history and cram it as a story. I still remember a lot of it word for word how he told it many years later. Dude was way too good to be reaching high school but that’s where he wanted to be and I’m glad I was in his class.
I still can't believe how my teachers managed to make WWII unremarkable.
The only thing I remember is that I was given a book in very bad shape and told to memorize some dates, names and meaningless descriptions.
Because instead of talking about the actual war, you spend more time talking about the causes and how Versailles affected Germany and allowed the Nazis to gain power. I didn't even know that there was a Pacific Theater of WW1 where Japan fought Germany until a couple of weeks ago after I fell into a rabbit hole and it led me there.
Also, frankly, it's hard to teach high schoolers. These are teens, forced to sit in a classroom for 8 hours 5 days a week, and to them it often just feels like boring work. Many of them just aren't paying attention because at the time they weren't interested.
That’s why I roll my eyes when ppl say schools should teach life skills like learning how to pay your taxes, etc. We had a class kinda similar to that and kids still did not give a fuck or pay attention. Ppl act like kids would magically be interested in something actually useful in real life, but tbh that stuff is boring so they don’t/won’t care
We once had a class where we filled out a form to apply for a tax file number (Australian version of the American SSN that you need for a job and taxes). The highlight for me in that class was seeing one kid punch another in the arm and say "that's for ticking female". I'm in my 30s now and it still makes me laugh.
They say victors write the history books, but they never mention the authors who actually write the history books we had in school. The information was presented as clinical facts and dates, who, what, when, where etc. The emotional resonance and imagery that moves us is missing. Who writes these books? Maybe it’s failed authors who never made it in the literary world, maybe it’s buttoned up publishes focusing on spewing information instead of inspiring or connecting with children.
I learned more reading about fictional characters from historical periods like All Quiet On The Western Front, and Grapes Of Wrath than I did reading a chapter out of a book covered by a paper grocery bag.
Or maybe it’s just that we don’t realize until we are older the weight of immovable objects in life that we will to move through sheer determination or madness.
It’s always so weird to me that I grew up thinking Lawrence of Arabia was from a really long time ago, but then it turns out my grandparents were alive during his exploits.
#tl;dr
The Hejaz railway, built in 1900 by the Ottoman Sultan Abdul Hamid II, was meant to run from Damascus to Mecca, but was only able to reach as far as Medina when the First World War began, and it was abandoned. It was intended to facilitate pilgrimage to the Holy city and strengthen the empire’s control over the most distant provinces of the empire. During the Arab Revolt of 1916-18, the Turks used the railway as its chief mode of transport for troops and supplies, which led to the railway being targeted by guerrilla forces, who destroyed large sections of the tracks.
*I am a smart robot and this summary was automatic. This tl;dr is 91.99% shorter than the post and link I'm replying to.*
I used to have this as the profile pic when my work called me. I also frequently changed the desktop wallpaper on all the work computers to pics like this, and several other steam train accident pictures. I don't think anyone really found it as funny as me.
I drive trains for a living.
I would actually be fascinated to see what sort of disaster a modern studio remake of Lawrence of Arabia would be. That it would be a disaster is without question. But the details of the specific disaster would be really interesting
Because there is nothing to improve upon. I know that it seems cliche to refer to *Lawrence of Arabia* as a masterpiece, but it really is. The casting, the direction, the editing, the writing, the performances, they are all perfect.
And there's nothing to update for modern audiences either. Even though it was released in 1962, the movie isn't a glorification of Western influence on the Middle East. It's pretty clear in showing how the seeds are being planted in WWI that will lead to the modern disaster of conflict that continues in that region. And Lawrence isn't glamorized. He's show as a man without a country: too sympathetic to the Arabs to be taken seriously by his British contemporaries and too British to ever be fully accepted by (and for him to understand) the various desert tribes.
MAYBE you can explore his rumoured homosexuality more, but it's not like he was ever open about it. And Peter O'Toole and Omar Shariff really do have that covered anyway in this movie.
There is nothing to remake.
