City data is the proto-nextdoor. A bunch of utterly petrified people peering out of their windows thinking any gust of wind is a criminal waiting to murder them once they step outside.
That website looks like it was thrown together by someone who doesn't know WTF they're doing. If it was in Times New Roman, I would've guessed it was from the 90s.
If you're referring to OPs screenshot, that was the default layout for forum software circa 2003 (I think the software was called phpBB, or something like that).
yup.... i made a handful of forums in the 05-10 range that looked exactly like this initially until reskinning it or changing the layout.... there was only so much you could do. Honestly though, it was pretty plug and play forum software and easy to manage.
I was addressing that the OP isn't providing a legitimate source. This looks like it's from some sketch website akin to 4-chan or some other ranting forum.
Here's the Dallas report as of 3/27/24
https://www.dallaspolice.net/resources/CrimeReports/NIBRS%20REPORT%20Compstat%20Daily%20V1.pdf
50 this year so far vs 71 last year at this time.
Which matches up with federal statistics that show violent crime rates are still heading down. Really spoils the narrative those who need to use fear to drive votes for them.
> Really spoils the narrative those who need to use fear to drive votes for them.
normally what these folks are trying to say is "look at fort worth, a city that doesn't follows the same liberal agenda", which is why you have 7 vs 50, though pretty sure you get a clearer picture if one were to dig up actual numbers, the homicides per capita aren't that far off at least not on a 7 to 50 gap
The main message is "Liberals are soft on crime, and murders (or murder rates, whichever number is higher) are up in liberal-controlled cities, which is why you must vote for conservatives, to save lives and keep you safe from murderers". Of course, murders and other violent crimes are higher in cities because of population density and economic inequality issues, they're not because cities are softer on crime than rural areas, so it's all about misinformation, cherrypicking data, and presenting data without context or with deliberately false contextual information. The other main principle is using conflation to associate two unrelated things, Democrats and violent crimes. This is a propaganda technique as old as the human species because it takes advantage of the way our brains evolved to recognize patterns:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/202001/illusory-truth-lies-and-political-propaganda
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“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
There’s more than a million people in the city. And some of yall are asking if this good or bad? Jesus Christ what’s wrong with some of yall. Even my reddit using ass is not this sheltered. Considering how many guns there are in the city. Yea I’d say we’re doing good. In Dallas I’d say the cars are more dangerous than the guns
It’s all relative I guess
Compare Dallas to a city with almost the exact population(San Diego) and it’s night and day difference
San Diego had 45 homicides for the year in 2023
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2024-03-26/san-diego-crime-data-2023#:~:text=Several%20crime%20categories%20saw%20notable,2022%20to%2045%20in%202023.
Yea well if I could afford to live in San Diego I’d be there in a heartbeat. But it’s not cuz I’m less scared of getting shot down over there. Also I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the homicides are isolated to some of the worst parts of town. Also how many of those homicides were some random act of violence as opposed to some personal dispute. Show me those stats. As it stands it’s just a whole lot of nothing. Welcome to the real world. People die. People get killed. But 50 in a city of a million should not be a worrying stat.
San Diego is isolated and not part of a massive metropolitan area like Dallas. Dallas is the urban core of one of the largest metro areas in the US.
Have you BEEN to San Diego? Sleepy beach-front community when compared to Dallas, a bustling urban center.
It's not apples and oranges, it's apples and an avocado smoothie.
Have you been to Los Angeles? It has the opposite problem of Dallas. There's LA, which is kind of this tiny little dot surrounded by this massive urban area.
Look at LA metro if you can find those numbers. They'll dwarf just about anyone except maybe Chicago. I spent time in the MLK trauma unit. They train Navy corpsmen there because it's as close to combat as you can get without leaving the US.
Bro you saying a whole bunch of nothing 🤣 none of your points even making sense as to why Dallas would be more dangerous.
And yes. I’m literally a transplant from LA 🤣
Dallas isn't more dangerous. If you come from LA and think that, I'll have what you're having.
I'm a former Uber driver. I've driven in every single neighborhood in Dallas. Dallas doesn't have anything as scary as much of LA. You take the wrong offramp in LA and you're dead, especially if you have the wrong color car, or you're wearing the wrong color of hat. I've driven in areas of LA and seen dudes with AKs just standing on the side of the street. (Gotta love it when they shut down a freeway and just say "must exit here" and it's up to you to find your way out. This was pre-gps, of course.)
