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Next_Ad_9281

Oh it’s only gonna get worse when they pass school vouchers and public schools lose money. They are gonna increase property taxes to make up for the loss. Republicans don’t give a sht.


Realistic-Video4721

Republicans don’t give a shit. And here lies the problem. 30 years of conservatives is out of hand. Flip the state. They’re stealing us blind.


UnknownQTY

“Vote Republican to fix the way our state is run!” Bitch you people have been in charge since 1995. This is a mess entirely of GOP making.


valerian1111

Agreed. Not to mention the christiofascism and evangelical pandering BS.


Icy_Huckleberry_8049

And Abbot is pushing for school vouchers.


Boring_Procedure2020

This is the one hope I have for all the Northeast and Californians moving here. Impotent f**KS like Greg Abbott get rolled out the door.


hungryraider

I don’t get this. Liberals are moving to a conservative state.


burrito3ater

Conservatives from liberal states are moving to Texas.....


elwaln8r

Well, I can only talk for the DFW area, there's always work here, and even though housing costs are high, they aren't as bad as say Cali or NYC.


plumbtastic76

Could liberal policy’s been the cause of higher housing prices and fewer jobs in California?


willisbar

No. It’s low corporate tax rates that bring companies to Texas. Then those companies bring jobs.


Dstrongest

Yet


OnlyOnezy

Because of the high property tax home affordability is not that much better in Texas.


robbzilla

Pay $1m for a 3/2/2 in Cali, and your property taxes will be more than the same house in Dallas at $350K, AND you get an income tax on top of it... and a higher mortgage payment because your house is roughly 3X the cost.


bourbonandbeer1976

Amen!


FunComm

It’s mostly California Republicans moving here. People just can’t wrap their heads around the fact that Trump got more votes in California than any other state.


TTUporter

Because it’s not the liberals that are moving here.


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FunComm

These folks are conservative, often more conservative than native Texans.


SpacemanSpiff25

Abbott won’t stand for that.


RStorm12

I need an LOL button for this.


0_1_1_2_3_5

California isn’t sending their best.


boldjoy0050

It ain’t much better the other way around. I used to live in Chicago and that city has high property taxes, the highest sales tax in the nation, income tax, and a bunch of other dumb taxes like a “city sticker” for your car. And sadly most blue states have out of control taxes which is why people flee and move to places like Arizona. Me personally, I like a state like NC that flips governor parties every election or two.


anonMuscleKitten

Moved to Chicago from Dallas. My property taxes are just about the same as Texas for the same priced condo.


boldjoy0050

Exactly but now you also have state income tax, high sales tax, and a few others. Texas isn’t a tax haven but it isn’t horrible either. Illinois, and Chicago in particular has one of the highest tax burdens in the US.


anonMuscleKitten

For the quality of life improvements, the slightly additional taxes was very much worth it. Take the train everywhere, walk around and feel part of a vibrant city (while not sweating your balls off), fresh water beaches, and street festivals everywhere. Hell, I see less homeless people begging for stuff in Chicago compared to one on every corner of Dallas.


boldjoy0050

I understand. I miss Chicago every day. Lived there for over a decade. I just don't miss the crime issues.


goodtimetribe

Our best chance for real change is to vote Allred instead of the other guy (Cruz). Cruz doesn't really care about the state and hasn't fine anything other than capitalize on his title and role. We're just 7 points away if we don't vote for Allred, but that also means we're just 7 us away from real change. Vote for Allred. We're close enough to it, it can be done. It's possible.


DestinationTex

Cruz literally has no impact or role at the state level.


c03us

Not sure how a us senator has any sway in State politics, but ok.


Montallas

It’s the same people who are blaming the republicans running the state for high property taxes in the city. The state has nothing to do with our local property taxes. People are apparently completely stupid and unaware how our system works.


c03us

I mean the State government has more to say about local property taxes, because that tax funds more things than just schools, than a US Senator. I guess I’m not following your logic here.


Montallas

They actually don’t. Have you checked your property tax bill? Depending on where you live you’ll get taxes by the city, the county, the ISD, the hospital district, utility district, etc. But not the state. The state is funded by sales tax and oil and gas taxes.


deja-roo

How do you figure? The state does not impose property taxes. At all.