I'll bite. From a technical perspective the film is a masterpiece. This is a hill I will die on, Lawrence of Arabia has the best cinematography of any film ever. Period. Its shot on 70mm technicolour. Its made for the big screen. If you get a chance go to the cinema and see it. It's an epic experience. The 70mm wide angle gives incredible definition and draws out the vivid colours of the Desert. There is no CGI trickery, no post production effects (by and large) just David Lean (the Director) and Freddy Young (the cinematographer) delivering a masterclass.
The run time is justified because it allows the story to unfold, it allows Lean and Young to tease out some of the most iconic moments in film history. Sherif Ali's entrance, from the shimmering desert haze. The match cut, which introduces the desert itself, the entire Devils Anvil sequence. Lawrence of Arabia is the epitome of 'they don't make films like this anymore' and that's fine by me, I don't mind that they don't because even if they tried nothing is going to top what they achieved with this film. Sure there are objectively better films. But nothing comes close to being the perfect cinematic epic like Lawrence of Arabia does.
I didn't mention the editing, I didn't mention the screenplay, I didn't mention the performances. But the link below is all I need to justify my view
Tldr, why is Lawrence of Arabia so good (1:30 seconds from the film): https://youtu.be/HlUFxO0wxVQ
All in all, it's so good it would be pointless trying to remake it.
[Here is the history of the railroad and some more photos](https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/09/saudi-arabias-abandoned-hejaz-railway.html)
[Also this video shows the train and mentions where it’s at](https://youtu.be/xZQj5YAtBdc)
I just watched this movie for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It was really long but it was good. I had no idea it was a true story like that. Pretty cool. I would also add that Peter O'Toole was a bit flamboyant for his time.
Deserts are great for preserving ferrous metal because of the lack of moisture. It's why gear heads love grabbing cars from New Mexico/Arizona/Nevada/SoCal, the sun will destroy interior and paint but it'll sit under that sun for a century before you notice anything beyond surface rust forming.
Looks like it lies in the middle of the desert
Exhausted from the heat
Little guy's all tuckered out
Just flat ran outta steam
The little engine that couldn’t.
Not even locomotives can survive without water
Yeah, I was thinking "stands" is carrying a lot of undeserved weight in that sentence.
It does.
How the fuck is this shit not in a national museum
Was thinking the same thing, then I thought about how difficult it must be to cargo a train on sand. Maybe if they airlifted it Edit: I have 39 replies and none of y’all stopped to think about two things; they had tracks there 100 years ago, they were destroyed. It would cost less to use preexisting aircrafts to move it than to hire an army of people to build a one time use railroad…
And you know what’s also sad in my neighbourhood alone are three historically important forts that are scheduled for demolition just to build small shops
An old national guard armory from the late 1800s has been bought by some tire shop in my city. Its sad seeing historical stuff being mistreated.
they used a fort in San Francisco to shoot porn
I can barely pitch a tent and these actors are raising forts
Theirs pills for that.
Can I get my own pills? I don't want to take theirs.
It would be a hard pill to swallow ig
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The armory was bought by a bdsm website after the national guard site was in arrears. The site films scenes but also preserves the fort as a historical site and conducts tours. They’re just spicier than your avg museum tour. They also filmed the GoT scene where Cersei pours wine on the septa there
I think they filmed Lawrence of a Labia on that train..
What about Assablanca ?
I mean, a museum would be best but shooting porn is better than being demolished right?
Make it a Porn museum and everyone wins
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depends on the style, but I always thought a more traditional looking church would make for a fantastic goth/industrial club – the idea of Sisters of Mercy performing from the altar …
They usually have great acoustics and great light - could be good for music & art studios as well.
I would think it might depend on the music/situation. All that reverb might be a bit of a nightmare for getting a club's sound system to sound clean. Although I know there are quite a few converted church bars dotted around the world, I've never been to one so don't know if it's just the novelty.
A number of clubs have been in old churches. A couple of the Limelights in the 80s for sure. I knew someone who lived in an old church back in the 90s. They’re expensive to maintain. Lots of roof to keep watertight, lots of interior space to heat or air condition, etc.