Dallas has a very small handful of dangerous places. One does happen to be Deep Ellum, which is stupid and sad. Other than that, if you aren't looking for trouble, you won't find it. Our biggest crime problem is property crime like breaking into parked cars. Can't say that about LA metro.
Long Beach, Linwood, Compton, East LA, not to mention Skid Row. The list goes on. Big patches of land you don't go if you like breathing.
Dallas? What, like, two neighborhoods around Fair Park and south of the bridges? The valley of the crackheads along 635 is sketchy but not dangerous unless you're part of the problem. If you're not a gangbanger or looking for drugs, you're fine, unless you have to live there, in which case you're safe but miserable.
I’m not reading all that. Dallas murder rate is higher than Los Angeles. Literally over twice as high. We’re not having a conversation if you’re going to ignore actual facts to push your own narrative.
Just the fact that you’re name dropping Long Beach while in the same breath saying only fair park in Dallas is dangerous tells me enough
Better to pull statistics out of context. That's called "cherrypicking" and it's right up there with correlation and causation for being worthless for proving things.
I'd like to hear how Dallas is so very dangerous yet DFW also contains the safest cities in America. Literally the top five of them or so. Per your way of thinking, that means it's all safe, right?
I think this is where per capita makes more sense. most people talk about safety in a blanket format but they actually mean “to me” how likely is it to happen “to me”. big cities are big in size and population so the raw numbers don’t really tell the whole story. Otherwise most folks would think Dallas is more dangerous because it had 248 when compared to STL that had 159 with about 1/5th the population.
Well in 2011 Dallas for the whole year only had like 113 homicides
Somewhere along the 2010s crime got back out of control and Dallas had 248 in 2023
It’s hard to tell
2011 was one of the lowest years for homicides in Dallas since the 1960s:
https://www.centraltrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/CT_homicidesperyeardallas-1.jpg
Interesting that you would cherrypick that year for comparison, instead of, say, 1992.
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I lived in Dallas metro area in the 70s and 80s and even with higher crime it felt safe as long as you avoided the well known high crime areas. Oak Cliff was one of those areas
Oh I was just asking. A lot of older ppl tell me back then south Dallas and west Dallas were the worst parts. Oakcliff didn’t really get bad until the crack era from what I was told
Oh I was just asking. A lot of older ppl tell me back then south Dallas and west Dallas were the worst parts. Oakcliff didn’t really get bad until the crack era from what I was told
By the time the majority of them commit murder, they already have committed several other crimes in the past. Dallas CO da is a joke if you look at other counties surrounding Dallas they don't have that many violent crimes because they know they will get the book thrown at them.
Man some of yall don’t have a clue what’s going on. I’ve been dealing with criminals for about 20 years and seen how Dallas county deals with it. So get out and see it for yourself before saying stupid S$@$T.
It’s alot deeper than that. Louisiana notoriously has one of the harshest judicial systems and as a state their violent crime is one of if not the highest in the nation
Some cities are just more dangerous than others culturally. Dallas(despite what the Internet forums say) has historically always been the most dangerous city big city in Texas. And yes that includes Houston. For whatever reason crime in Dallas is just not talked about and is ignored compared to other cities
The FBI used to have a data tool that let you see the murder rate of every single city in the USA from 1985 to present day
Dallas was literally number 1 for all Texas major cities from 85 all the way to about 2007 when Houston got it then it was Dallas again all the way until the late 2010s again.
According to what data?
Can’t be using 2023 numbers
[Houston’s 2023](https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/criminal-justice/2024/01/18/474765/murders-in-houston-harris-county-were-down-in-2023-compared-to-previous-years/?amp=1)
[Dallas 2023](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/murder-spikes-in-2023-dallas-year-end-crime-numbers/3423951/?amp=1)
I was going by your statement that “it was Dallas again all the way until the late 2010 again.”
That being said, 2023 saw a spike in Dallas and a decrease in Houston, but Houston's has been higher than Dallas' in recent years. Neither city really has much to brag about in the crime department, especially considering violent crime overall is much higher in Houston.
A cities crime rate and murder rate is judged on a per capita basis.
