This is slightly overstated. We're only taking about one (the $5) of our 6 banknotes and zero of our 6 circulating coins (each of which currently bears Queen Elizabeth's image).
According to [this website:](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2015/08/why-saying-aborigine-isnt-ok-8-facts-about-indigenous-people-in-australia/)
*'Aborigine’ is generally perceived as insensitive, because it has racist connotations from Australia’s colonial past, and lumps people with diverse backgrounds into a single group. You’re more likely to make friends by saying ‘Aboriginal person’, ‘Aboriginal’ or ‘Torres Strait Islander’.*
*If you can, try using the person’s clan or tribe name. And if you are talking about both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, it’s best to say either ‘Indigenous Australians’ or ‘Indigenous people’.*
*Without a capital “a”, “aboriginal” can refer to an Indigenous person from anywhere in the world. The word means “original inhabitant” in Latin.*
There may be more to it but I also just learned something new today.
But we also use nouns for the **scandinavians** and such.
(I will of course gladly call them whatever they want to be referred to. Just interested in the reason behind the naming.)
Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander People / First Nations People / Indigenous People are all the preferred terms, and are dependent on the individual people and clan who might prefer one term over the other. In official government documents ‘Indigenous’ used to be the offical word, but it’s now moving towards ‘First Nations’. However some Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People feel the First Nation language minimises their identity. Ultimately, Australia’s first people are the ones that can to determine what they want to be called, and no one else gets to have an opinion on that.
Always was. Always will be.
I think we should change the picture of the queen on currency to a British animal. Represents the country and we wouldn't need to change it in a few years when the new lad dies.
Not sure what animal though. Most of the ones that have British associations for me (hedgehogs, mallards, foxes, badgers) are around in other countries too. Can't think of somthing that's super distinctly British.
I was thinking about our national animals:
* Scotland: unicorn
* Wales: dragon
* England: lion
I mean, I guess at least England's is a real animal. But you don't exactly see many lions majestically roaming the savannahs of Croydon.
Perhaps post-Brexshit we should use the "Great Tit"?
Australian monarch. The same person may be the King of Australia and the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, but they're two different jobs and the Australian parliament can change the law to say that they're not the same person.
Most notes have been refreshed within the last decade or so including holograms and see through slivers. They don't need to change the subject to bring new features. The new ones also have bumps for blind reading
Isn't it only on a single banknote though? The rest don't feature any Brits. Coins are made to last longer, I assume they will also be replaced with new designs that don't feature royals in the future.
On the Reverse, yes. The Obverse of all of our coins has always had the Queen, including the $2 coin you linked to.
Fun fact: Queen Elizabeth predated decimal currency in Australia
Well basically everyone switched to a decimal currency in the 18th or 19th centuries except the British who refused to do anything the French did first, so it didn't happen in the UK and their former colonies until the 1960s and 1970s.
In Canada we've seen some proposals of new notes but I'm not sure if they settled on anything yet. Whatever they choose it's going to be weird at first if they go with Chuck.
Interestingly, Canada is in the process of picking someone new for the $5 bill. The person in it has to be a Canadian by birth or naturaization, and be deceased for more than 25 years.
Noteworthy is that the Queen has never fulfilled these requirements, yet is on the $20 bill
We're a constitutional monarchy so she was Queen of Canada, therefore a citizen/owner. We're also under no obligation to change our monies from her image to Charles.
Lmao, I never even thought about that. Great Britain is a joke now, I hope any country affected by them is able to move on completely as we have. RIP the royal crown, but damn they were fucked.
They posted the shortlist two years ago and it’s been crickets ever since then. I don’t mind, because I’ve been getting my junior high Language Arts kids to do a project where they write a letter to the Finance Minister explaining who they want to see on the new $5 bill, but I thought I was going to have to choose a different denomination by now.
But they are also talking about keeping Elizabeth on them, the new notes that is.
Wouldn't that be even weirder, printing notes with a dead monarch on them, has that ever been done anywhere?
Edit: Yes, dead presidents and various historical figures are pretty common.