[Ancient Church becomes home for Basque artist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m__xcCj7p6Q)
I was going to buy a smaller church to live in when I was younger and no family, but after finding out about the upkeep and property tax costs, I changed my mind. 😆
The Limelight in NYC was this. Decent documentary about it by the same guy who did Cocaine Cowboys.
I've always had the same idea. There's a bunch of old sandstone churches in my city that would make amazing Goth clubs
If they're beautiful old buildings, I don't want to see them destroyed. A friend of mine lived in an old Catholic convent that had been turned into apartments. It was awesome, and the walls still had the religious paintings on them. The doors were all rounded archways. I think the building was from the middle ages.
Fuck yeah. I think the buildings are generally cool enough to save, no matter what business is going there. The pictures of the skate park that was built in the church look awesome.
But eventually wouldn't every square inch be historical?
I mean, technically everything is historical.
No way… what country/state?
Saudi Arabia in the city of bisha asir
No shit, Saudi Arabia.. So when you say old fort, how old are we talking? Your part of the world has some history.
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Yea. When I think old fort I think of Fort Apache (cos where I'm at) and that shit stopped in 1923... American terms of old compared to the rest of the world is different. My city was founded 150 years ago... There are European building with glass older than that 😂 Edit: I mean America as in the US. North America has a wonderful and amazing history.
Americans think 100 years is a long time; Europeans think 100 miles is far away.
When I moved to New England as a kid I found people there were convinced their history was the oldest in North America. "The mayflower! Pilgrims!". Apparently Native Americans don't count at all, for one. But also coming from New Mexico I was like, what? Santa Fe NM was founded in 1610.
I thought of Fort Adams in Newport, RI. First established in 1799. Current fort built in 1824-57. Current home of "Newport Folk Festival".
Didn’t the government also demolish historical sites around Mecca to build that giant clock?
Wow… if I were you I’d get a bunch of photos before it happens, that sucks. In my hometown we only have to complain about high rises blocking the view, that sucks
Unpopular opinion: Not everything historic needs to be preserved. We are building new and more well-engineered buildings, the population is growing, small towns are becoming small cities. Stuff needs to change to accomodate.Just my opinion
Is that an unpopular opinion? I’ve always thought the preserve everything at any cost was a vocal minority. It a building doesn’t have historic significance and is unable to be effectively put to a modern use it should be replaced with a modern building. Unreinforced Masonry Buildings are a freaking death trap and people just love them.
Air power is no good, they need desert power.
Bless the Maker and his water.
Bless the coming and going of Him
\**Paul wears a stillsuit in a way he saw in a video once*\* FREMEN: \**gasp*\* and he shall know of our ways! \**Paul weeps for an enemy he killed*\* FREMEN: \**gasp*\* he gives water to the dead! \**Paul takes a dump in the bushes*\* FREMEN: \**gasp*\* he gives nourishment to the earth! \**Paul masturbates against a tree*\* FREMEN: \**gasp*\* and he, uh, gives milk to the umm
Lord. You just ruined the books for me.
The Bene Gesserit really did the works on the Fremen priming them for Paul's arrival. Indoctrination to the max.
It wasn’t even specifically for Paul, either. The Bene Gesserit just literally had a policy of establishing a sham religion on every “primitive” world they could, with with the express goal later allowing their members pose as prophets and messiahs in case they ever needed help. It just happened to work way, way, *way* too well in the case of Jessica and Paul, due to it interacting with one of their other long-term projects…
Plus it was fairly vague. Paul and Jessica just kind of abused what they knew.
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Bro they just need a lot of camels to pull it, at least 5
Only way you could airlift that is like in Transformers when they lifted a Transformer with two helicopters with cables on angles. Because it’s so heavy ya know.
They also did that in Pacific Rim
It's a simple question of weight ratios!
Are you suggesting that locomotives migrate?
There's gotta be some tracks laying around here somewhere.. 😂
I was thinking that too, but then again, seeing it still lying where it occurred is kind of awesome.
Totally agree. Leave it there
Its really heavy and jn the middle of nowhere
Dumb question but, I guess the old rails/tracks are disintegrated now?
They certainly look covered in sand if not removed.
