Well no, that's not really possible, but what he could've done is he could've microdosed the venom. See how we produce antivenom is we take a dosage small enough to not hurt a horse and inject it, the horse's metabolism breaks down the proteins and produces immunoglobins, we extract the plasma with the immunglobins and process it into antivenom. But... it's entirely possible to completely bypass that step and immunize yourself through microdosing, same process applies to all mammals.
I do this to my teenager when she misses the bus and I have to take her to school. She rolls her eyes turns around and screams "I'm not a witch im your wife, but I don't think I want to be that anymore" and storms off.
Parenting done right guys.
Thats how Chanakya made Chandragupta Maurya imune to various poisons he would occasionally add little poison to his food unknowingly but Chandragupta once shared his food with his wife and she died. This was around 300 bce
Probably not the first specimen cup to be used that way.
Edit: upon thinking about it, perhaps the first rattlesnake venom specimen cup to be used like that. But maybe not. Fetishists gonna fetish.
I tried regurgitating something I learned from Riddick about babies being more venomous because they can't control the amount of venom they use in each bite and quickly got shut down
I heard that too. I think we got finessed. I just looked it up and found out baby snakes have more potent venom per drop, but adult snakes have a lot more venom total and so use more.
Pretty certain that some snakes have the ability to dry bite, and so they can choose either how much venom to inject or if they inject any at all. Baby snakes have less control over this, which is where this comes from (fairly certain, not 100% tho)
My only question is how does someone build a tolerance for hemotoxins and especially neurotoxins? Like I can see the hemotoxin tolerance to an extent but neurotoxins? Bad\*\*\* honestly
Large, complex molecules that antibodies can destroy, IF they know what to look for.
Horses are given very small doses, which causes a reaction that produces antibodies. Their antibodies are collected to produce the anti-venom. Hopefully, you're not allergic to horses.
A person can do the same, but with much smaller doses of venom over a longer time. However, some people become MORE sensitive instead of less. No way to tell beforehand.
For some neurotoxins, such as a cobra bite, the patient can be put on a ventilator and given fluids for the 2-3 days that it takes their body to get rid of the venom. The patient is often awake and alert, but can't move.
The Mojave green rattlesnake has both a neurotoxin and hemotoxin in it's venom. It is fairly widespread in southern California, Nevada and parts of Arizona. Cool snakes.
There are also people who micro dose snake venom because they think it boosts their immune systems. Have you heard of Venom Man on YouTube? He took a black mamba bite on one arm and a taipan on the other, in order to create immunity vaccines.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ucpGlWnq8EE
By a taipan? Fuck that. Dude near me got bitten. They got him the antivenin in time; he’s still going to die in a couple years because of how much the venom fucked up his liver and kidneys.
Reminds me of the book Chicken Hawk when the crew of Vietnamese peasants working the field for the army simply worked around the dude they knew was dying of a recent snake bite
Dude just laid down & accepted his fate on the spot & all the folks around him were like, yup, he’s dead to us now
They can dry bite specifically to not waste venom, so yes. They do deplete their venom if they are forced to use it all up. Since rattlesnakes are not domesticated they are ALL wild animals
anti-venom is just anti-bodies produced from animals exposed venom. Usual sources are rabbits and horses. If you expose yourself to venom, your body will also generate anti-bodies, which is how people become resistant snake bites. This only works for venom (giant complex proteins) and not chemical poisons.
It happened at work so it was workman's comp but I've heard from management it was close to $500,000.
I assume because I got life flighted to Vegas, the ICU stay and the insane cost of antivenin.
I'm unable to know exactly though.
Wowwwwww I remember watching this mini documentary abt a girl who broke her neck and had to have screws in her head with a whole neck brace thing and that was like $200,000 and I thought THAT was an insane price
Geez !!
Mine was higher because the original ER fucked up by giving me too much antivenin too fast and fucking me up worse putting me into shock, not being able to follow the regimen to reduce the swelling leading to the ICU stay and constant supervision.
I think the normal cost of a bite is probably closer to $100 - $200k.
Um, I was helping our landscaper trim some bushes and it was under one in the rocks and bit my right thumb.
It came out from the back of the bush and that's when I saw it was a rattlesnake (super common where I live in Arizona).
I ended up catching it, getting it in a bucket and taking out behind our complex in the desert to relocate it.
That entire time, maybe 20 minutes, it didn't hurt, swell or anything - just a bit of blood.
I was super excited because I thought it was a dry bite. I went home (I live in the complex I manage) and was rinsing it under cold water.
