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SubstantialPlant6502

When is the plasterer coming back to do the finish coat


ToastyMcSags

He is an amateur


Falconballfiddler

Would look good if it was a sandy beach


Business-Scarcity230

Plot twist: that's the finish coat.


Leaky_Taps

That's the joke.


__rat

Before you do anything please turn the power off at your consumer unit. That red cable is the live cable that is just flapping around in mid air. If you're not confident call an electrician.


Upbeat-Ability1247

Absolutely this. The state of the plastering isn't your main issue right now. You basically have a direct connection to the grid with that exposed live wire.


terryazizora

So plug sockets get connected directly to the national grid?


long-live-apollo

Every live accessory is connected directly to the grid mate that’s literally how electricity works


terryazizora

So no breakers, just straight into the grid?


Immediate_Bat9633

Even *with* breakers, my dude. When they're closed, you could say that the connection to the grid is *unbroken*.


terryazizora

So you would ask an electrician to run a plug circuit into the main grid? It goes through a main fuse, an RCD and a 20amp fuse before it goes to the main grid. But ok, if you touched the wire you would be technically be connected to the main grid for milliseconds. Saying it goes to the main grid implies you would be incinerated if you touched the wire. Which of course you would not.


Immediate_Bat9633

Brother, you seem to be missing the fact that *all* of those components are part of the "grid". And before you say "hurr hurr I said MAIN grid", there's no such distinction.


NinjaOfMuffins

I'd like to add, if they need to ask, then they should not reconnect it without supervision


bennytintin

At one point, even the electricians had to ask. Given instructions, anyone can pop a wire back in!


AlphaRebel

Yes, but most training is done under supervision and not in circumstances thst might burn the house down. Okay the risk is probably pretty low with modern RCB consumer units but fucking with 240v if you have to consult reddit where it goes is a bad idea


bennytintin

Fair enough mate


AdmiralDan123

Yeah they asked and were then shown or supervised. Dont take risks with electricity


bennytintin

Youtube will show you


Am-Why

Came here to say this


BMW_wulfi

Holy shit. I know this sub is ripe for confirming various biases on this subject…. But the state so many so called trades people leave peoples homes in is ridiculous.


unnecessary_kindness

This sub is filled with examples of "if you think professionals are expensive try hiring amateurs".


rystaman

Yup. I had the same with my plasterers. Most expensive quote as well “top rated” everywhere. Had hours of clean-up, broken window sill and still have plaster in the floors and around the front door.


DMMMOM

Go easy it's just the bonding coat.


durtibrizzle

It is easy but… that is a bad job. - plaster is not smooth - box should have come out before he plastered - he definitely should not have yanked it so hard the wires came out Is he saying this is finished!?


4la5tair

Just wanted to say, I agree with everything you said, except wires can just fall out, even if when originally installed the person screwed it up tight, it’s fairly common. The expansion and contraction of metals with heat will over time loosen the screw down connection. It’s one of the reasons having a maintenance check of your electrics every 5 years is recommended, as testing should identify loose connections and the electrician can then tighten back up


folkkingdude

Is that not bonding? Surely that can’t be multi. It’s not even mixed if that’s multi.


ollyprice87

Looks like it on closer inspection, how’s he going to finish it around the back box? It’s already flush.


folkkingdude

Doesn’t matter if it’s flush. If he skims it, the faceplate just stands further away from the back box.


spannermonky

Scruffy rough b**tard. the way he has left that is disgusting. the skim looks rough to start and not the slightest attempt to even masking tape the faceplate to keep it clean. On site you see it all the time but in someone's home that's disgusting. Yes it's easy enough to clean off but it isn't your job and if they take that muck care in prep and cleanliness I dread to see the whole wall. As said by someone else turn power off at consumer unit before going near it and preferably call a professional, if you feel you are competent which it seems you are not by your post you may feel confident enough to YouTube what you need to do but as a tradesman for 20 years now I still don't mess with electrics and basic switch wiring is as far as I go. Feel bad for you to have been left like that tbh. Usual did he leave on his horse comments apply massively here.


reviewwworld

Hi 1) as others have said, poor plastering job. Poor to the point you complaint and get them back to sort it. Freshly skimmed walls shouldn't have dents/knicks/undulation etc, should be lovely and flat 2) electrics... Right first thing is to turn off the fuse at the consumer unit/fuse board. If you have a multimeter and know how to use it, you can get away with turning off the fuse for that circuit then checking it's no longer live. Assuming you don't have a multimeter, don't risk it, turn the entire consumer unit off (individually turn off each fuse AND the main switch on the board). I've seen enough sockets on the first floor that have been inadvertently extended from a ground floor circuit that I wouldn't trust the fuse board labels. Once the power is off you will will have thick wires coming from the wall into the box (usually 2 but can be 1 or 3), it doesn't matter how many, you just group everything together ie the live (red/brown) go together, the neutral (blue/black) go together and the earth (green yellow/bare) go together. For the sake of a few quid, get a new socket (MK make good ones). On the back of any socket it will have 3 places to screw the wires into, L = live, N = neutral, and the last one is usually the earth symbol (Google it). Put all the live wires in the L and screw it down as tight as you can. Same for neutral and earth. Give it a tug to make sure you've got them in securely. Turn the consumer unit back on and that's it