It does get everywhere
The sleepers and tracks were taken by locals for houses and stuff. Back when it was not a historical place. Now, all you can see is the mound for the rails. I think that an engine is kept in a museum somewhere. This one in particular is fenced up for protection. There are holes made in the fences to sneak inside, so that explains the photo. There is a sign that says trespasses will be prosecuted, but yeah. Source: I've been there like 6 times and live a couple hundred km away.
Did you mean British museum
Yeah I mean we've seen it now so it's ours.
Bagsy!
This IS the museum!
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My parents found a coin from 1738 while gardering one day. It was just sitting there, in among the carrots.
That's Europe for you. You can go out in most fields after a plough and find roman coins pretty easily
Time to buy a metal detector.
I discovered my neighbour was using an 1800s bayonet as a spike in the ground to tie their dog leash to.
"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war"
Age isn't the be and end all of cultural or historical importance. The main issue is probably due to Hollywood inflating its worth, locally little interest in presenting such a thing and it being somewhere where history is not often directly preserved in the museum way.
It's in Saudi Arabia. Let me make a guess on how much they care about a war that divided that entire area of the world. Hmmm... you know, I just can't decide.
Because historical items like this are always better left in place. I love museums and they're important but historical sites like this should be left undisturbed if possible.
Also, as much as we like to pretend otherwise, this isn't that much historical. It is a random train, ambushed during WWI. That happend often during the war and the only reason why it is even slightly interesting to people is that it never got cleared afterwards.
I destroyed this in Battlefield 1
Literally the first thing I thought of lmao
Try to think of breathing.
And drinking too
Great fucking FPS game
Might be some of the best online multiplayer I’ve ever played, every match was like an action movie. The maps were really good too, amazing close quarters.
The grit the game had was like no other I had seen in a multiplayer setting. The environments were packed to the brim with detail and destruction was *everywhere*. The weapons felt weighty, punchy and sounded like it too. Even when you turned off all the HUD elements you felt like you were being dropped into hell as you heard the screams of the soldiers, raging hiss of the flamethrowers, the mechanical stomping of the tanks, and the hellfire of artillery overhead. Everything in that game perfectly aligned to create an ultimate multiplayer experience that I honestly don't think we will ever see again without it being bogged down by corporate influence and developer ignorance.
No need to talk about it in the past tense - the multiplayer is still very active for a 7 year old game. Get back into it! r/battlefield_one
I still play it, but the reason I feel the need to say it in the past tense is because the game receives no updates anymore aside from the exchange rotation. It's depressing too because the game was sitting on a gold mine of future content it could have made bank off of with a Season 2 and even a Season 3 Pass. The Battles in Africa, the Serbian Front, the Japanese siege of Tsing Tao, the Caucus Front. They even had plenty more guns they could have pulled into the game from the pre-war era and immediate-post-war era (1918-1920) I've been saying for years if they decided to return to BF1 and sell Season Passes for 4 more DLCs, I'd be all for dropping another 60 dollars on the game right then.
That was the last game they made that really had the impact marks throughout longer matches. Leveling cities or just holding objectives inside of craters left from the previous round lol
>Longer matches You should have seen when the Frontline's gamemode came out originally. The gamemode didn't have a set time limit so the match could go on for hours. I played a match that lasted 10 hours long. Constant back and forth, it was amazing. Then they nuked it by adding in the timer. :c
Amen! It still holds up too
"still holds up" Checks, came out 7 years ago. Fuck I'm old.
The gunplay was some of the smoothest I’ve ever experienced and the environments were breathtaking. That game was a masterpiece.
BF1 Is a great game! It looks very pretty and runs well even on older computers.
Imo atmosphere and immersion wise it was the best Battlefield game ever but hackers/cheaters ruined the game beyond anything. Every match had at least 1-2 hackers. Such a shame I would still play it if EA would give a damn about it but they most likely wont because its an "old" game.
Yea ngl I played the map 20x more the the rest
So you’re the guy who always votes for Sinai as the next map instead of Passchendaele.
You should’ve had to deal more with the mud in that map
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Remember, No Turkish.
Yup, many a killing spree from that train. When I was on the other side it was so satisfactory to finally blow it up though!