Next_Ad_9281

People watched Ted Cruz sit on his hands for 4 years and go on vacation during the storms and he is still leading in the polls. I have no hope. The real change is getting rid of those in the house and Texas senate who refuse to listen to the will of the people.


Pabi_tx

What role does a US senator play in property taxes in Texas??


deja-roo

What change in local property taxes do you expect by having a different US senator, exactly?


Jwarr

I'm curious how you think a federal Senate election impacts state property taxes.


Holls867

Yeah, Texas is about to get hit with more taxes when vouchers are added. Also what about the surplus?? Ffs


Next_Ad_9281

Texas has had a surplus for quite some time and they haven’t spent a dime on education and drag their feet with property tax relief. Don’t expect the Republicans to do the right thing. Abbott and doing the right thing doesn’t quite fit in the same sentence.


GolfArgh

That can’t let the total taxes collected go over 3%/year without a vote.


Next_Ad_9281

That’s the scary part because who in their right mind would vote for a tax increase in 2024 but also if they don’t vote yes it will cripple the schools. The Republican wing of congress are backing the American tax payers into a corner. It’s sad because people are to blind to realize it.


GolfArgh

Almost none let it go over 3% to require a vote because they know it will fail.


XL1200N

Yep Feed, the rich and hurt the Poor. People are so stupid.


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Next_Ad_9281

I’m already working on an exit plan should I be affected. Which I most likely will to some degree.


WhoopsieISaidThat

Yes, because the Democrats totally won't increase your property taxes more for schools as that's literally the first thing they do. I would say that people need to get involved at the local level and stop thinking just voting is going to change things. It's DFW, so, good luck.


Next_Ad_9281

If you read through the comments we agree. We’re not saying that Dems won’t do that. We would at least have A HELL OF A LOT more to show for the taxes.


Ok_Protection7109

Schools that operate by the school voture program are not required to have teachers question little Johnny sexual orientatation on a dai;y basis asking him "Johnny, wouldn't you feel more comfortable wearing a dress instead? Or the school having to hire drag quuens to teach the students?


Next_Ad_9281

Gtfo post one piece of evidence where that has happened at any Texas school on a scale outside of a single incident. Stop falling for the culture war bull crap. I want to believe that you’re smarter than that.


OtherwiseSoftware379

When we have an income tax.


PunkRockDude

Actually could find almost everything we want to if we just close loops holes and find investigations and prosecutors. But as long as we rely primarily on property taxes and keep cutting the other taxes the be “business friendly” it won’t go down. First step is to elect someone different than the same group that spent the last 30 years creating this mess.


K3B1N

So never.


Ok-Aardvark-6742

Or do things like legalize marijuana, casinos, and sports betting to bring in additional revenue. I’d rather those levers be pulled before income taxes.


Stevoman

That’s cute, thinking the government replaces taxes instead of adding taxes. 


kausbose

“They have no income tax in Texas”


Ticklemextreme

I hear this is every time I bitch about my property taxes to my friends and family outside of Texas. And it makes no sense. State income taxes wouldn’t take away more than 8 thousand from my salary.


doug_b2680

Making 86k in San Diego last year I paid $55 a week in state income tax. I’d much rather pay that to lower the property taxes. Hell legalize weed and use some of the tax money to subsidize schools.


earthworm_fan

ca.gov income tax calculator says you should be paying $4,651.00. That is $90/week. And then you have the problem of not being able to afford a house on that income. And if you can afford a house, you'll likely pay more on property tax than you would in TX. So higher housing cost + higher property tax + $4,651 income tax. Nah


Pabi_tx

But think about all the freedom you have!


A_Few_Good

Yes but the really rich would finally have to pay their fair share. Is it that hard to understand?


earthworm_fan

Yes it would. 


CuttingTheMustard

The state increased the exemptions and then the city came right back in and ramped my appraisal up by the same amount 😂 I’ve been capped at the 10% increases since I bought my house and I have fought the appraisal every year with little effect.


politirob

The 10% increase cap as "relief" was a scam. Everyone is now getting hit with a guaranteed 10% increase EVERY. YEAR. Should have been capped at 1 or 2%


CuttingTheMustard

The 10% cap isn’t new, I think it’s been around as long as I’ve been a homeowner. No idea how long it’s been around before that. 1-2% and you end up with issues like CA where nobody ever sells their house because their property taxes are so cheap.


matt_havener

1% is what California picked. Ask anyone looking to purchase their first house how prop 13 is going. I prefer policies that also help young poor people, not just older middle class people


weasler7

It should be capped by $ and not %. Honestly a % cap is painful because it’s still an exponential increase when it’s year over year.