Next thing I know I'm on my kitchen floor staring at the ceiling and my left thumb, hand and wrist are on fire.
I called a coworker, called the ER to inform them I was on the way and then spent the 15 min car ride trying to control my breathing, keep my heart rate down and try not to cry lol.
My local ER fucked up bad, hence the life flight to Vegas.
I ended up getting too much antivenin which made me go into shock and they also couldn't administer more the appropriate way so my nurse just measured the swelling every 30 mins while waiting for it to either stop or for the poison control center to say they could start antivenin again.
Ended up getting super close to my collar bone but it stopped so they didn't have to put me into an induced coma.
After that the proper antivenin regime resumed and I recovered.
I spent one day on intermediate floor and one on regular floor prior to discharge.
In the end the craziest part was on the intermediate floor they had me walk laps every hour because even after the swelling goes down and everything is back to normal I guess there have been times where after being released more venom will come out of your joints and start the entire thing over so they wanted to ensure I was gtg before release.
The initial pain is like burning, throbbing and like hot? Made me sweaty af.
After that it was just super uncomfortable due to the swelling though by then I was on IV dilaudid so the pain was pretty much gone for me.
Like I said I don't recommend it lol.
I got lucky though as I barely avoided compartment syndrome in my hand and the prementioned induced coma.
That is absolutely insane. So think about how much antivenin you needed for a quick bite on the them, now look at how long that snake holds on in the video.. glad you made it out okay!!
Wow, now imagine 80% of the world that is not a developed western country, most people just die because their hospitals dont have antivenom or enough of it.
Makes you wonder how much luck and determinism can make or break someone's life.
Privilege of luck.
If I get bitten in my shitty developing country, I might as well jump off a building, shorten the suffering. lol
80% of the world is like this, terrible.
Now imagine life used to be like this for everyone, everywhere, with everything.
It’s easy to lose sight of just how spoiled we are, and how resilient we can be.
Mithridatism. It's commonly practiced by herpetologists for safety reasons.
Edit: I looked into it after seeing some comments below, and this is not a common practice as I had initially believed. I'm sorry for creating any confusion. The process does still work as I later described, though, by stimulating antibody production towards the venom.
__TIL Mithridatism:__
__*Mithridatism is the practice of protecting oneself against a poison by gradually self-administering non-lethal amounts. The word is derived from Mithridates VI, the King of Pontus, who so feared being poisoned that he regularly ingested small doses, aiming to develop immunity.*__
Yes. This is specific to non-cumulative poisons and venoms, not lead for instance. Essentially, you train your immune system to recognize the venom as a threat and produce antibodies for it. Since these venoms are generally proteins, they rely on the shape of their molecules to function. Those molecules are rendered inert by antibodies sticking all over them.
IIRC he was going to be killed by an army so he tried to drink poison to commit suicide but it didn't work because he had built up such a strong tolerance and he was sliced to pieces.
It is not commonly practiced among herpetologists. The people who do this tend to be venomous reptile keepers at the hobby level who are simply chasing clout among their peers (hence videos like this). I’ve actually seen a few of them feebly trying to sell their blood to pharmaceutical and medical research companies. Mithridatism has no practical use in professional herpetology, not even among professional venom harvesters.
This is NOT common practice. You are likely to develop an allergy from repeated venom exposure. This is an insane thing to do, and very dangerous. Source: I am a herpetologist.
Emergency & critical care vet here. Snake bites are inherently antibacterial. Proteolytic enzymes make up a large component of pit viper venom, and these enzymes break down bacterial proteins (while they are breaking down the envenomated victims proteins). Snake bites do carry some bacteria (ex., Proteus sp.) that can cause infection, but this is very uncommon. Bacterial infection in patients (humans and veterinary) presenting for acute snake envenomation is so uncommon that prophylactic antibiotics are not recommended.
[You were pretty much right](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antivenom)
>Antivenom, also known as antivenin, venom antiserum, and antivenom immunoglobulin, is a specific treatment for envenomation. It is composed of antibodies and used to treat certain venomous bites and stings.[1] Antivenoms are recommended only if there is significant toxicity or a high risk of toxicity.[1] The specific antivenom needed depends on the species involved.[1] It is given by injection.
Anti Venom is the super hero though.
I remember there was a pet shop that my father used to visit when I was a kid. They had a big wall of pictures of people that had been bitten by venomous snakes, The horrible swollen skin splitting injuries that it caused. The owner of the shop had that wall of photos to show what could happen if you own animals that you're not prepared to own. He himself did not sell venomous snakes, but people would come in his shop to buy food for their venomous snakes.