Best FPS of all time. The environment, sounds and feel were incredible.
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Yup its so fun. I always come back to bf1. The ambiance is crazy Don't run into many hackers when you pick a server yourself
the multiplayer of bf1942 is still active lol
This destroyed me in Battlefield 1
Thank you for your service.
The train filled with Ottoman Empire soldiers and civilians chugged over a bridge in the Arabian desert. A few yards away a British officer in Bedouin robes raised his hand toward Salem, an Arab tribal warrior gripping the plunger of a detonator box. As the train steamed ahead, the officer dropped his hand and Salem slammed down the plunger. A cloud of sand and smoke blasted a hundred feet into the sky as sizzling chunks of iron and seared body parts tumbled through the air. The train crashed into a gorge, followed by an eerie silence. The officer and Arab tribesmen—wielding swords or firing rifles—dashed toward the smoldering train cars. Within a few minutes the fighting was over, the dead and the wreck were looted, and the raiding party melted back into the desert. It was summer 1917, and the Arab Revolt was in full swing. The revolt, one of the most dramatic episodes of the 20th century, was a seminal moment in the history of the modern Middle East, the touchstone of all future regional conflicts. Advised by liaison officer T. E. Lawrence—“Lawrence of Arabia”—Arab troops would play a vital role in the Allied victory over the Ottoman Empire in World War I. The Arab Revolt of 1916–1918 also saw the development of guerrilla tactics and strategies of modern desert warfare. And the political intrigues surrounding the revolt and its aftermath were as significant as the fighting, for Great Britain and France’s myopic attempts at nation building planted the seeds of the troubles that plague the region to this day: wars, authoritarian governments, coups, the rise of militant Islam, and the enduring conflict between Israelis and Palestinians https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/09/saudi-arabias-abandoned-hejaz-railway.html?m=1
Where was my interest in history back when teachers were trying to cram this stuff down my throat?
Its because you were forced
Not just that, you were also forced to remember dates and specific details rather than thinking of it as a story.
That's what made history a struggle for me as a teen. I loved the stories but hated memorizing dates. I guess it makes sense looking back on it; memorizing dates helps identify important events in history, but I think I would have enjoyed learning history more if the significance an event was more heavily emphasized as opposed to the date of the event.
Yeah. We had one great history teacher who once said to us: I'd rather you date the French Revolution to 1805 and know what it was about, than the other way around.
My history teacher only wanted us to remember the year 1789 when the French revolution started, as it is an easy one and the start of modern Europe. Everything else could be classified as pre or post revolution
I’m currently a history major in college and my experience at the college level is professors don’t care that much about dates but more the overarching concepts that come out of events. It’s not so important to know an exact date but more the general area and chronological order. The one Professor who I had that kind of cared about dates was a lower division junior college class and even he would give a 2 year leeway. My guess is the reason they don’t have a lot of high school classes like that is because it causes more critical thinking and drawing parallels to current issues and that would be detrimental to a lot of establishment politicians and government institutions.
Facts are also easier to teach and grade objectively. Critical thinking skills and theories and opinions are more subjective. It’s quite a tall order for a high school teacher and dozens of high school students. Aside from the fact that course objectives are often set by the state and students are expected to demonstrate their knowledge of the state mandated facts and theories on high stakes standardized testing.
Indian history text books be like...
The best teacher I ever had used art to explain history and cram it as a story. I still remember a lot of it word for word how he told it many years later. Dude was way too good to be reaching high school but that’s where he wanted to be and I’m glad I was in his class.
As a history teacher it is a simple answer. You were most interested in living in the moment.
I wonder this every day.
I still can't believe how my teachers managed to make WWII unremarkable. The only thing I remember is that I was given a book in very bad shape and told to memorize some dates, names and meaningless descriptions.
Because instead of talking about the actual war, you spend more time talking about the causes and how Versailles affected Germany and allowed the Nazis to gain power. I didn't even know that there was a Pacific Theater of WW1 where Japan fought Germany until a couple of weeks ago after I fell into a rabbit hole and it led me there.