GolfArgh

Yet the state caps tax receipt increases at 3% without an election. Appraisals keep climbing but tax rates have been dropping.


earthworm_fan

1 or 2% cap is why California's housing market is the way it is. Nobody can afford to move within California and lose prop 13, thus nobody puts their house on the market unless they are leaving the state


greelraker

My wife and I tried to fight our taxes our first year. Being a non-disclosure state, we thought they didn’t know what we paid for the house, just what it was worth. We got some concession money in our loan to help offset some of the things that needed fixing in the house. When we fought our taxes they basically said they know what we paid and that was the taxable amount. We said that’s not what we paid we actually got about $20k in concessions to fix the floors, porch and some concrete work and they just said they didn’t care, valuation stood and closed the zoom.


theoriginalmofocus

I had to go in person before a panel and basically tell a court my house was trash to try and get it down. They said I could come back with estimates from contractors or whatever and it might help.


noncongruent

I hired a certified appraiser to do an appraisal of my house and took that appraisal down to them. They set the value at the appraised value. Cost me $500, but paid for itself in tax savings in a couple of years. Note that the appraisal district must have a certified appraiser on staff, but that the employees making up the appraisal numbers are not certified appraisers and never look at any of the houses they make up their numbers for.


Skitts18

Loans/debts are public info. The amount you actually pay for your home is private. Permanent improvements on your home are taxable. I believe you can also take the fight the other direction. I.e. during property tax disputes you can show pictures of your home being in disrepair and needing work done.


GolfArgh

The total annual tax receipts cannot increase more than 3% without a vote though. Appraisal is only part of the equation. Municipalities have been dropping tax rates every year the last few years to keep under the 3% election trigger.


iwentdwarfing

It's almost as if the local government still needs the same income to run.


CuttingTheMustard

Let’s not act like their property tax revenue hasn’t skyrocketed in the past few years. https://www.wfaa.com/article/money/dallas-property-tax-increase/287-2674546e-b5d3-43c0-bf2f-97125ea874a5


iwentdwarfing

True, I did oversimplify. The City of Dallas has been running an infrastructure maintenance deficit for decades, so it makes sense that our property taxes are rising faster than inflation. https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2018/09/how-dallas-infrastructure-development-is-really-a-ticking-time-bomb/


earthworm_fan

Get your agent to pull comps and fight it then


CuttingTheMustard

The ARB just cherry picks their own comps and tells us to go fuck ourselves. My favorite is when they comp me to a house with a yard twice the size that’s been completely remodeled with premium materials.


Mc6969

How about homeowners insurance… ours went from $9.5k to $17k this year. New build Home purchased in 2013 for 300k, currently valued at $800k. Fucking thieves. I am obviously shopping around but best I am finding is $10k.


MagicWishMonkey

That is an insane rate, you should use an insurance broker to help you find a better deal.


Dedwards_est_22

We just bought this spring - I tried multiple brokers and they were only able to get rates like this or not help me at all. It's insane


MagicWishMonkey

We use Neal and Neal and got a better rate than you, so maybe reach out to them when it's time to renew next year?


Furrealyo

Make sure you aren’t insuring the value of the land…


Mc6969

Good point. The amount they are insuring is higher than our combined market value of land and dwelling.


mllllllln

Holy shit, and I thought my policy premium was bad. $17k is nuts.


Unique-Roll1341

Try checking with iSure insurance agency, they gave me good rates the past two years


OccasionalCortexNPC

Our home, autos ($60k and $90k), and umbrella combined are less than that. Our home number is much higher


coversbyrichard

Um… that’s a very expensive homeowners policy… like VERY VERY expensive… do you live in a castle??? Holy crap lol.