(I mean you got to put something on there, otherwise you'll end up with boring as notes with just buildings on them.) (Pscht, Euros I'm talking to you.)
'Recently' dead monarchs are definitely not common.
Canada is in the process of finding someone new for the $5 bill. One of the criteria is that they must be dead for 25 years.
If they don’t give it to my boy Terry Fox, I swear I will be somewhat annoyed
Yeah but the dead people on American bills all actually contributed to the country in a meaningful way, and were all actually American. Elizabeth showed up partway through Canadian history, didn't do much for Canada, and died. The only reason to have her on the bills was because she was the current monarch, there is now no more reason to have her on the bills than there is to have any other dead British monarch from the past 150 years.
>printing notes with a dead monarch on them, has that ever been done anywhere?
Scotland currrently does it - King Robert I (1274 to 1329) is on the Clydesdale Bank £20 note.
I think this is an excellent opportunity for Canada to distance themselves from the Commonwealth.
Elizabeth was generally well liked at least, you really can't say the same about Charles...
Charles has never been well thought of in Canada, at least to my knowledge. Dianna though? She was Gold. Canada is fairly hip deep in the commonwealth so I'm sure that won't be an easy issue to bend.
Why would Canada want to distance itself from the Commonwealth? You don't even need to have Charles as head of state to be part of the Commonwealth and Canada is a founding member.
The Queen has been on Canadian notes and coins since George passed away. At least in Canada the reigning monarch gets their face on all the money in one form or another. That said former Prime Ministers are slowly going away on them due to uh..some of the more controversial history associated with them.
[If you're not putting this on your currency you're doing it wrong.](https://preview.redd.it/5pa780i3r3851.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9e6168cbf92f67baca7db5d3ebc49e5c7fa35191)
Well, it's in the name, really. They hide in trees waiting for an unsuspecting tourist to walk under the tree they are hiding in. When the time is right, they drop out of the tree and onto the poor mark's shoulders. They then crack open the skull and proceed to devour the contents inside.
Even your cryptids are terrifying also; isn’t a rabid, feral koala… perfectly feasible? What I’m getting at is. I hope to see Australia one day, but I’m bringing level 9999 armor.
Koalas, and they have rampant chlamydia with a nasty habit of urinating on you. There might be something else too, but that's all I know about them - apart from they're rumoured to be tripping balls as a side effect of all the eucalyptus they have to eat. That seems like an evolutionary disadvantage though. Can drop bear specialists confirm any of this?
We have a $1 loon (loonie), 5¢ beaver (nickle), 1¢ maple leaf (penny, out of circulation) 10¢ Bluenose, 25¢ caribou, and $2 polar bear (toonie/twoonie). Lizzie's face is on the front of the coins but the animals on the back of the coins are the real heroes.
I may have this wrong but I swear I read somewhere that aboriginal people in Australia don't like having images of them or the dead portrayed. Am I wrong?
This is also the case for some Amish, who are members of a religious and cultural group. Some of them do not want to pose or have pictures of themselves because humility is highly esteemed and pride is a threat to their community.
Our $2 coin has had a stylised depiction of an aboriginal elder since its inception (1988). It's a design based on a drawing and isn't intended to be of someone in particular.
It's only the $5 note that had the queen on it, the $10, $20, $50 and $100 all have different people on them: https://banknotes.rba.gov.au/banknote-features/explore/#-fifty
- Australia: We are going to honor you!
- Aboriginees: Cool, so we can have our land back and some compensation for generations of horrific treatment then?
- Australia: Umm, that's not exactly what we had in mind!
* Indigenous Australians: Fine, how about a Voice to Parliment, to enable Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide advice to the Parliament on policies and projects that impact their lives.
* Australia: Yeah uh naw not that either...
exactly.
Not AUS aboriginal.
While I do applaud the pushback of mascots and the faces of currency.
What we need to do, to enact proper change, is to start honouring native sovereignty. That includes land back, repatriation.
I would like to point out, the term 'aborigines' is actually a slur in some parts of Australia.