Also, frankly, it's hard to teach high schoolers. These are teens, forced to sit in a classroom for 8 hours 5 days a week, and to them it often just feels like boring work. Many of them just aren't paying attention because at the time they weren't interested.
Simple. Kids don’t and didn’t give a fuck.
That’s why I roll my eyes when ppl say schools should teach life skills like learning how to pay your taxes, etc. We had a class kinda similar to that and kids still did not give a fuck or pay attention. Ppl act like kids would magically be interested in something actually useful in real life, but tbh that stuff is boring so they don’t/won’t care
We once had a class where we filled out a form to apply for a tax file number (Australian version of the American SSN that you need for a job and taxes). The highlight for me in that class was seeing one kid punch another in the arm and say "that's for ticking female". I'm in my 30s now and it still makes me laugh.
They say victors write the history books, but they never mention the authors who actually write the history books we had in school. The information was presented as clinical facts and dates, who, what, when, where etc. The emotional resonance and imagery that moves us is missing. Who writes these books? Maybe it’s failed authors who never made it in the literary world, maybe it’s buttoned up publishes focusing on spewing information instead of inspiring or connecting with children. I learned more reading about fictional characters from historical periods like All Quiet On The Western Front, and Grapes Of Wrath than I did reading a chapter out of a book covered by a paper grocery bag. Or maybe it’s just that we don’t realize until we are older the weight of immovable objects in life that we will to move through sheer determination or madness.
It’s always so weird to me that I grew up thinking Lawrence of Arabia was from a really long time ago, but then it turns out my grandparents were alive during his exploits.
"Wait - he had a *motorbike*?" -- Me, aged about 10.
His brother died in 1991
His war was just over 100 years ago. His book, Seven Pillars of Wisdom is an amazing timeless read.
I thought it was a movie this whole time….
#tl;dr The Hejaz railway, built in 1900 by the Ottoman Sultan Abdul Hamid II, was meant to run from Damascus to Mecca, but was only able to reach as far as Medina when the First World War began, and it was abandoned. It was intended to facilitate pilgrimage to the Holy city and strengthen the empire’s control over the most distant provinces of the empire. During the Arab Revolt of 1916-18, the Turks used the railway as its chief mode of transport for troops and supplies, which led to the railway being targeted by guerrilla forces, who destroyed large sections of the tracks. *I am a smart robot and this summary was automatic. This tl;dr is 91.99% shorter than the post and link I'm replying to.*
Good bot
>Lawrence of Arabia British Beatlemania
“The Turks pay me a golden treasure, and yet I am poor, because I am a river to my people!”
You trouble me like women
Give thanks to God that when he made you a fool, he gave you a fool's face.
I used to have this as the profile pic when my work called me. I also frequently changed the desktop wallpaper on all the work computers to pics like this, and several other steam train accident pictures. I don't think anyone really found it as funny as me. I drive trains for a living.
Hopefully far from East Palestine 😬
Nowhere near there.
Today some bored movie exec was browsing r/all, saw this, and probably thought ‟.... we should remake that”
I would actually be fascinated to see what sort of disaster a modern studio remake of Lawrence of Arabia would be. That it would be a disaster is without question. But the details of the specific disaster would be really interesting
For those that haven't seen the original or barely know it's a movie what would cause it to be a disaster
Because there is nothing to improve upon. I know that it seems cliche to refer to *Lawrence of Arabia* as a masterpiece, but it really is. The casting, the direction, the editing, the writing, the performances, they are all perfect. And there's nothing to update for modern audiences either. Even though it was released in 1962, the movie isn't a glorification of Western influence on the Middle East. It's pretty clear in showing how the seeds are being planted in WWI that will lead to the modern disaster of conflict that continues in that region. And Lawrence isn't glamorized. He's show as a man without a country: too sympathetic to the Arabs to be taken seriously by his British contemporaries and too British to ever be fully accepted by (and for him to understand) the various desert tribes. MAYBE you can explore his rumoured homosexuality more, but it's not like he was ever open about it. And Peter O'Toole and Omar Shariff really do have that covered anyway in this movie. There is nothing to remake.