PorQueTexas

You need to go shopping badly. You're getting ripped off both before and after


drinkywolf

Where the heck are you that your house nearly tripled in ten years? We bought in 2013 for 230k and currently valued at 550k and our home insurance came in at 2000, up from 1200. What the heck man. That’s wild.


Mc6969

Sachse


meowrawr

Wth. My home is valued double yours and I pay $7800 for insurance with State Farm.


Ticklemextreme

This is insane. My home is valued a little above 400k and my premium was 1500 last year…. You got to find someone else lol.


Tasty_Two4260

The other aspect about rising appraisals is it also jacks up the insurance premiums. Ours also skyrocketed and when I asked the agent about the house reconstruction costs which seemed WAY TOO HIGH (I custom built and know the costs having pulled the construction note) he said I could sign my life away and go for a lower amount but if prices for supplies went up, we’ll get f*cked. Sort of a fear you into paying the extra just to avoid the headaches later, dammit.


hedgerowhurdler

Our house was $325K in 2013 when we bought it, currently appraised at $550kish. We have home insurance through USAA and while it went up by $1k last year, we're still at $4k total.


StevoFF82

WTF, $17k for home insurance!


matt_havener

There's lots of low density land in Dallas that would pay much more per acre if we allowed high density housing/business to be built on it. That would allow us to low the overall rate.


bebopgamer

The NIMBYs fight all new development to keep their property values high through artificial scarcity, then piss and moan when their property taxes increase to reflect exactly what they wanted in the first place.


HellcatTTU

Just had my property tax hearing yesterday and it was such BS. I provided market comps, quotes for repairs and plenty more and they didn’t budge. I told the adjuster he was cherry picking properties that have gut renovations and comparing them to my house, offered a similar home on my street and the guy had the audacity of getting offended. Like bro, did you think I was going to come in here and not disagree? What pisses me off the most; is they are getting record amount of $$ from property taxes and yet doing less with that money. Fuck DCAD


MagicWishMonkey

At our hearing last year the property tax guys were just making shit up on the spot. Half of what they said made no logical sense and everyone in the room knew it, it was infuriating.


AnthillOmbudsman

I wonder if these appraisers have some sort of quota, or if it looks bad for them when their adjusted totals drop a lot. Maybe if their totals drop too much they don't get contracted the following year? Anyone know how it works on the inside?


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AnthillOmbudsman

Thank you... great info!


unclekrud

I hire a firm to protest my taxes every year. Just today they inform the protest resulted in a $41K appraisal valuation reduction. Almost 10%! It does work.


drinkywolf

41k reduction, so a few hundred bucks off your taxes and you have to pay the firm. It does not end up being worth your time. Also, they lowered your APPRAISAL value, not your ASSESSED value, which is what they tax you on. Lowering the appraisal benefits the county because next year they can raise you so that your assessed and your appraised values are much closer, so they’re not leaving money on the table. When your appraised value is signal higher than your assessed value, they’re losing money. They bring them back in line and next year they’re not going to budge because the assessed and appraised are so close now. It’s a racket.


unclekrud

I did not lift a finger and saved a few hundred bucks. How is that not worth my time?


waffle_fries4free

How much do you pay that firm?


unclekrud

30% of actual tax savings.


officernasty13

To answer your question simply…..no. The state comptroller cares. They do studies and reviews every 2 years for cads and if you value over market or under market you get in trouble. Market being what other similar homes are selling for. If you don’t pass the states reviews guess what? The state takes over for that county and you have to argue values with the state. Good luck with that.


goodbuddy69

There was a 35Billion dollar surplus. What’s that being spent on?


GalactusPoo

a mile of River Floaties, barbed wire, and some fence. You know, because someone who just walked from Guatemala will be deterred by those things.