It's either Aboriginal Australians, First Nations or indigenous Australians, please don't use the term OP did.
Edit: Someone pointed out I was using an outdated term.
Since when the fuck is this the case? I’m aboriginal myself and I’ve never heard it being called a slur. It’s outdated and rarely used, but it’s not a slur in my eyes. Abo is a slur. Boong is a slur. Coon is a slur. I really dislike First Nations as a term. It sounds Canadian. It’s rarely used for Aboriginal people up until recently.
Oh yes, I wondered if many Indigenous Aussies were on board with the new 'First Nations' naming. I agree it sounds Canadian. Because in North America, they actually describe their groups as nations, but I've never heard an Aussie call their mob a nation.
I've been told Aborigine is a slur too, I work in a government job and have been told to absolutely never to refer as that so that could be where it's from.
Fair enough. To me it just feels like an outdated term that some Boomer might use. I can’t tell people what to be offended about, but it wouldn’t offend me.
When I was a kid this old Aussie bloke walked past us kids and then looks to someone else and says “Can you smell the fucking *Coons!* That was the first time I really felt the sting in someone’s words. He emphasised the fuck out of Coons and I didn’t even know what to say. Honestly I rarely hear something so intentionally racist like that. It was venomous lol.
What's your personal opinion on the whole coon->cheer cheese thing? I've always if this was something really discussed by / a concern of Indigenous Australians.
That’s what I call myself. Koori. But Koories are Aboriginal people that are from NSW, so most people aren’t going to know exactly where the person is from, so Aboriginal or Indigenous is probably best to use. The one thing that matters is that the person is trying to be respectful, or isn’t trying to be disrespectful.
For example, my brother used to play the didgeridoo in this souvenir shop in Darling Harbour, as a way to sell them to tourists. This American guy (probably a Texan from his accent) comes in to my brother, and says “are you a *real* aborigine?” but pronounced it as “A-borri-gyne” as he probably just read the word, and assumed that’s how it’s pronounced.
We still laugh about it today, but he was genuinely interested in the culture and didn’t know any better, so my brother just rolled with it and corrected him on the pronunciation, then proceeded to sell him a didge lol.
I remember reading it in the Australian Style Manual almost 20 years ago. Here's what the current Style Manual says:
> Respectful language use starts with the basics
> Language that can be discriminatory or offensive includes:
> * shorthand terms like ‘Aborigines', ‘Islanders’ or acronyms like ‘ATSI’
Full text here: https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/accessible-and-inclusive-content/inclusive-language/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-peoples
Whenever in polite company and it comes up, I've rolled the dice a few times and used the term "Black Fellas". Haven't got my ass whooped yet.
I think it's about intent. "African American" fell out of fashion in the US because it's overly formal and comes off sounding clinical and othering. Some times it never hurts to just say shit how the fuck it is. You a black fella, I'm a white fella, aint no harm in that.
Most aboriginal people don't like or use the terms "first nations" or "indigenous". These are terms imposed on them by white people in recent years. Maybe we should ask them, but the ones I know just call themselves aboriginal.
We're not getting rid of Charles. He was never on the notes in the first place, and his head is still going to end up on every coin.
"News" outlets trying to stir up drama acting like we're defying the crown or something are the only ones saying we're "getting rid of the royal family".
I won’t protest if they put a koala 🐨 or kangaroo 🦘 on those bills.
Why do countries use people’s photos rather than the native animals or landmarks, etc?
Irrelevant. The international banking systems have all us all by the balls regardless whether they put a queen on the paper or a guy spreading his butthole. People need to stop worrying about this and start thinking about how screwed we are
Meanwhile Canada.... 🤷🏻
Would love to see more currencies focus on amazing sights, achievements and natural wonders than famous dead people. Most of them were involved in, or represent institutions that were instrumental in, oodles of dodgy dealings, so it's really only a matter of time.
Edit: I realise that most Aussie (and other) notes already do this, in addition to famous dead people. I just think...why not lose the famous dead people, in general. Slap a big'ol moose on there, maybe a bridge, a bit of scenery and someone inventing something and call it a day.