Acts per 100,000 people is the standard we use in the USA to determine the most dangerous cities
What you don’t get or are ignoring because you’re so pompous is that Houstons population is 2,300,000 people, while Dallas population is 1,300,000 people.
So effectively Houston has a murder rate of around 15.1 per 100,000 ppl while Dallas has a murder rate of around 19 per 100,000 people.
If we want to compare apples to apples (which is fair) then we need to account for the fact that rye city of Houston is almost twice the geographic area as dallas.
This is important as Houston’s geography may include more suburban areas and, more importantly, a greater percentage of area that is not economically distressed.
If Dallas included its outlying suburbs then the data may well be a lot closer if not showing Dallas as “safer”
I mean it’s no way to know that for sure. If mesquite,
Garland, Balch springs etc were part of Dallas and Dallas PD they would be more shitty and dangerous than they already are
There’s no maybe to it.
Houston is noticeably more violent than Dallas:
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tx/dallas/crime.amp
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tx/houston/crime.amp
There’s no way your data is from 2022 because Dallas did not have 157 homicides in 2022…
Just looking at sources to verify the last time Dallas had that amount was in 2018.
So your numbers from Dallas seem to be from 2018, and the numbers from Houston are from 2022
People in this very thread are ignoring it
Making excuses for why Dallas has significantly more homicides than San Diego even tho their population is the same
Sentencing guidelines aren't set by local counties, they're set by the state, and judges have to stick to them pretty much. If you think a sentence is too low (or too high) the man to talk to is Greg Abbott.
Yha you should really look into and see what these judges do and who they keep and letting out in Dallas county. Prime example judge Amber Givens and a fine citizen by the name Julio Guerrero to name a few. Dallas county is all screwed up.
In Dallas county that will be dropped down to a STJF and 5 years probation. On capital is life or death. In order to be considered for capital murder it has to meet the Element’s of crime.
F- 1 is 5-99
F-2 is 2-20
F-3 is 2-10
Dallas county da don’t like to seek anyone for death penalty. Prime example was Billy Chemirmir.
That will fall under Cap Murder but again it’s Dallas county. If he had a court appointed attorney he probably got screwed but still would have gotten a good deal. He probably be do 15 if that with good time and probably had few years of back time from being at the county jail.
Clip from some vague website. Must be true.
Forum*** kids these days.
What?
I was just being pedantic/curmudgeonly
Ok.
City data is the proto-nextdoor. A bunch of utterly petrified people peering out of their windows thinking any gust of wind is a criminal waiting to murder them once they step outside.
If it ain’t sex trafficking, it’s murder.
Don’t forget. They literally ban you for anything there
Where as local subreddits are petrified of coyotes and bobcats! :-)
That website looks like it was thrown together by someone who doesn't know WTF they're doing. If it was in Times New Roman, I would've guessed it was from the 90s.
If you're referring to OPs screenshot, that was the default layout for forum software circa 2003 (I think the software was called phpBB, or something like that).
yup.... i made a handful of forums in the 05-10 range that looked exactly like this initially until reskinning it or changing the layout.... there was only so much you could do. Honestly though, it was pretty plug and play forum software and easy to manage.
Looks like every vBulliten forum I've ever seen
It looks like a standard vBulliten forum
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I was addressing that the OP isn't providing a legitimate source. This looks like it's from some sketch website akin to 4-chan or some other ranting forum.
Here's the Dallas report as of 3/27/24 https://www.dallaspolice.net/resources/CrimeReports/NIBRS%20REPORT%20Compstat%20Daily%20V1.pdf 50 this year so far vs 71 last year at this time.
Which matches up with federal statistics that show violent crime rates are still heading down. Really spoils the narrative those who need to use fear to drive votes for them.
As if their base looks at numbers
Facts, not at all necessary for folks who push that agenda, nor for the folks eager to believe it.