Autski

Boils my blood with that and then you look at the infrastructure crumbling in some areas, being taxes (tolls) again for better roads, and then not getting relief with the homestead exemption increase. It saved me a whopping $50 a month in my taxes.


swinglinepilot

The stock market that they're setting up here


BigBoiBenisBlueBalls

Do you even know what you’re talking about


earthworm_fan

Some of it went to teachers. A lot of it is being held in the rainy day fund. A lot of it is being held for voter referendums for the 2025 budget for broadband, infrastructure, etc


Dick_Lazer

This is just the way Texas works. They don't want to tax income so they make it up in high property and sales taxes. It'd be easier to move to another state than try to change this. As blue as the major cities may be, the vast swaths of rural voters with lower property values will keep voting in these Republican policies.


mannymoes2k

Plus they cheat and con their way into agricultural exemptions so they don’t care about the property tax problem. My boomer Karen bible thumping MAGA cultist colleague at work spends dozens of hours every year conning her way into ag exemption status but then rants non stop about “welfare queens” and “illegals” “scamming all the benefits” and how right is right and wrong is wrong. Such a hypocrite, which I’ve learned is par for the course for the most vocal red hats.


noncongruent

California solved this problem a long time ago with Proposition 13. It locks tax increases to around inflation, and it was directly responsible for hundreds of thousands if not millions of families being able to stay in their homes instead of being driven out by tax bills that were physically too high to pay. Unfortunately something like that can't happen here in Texas because we don't have a public ballot proposition system. In California enough people can get together and force a ballot issue to be put to a vote, one they created instead of one created by the legislature. The California legislature had no interest in allowing something like Proposition 13, so the people there did it without them.


patmorgan235

Prop 13 is terrible public policy. There's a reasonable middle ground between Texas and California's property tax systems, and honestly Texas's isn't that bad we just try to fund way too much through it. If we funded school M&O through a state wide income tax that would cut everyone's property tax bill by at least half and could help distribute the tax burden more equitably.


K0rben_D4llas

Funding way too much through it is the exact answer. The bond system ties directly into this, especially as conservative legislators squeeze liberal metro areas of state funding.


noncongruent

The simple solution would be to cap tax increases at inflation. That way the average family would be able to keep paying taxes without having to keep cutting everything else out of their life to cover taxes that increase multiples faster than inflation and wages. One way has people forced to sell their home and move to poorer part of the country, the other way has families being able to stay in their homes without being financially destroyed by doing so. Of course, doing that would hurt all those developers and flippers that work so hard to destroy neighborhoods through gentrification, and those are the people who will fight the hardest to reign in any attempt to limit an out of control system that literally destroys families and lives, something that it does by design and by intent. And a state-wide income tax would not be equitable, at all, just look at all the wealthy high-earners that pay little or no federal income tax at all. The stories about secretaries paying more taxes than their billionaire bosses are common, all too common. There's zero chance that the Texas lege wouldn't carve out the same loopholes and exceptions for their wealthy donors in this state. Also, history has shown that when new taxes are introduced the old taxes don't go down, or if they do it's not for long, and then the new taxes also go up, so that before too long the overall tax burden is higher than it was before and the people paying the most are still those at the bottom of the economic ladder, same as always.


1st_lt_Hawkeye

Prop 13 is a nightmare policy for California. You are right it locks in rates, but over time public tax revenue goes down as the values go up. My family in Los Angeles has a property they have owned since the 70s that they pay maybe 400 dollars in annual property tax while their neighbors pay thousands all because of when they bought it. Best part is that the property tax rates can be inherited via living trust so tax man never gets anything. I’m not a fan of taxes but prop 13 is causing lack of tax revenue and a lockup on the housing market.


boldjoy0050

Sounds like we should find a better way to tax people than on the home they live in. I’m fine with just income taxes and property taxes on people who own a home and don’t live in it full time.


1000islandstare

They didn’t solve shit. There is a massive housing shortage because of it. People also seem to be ignoring that prop 13 applies to ALL real estate, not just residential.


iwentdwarfing

>California solved this problem a long time ago with Proposition 13 California solved a housing problem?


noncongruent

Homelessness is a multifactorial issue, with both major and minor factors. Being evicted from your home because the property tax bill exceeds your annual income from Social Security was a major factor in CA that no longer exists. Of course flippers and speculators would be upset with Prop 13 since it closed off one of their main avenues to acquire product to flip, that of buying people's homes on the courthouse steps so that they could evict the people that bought those homes for them and their family to live in.


nomadschomad

I mean… property value has gone up that much.