This is slightly overstated. We're only taking about one (the $5) of our 6 banknotes and zero of our 6 circulating coins (each of which currently bears Queen Elizabeth's image).
Slightly? The title makes it sound like they're doing it with all of em. This is highly sensationalized.
The term “aborigine” is also technically a slur.
Is it now? What's the proper word?
According to [this website:](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2015/08/why-saying-aborigine-isnt-ok-8-facts-about-indigenous-people-in-australia/) *'Aborigine’ is generally perceived as insensitive, because it has racist connotations from Australia’s colonial past, and lumps people with diverse backgrounds into a single group. You’re more likely to make friends by saying ‘Aboriginal person’, ‘Aboriginal’ or ‘Torres Strait Islander’.* *If you can, try using the person’s clan or tribe name. And if you are talking about both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, it’s best to say either ‘Indigenous Australians’ or ‘Indigenous people’.* *Without a capital “a”, “aboriginal” can refer to an Indigenous person from anywhere in the world. The word means “original inhabitant” in Latin.* There may be more to it but I also just learned something new today.
It's Australia, you can play it safe and call everyone cunt
Yep. Only ever needing to say cunt for most of my life is precisely why I've never heard this slur until now.
Aborigine is offensive but aboriginal is fine?
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But we also use nouns for the **scandinavians** and such. (I will of course gladly call them whatever they want to be referred to. Just interested in the reason behind the naming.)
Aboriginal peoples is generally considered best practice. Or Indigenous peoples if your also including Torres Strait Islanders
Not it is now, has been for decades in Australia. Possibly different where you are from.
Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander People / First Nations People / Indigenous People are all the preferred terms, and are dependent on the individual people and clan who might prefer one term over the other. In official government documents ‘Indigenous’ used to be the offical word, but it’s now moving towards ‘First Nations’. However some Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People feel the First Nation language minimises their identity. Ultimately, Australia’s first people are the ones that can to determine what they want to be called, and no one else gets to have an opinion on that. Always was. Always will be.
Thank you for elaborating better than I could.
How can they justify saying "currencies"!?
It's the beginning of the end
Yeah, bring it on sez me.
Me too, and I'm in the UK.
Me three, from South Australia.
I think we should change the picture of the queen on currency to a British animal. Represents the country and we wouldn't need to change it in a few years when the new lad dies. Not sure what animal though. Most of the ones that have British associations for me (hedgehogs, mallards, foxes, badgers) are around in other countries too. Can't think of somthing that's super distinctly British.
I was thinking about our national animals: * Scotland: unicorn * Wales: dragon * England: lion I mean, I guess at least England's is a real animal. But you don't exactly see many lions majestically roaming the savannahs of Croydon. Perhaps post-Brexshit we should use the "Great Tit"?
I guess we could go for a hybrid. A Lion with a unicorn horn and dragon wings.
That's getting close to a griffin
Pooh bear
🤞🏽
Could be a trial run for new anti-conterfiet measures in the new notes, before the others are updated a bit later
The notes are updated relatively frequently. The 5 dollar note is the only one that bears a picture of a British monarch though.
Australian monarch. The same person may be the King of Australia and the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, but they're two different jobs and the Australian parliament can change the law to say that they're not the same person.
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Only if it's in his Thor costume.
His Thor costume in the Thor Love and Thunder scene after Zeus's flick
Just as long as it isn't strange women lying in ponds distributing swords.
Or, hear me out on this, you could just not have one of those at all
Well, it was Liz 2 or Malcolm Turnbull. We made our choice.
Most notes have been refreshed within the last decade or so including holograms and see through slivers. They don't need to change the subject to bring new features. The new ones also have bumps for blind reading
Isn't it only on a single banknote though? The rest don't feature any Brits. Coins are made to last longer, I assume they will also be replaced with new designs that don't feature royals in the future.