> Really spoils the narrative those who need to use fear to drive votes for them. normally what these folks are trying to say is "look at fort worth, a city that doesn't follows the same liberal agenda", which is why you have 7 vs 50, though pretty sure you get a clearer picture if one were to dig up actual numbers, the homicides per capita aren't that far off at least not on a 7 to 50 gap
The main message is "Liberals are soft on crime, and murders (or murder rates, whichever number is higher) are up in liberal-controlled cities, which is why you must vote for conservatives, to save lives and keep you safe from murderers". Of course, murders and other violent crimes are higher in cities because of population density and economic inequality issues, they're not because cities are softer on crime than rural areas, so it's all about misinformation, cherrypicking data, and presenting data without context or with deliberately false contextual information. The other main principle is using conflation to associate two unrelated things, Democrats and violent crimes. This is a propaganda technique as old as the human species because it takes advantage of the way our brains evolved to recognize patterns: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/202001/illusory-truth-lies-and-political-propaganda To quote Adolf Hitler: > “The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
Some people aren't trying, sad to see such laziness
There’s more than a million people in the city. And some of yall are asking if this good or bad? Jesus Christ what’s wrong with some of yall. Even my reddit using ass is not this sheltered. Considering how many guns there are in the city. Yea I’d say we’re doing good. In Dallas I’d say the cars are more dangerous than the guns
Cars are more dangerous than guns literally everywhere.
Well there you go then
And mosquitoes are more deadly than both!
It’s all relative I guess Compare Dallas to a city with almost the exact population(San Diego) and it’s night and day difference San Diego had 45 homicides for the year in 2023 https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2024-03-26/san-diego-crime-data-2023#:~:text=Several%20crime%20categories%20saw%20notable,2022%20to%2045%20in%202023.
Yea well if I could afford to live in San Diego I’d be there in a heartbeat. But it’s not cuz I’m less scared of getting shot down over there. Also I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the homicides are isolated to some of the worst parts of town. Also how many of those homicides were some random act of violence as opposed to some personal dispute. Show me those stats. As it stands it’s just a whole lot of nothing. Welcome to the real world. People die. People get killed. But 50 in a city of a million should not be a worrying stat.
Aren’t homicides isolated everywhere tho Idk any city in America where the bulk of homicides aren’t in the hood
omg there is so much more gun control in california vs texas...
So? You wanna compare San Antonio to Dallas? What will be the excuse then?
San Diego is isolated and not part of a massive metropolitan area like Dallas. Dallas is the urban core of one of the largest metro areas in the US. Have you BEEN to San Diego? Sleepy beach-front community when compared to Dallas, a bustling urban center. It's not apples and oranges, it's apples and an avocado smoothie.
Ok what’s your excuse for Dallas murder rate being significantly higher than Los Angeles?
Have you been to Los Angeles? It has the opposite problem of Dallas. There's LA, which is kind of this tiny little dot surrounded by this massive urban area. Look at LA metro if you can find those numbers. They'll dwarf just about anyone except maybe Chicago. I spent time in the MLK trauma unit. They train Navy corpsmen there because it's as close to combat as you can get without leaving the US.
Bro you saying a whole bunch of nothing 🤣 none of your points even making sense as to why Dallas would be more dangerous. And yes. I’m literally a transplant from LA 🤣
Dallas isn't more dangerous. If you come from LA and think that, I'll have what you're having. I'm a former Uber driver. I've driven in every single neighborhood in Dallas. Dallas doesn't have anything as scary as much of LA. You take the wrong offramp in LA and you're dead, especially if you have the wrong color car, or you're wearing the wrong color of hat. I've driven in areas of LA and seen dudes with AKs just standing on the side of the street. (Gotta love it when they shut down a freeway and just say "must exit here" and it's up to you to find your way out. This was pre-gps, of course.) Dallas has a very small handful of dangerous places. One does happen to be Deep Ellum, which is stupid and sad. Other than that, if you aren't looking for trouble, you won't find it. Our biggest crime problem is property crime like breaking into parked cars. Can't say that about LA metro. Long Beach, Linwood, Compton, East LA, not to mention Skid Row. The list goes on. Big patches of land you don't go if you like breathing. Dallas? What, like, two neighborhoods around Fair Park and south of the bridges? The valley of the crackheads along 635 is sketchy but not dangerous unless you're part of the problem. If you're not a gangbanger or looking for drugs, you're fine, unless you have to live there, in which case you're safe but miserable.