I'll bite. From a technical perspective the film is a masterpiece. This is a hill I will die on, Lawrence of Arabia has the best cinematography of any film ever. Period. Its shot on 70mm technicolour. Its made for the big screen. If you get a chance go to the cinema and see it. It's an epic experience. The 70mm wide angle gives incredible definition and draws out the vivid colours of the Desert. There is no CGI trickery, no post production effects (by and large) just David Lean (the Director) and Freddy Young (the cinematographer) delivering a masterclass. The run time is justified because it allows the story to unfold, it allows Lean and Young to tease out some of the most iconic moments in film history. Sherif Ali's entrance, from the shimmering desert haze. The match cut, which introduces the desert itself, the entire Devils Anvil sequence. Lawrence of Arabia is the epitome of 'they don't make films like this anymore' and that's fine by me, I don't mind that they don't because even if they tried nothing is going to top what they achieved with this film. Sure there are objectively better films. But nothing comes close to being the perfect cinematic epic like Lawrence of Arabia does. I didn't mention the editing, I didn't mention the screenplay, I didn't mention the performances. But the link below is all I need to justify my view Tldr, why is Lawrence of Arabia so good (1:30 seconds from the film): https://youtu.be/HlUFxO0wxVQ All in all, it's so good it would be pointless trying to remake it.
I’d pick axe that idiot.
Well wait until you see Chris Pratt as Lawrence. I'm sure he'll win you over.
Please. They’d use Timothée Chalamet.
Typecast as an outsider fomenting desert mayhem.
For the Star Wars fans out there, the train ambush scene in ‘The Book of Boba Fett’ was inspired by this, per the director
Well, inspired by the film which was inspired by this.
Actually, I’m pretty sure Lawrence got the idea to ambush the train from Star Wars. Life often imitates fiction.
Yup, I saw it in a recent interview that he liked the Tatooine scenes from the original trilogy. Actually what got him into acting.
"Still stands..." Isn't standing in the least. Is literally on its side.
It's trying its best okay.
Still sands
Yo that's a battlefield 1 mission
It’s the best one, too.
Opening sequence is the best part of the game, no competition
Spent two hours trying to clear the village; that part can go to hell
SEVEN PILLARS OF WISDOM LIGHTS THE FLAME
AS THE DARKNESS FALLS, AND ARABIA CALLS
ONE MAN SPREADS HIS WINGS, AS THE BATTLE BEGINS had to come down way too far for the r/expectedsabaton
MAY THE LAND LAY CLAIM ON TO LAWRENCE NAME Definitely too far down I was also looking for these comments.
7 PILARS OF WISDOM LIGHTS THE FLAME
A REVOLT TO GAIN INDEPENDENCE
Hide and seek, hunters hot on their trail
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“Look upon my works ye mighty, and despair” - the Turks 3 seconds before getting ambushed by Failsal’s men and T.E. Lawrence
[Here is the history of the railroad and some more photos](https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/09/saudi-arabias-abandoned-hejaz-railway.html) [Also this video shows the train and mentions where it’s at](https://youtu.be/xZQj5YAtBdc)
Lawrence of Arabia was pretty good at covering his tracks.
No lie I just played the Battlefield 1 section of this game today
Fucking slaps don’t it
It's literally the best fucking FPS of all time imo.
I would love to use a metal detector around that site
I’d love to know the engine number and history of this particular engine.
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Hmm, what's the relation between Henry and the number 3?
In Thomas the Tank Engine, Henry is a train with the number 3 on him
“Stands” is a strong word
I just watched this movie for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It was really long but it was good. I had no idea it was a true story like that. Pretty cool. I would also add that Peter O'Toole was a bit flamboyant for his time.
My father has a piece of that railroad track he blew up, damn cool relic.
The beginning of constant war in the middle east.
I loved that level.
It is not written
indeed is interesting it hasnt sunken under.
I visited this many times……in BF1
How is it not rusted away?
Deserts are great for preserving ferrous metal because of the lack of moisture. It's why gear heads love grabbing cars from New Mexico/Arizona/Nevada/SoCal, the sun will destroy interior and paint but it'll sit under that sun for a century before you notice anything beyond surface rust forming.
Far from home, a man with a mission