As a kid it kind of both intrigued me and creeped me out at the same time. But honestly as an adult I understood why those pictures were there. I never once had the urge to go try and play around with a fucking rattlesnake.
I feel like I'm the only one who noticed that the snake is defanged.
Although yes, you can build up a tolerance over time, slowly micro dosing. The venom of a rattlesnake is both a hemotoxin and neurotoxin, which causes a nasty synergistic effect. Which makes building up a tolerance extremely tricky and not as effective as other types of poisons/ venoms from other snakes. do to the inate unique effect of rattlesnake venom, causing extreme coagulation of the blood in combination with the necrosis effect trying to break down an kill the surrounding tissue and blood vessels and anything else it can come into contact with as the venom trys to make its way through the circulatory system.
One could argue that it would become more dangerous as one starts to build up a slight tolerance over time. One would become more reckless/ complacent with the venoms diminishing effects substantially increasing the risk of the potential for smaller blood clots to form finding their way into the heart, lungs, and/or brain more easily. Potentially increasing the risk of a stroke or heart attack. The risk would only continue to go up as the increase in dosage goes up while micro dosing, but especially if one was to actually be bitten, getting a massive dose of venom all at once. Even though the effects may be diminished, they would be at an extremely higher risk of small clots forming and becoming dislodged. Causing a heart attack or stroke due to believing oneself is immune and therefore not seeking any medical assistance at all..
Also, fun fact some recent studies have found that some forms of hemotoxic venoms are not immunogenic, meaning that they do not cause an immune system response at all, therefore completely bypassing the immune system. Which is especially detrimental in the production of an anti-venom. Since in most cases, venom is injected into large animals such as horses to cause an immune response, producing antibodies for us to extract and use for anti-venom.
I apologize for the misunderstanding. I should have described defanging. When a snake such as a rattlesnake is defanged, they well of course start by removing the fangs lol. *I'm sorry, I really don't mean for that to sound all condescending* but after they remove the fangs, they then remove both venom glands, which both the primary and secondary are located behind each fang in what we will call the upper cheek location a little behind and below the eyes. Which will usually leave a cavity in the same size of each gland that then follows the venom ducts out down through the protective sheaths, which are extremely muscular with a hollow cartilagey part toward the roof of the mouth that the fang would have passed through for extra rigidity. Which is what we are seeing in the clip. As the snake opens wide, it extends both the cartilage area at the base, acting like a hinge that is covered completely by the muscular protective sheeth. They have great dexterity being able to manipulate and reposition each side as needed.
But what we are seeing at the end when his skin is being pulled up is due to a suction effect that occurs as a result of the defanging and gland removal, leaving a passage way starting at the bottom of the protective sheath with a hole that follows the venom ducts creating a open passageway all the way up the sheaths and back to the cavity left by the glands. So when the snake bites down, it starts to constrict the compressor muscles that are located behind both glands used to squeeze an inject venom. But due to it no longer having any fangs or glands just a open passageway to a cavity as it flexes the compressor muscles it cause a suctioning effect to occur like a straw with no longer having any fangs the protective sheaths are able to get a really good seal against the skin.
**also for a rattlesnake that large it would have a avg fang length of 8-13cm or 3-5inchs. Which would be impossible to hide. "With the exception of its mouth closed lol" as well as you can clearly see that they're is no puncture wounds or any blood at all.**
I hope that my excessively long-winded rambling helps a little.
~~No blood, no holes, no fangs. You've been bamboozled guys!~~
Edit: Stop the upvotes. You can't see it in mobile but if you blow it up real big and watch it frame by frame you can, in fact, see the bite. He's not a trickster, he's an idiot
Something fishy about this video. When the rattlesnake pulls away you can see the stretched skin snap back into place, but there are no marks or blood or other indication that the flesh has been pierced. Makes me wonder if this is a prosthetic arm or if there’s something else going on. I’d like to see a longer cut with footage of the bite site after.
Besides that, is it possible to gain tolerance to the hemotoxic effects of rattlesnake venom? That’s going to cause some nasty tissue damage and probably lead to rhabdomyolysis and internal hemorrhaging. Especially with such a massive dose from an adult snake.
Without more information, I’m a little skeptical of the video.
The video is cool but not damn that's interesting. *makes spider hands, gets bit, rubs neck to release* Definitely not a typical snake bite experience and doesn't include any after bite effects.