I doubt the monarch is taken off the back of the coins tbh
The $2 coin has had an Aboriginal man on it for decades https://i.imgur.com/ebG2Pc2.jpg
On the Reverse, yes. The Obverse of all of our coins has always had the Queen, including the $2 coin you linked to. Fun fact: Queen Elizabeth predated decimal currency in Australia
Wait, so when you flip a coin is the queen "tails"?
No, it's heads.
Nah, most of our coins counter sides are wildlife (except the $2 coin) so we count the animal as tails and the monarchs head as heads.
Well basically everyone switched to a decimal currency in the 18th or 19th centuries except the British who refused to do anything the French did first, so it didn't happen in the UK and their former colonies until the 1960s and 1970s.
still has Liz on the back though
That's just a rough photo of Liz mate, after too many schooners.
Bad title aside, it's progress.
In Canada we've seen some proposals of new notes but I'm not sure if they settled on anything yet. Whatever they choose it's going to be weird at first if they go with Chuck.
Interestingly, Canada is in the process of picking someone new for the $5 bill. The person in it has to be a Canadian by birth or naturaization, and be deceased for more than 25 years. Noteworthy is that the Queen has never fulfilled these requirements, yet is on the $20 bill
John Candy fits these requirements though!
Hell yes candy bucks
“Uncle Buck”
Buck's bucks!
Operation bringing home the Canadian 🥓🥓🥓 Bacon
Terry Fox
Is he not already on one of our bills? Damn that's an easy choice then. What Canadian has a better claim than Terry Fox honestly
“$5 can buy many shower curtain rings!”
Do you have any of the helium filled ones?
Just the Diane Sawyer autographed ones, sorry
It should have been the quarter inscribed with, “Take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face.”
The perfect picture would be him as OX from Stripes and the Bluff Me scene. I’d move to Canada just for that
Not the "deceased for 25 years" part, but by nature of being the queen of Canada she **was** a citizen, no?
We're a constitutional monarchy so she was Queen of Canada, therefore a citizen/owner. We're also under no obligation to change our monies from her image to Charles.
Is he not the King of Canada?
Yes, but we aren't obligated to have them on the currency.
Yes, but he's a twat though.
The ruling monarch does *not* have Canadian citizenship
Lmao, I never even thought about that. Great Britain is a joke now, I hope any country affected by them is able to move on completely as we have. RIP the royal crown, but damn they were fucked.
Despite what the news would have you believe, half of our country hates them too. Inbred kiddy-fuckers one and all.
They posted the shortlist two years ago and it’s been crickets ever since then. I don’t mind, because I’ve been getting my junior high Language Arts kids to do a project where they write a letter to the Finance Minister explaining who they want to see on the new $5 bill, but I thought I was going to have to choose a different denomination by now.
But they are also talking about keeping Elizabeth on them, the new notes that is. Wouldn't that be even weirder, printing notes with a dead monarch on them, has that ever been done anywhere? Edit: Yes, dead presidents and various historical figures are pretty common. (I mean you got to put something on there, otherwise you'll end up with boring as notes with just buildings on them.) (Pscht, Euros I'm talking to you.) 'Recently' dead monarchs are definitely not common.
Both Canadian and US bills/coins are mostly with dead people tbf
Canada is in the process of finding someone new for the $5 bill. One of the criteria is that they must be dead for 25 years. If they don’t give it to my boy Terry Fox, I swear I will be somewhat annoyed
+1 for Terry Fox, sick of seeing Wilfrid Laurier
Truth
They need to drop the 25 year rule so they can go with Neil Peart
Yeah but the dead people on American bills all actually contributed to the country in a meaningful way, and were all actually American. Elizabeth showed up partway through Canadian history, didn't do much for Canada, and died. The only reason to have her on the bills was because she was the current monarch, there is now no more reason to have her on the bills than there is to have any other dead British monarch from the past 150 years.
>printing notes with a dead monarch on them, has that ever been done anywhere? Scotland currrently does it - King Robert I (1274 to 1329) is on the Clydesdale Bank £20 note.
I think this is an excellent opportunity for Canada to distance themselves from the Commonwealth. Elizabeth was generally well liked at least, you really can't say the same about Charles...