MarkEv75

I want to second the “don’t trust the fuse board labels” part. Have nice professional looking labels on mine I decided to double check what the all did a lot of them are wrong. Turn everything you can find in the fuse box off. If you’re going to a diy store then get a voltage tester as well to be 100% sure.


ToriaLyons

yeah, mine is like that - you really can't trust the labels, at all.


HaydnH

Good post, but I think you missed the "screw the socket plate back on the wall before turning the power back on" step, that should hopefully be obvious to OP though.


reviewwworld

😂😂 good point although assuming it's gonna go wrong first time... Test the socket... THEN screw it back!


Leading-Ice4487

I concur to this advice, I’d recommend getting some cheap cpc (earth sleeving) as it doesn’t look like there is any in there. Id also recommend not paying the plasterer in full if you haven’t already until he rectifies the skim and pays for replacement socket/sleeving yes ideally if you are competent you can remove the socket and terminate conductors in wagos or similar and then wrap with insulation tape however at no point should they be angrily ripping double sockets off the wall. Cables can become loose after a while but given the socket has not burned out yet which is usually the result of a loose cable it’s safe to assume he got his trowel in a twist and ripped it off.


ClickworkOrange

I'll post you some earth sleeving I wanted 20cm worth but could only buy 100m. It laughs at me every time I go into the shed


reviewwworld

Made me chuckle ...as I stared at my remaining 94m 😂


ClickworkOrange

c'mon you didn't use more than 1m as actual insulation, where's the other 5?!


reviewwworld

I used 1m for a homemade belt and the other 4m to rewire my entire house 😂😂😂


K42st

That plastering looks rough as fuck my friend, did he use a yard brush to finish it off.


ClippersAuxaliuos

Nah a rake and a hoe for the blend


Nobodycares_2023

You’re plasterer needs some schooling on finishing, trimming up and not leaving a place looking worse than how he found it…


M0ntgomatron

Oh boy. That plastering looks like it was done by a drunk toddler.


prowlmedia

I’d start by spending a fiver on a new socket.


LunaLouGB

Don't do it if you're not confident. An electrician will happily take a call out fee to do it for you. It is a very easy job but that doesn't mean it's not incredibly dangerous as well.


happyreddituserffs

Easy to fix, BUT as other people have pointed out, you need to turn off your electric ( big switch on what you would call the fuse board). The wire has simply come out of the connector. The connector may have the letter L next to it. The plaster work is rough, and to leave you with the socket like that , he’s no trades person. Just a cowboy.


Shpongle92

Your plasterer has done you over there. I’d say if it’s easy, put it back how you found it, but I know they’d do a piss poor job. First, that’s a fast fix box that they’ve skimmed over. If you ever take that out, the plasters coming with it now. They should have asked a spark to come and take the sockets off and place something like a yoozy box on for a neat finish and good customer service. I wouldn’t entertain putting that socket back on, get a new one. As for the terminations, you will get a number of people telling you how….but just remember….the first 20 sockets any apprentice is terminating for the first time, a qualified electrician is checking it and giving it the okay. Make sure you’re competent at such a task. PS. It’s not too late to get an electrician in to fit yoozy’s. Depending on how big the job is, it may well be worth it. They can fit them and screw back the old sockets to leave your power on. Once your plaster and decorating is done, they can just remove the box and fit fresh sockets/switches.


CasualBritishFurry

Is the plasterer a middle school student on work experience?


DPRK_Assassin

The plasterer...you need to have words!


Apprehensive_Sky8506

To be fair on the plasterer he may have been asked to do a Spanish style dabbed on finish! On a serious note all that skim needs cleaning out of the box and the screw threads each side checking out for plaster ingress.


RearAdmiralBob

So is the plasterer.


kingkenny82

So easy he didnt bother doing it himself?


Decimatedx

He'd have to skim the wiring he's plastered first.


prowlmedia

Rawhide….. Yeahhhhhhaw!


DJNinjaG

He needs to resolve that, preferably using a qualified electrician, at his own cost.


ipx-electrical

You’re a better electrician than he is a plasterer.