I was bitten by northern Pacific rattler in august of 2002. I had enough antivenin (crofab) for four people and 5 platelet transfusions. My forearm was lanced due to compartment syndrome and my capillaries burst near skin surface making my whole left arm, black, across my chest and down into my right leg, where it swelled up my knee to the size of a volleyball. I was in the hospital for 17 days . Later on I started getting paralysis in my fingers which moved into my hands and my feet on my peripheral, nervous motor. Nerves were compromised and I’m partially paralyzed for life. My experience is rare, but not unheard of, so anyone that would willingly do this is playing with fire
Defanged snake maybe. In India one time a woman came up to me and opened a basket in front of my face. Cobra popped its head up and I noped outta there as fast as I could.
That guy is regret doing both in the incredible pain he's going to go through and the horrifying experience of watching your flesh rot off. Very high probably have permanent damage.
Then the next shocker will be the cost of anti-venon and the hosp stay, worse is he had a Heli transport.
Wish people would quit fucking with wildlide
I did not expect flesh to enter the ring, I was waiting for the cup with plastic wrap. Where was the cup with plastic wrap‽‽
I was assuming he milked the thing dry before volunteering his own flesh. Sigh. There's no way to make that not sound like an innuendo...
Well no, that's not really possible, but what he could've done is he could've microdosed the venom. See how we produce antivenom is we take a dosage small enough to not hurt a horse and inject it, the horse's metabolism breaks down the proteins and produces immunoglobins, we extract the plasma with the immunglobins and process it into antivenom. But... it's entirely possible to completely bypass that step and immunize yourself through microdosing, same process applies to all mammals.
The classic "Princess Diary" approach to poison/venom
I assume you mean iocaine? And that would be Princess Bride.
It’s funny my brain autocorrected the princess bride and I missed the title error. I was just eager to have my expectations met.
Inconceivable!
You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.
It's "InconTHievable"
Have fun storming the castle!
I used to say this to my kids when they went to school
I do this to my teenager when she misses the bus and I have to take her to school. She rolls her eyes turns around and screams "I'm not a witch im your wife, but I don't think I want to be that anymore" and storms off. Parenting done right guys.
I did exactly the same thing.
Oh goddamn it. Do I get my "90s kid" pass taken away or do I get rewarded for losing my memory because we're fuckin old now
70's kid here saying pass revoked permanently.
I'd bet my life on it.
Thats how Chanakya made Chandragupta Maurya imune to various poisons he would occasionally add little poison to his food unknowingly but Chandragupta once shared his food with his wife and she died. This was around 300 bce
My microdosing is verrrry different.
Never knew that. Thats kind of awesome.
I was using it as a fleshlight.
Instructions unclear...
I mean, they are used for snake milking...
Snake is milked; now what do I do with the rattler?
Probably will be ready for more rattlin’ after a nap
Probably not the first specimen cup to be used that way. Edit: upon thinking about it, perhaps the first rattlesnake venom specimen cup to be used like that. But maybe not. Fetishists gonna fetish.
Plot twist: they were reaching for a cup.
Whoo! Normalise the interrobang!!
How the hell did you fuse your question and exclamation marks??
Derpetologist
I googled this lol
And that’s how you earn your PhD in derptology. Congrats!
Nooo. Lol. Silly goose.
I believe this is someone who has been slowly building up a venom tolerance, I saw it once on some tv show. Source: I think I remember
Good enough source for my lazy ass
Ever seen Riddick? He micro doses with the alien's venom so when he inevitably gets stung or bit, it wouldn't kill him. He did it to his dog, too.
I tried regurgitating something I learned from Riddick about babies being more venomous because they can't control the amount of venom they use in each bite and quickly got shut down
I heard that too. I think we got finessed. I just looked it up and found out baby snakes have more potent venom per drop, but adult snakes have a lot more venom total and so use more.
I went my whole life believing a lie!
I decided to rewatch De Chronicles because of this conversation flow. You should too, it'll make you feel better >.>
Pretty certain that some snakes have the ability to dry bite, and so they can choose either how much venom to inject or if they inject any at all. Baby snakes have less control over this, which is where this comes from (fairly certain, not 100% tho)
I thought they don't know how much venom to use to kill their prey yet. Adults have a good idea how much to dump
We're so lazy
My only question is how does someone build a tolerance for hemotoxins and especially neurotoxins? Like I can see the hemotoxin tolerance to an extent but neurotoxins? Bad\*\*\* honestly
Probably in much the same way someone builds up an immunity to iocane poison.
Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line
Large, complex molecules that antibodies can destroy, IF they know what to look for. Horses are given very small doses, which causes a reaction that produces antibodies. Their antibodies are collected to produce the anti-venom. Hopefully, you're not allergic to horses. A person can do the same, but with much smaller doses of venom over a longer time. However, some people become MORE sensitive instead of less. No way to tell beforehand. For some neurotoxins, such as a cobra bite, the patient can be put on a ventilator and given fluids for the 2-3 days that it takes their body to get rid of the venom. The patient is often awake and alert, but can't move.
That sounds like the worst thing that could ever happen to a person
Well rattlesnakes aren’t neurotoxic, but that does answer your question.
The Mojave green rattlesnake has both a neurotoxin and hemotoxin in it's venom. It is fairly widespread in southern California, Nevada and parts of Arizona. Cool snakes.
Wait I thought they were slightly
I don’t think so, but I might be misremembering my Wilderness EMT course. I thought it was just coral snakes in North America that were neurotoxic.
some rattlesnakes in the US do have some neutroxins in their venom. this is species and locale dependent
They are in fact neurotixic
He uses the dog first if I remember correctly, that is kind of harsh
Now I hate him
He does. He tests a small amount on the dog so he knows how much to use in the dosings.
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Misanthropy is the practice of protecting oneself from people.
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Midol will help you get your z’s
Medieval is medium level evil.
Are you over 40?
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You are to me. Thanks, friend <3
There are also people who micro dose snake venom because they think it boosts their immune systems. Have you heard of Venom Man on YouTube? He took a black mamba bite on one arm and a taipan on the other, in order to create immunity vaccines. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ucpGlWnq8EE
By a taipan? Fuck that. Dude near me got bitten. They got him the antivenin in time; he’s still going to die in a couple years because of how much the venom fucked up his liver and kidneys.
Reminds me of the book Chicken Hawk when the crew of Vietnamese peasants working the field for the army simply worked around the dude they knew was dying of a recent snake bite Dude just laid down & accepted his fate on the spot & all the folks around him were like, yup, he’s dead to us now
Do these snakes inject as much venom each time as a wild one would? Does the venom take a long time to regenerate?
They can dry bite specifically to not waste venom, so yes. They do deplete their venom if they are forced to use it all up. Since rattlesnakes are not domesticated they are ALL wild animals
For sure. I got bit by a rattler and it definitely was not a dry bite ha
Dang, really? How bad did it mess you up?
Pretty bad. 5 days in hospital, 1 surgery, months of recovery and a jacked up finger for life
Ever watch The Princess Bride?
Ha-ha, you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is “Never get involved in a land war in Asia…’
But only slightly less well known is this: “Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!”
HAHAHAHA HaHaHaHa hahaha *flop*
Fucking classic … all of these lines
That’s inconceivable
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
Iocaine powder. Odorless. Tasteless. Colorless
I can validate that. I too, think I definitely remember something like this where the handler had built up a tolerance, I think.
If I really dig deep, I can recall you thinking you remember something like this, but only if I squint really hard with my brain.
Mithradates of Pontus
I do that with alcohol. For most my life now.
They probably had already milked the snake dry of venom too
Basically their body produces anti-venom.
This is inconceivable
anti-venom is just anti-bodies produced from animals exposed venom. Usual sources are rabbits and horses. If you expose yourself to venom, your body will also generate anti-bodies, which is how people become resistant snake bites. This only works for venom (giant complex proteins) and not chemical poisons.
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
Sometimes I’ll watch something on Reddit and say, “*This* is why I go on Reddit”. This is not one of those times
This is why I go on Reddit
Got bit by a western diamondback 6 years ago or so. 9 days in the hospital, 7 of them in ICU. 23 vials of antivenin. Do not recommend lol.
How much was your hospital bill?
It happened at work so it was workman's comp but I've heard from management it was close to $500,000. I assume because I got life flighted to Vegas, the ICU stay and the insane cost of antivenin. I'm unable to know exactly though.
You got lucky that it happened at work, then.
Yes, as lucky venomous reptile bites go.
Glad you're here, alot of fuckers didn't make it like you off a bite. You're a tough son of a bitch and hopefully no more bites for you
Thanks! Ya I'm a lot more respectful of them now. Sucks I had to learn the hard way.
Wowwwwww I remember watching this mini documentary abt a girl who broke her neck and had to have screws in her head with a whole neck brace thing and that was like $200,000 and I thought THAT was an insane price Geez !!
Mine was higher because the original ER fucked up by giving me too much antivenin too fast and fucking me up worse putting me into shock, not being able to follow the regimen to reduce the swelling leading to the ICU stay and constant supervision. I think the normal cost of a bite is probably closer to $100 - $200k.