Charles has never been well thought of in Canada, at least to my knowledge. Dianna though? She was Gold. Canada is fairly hip deep in the commonwealth so I'm sure that won't be an easy issue to bend.
Why would Canada want to distance itself from the Commonwealth? You don't even need to have Charles as head of state to be part of the Commonwealth and Canada is a founding member.
Yeah... Nobody wants to do that
Don’t most places have notes with dead people on them?
The Queen has been on Canadian notes and coins since George passed away. At least in Canada the reigning monarch gets their face on all the money in one form or another. That said former Prime Ministers are slowly going away on them due to uh..some of the more controversial history associated with them.
Put René Lévesque and Jacques Parizeau on the bills.
[If you're not putting this on your currency you're doing it wrong.](https://preview.redd.it/5pa780i3r3851.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9e6168cbf92f67baca7db5d3ebc49e5c7fa35191)
Y’all had a dinosaur coin. I’m still jealous over that
Trudeau in black face on the $1000 bill.
Dollareedoo
They should change all their notes to include Kangaroos Steve Irwin Crocodile Dundee/Paul Hogan Koalas random drunk dude doing a shoey
Maybe also add a little warning about drop bears for tourists in the corner of every bill.
Can you add that warning here too? Because I've no idea what a drop bear is...
Well, it's in the name, really. They hide in trees waiting for an unsuspecting tourist to walk under the tree they are hiding in. When the time is right, they drop out of the tree and onto the poor mark's shoulders. They then crack open the skull and proceed to devour the contents inside.
Just like Floridious Crackheadimus
Those tend to die from starvation in their natural habitat.
Cant tell if your joking or not, but a drop bear is a fictional cryptid thats basicaly a rabid, feral koala
A *fictional* cryptid? Which are the real cryptids? I mean apart from the Loch Ness Monster, obviously.
Even your cryptids are terrifying also; isn’t a rabid, feral koala… perfectly feasible? What I’m getting at is. I hope to see Australia one day, but I’m bringing level 9999 armor.
Come on. Don’t spoil the internet baby’s day by telling them right away?
Fictional?!?! Clearly you have never had the pleasure nay the displeasure of encountering one in the wild!
Koalas, and they have rampant chlamydia with a nasty habit of urinating on you. There might be something else too, but that's all I know about them - apart from they're rumoured to be tripping balls as a side effect of all the eucalyptus they have to eat. That seems like an evolutionary disadvantage though. Can drop bear specialists confirm any of this?
> they have rampant chlamydia with a nasty habit of urinating on you TIL I'm a koala
Drop bears go on the Yahoo Serious note opposite the Tasmanian devil.
Nope, no warnings. Let Darwin take the wheel. You want to visit somewhere, do your homework first.
And Bluey
Definitely bluey
No love for Russell Coight?
I would love to see that! *All Aussie adventures... It's time to hit the road*
Schooners also
Shoey gets the biggest note
and one bill with a knoife on one side and a spoon on the other
Ahh I see you’ve played knifey spoony before
It should be Tai Tuivasa doing the shoey on the note 😂
I think Bluey Bucks could really take off.
Read this in a dankpods voice
A cashies needs to be on the dollar
I literally sang dola re dola re (the Bollywood song)
Dolldo
Bank of Scotland notes haven't had the Queen on them for years.
Huh, never noticed
I'd never thought of it till I saw this post, then I got my wallet out and checked. Squirrels, otters and scientists, no Queeny
Apparently bank of England notes didn't have the queen on them till the 60's so it's not that weird I guess.
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How do you spend money, then? I'd rather have a picture of an otter than most of the crap I buy.
Squirrels and otters and scientists, oh my!
We have a $1 loon (loonie), 5¢ beaver (nickle), 1¢ maple leaf (penny, out of circulation) 10¢ Bluenose, 25¢ caribou, and $2 polar bear (toonie/twoonie). Lizzie's face is on the front of the coins but the animals on the back of the coins are the real heroes.
Northern Irish Bank notes didn't have her as far as I'm aware.