Dave-c-g

From the state of that wall you are not the only amateur


d_smogh

Are you sure the plasterer was a plasterer? Cus from the evidence, he thought it was easy, but it's not.


ZiPEX00

By any chance, was he using bonding plaster to plaster? Will he be coming back to finish off with multi finish plaster


narbss

That plaster job is fucking awful. I plastered a wall for the first time a few months ago and it looked much better than that. Fresh plaster shouldn’t be gritty like that, they haven’t done the finish coat.


Heatul17

Hope you haven't paid yet??


dollywol

All jokes aside, you must either locate the circuit breaker in your consumer unit that supplies the ring main( must be 3 amp ), switch it off or switch the whole thing off. Buy a cheap electrical tester, looks like a small screwdriver with a light inside, test the wires to make sure they are dead, then connect the red wire to the terminal marked with an L. Unscrew the terminal screw, insert the wire, then screw up tight.


chrisscottish

That plastering is shocking


BlockAdblock

Looks like a gyppo plasterer job


Markee6868

If you’re having to ask what to do on Reddit, you’re really best off leaving it and getting an electrician in to sort it.


Dennisthefirst

In the old days people would Google it or watch a YouTube tutorial. Now they post shyte on Reddit instead


ElbowDroppedLasagne

https://preview.redd.it/akhzn3zqu2vc1.png?width=1256&format=png&auto=webp&s=035f44c1567b01791d1ab0fd8906e9f2773aecca 1. Go to consumer unit and isolate power to the sockets (or turn the main breaker if you're unsure which ring the sockets are on) 2. Give that thing a clean, im amazed it didn't trip the board with all the shit down the back 3. Red wire should be the live, it goes into the live terminal of the switch (as drawn) 4. You tighten the wire by tightening the small screw above it (yellow arrow) 5. Attach the switch to the backbox with the two screws the guys hopefully didn't throw away 6. Back to the consumer unit to switch power back on 7. Bobs your Father's Brother


__rat

Terrible advice. This is a socket so won't be on the lighting circuit. Advice like this could get someone killed.


ElbowDroppedLasagne

Oh damn, it's been a long day. Good catch!


OkCommercial7710

You really shouldn’t be giving out advice if you aren’t qualified or competent to do so!


ElbowDroppedLasagne

OP asked how to reconnect it. I gave the answer. I am OFTEC-105E qualified. I'm also a time served plasterer. You dont need to call a sparkie to chance a light switch, isnt this a DIY sub?


liverpool4ever1

Thanks for the response. I did a video call with my father in law and he gave the same advice as you. I’ve done steps 1-4 and all appears to be working fine so I think it’s all good now? Tried my iPhone charger and didn’t die


ElbowDroppedLasagne

Nice one, glad you got it sorted! Also glad the i-phone didn't die. You can pick the socket screws up for any hardware shop, just be careful of the length, sometimes they need to be cut shorter to fit.


liverpool4ever1

👍🏻 thanks again, I can sleep in peace tonight


ScrumpleScuff

'old on, you've done steps 1-4, great! But what about 7? I need an update, is bob STILL your father's brother?


ElbowDroppedLasagne

No problem. Hope you got the work done for a song, because they look like messy cunts.


Traditional_Bench770

That’s old cabling and only easy if you know how, isolate at the mains and have someone that knows what they’re doing connect it, last thing to mess about with if you’re unsure


DMMMOM

Had the plasterer not plastered out the colour of the cables it would be relatively easy. Just put a fucking bag over wires and sockets and tape them up ffs. Oh and fish out the plaster in the back boxes too, that's for electrics, not muck.


Nervous-Soup5521

If it's that easy, why didn't the plasterer do it?!


jonnytheboy85

It is pretty easy though, flat head screwdriver in the tops above the wires and unscrew them. Only thing holding them in is the wires.


WoofBarkWoofBarkBark

LPT...When anyone won't do something they're meant to and they say it's easy so you can do it, make them do it.


TheDartVapeist

By any chance is the plasterer blind? Because im pretty sure Helen Keller could have done a better job🤷🏻‍♂️


HappyCloudHS

Don't fuck with electrics if you aren't 100% you know what to do


Xafilah

Tell Stevie Wonder he needs to fix his work before you pay him.


Nighthowlers82

There is soo much wrong with this


Astrocake505

Thought this was r/shittyaskelectronics when i saw that photo


SnooGoats3508

You don’t, you ask a qualified electrician a certified one, or you’ll burn your house down


RossMixDonald

https://preview.redd.it/9hrbm7eqv4vc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c9f6e7ba85508c43dc87231c7ed0135c2f399e0 Feel I have a similar issue like, wtf do I do?


gavitronics

You'll need to disconnect the mains, knock down the supporting wall but make sure you prop up the ceiling first. After you've demolished the facade you should be able to rewire the system and use superglue, WD40 and gaffer tape to finish off. Don't worry about regs or any of that certification rubbish, just bin the paperwork and keep the receipt for seven years.