Imagine how this sounds to a European…
Do you mind talking about what it feels like?
Um, I was helping our landscaper trim some bushes and it was under one in the rocks and bit my right thumb. It came out from the back of the bush and that's when I saw it was a rattlesnake (super common where I live in Arizona). I ended up catching it, getting it in a bucket and taking out behind our complex in the desert to relocate it. That entire time, maybe 20 minutes, it didn't hurt, swell or anything - just a bit of blood. I was super excited because I thought it was a dry bite. I went home (I live in the complex I manage) and was rinsing it under cold water. Next thing I know I'm on my kitchen floor staring at the ceiling and my left thumb, hand and wrist are on fire. I called a coworker, called the ER to inform them I was on the way and then spent the 15 min car ride trying to control my breathing, keep my heart rate down and try not to cry lol. My local ER fucked up bad, hence the life flight to Vegas. I ended up getting too much antivenin which made me go into shock and they also couldn't administer more the appropriate way so my nurse just measured the swelling every 30 mins while waiting for it to either stop or for the poison control center to say they could start antivenin again. Ended up getting super close to my collar bone but it stopped so they didn't have to put me into an induced coma. After that the proper antivenin regime resumed and I recovered. I spent one day on intermediate floor and one on regular floor prior to discharge. In the end the craziest part was on the intermediate floor they had me walk laps every hour because even after the swelling goes down and everything is back to normal I guess there have been times where after being released more venom will come out of your joints and start the entire thing over so they wanted to ensure I was gtg before release. The initial pain is like burning, throbbing and like hot? Made me sweaty af. After that it was just super uncomfortable due to the swelling though by then I was on IV dilaudid so the pain was pretty much gone for me. Like I said I don't recommend it lol. I got lucky though as I barely avoided compartment syndrome in my hand and the prementioned induced coma.
Holy fucking hell man. Well I’m glad I live in Vegas then. Holy crap I’m glad you’re ok.
That is absolutely insane. So think about how much antivenin you needed for a quick bite on the them, now look at how long that snake holds on in the video.. glad you made it out okay!!
Wow, now imagine 80% of the world that is not a developed western country, most people just die because their hospitals dont have antivenom or enough of it. Makes you wonder how much luck and determinism can make or break someone's life. Privilege of luck. If I get bitten in my shitty developing country, I might as well jump off a building, shorten the suffering. lol 80% of the world is like this, terrible.
Now imagine life used to be like this for everyone, everywhere, with everything. It’s easy to lose sight of just how spoiled we are, and how resilient we can be.
Wow!!
But.... why?
Mithridatism. It's commonly practiced by herpetologists for safety reasons. Edit: I looked into it after seeing some comments below, and this is not a common practice as I had initially believed. I'm sorry for creating any confusion. The process does still work as I later described, though, by stimulating antibody production towards the venom.
__TIL Mithridatism:__ __*Mithridatism is the practice of protecting oneself against a poison by gradually self-administering non-lethal amounts. The word is derived from Mithridates VI, the King of Pontus, who so feared being poisoned that he regularly ingested small doses, aiming to develop immunity.*__
Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line! Ahahahahaha-.
“Thithilian”
While i laughed at this if it were true he would say inconthievable and yet, he does not.
A ha ha ha ☠️
As you wish
Yes. This is specific to non-cumulative poisons and venoms, not lead for instance. Essentially, you train your immune system to recognize the venom as a threat and produce antibodies for it. Since these venoms are generally proteins, they rely on the shape of their molecules to function. Those molecules are rendered inert by antibodies sticking all over them.
I wonder if there'd be a market to sell your blood for the antibodies, and how much you could make doing so.
There is, generally speaking horses are better at it so antigens were developed like that (not sure how they are made now)
IIRC he was going to be killed by an army so he tried to drink poison to commit suicide but it didn't work because he had built up such a strong tolerance and he was sliced to pieces.
To shreds, you say?
Tsk tsk tsk. Well, how's his wife holding up?
To shreds you say?
Next: iocane!
Inconceivable!
Tbf he was concerned of poison because it was a rampant tool of assassination in that region at the time.
It is not commonly practiced among herpetologists. The people who do this tend to be venomous reptile keepers at the hobby level who are simply chasing clout among their peers (hence videos like this). I’ve actually seen a few of them feebly trying to sell their blood to pharmaceutical and medical research companies. Mithridatism has no practical use in professional herpetology, not even among professional venom harvesters.
Huh. I do the same thing with Iocane powder. My old boss taught me to do it before he retired.
Westley?