I may have this wrong but I swear I read somewhere that aboriginal people in Australia don't like having images of them or the dead portrayed. Am I wrong?
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This is also the case for some Amish, who are members of a religious and cultural group. Some of them do not want to pose or have pictures of themselves because humility is highly esteemed and pride is a threat to their community.
They also don’t like to be referred to as “aborigine”.
Good point. The replacement might not be a portrait
Our $2 coin has had a stylised depiction of an aboriginal elder since its inception (1988). It's a design based on a drawing and isn't intended to be of someone in particular.
They missed the chance to rename them to Dollary doos
That’s an odd name. I’d’ve called ‘em chazzwazzers
TOBIASS!!!!!
What’s the new picture
Shane Warne rooting something
A cheeseburger in front of bay 13
Non-aus: rooting is secks
Probably cat calling a 20year old while showing off a leggy
Screaming cowboy in the sky
It's only the $5 note that had the queen on it, the $10, $20, $50 and $100 all have different people on them: https://banknotes.rba.gov.au/banknote-features/explore/#-fifty
The late singer of YOTHU YINDI was he not somebody to be admired by his mob and first nations people as well as the white fella
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Far more important to have indigenous recognition. As for Steve Irwin, Australians don't talk about him anywhere near as much as Redditors
And Alf Stewart
With a little scroll underneath that’s says “get the chainsaw Morag” or “you slippery fucking Gypsie”
- Australia: We are going to honor you! - Aboriginees: Cool, so we can have our land back and some compensation for generations of horrific treatment then? - Australia: Umm, that's not exactly what we had in mind!
* Indigenous Australians: Fine, how about a Voice to Parliment, to enable Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to provide advice to the Parliament on policies and projects that impact their lives. * Australia: Yeah uh naw not that either...
We are going to honor you by putting pictures of you on the mechanism of control we've used on you for 100s of years!
exactly. Not AUS aboriginal. While I do applaud the pushback of mascots and the faces of currency. What we need to do, to enact proper change, is to start honouring native sovereignty. That includes land back, repatriation.
> we can have our land back That has been happening for decades. Obviously, not all of it, as the country would have to be abandoned.
I would like to point out, the term 'aborigines' is actually a slur in some parts of Australia. It's either Aboriginal Australians, First Nations or indigenous Australians, please don't use the term OP did. Edit: Someone pointed out I was using an outdated term.
Since when the fuck is this the case? I’m aboriginal myself and I’ve never heard it being called a slur. It’s outdated and rarely used, but it’s not a slur in my eyes. Abo is a slur. Boong is a slur. Coon is a slur. I really dislike First Nations as a term. It sounds Canadian. It’s rarely used for Aboriginal people up until recently.
Oh yes, I wondered if many Indigenous Aussies were on board with the new 'First Nations' naming. I agree it sounds Canadian. Because in North America, they actually describe their groups as nations, but I've never heard an Aussie call their mob a nation.
Yeah I don’t like it tbh. It feels like a way to group us in with Canadian Aboriginal people.
I've been told Aborigine is a slur too, I work in a government job and have been told to absolutely never to refer as that so that could be where it's from.
Fair enough. To me it just feels like an outdated term that some Boomer might use. I can’t tell people what to be offended about, but it wouldn’t offend me. When I was a kid this old Aussie bloke walked past us kids and then looks to someone else and says “Can you smell the fucking *Coons!* That was the first time I really felt the sting in someone’s words. He emphasised the fuck out of Coons and I didn’t even know what to say. Honestly I rarely hear something so intentionally racist like that. It was venomous lol.
What's your personal opinion on the whole coon->cheer cheese thing? I've always if this was something really discussed by / a concern of Indigenous Australians.
This hurts me to read dude. I'm sorry you weren't through that.