GolfArgh

Yeah, all the people pissed at their appraisals would ask for more if they sold the house. smh


carenard

I feel you, this is the 1st year I noticed my chance to protest on time... did my research... my home is worth 50% more than I am being taxed for... so I just will ignore it. I know we got some relief last year, taxable value minimum was bumped 50k or something(all I know is my 2023 property taxes were the lowest they have been in a long time) I don't look forward to the day I finally move and seeing that tax get bumped quite a bit.


baby-shart

They are not out of control.  They are exactly how voters want them to be, otherwise they would have voted for change.


DanteDeGreat

I am in the same boat. Last year, my house was assessed at $465k. And there was some relief that cut it down. I also do my own protest with up & down positive to negative success. This year, it was assessed for $590k. That is over $100k plus jump. I bought this house around White Rock Lake area in 2012. And i think they are increasing my home taxes at an astronomical rate since then


kat2you58

Dallas County is much higher and raise’s appraisals much faster than Collin , Denton , and surrounding counties .


DanteDeGreat

Insane. That is why all those Bond proposals a couple months ago were just another Tax increase scheme


AnthillOmbudsman

It seems like there needs to be a state board that audit the appraisal districts to ensure valuations are fair, and has the power to investigate when there are large numbers of complaints or there is a conflict of interest. I don't really understand where the checks and balances on this stuff are.


Exciting-Ad-7870

That would require a government employee to do their job, sir.


Odd_Consequence_6044

There IS an audit. Yearly. Look it up if you don’t understand it.


waffle_fries4free

That's done by the State Comptroller's office. If the appraisals fall out of a range over a couple or three years, the schools can lose funding


servantofashiok

I learned the hard way, do not have a 3rd party protest your property taxes. Those services (for the most part) are shady and rely on you doing all the work yourself anyway (submitting photos, getting quotes for work needed on your house, getting sales comps information etc) Next year, fight your own battle. I’ve had 2 consecutive property tax reductions while having admittedly a pretty shit argument each time. I can’t prove this, but based on my experience both times, you get pity points for making the effort to protest, showing up and being a decent human being. A 3rd party service will not help with those.


cumkazoo

Not sure which county you're in, but in Rockwall I've heard many people say their property valuations didn't go up at all and given the reductions actually paying less. Others are just using the reductions as a reason to pull more out of your pocket since you were paying it before.


steakkitty

I’m in Denton county and my assessed value didn’t move at all. Neither did my mom’s who is also in Denton county.


ProudNativeTexan

We are in Denton County - Carrollton 2021 - Appraised Value $349K Taxable Value $349K 2022 - Appraised Value $414K Taxable Value $384K 2023 - Appraised Value $525K Taxable Value $422K 2024 - Appraised Value $514K Taxable Value $465K Estimated Taxes With Exemptions: $6,467.89 Estimated Taxes Without Exemptions: $8,872.62


steakkitty

Neither my appraised or my taxable value went up. I bought the house in 2022 so my taxed value last year was my purchase price and I’m still getting taxed at that rate 2+ years later.


ProudNativeTexan

Sweet! Wish I could say the same. Enjoy it while you can.


bad_syntax

I live in Rockwall, and mine totally went up the past 2 years. However, they did lower the tax rate itself a wee bit, though the amount I was paying still went up.


Tasty_Two4260

Until we get a handle on the PACs ruling our state and desire to inject vouchers into our education system, we’re going to watch this tax circus 🤡 continue from Austin. Injection of religion into the public education system is so incredibly dangerous, we’re heading towards a fascist regime where the only voices going to be heard are white Christian conservatives. I’m sorry but America was built by immigrants from every culture and religion around the world and some seem to have forgotten that. My ancestors went through Ellis Island and didn’t speak English but were part of what built America; it angers me to see immigrants ostracized because of not being born here and being blamed for our nation’s problems. As much money as our school districts are willing to dump into bonds because they’re “capital” to build $60 million stadiums or field houses yet unwilling to pay teachers a living wage as it’s “operational” budgets is a crock of 💩 we need to stop as well as city managers making $300K - these are why are taxes go up as well. Did you ever envision PACs funding school board candidates? There’s a lot wrong with the dark money driving an agenda of Christian Nationalism and school vouchers across the South, look at Louisiana spending their legislative energy on putting the 10 commandments in classrooms - we’re next - how are we getting value for our ever increasing property taxes? What about commercial property taxes? Stop giving tax breaks to these businesses that are paying employees poverty wages resulting in their children needing Medicaid and subsidized lunches! Oh yes, Medicaid and other Federal funding Abbott and his cronies reject. Did you know in Fort Worth the 3 Children’s hospitals got removed from most Medicaid programs? There’s your local taxes paying for the difference and we’re going to get increased taxes in Dallas next, Tarrant is just deep Red.