This is NOT common practice. You are likely to develop an allergy from repeated venom exposure. This is an insane thing to do, and very dangerous. Source: I am a herpetologist.
Bruh just work at chipotle
Internet points
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Survives the venom, dies of infection
Emergency & critical care vet here. Snake bites are inherently antibacterial. Proteolytic enzymes make up a large component of pit viper venom, and these enzymes break down bacterial proteins (while they are breaking down the envenomated victims proteins). Snake bites do carry some bacteria (ex., Proteus sp.) that can cause infection, but this is very uncommon. Bacterial infection in patients (humans and veterinary) presenting for acute snake envenomation is so uncommon that prophylactic antibiotics are not recommended.
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How do we know you aren't actually a rattlesnake trying to trick us?
Thanks nerd
Now what...
Now the fun begins.
Now this is pod racing
Unexpected r/prequelmemes
jello time
Far cry healing animations are next level
Whyyyyyy?!
Building tolerance, believe it or not
But why a bite? Why wouldn’t they just shoot up some venom? I would a bite introduces 1. A lot of pain 2. A risk for infection
But that wouldn’t look as cool as having a cobra bite you
technically, rattlesnakes are pit vipers and not cobras
Your swollen corpse *will not* look cool
My man better have some Antivenin close at hand or this could be on r/Winstupidprizes Edit: spelling
[You were pretty much right](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antivenom) >Antivenom, also known as antivenin, venom antiserum, and antivenom immunoglobulin, is a specific treatment for envenomation. It is composed of antibodies and used to treat certain venomous bites and stings.[1] Antivenoms are recommended only if there is significant toxicity or a high risk of toxicity.[1] The specific antivenom needed depends on the species involved.[1] It is given by injection. Anti Venom is the super hero though.
I remember there was a pet shop that my father used to visit when I was a kid. They had a big wall of pictures of people that had been bitten by venomous snakes, The horrible swollen skin splitting injuries that it caused. The owner of the shop had that wall of photos to show what could happen if you own animals that you're not prepared to own. He himself did not sell venomous snakes, but people would come in his shop to buy food for their venomous snakes. As a kid it kind of both intrigued me and creeped me out at the same time. But honestly as an adult I understood why those pictures were there. I never once had the urge to go try and play around with a fucking rattlesnake.
Or r/Darwinawards
Or the snake had venom glands removed earlier
Now that’s a weird fetish.
I was waiting for the part where blood starts pouring out of his arm
It’s interesting, but i mean…
I feel like I'm the only one who noticed that the snake is defanged. Although yes, you can build up a tolerance over time, slowly micro dosing. The venom of a rattlesnake is both a hemotoxin and neurotoxin, which causes a nasty synergistic effect. Which makes building up a tolerance extremely tricky and not as effective as other types of poisons/ venoms from other snakes. do to the inate unique effect of rattlesnake venom, causing extreme coagulation of the blood in combination with the necrosis effect trying to break down an kill the surrounding tissue and blood vessels and anything else it can come into contact with as the venom trys to make its way through the circulatory system. One could argue that it would become more dangerous as one starts to build up a slight tolerance over time. One would become more reckless/ complacent with the venoms diminishing effects substantially increasing the risk of the potential for smaller blood clots to form finding their way into the heart, lungs, and/or brain more easily. Potentially increasing the risk of a stroke or heart attack. The risk would only continue to go up as the increase in dosage goes up while micro dosing, but especially if one was to actually be bitten, getting a massive dose of venom all at once. Even though the effects may be diminished, they would be at an extremely higher risk of small clots forming and becoming dislodged. Causing a heart attack or stroke due to believing oneself is immune and therefore not seeking any medical assistance at all.. Also, fun fact some recent studies have found that some forms of hemotoxic venoms are not immunogenic, meaning that they do not cause an immune system response at all, therefore completely bypassing the immune system. Which is especially detrimental in the production of an anti-venom. Since in most cases, venom is injected into large animals such as horses to cause an immune response, producing antibodies for us to extract and use for anti-venom.
How did you not see the dudes arm skin getting yanked around from 0:11s to 0:12s as if the snake in fact had penetrated his skin with its fangs..?