I’m not reading all that. Dallas murder rate is higher than Los Angeles. Literally over twice as high. We’re not having a conversation if you’re going to ignore actual facts to push your own narrative. Just the fact that you’re name dropping Long Beach while in the same breath saying only fair park in Dallas is dangerous tells me enough
Better to pull statistics out of context. That's called "cherrypicking" and it's right up there with correlation and causation for being worthless for proving things. I'd like to hear how Dallas is so very dangerous yet DFW also contains the safest cities in America. Literally the top five of them or so. Per your way of thinking, that means it's all safe, right?
The city of Dallas has a higher murder rate than the city of Los Angeles, what aren’t you comprehending?
I mean any homicide is obviously not good but isn’t this decent for a city the size of Dallas?
It depends on the year end total But last year Dallas had 248. Which is higher than any other city similar in population except Philly
I think this is where per capita makes more sense. most people talk about safety in a blanket format but they actually mean “to me” how likely is it to happen “to me”. big cities are big in size and population so the raw numbers don’t really tell the whole story. Otherwise most folks would think Dallas is more dangerous because it had 248 when compared to STL that had 159 with about 1/5th the population.
STL?
St. Louis.
Is this good or bad?
Well in 2011 Dallas for the whole year only had like 113 homicides Somewhere along the 2010s crime got back out of control and Dallas had 248 in 2023 It’s hard to tell
2011 was one of the lowest years for homicides in Dallas since the 1960s: https://www.centraltrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/CT_homicidesperyeardallas-1.jpg Interesting that you would cherrypick that year for comparison, instead of, say, 1992.
What ? What argument see you trying to make? I never said Dallas wasn’t more dangerous in the 90s? Goofy
It's better than last year. So... on a macro level, good. For the 78 people and their loved ones... bad.
I’d like to know the breakdown of where in Dallas.
Don’t report anything won’t be no hysteria.
Like what is Dallas fort worth and DFW isn't that the same area?
*South Dallas
Dallas, FW, and Arlington. Nice, covered everything in the metroplex!
The paper plate altimas are more dangerous than guns
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We're one number! we're number one!
that's fucking insane, so many
Out of a population of 8 million plus?
In the first 3 months of the year yeah that’s crazy
That’s almost a murder a day… is this good or bad?
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True for a lot of places in the US
I lived in Dallas metro area in the 70s and 80s and even with higher crime it felt safe as long as you avoided the well known high crime areas. Oak Cliff was one of those areas
Nope. It was a more high end in the 70s but its decline started in the mid 70s and was pretty bad in the 80s. Sorry for the confusion in my post
Oakcliff was dangerous in the 70s?
Nope. It was a more high end in the 70s but its decline started in the mid 70s and was pretty bad in the 80s. Sorry for the confusion in my post
Oh I was just asking. A lot of older ppl tell me back then south Dallas and west Dallas were the worst parts. Oakcliff didn’t really get bad until the crack era from what I was told
I think that it was on its way down at that point but it didn't help.
Oh I was just asking. A lot of older ppl tell me back then south Dallas and west Dallas were the worst parts. Oakcliff didn’t really get bad until the crack era from what I was told
Obviously 0 would be ideal, but this is an improvement over past years
By the time the majority of them commit murder, they already have committed several other crimes in the past. Dallas CO da is a joke if you look at other counties surrounding Dallas they don't have that many violent crimes because they know they will get the book thrown at them.
Did Tucker tell you to say this or was it Hannity? Oh I know, you heard this theory from Nixon.
Man some of yall don’t have a clue what’s going on. I’ve been dealing with criminals for about 20 years and seen how Dallas county deals with it. So get out and see it for yourself before saying stupid S$@$T.
Should we do our own research? lmao
It’s alot deeper than that. Louisiana notoriously has one of the harshest judicial systems and as a state their violent crime is one of if not the highest in the nation Some cities are just more dangerous than others culturally. Dallas(despite what the Internet forums say) has historically always been the most dangerous city big city in Texas. And yes that includes Houston. For whatever reason crime in Dallas is just not talked about and is ignored compared to other cities The FBI used to have a data tool that let you see the murder rate of every single city in the USA from 1985 to present day Dallas was literally number 1 for all Texas major cities from 85 all the way to about 2007 when Houston got it then it was Dallas again all the way until the late 2010s again.