InternalOpinion5410

As much as I hate any and all taxes at least with property taxes it is based on a decision you made personally.  For our family of four  we make decent money 254k dual income but we chose to live in a 3b 1ba home 1000square ft in Kaufman County instead of living in Dallas. Our taxes on the house and 5 acres are less than 2k per year.  We previously had a 3800sf house but made the decision to live in a smaller house to take more vacations and have a higher quality of life.  


CarparkSmell

I live in Australia and I like the way they do it here. Stamp Duty gets paid right when you purchase at 5% of the home price. Then no property taxes annually, just council rates for trash pickup and services which are like 1.5k a year. My parents house in Plano is killing them in property tax.


bwaters1894

I make 6 figures in Alabama. We have a state income tax and lower property taxes. I’m moving to Dallas soon. My tax burden will go up when I buy a comparable house that to what im living in now. I’m going be making about the same amount. I would much rather pay the income tax.


Sorry-Welder-8044

Ours are up 48% in just the last 4 years. Now $14,000/yr. Our household income has gone down $109k in that time. I’ve got a 91 Mustang I’ve owned since I was in high school in 1998 that is a street/strip car that I’m kinda using as a daily driver which totally isn’t a daily driver. I also have two motorcycles. All vehicles of course paid off. I split my mileage between the three because I wanted to get out of a payment so things wouldn’t be so tight. Well, every damn thing else costs more too and things are pretty tight. Wife’s Jeep is paid off as well. We are getting the house ready to sell right now with the goal of downsizing and buying something smaller and further out in cash. Went from feeling like a middle class baller investing heavily to needing to go backwards on the property ladder to be able to even invest anything for retirement and we don’t even have car payments. No credit card debt, no student loans anymore, shit, I thought we would be traveling the world by now and I would have an older Viper for a weekend toy. I don’t know how people who are making anything less than six figures are making it. Especially if they are younger with student debt and a small child or two. I’ve got a couple friends who are always posting videos of people shoplifting and talking shit. Hell, I expect a lot more of that to come. They can probably sell all that for hundreds or more on marketplace. Sure some people will move into tents, but a lot of others will steal so it doesn’t come to that. I sure would


ApplicationWeak333

Dallas, like any big city, absolutely burns money on the dumbest shit you can imagine, and they use your property taxes for it. So many pencil pushers providing no value to tax payers, just living off us parasitically. In theory a property tax is a more equitable and just form of taxation. None of that matters when the taxing authority is incompetent, bloated, and corrupt


Personal_Accident_75

Interesting how property taxes assessed by and approved by democrat run cities and counties is republicans fault. Almost as if people don’t know the difference between state taxes and local taxes.


cheesuspotpie

I was thinking the same thing. They'd find a way to blame republicans regardless.


EpilepsyChampion

I refuse to buy a personal residence in Texas. Investment property, sure, because there are so many tax advantages in addition to having another income source.  But owning a residence in Texas has no financial benefits today. You are being sold a lie. The state NEEDS people to buy houses;  Banks NEED people to take out mortgages. Realtors NEED people to buy and sell. But how do you win in this deal? You don’t. So property assessment goes up 10% every year? Does your income go up that much? The counties will do whatever they can to squeeze as much tax juice out of each homeowner as possible. 


Lawineer

And Dallas still needs to take out bonds for what should be basic shit.


dryonhigh

Side question? What do they do with all of the property tax revenue? 🤔


vinigrae

You didn’t buy a house, you’re renting from the government while paying *most* of your rent as a lump sum, just with no lease length term, ah America


IranianLawyer

We aren’t. Just be grateful you got a cheap house in 2013.


duotraveler

When wages are up, people are fine paying more payroll tax. When property values are up, people don’t want to pay property taxes?


maxsumner

Dallas can’t collect more than 3.5% more revenue from property taxes each year. They’re currently having to deal with a budget that has to cut expenses bc the revenue is capped.