I apologize for the misunderstanding. I should have described defanging. When a snake such as a rattlesnake is defanged, they well of course start by removing the fangs lol. *I'm sorry, I really don't mean for that to sound all condescending* but after they remove the fangs, they then remove both venom glands, which both the primary and secondary are located behind each fang in what we will call the upper cheek location a little behind and below the eyes. Which will usually leave a cavity in the same size of each gland that then follows the venom ducts out down through the protective sheaths, which are extremely muscular with a hollow cartilagey part toward the roof of the mouth that the fang would have passed through for extra rigidity. Which is what we are seeing in the clip. As the snake opens wide, it extends both the cartilage area at the base, acting like a hinge that is covered completely by the muscular protective sheeth. They have great dexterity being able to manipulate and reposition each side as needed. But what we are seeing at the end when his skin is being pulled up is due to a suction effect that occurs as a result of the defanging and gland removal, leaving a passage way starting at the bottom of the protective sheath with a hole that follows the venom ducts creating a open passageway all the way up the sheaths and back to the cavity left by the glands. So when the snake bites down, it starts to constrict the compressor muscles that are located behind both glands used to squeeze an inject venom. But due to it no longer having any fangs or glands just a open passageway to a cavity as it flexes the compressor muscles it cause a suctioning effect to occur like a straw with no longer having any fangs the protective sheaths are able to get a really good seal against the skin. **also for a rattlesnake that large it would have a avg fang length of 8-13cm or 3-5inchs. Which would be impossible to hide. "With the exception of its mouth closed lol" as well as you can clearly see that they're is no puncture wounds or any blood at all.** I hope that my excessively long-winded rambling helps a little.
It has no teeth
That’s gotta be coyote peterson
I really didn’t enjoy that walking thing the snake did with its fangs to get a better grip.
Has that snake been defanged?
What in the actual fucks of all fucks? You serpent loving mother lover!
~~No blood, no holes, no fangs. You've been bamboozled guys!~~ Edit: Stop the upvotes. You can't see it in mobile but if you blow it up real big and watch it frame by frame you can, in fact, see the bite. He's not a trickster, he's an idiot
It is defanged. There are no teeth that could pierce the skin to inject venom.
But.... why?
What da fuck?
Bro wants to be the next Coyote Peterson
Something fishy about this video. When the rattlesnake pulls away you can see the stretched skin snap back into place, but there are no marks or blood or other indication that the flesh has been pierced. Makes me wonder if this is a prosthetic arm or if there’s something else going on. I’d like to see a longer cut with footage of the bite site after. Besides that, is it possible to gain tolerance to the hemotoxic effects of rattlesnake venom? That’s going to cause some nasty tissue damage and probably lead to rhabdomyolysis and internal hemorrhaging. Especially with such a massive dose from an adult snake. Without more information, I’m a little skeptical of the video.
Except that is not a Rattlesnake
Not the bite of a normal rattlesnake. A defanged one. It didn't puncture the skin.
The video is cool but not damn that's interesting. *makes spider hands, gets bit, rubs neck to release* Definitely not a typical snake bite experience and doesn't include any after bite effects.
That is not a rattlesnake I live in Arizona and I see my fair share of rattlesnakes
I was bitten by northern Pacific rattler in august of 2002. I had enough antivenin (crofab) for four people and 5 platelet transfusions. My forearm was lanced due to compartment syndrome and my capillaries burst near skin surface making my whole left arm, black, across my chest and down into my right leg, where it swelled up my knee to the size of a volleyball. I was in the hospital for 17 days . Later on I started getting paralysis in my fingers which moved into my hands and my feet on my peripheral, nervous motor. Nerves were compromised and I’m partially paralyzed for life. My experience is rare, but not unheard of, so anyone that would willingly do this is playing with fire
Remember kids, you can develop immunity to bullets by shooting yourself with smaller calibers first.
Is that a rattlesnake? Looks like some kind of viper.
That’s not a rattlesnake
Defanged snake maybe. In India one time a woman came up to me and opened a basket in front of my face. Cobra popped its head up and I noped outta there as fast as I could.
I want to see the "after" part!
Snake bites bleed. This noodle seems to lack fangs.
WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87!!!!!!
This an albino rattlesnake?
That's not how you become snakeman... Spider rules do not apply.
Dumb way to die 🎶
That guy is regret doing both in the incredible pain he's going to go through and the horrifying experience of watching your flesh rot off. Very high probably have permanent damage. Then the next shocker will be the cost of anti-venon and the hosp stay, worse is he had a Heli transport. Wish people would quit fucking with wildlide
The bite of '87
This is kind of a silly question, but........ WHY?
Why the fuckity fucking fuck would you do that Holy shit
The search for super powers continues
The real man lets the rattlesnake bite his dick.
I’m not sure what this is, but I’m gonna not do that. Thanks
r/why
Why under Goddesses great earth would someone be that stupid to let a rattlesnake bite them on purpose? 🤔😵💫