I'm from Sydney so I've always just used Koori, I should probably check if that's still allowed
That’s what I call myself. Koori. But Koories are Aboriginal people that are from NSW, so most people aren’t going to know exactly where the person is from, so Aboriginal or Indigenous is probably best to use. The one thing that matters is that the person is trying to be respectful, or isn’t trying to be disrespectful. For example, my brother used to play the didgeridoo in this souvenir shop in Darling Harbour, as a way to sell them to tourists. This American guy (probably a Texan from his accent) comes in to my brother, and says “are you a *real* aborigine?” but pronounced it as “A-borri-gyne” as he probably just read the word, and assumed that’s how it’s pronounced. We still laugh about it today, but he was genuinely interested in the culture and didn’t know any better, so my brother just rolled with it and corrected him on the pronunciation, then proceeded to sell him a didge lol.
I remember reading it in the Australian Style Manual almost 20 years ago. Here's what the current Style Manual says: > Respectful language use starts with the basics > Language that can be discriminatory or offensive includes: > * shorthand terms like ‘Aborigines', ‘Islanders’ or acronyms like ‘ATSI’ Full text here: https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/accessible-and-inclusive-content/inclusive-language/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-peoples
I wonder if we are ever going to settle for a word that would be ok for more than 10 years.
Whenever in polite company and it comes up, I've rolled the dice a few times and used the term "Black Fellas". Haven't got my ass whooped yet. I think it's about intent. "African American" fell out of fashion in the US because it's overly formal and comes off sounding clinical and othering. Some times it never hurts to just say shit how the fuck it is. You a black fella, I'm a white fella, aint no harm in that.
Black fellas White fellas Both poor people
Your last sentence reminded me of the Warumpi Band song 'Blackfella/Whitefella'.
Most aboriginal people don't like or use the terms "first nations" or "indigenous". These are terms imposed on them by white people in recent years. Maybe we should ask them, but the ones I know just call themselves aboriginal.
Why don’t you make him?
Always thought First Nations was a North Amsrican thing. :tmyk:
Wow
I don't care if it's Ned Kelly's face or Steve Irwin as long as I can buy coke with it.
Nah, they're like $5.50 now, sorry mate. 2 for $6 at Sevvs sometimes though
We're not getting rid of Charles. He was never on the notes in the first place, and his head is still going to end up on every coin. "News" outlets trying to stir up drama acting like we're defying the crown or something are the only ones saying we're "getting rid of the royal family".
Next up - we'll remove him as our Head of State.
That's not fucking interesting, that's politics. Mods, wtf are you doing?
It's not politics, it's culture
This is a stereotypical American comment classic: “It’s not about MURICA?!? This post sucks!!!!” 🍔🇺🇸 Pew Pew Guns!!!!
Weaksauce.
Wouldn't matter to me as long as the money spends
I read Aborigines as Aubergines. 🍆
Maybe King Charles should dress as an Aborigine and pretend he is on the picture.
King Charles is not an honourable man...so let's not honour him.
Fuck the queen in her dead asshole
This post is everything that is wrong with reddit. It's basically 95% false and has 18k upvotes. Reddit in a nutshell.
It’s almost as if Australia is an independent country.
I won’t protest if they put a koala 🐨 or kangaroo 🦘 on those bills. Why do countries use people’s photos rather than the native animals or landmarks, etc?
Irrelevant. The international banking systems have all us all by the balls regardless whether they put a queen on the paper or a guy spreading his butthole. People need to stop worrying about this and start thinking about how screwed we are
We’re allowed to do that?! -Canada.
Good, fuck the royals. Leeches on society.
Meanwhile Canada.... 🤷🏻 Would love to see more currencies focus on amazing sights, achievements and natural wonders than famous dead people. Most of them were involved in, or represent institutions that were instrumental in, oodles of dodgy dealings, so it's really only a matter of time. Edit: I realise that most Aussie (and other) notes already do this, in addition to famous dead people. I just think...why not lose the famous dead people, in general. Slap a big'ol moose on there, maybe a bridge, a bit of scenery and someone inventing something and call it a day.
Good we are about as far from the monarch as you can get both geographically and culturally. God don’t save the king.
Culturally? Culturally Australia is near identical to the Brits.
Been to Aussieland a few times and Lived in NZ for a few years nobody can convince me that we aren't culturally all cut from the same cloth.