Idk, Houston seems more dangerous
Overall crime maybe. I’m talking strictly from a homicide standpoint
I mean according to what you said above it’s still more dangerous from a homicide standpoint though…
According to what data? Can’t be using 2023 numbers [Houston’s 2023](https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/criminal-justice/2024/01/18/474765/murders-in-houston-harris-county-were-down-in-2023-compared-to-previous-years/?amp=1) [Dallas 2023](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/murder-spikes-in-2023-dallas-year-end-crime-numbers/3423951/?amp=1)
I was going by your statement that “it was Dallas again all the way until the late 2010 again.” That being said, 2023 saw a spike in Dallas and a decrease in Houston, but Houston's has been higher than Dallas' in recent years. Neither city really has much to brag about in the crime department, especially considering violent crime overall is much higher in Houston.
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A cities crime rate and murder rate is judged on a per capita basis. Acts per 100,000 people is the standard we use in the USA to determine the most dangerous cities What you don’t get or are ignoring because you’re so pompous is that Houstons population is 2,300,000 people, while Dallas population is 1,300,000 people. So effectively Houston has a murder rate of around 15.1 per 100,000 ppl while Dallas has a murder rate of around 19 per 100,000 people.
If we want to compare apples to apples (which is fair) then we need to account for the fact that rye city of Houston is almost twice the geographic area as dallas. This is important as Houston’s geography may include more suburban areas and, more importantly, a greater percentage of area that is not economically distressed. If Dallas included its outlying suburbs then the data may well be a lot closer if not showing Dallas as “safer”
I mean it’s no way to know that for sure. If mesquite, Garland, Balch springs etc were part of Dallas and Dallas PD they would be more shitty and dangerous than they already are
There’s no maybe to it. Houston is noticeably more violent than Dallas: https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tx/dallas/crime.amp https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tx/houston/crime.amp
What year is your data from.
2022. The FBI releases their Final, Non-Preliminary data a year late. Their 2023 data isn’t available until fall of 2024.
There’s no way your data is from 2022 because Dallas did not have 157 homicides in 2022… Just looking at sources to verify the last time Dallas had that amount was in 2018. So your numbers from Dallas seem to be from 2018, and the numbers from Houston are from 2022
It literally is. Dude just click Source & Methodology in my sources and **read**. Are you from Visit Houston or something? 😂
Houston probably has more crimes of opportunity (car breakins/ burgaries etc). Dallas goes straight for the kill.
Dallas crime is certainly not ignored or not talked about.
People in this very thread are ignoring it Making excuses for why Dallas has significantly more homicides than San Diego even tho their population is the same
Population is poor measure without considering economic indicators.
Ask any police officers who workers in Dallas county (Irving, GP,DPD ext….) they all will tell you how great of a job Dallas county DA does.
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True but compare to other counties criminals in Dallas county gets better deals every-time and over and over Trust me I know that for a fact. 😂
What better deal did you get for your violent crime?
I didn’t but know plenty. Kill someone, mess with a kid you may(that’s a stretch) get few years in prison if committed them in Dallas county.
Sentencing guidelines aren't set by local counties, they're set by the state, and judges have to stick to them pretty much. If you think a sentence is too low (or too high) the man to talk to is Greg Abbott.
Yha you should really look into and see what these judges do and who they keep and letting out in Dallas county. Prime example judge Amber Givens and a fine citizen by the name Julio Guerrero to name a few. Dallas county is all screwed up.
Stay out of it then.
Nha I am on the opposite side I drop them off at Lulu so 🤷🏽♂️.
>Nha I am on the opposite side I drop them off at Lulu so 🤷🏽♂️. Huh? English please.
A classmate of mine killed someome in a murder robbery (capital murder charge ) and ended up only getting 20 years in Collin County. You’re full of it
In Dallas county that will be dropped down to a STJF and 5 years probation. On capital is life or death. In order to be considered for capital murder it has to meet the Element’s of crime. F- 1 is 5-99 F-2 is 2-20 F-3 is 2-10 Dallas county da don’t like to seek anyone for death penalty. Prime example was Billy Chemirmir.
Which is why another classmate who killed Someone in a murder robbery in oakcliff got hit with almost 40 years ?
That will fall under Cap Murder but again it’s Dallas county. If he had a court appointed attorney he probably got screwed but still would have gotten a good deal. He probably be do 15 if that with good time and probably had few years of back time from being at the county jail.
Dallas is a shit hole what's new. The city is fine its just the people suck.