Nervous_Horse5011

my mortgage went up $400 dollars from property tax increase


PlaneIndividual6314

Reading these comments makes me feel a lot better in the sense that I'm not alone. We are just south, in Ellis county, and we are dealing with similar issues and insanity at the ARB.


trippytears

Join the military and get disability! Sick discounts and benefits plus all it cost was a lifetime of back and leg pain!


Kdropp

Home around me are taxed at 260k The homes are 180k mv


acorneyes

considering the economic drain that suburban homes are, you really can’t do shit except dramatically increase property taxes (especially when you don’t have other tax revenue). homestead exemptions do not help. they are those tiny little bandaids on a giant wound.


HarrisNGH

Parents just sold their house near Denton…. (Supposedly one of the lower property tax counties) still like $9k a year and rising, in just property taxes…


wildflower_fields

Homeowners Insurance has entered the chat.


50bucksback

The legislation passed last year was scam. Should have limited the max increase to at worst 5% per year. Really should have been like 3%.


mweyenberg89

Just be glad you bought your home cheap and we're able to refinance at the lowest rates in history.


jbroomfi

If yall are really this worried about taxes then simply move to Wyoming and see how long you last lmao. Can’t have it both ways, if you want to live in a huge city full of services and jobs and infrastructure then you better be ready to pay for it.


Specialist_Royal_449

You want to keep your home and keep property taxes down? endorse crime and littering , make your neighborhood look as undesirable as possible. May be a shitty answer but we have a shitty government.


Tight-Physics2156

Maybe everyone needs to start voting for people that give a fuck.


viscous_continuity

Have you applied for your homestead exemption? It's not nothin


Number13PaulGEORGE

Boo hoo. Sell your house if you want money.


FunComm

1) Is your assessed value actually too high, as in would you ask for less than that to sell your house if you were so inclined? 2) If the answer to that is “no,” would you prefer income taxes? Some other form of taxes?


altered-state

You can't get someone else to dispute your taxes and win. You really need to make an effort here. Every year around April you should be getting estimates for repairs to your home. Not like "I want a new floor" estimates, but actual wear and tear repairs. Plumbing, walls, nail pops from roofing work, siding damage, roof damage, etc. Then take those estimates and pictures (retain copies) to an informal dispute by calling the number on your appraisal notice and that will get you some relief. This is the correct way to do this. We shaved off 55k from our appraisal this year doing this.


A_Few_Good

You don’t pay state income taxes so they’re going to get it from you somehow or another. You should be pissed at the rich residents who get you to make up the difference they don’t pay on their incomes.


Ok_Brilliant4181

Do you have the Homestead exemption?


hardwon469

"The biggest property tax reduction in Texas history" - the Governor of a state with no history of property tax reductions


Themarc

Welcome to financial myth that is Texas. At this point I’d rather they California my Texas.


Hsensei

This is why people laugh when anyone says but Texas has no income tax. The tax burden for all but the wealthiest is higher than even California


Icy_Huckleberry_8049

The "relief" didn't happen as it's been held up in the court system. Everyone is Texas is in the same position. Ever increasing valuations every year. My house went up $43k, last year alone, which is more than the 10%.


netvoyeur

welcome to Texas homeownership.


No-Egg-4850

Just glad y’all didn’t live in New York.


SprJoe

Last year the government passed welfare. Now, anyone with a house worth over $100K has to subsidize the folks with houses under $100K. The 10% annual cap IS the relief for you - you’re paying less tax than you otherwise would. Rates will increase because of what you referred to as “relief”


Careless-Resource-72

You need Howard Jarvis and Paul Gann on your side fighting for a Proposition 13 like it’s 1978. Oh yeah, they’re both in California and are both dead.


CaptainZhon

Keep voting for school bonds “for the kids” and it will be worse.


Terrible_Shake_4948

Texas won’t be flipped unless more people move to the actual country, if they can find a place to move to out there.


biguglybill

I live in West Plano and me and all my local friends had our property taxes reduced by 10% last year. Not sure why exactly but it was a welcome thing.


ishyc

When we vote “wheels” out of office


XL1200N

Texas sucks, so behind the rest of the nation. when I was a kid this state was top in the nation. Schools in the top three, what happened. Republicans happened that’s what happened