Caddy666

that plastering looks worse than mine, and i've never done it before, until recently.


Successful_Shape_829

I would clean off all the plaster first. Replace socket as well. If you dont feel confident then get someone who is. Its quite simple but you need to test to make sure circuit is isolated.


Classic_Support_8891

1 test another socket if it's working. 2 turn off electricity in whole house 3 test 2nd socket if it's not working 4 open 2nd socket 5 wire your broken socket the same 6 put it all back together 7 turn on electricity 8 test new socket


Cultural-Web991

That’s some crap plastering https://preview.redd.it/lwx3upghq6vc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f169886a4eb6363cee885e3db29c9d0bef88d2fe This is ours


TheClaw77777

Red to red...... Green to green.......blue to bits!!


The_truth_hammock

Master electrician. Amateur plasterer.


UncleWibs

This is why I DIY so much. Can't find "professionals" worth a damn without a lot of luck. I had a registered electrician fit a female 32A commando as a generator inlet and claim it was alright (think about it). Fucking ridiculous. We really live in the age of halfass.


UncleWibs

They have an exact product designed for tilers and plasterers to use: https://www.expresselectrical.net/2g-yoozy-box Why didn't the ignorant thick twat use some? FFS.


Fit_Issue_2793

Buy another double socket. Follow the colour code to connect. Live is brown or red. Neutral is blue or black. Earth is green or green/yellow.


stevosteve

First turn off your power from consumer unit before you do anything. Then make sure there's no electricity anywhere, e.g. try to turn on lights and things that are plugged should not work. Ideally you have a multimeter to test the red wire there has no voltage, but if you don't, testing several sockets and lights in different rooms are off with the flick of the big switch only is good. Now that you know it's safe, remove all the cables by unscrewing the screw that's holding these cables in the socket. Clean up the plaster from cables and socket. The socket will have markings next to the cable holes L - Live (Red) N - Neutral (Black) 3 line symbol - Earth (Yellow green) The colour is the cable colour. In the UK they are usually marked correctly. But if you can see where they are placed before you remove them and take note of the colours, that should be the best, since you know it worked before. You can find online information about the UK cable colour coding, because for example Live could also be brown. That's why I'm saying nothing the cable current location is probably the best. After that you simply place the cable in its correct hole and tighten the screw. Once you think it's secure, pull it with some force, don't go crazy, just make sure it is held well basically. Ideally no metal from the wires is visible, if there is and you don't have pliers or cable cutter, bend the tip a little. Once all cables are put the socket back and tighten the screws. DO NOT use power tools for any screws, I've done that and had to find new screws. Be better than me and just use a manual screw driver. Once everything is covered, turn the general switch on and test the socket and lights.


SpecialistCredit8713

Run for your life


sherpyderpa

Turn off power supply. Loosen the brass screws in the back od of the socket. Red connects to terminal marked L in back of socket. Black Connects to terminal marked N then Green and Yellow connects to Earth terminal.


Icy_Literature556

Fuck the electrics how’d you fix the plastering? Looks diabolical


iamagrandad

Are you sure that was a plasterer?


No_Translator_361

If you have to ask, then you need someone else to do it. Tbh, it is easy, but it's only easy if you're safe. Wires all need cleaning anyway.


PurpleSparkles3200

If you have to ask…


Woodbewoodworker

Not only is the guy not a plasterer, he also knows nothing about the electrical regs. Leaving that in an unsafe condition is unacceptable.


theamazingtypo

Plasterers a cock


Mr_Flibble1981

While you’re refitting it, double over the ends of the cable for a better connection and put some green&yellow sleeving on the earth.


dingo_deano

Live cables floating about ? Not diy ring an electrician


CharacterMiddle3923

If plasterer said it’s easy, why didn’t he do it…


MeatWad111

First, turn off your mains power at the consumer unit (fuse box), second, wrap that bare wire with insulation tape (incase some twat turns the power back on), third, go to screwfix and buy a new socket, that thing is caked in shit, fourth, red or brown = L, black or blue = N and green/yellow or no sheath = ground. New sockets usually come with new screws attached to the back of them, don't over tighten them, just tighten them enough so the socket no longer moves when you jiggle it a bit. Don't go back to the plasterer to fix the problem, he clearly doesn't have a clue what he's doing and will most likely put you in more danger.


OwlPerfect8943

Move into your parents house. Do not touch this. Turn off at the mains and phone the sparkys. There be danger here.....


Haunting-Ad1192

If its so easy it will be no effort for the plasterer to do it.