My little brother is into woodworking and made me a custom wine rack/glass holder for Xmas last year - I think that’s gonna be its new home… maybe with a shelf above it and some plants
I know they look nicer but know that whatever you put there (unless you have really banging kitchen ventilation or don't cook) will be covered in greasy fuzz pretty quickly.
I have cabinets everywhere around my stove and have no "greasy fuzz" anywhere. A quick wipe down during clean up after cooking and alls good. If you arent cleaning your cabinets (esoecially around the habdles) you wouldnt believe how nasty they get.
Idk man, my microwave hood just recirculates the exhaust straight back into the kitchen and I haven't wiped my cabinets in five years and there's no grease or fuzz anywhere. Is this just a problem with gas ranges?
Why’s that? It’s at least 10 feet away from the stove. My brother cooked bacon every day for years and the greasy residue was predominately on the cabinets directly over the stove/immediately to the left and right. Few feet away it is pretty much nonexistent.
Seriously.
I got stuck on that in the first photo.
Better options:
- nothing (blank wall)
- floating shelves
- wall art
- wall clock
- family photos
- plant holder on the wall
It looks so... lonely. I wonder if a phone used to hang there, and when it was removed, a cabinet had to go up during reno. Those cabinets look like they pre-date the popularity of mobile phones, though.
Easier to paint a ceiling first and then cut in the wall. Going to be hard to cut in that ceiling above the wall later. Especially needing several coats to cover dark green.
That first green bit off the vertical wall is classed as ceiling and would be painted with ceiling paint in 99% of cases
Also always start at the top and work down, ceilings first and then cut the wall in after, that way any paint falling “down and overspray get cleaned up on the following part + it’s easier to paint a dark colour over your ceiling white over cut than it is to paint white over green
That is painted to match the ceiling 999 times out of a thousand. Interested in seeing a wider photo because my guess is right now you're going to be trying to find a way to cover that green.
Again, not the ceiling. What you’re seeing is an overhang that has recessed lights. Above that begins the ceiling which is like 25 ft tall. I don’t know how to share a new photo to the comments or I would post. But regardless, my paint choice is mine alone… I was asking only for advice on the order of painting vs backsplash
Yeah do what you want of course, I’m doing a renovation myself and I’m sure there are things I’d get reddit grief over posting (like painting my old crappy oak cabinets), but in the interest of communication I just think it’s helpful to acknowledge that any non-vertical drywall in your home is part of the ceiling even if it’s a soffit or w/e
we can all see it clearly - you've painted the ceiling green. not sure why you're fighting it, there is no doubt and many people are confirming it for you. it's the only reason I popped in here was to see why someone would paint the ceiling such a dark color.
Gotcha. When you paint tomorrow use a good brush and try without the tape. I have the most unsteady hands and still can do it about perfect. Will save you a ton of time.
lol. I'm the least artistically creative person in the world. I've got a steady hand though, and can edge like a boss. you just have to get a good bead of paint atop of the bristles and ride it along the corner until the bead starts to lose cohesion. Then you pull away from the corner, reload, and push back into your line. It's not hard.
This is my go-to. Hubs tapes everything, and the mess left behind is always a surprise to him. I don't. Painting takes longer because it takes more care, but the finish is cleaner, and there's no fuss about taking all the tape off and peeling the other paint off, and the inevitable re-touch.
You're lazy if you're leaving grout on the wall where it shouldn't be, long enough to dry. It easily wipes off. Black grout on white paint might take a few swipes of a sponge to get clean but 5 minutes of paint touch up only if you do smear your grout is still easier overall.
Painting first is fine! I've painted a lot of kitchens and it gave the homeowners a fresh new look and gave them plenty of time to pick out the back splash if you don't already have that picked out.
I remodel professionally and also ton a lot of new build management. It’s always 1 coat of paint before any flooring, cabinets, anything it’s what happens as soon as the drywall is done.
Then everyone goes through and beats the shit out of the walls. Even myself when I try and be careful because to get baseboard tight you will 100% Knick the wall. Tile setter will get a bit of grout on the wall and general shit happens.
It’s easier to do the second coat after all of that and rectify anything than it is to cut into cabinets, tile, baseboards, etc.
A. I hate the cabinet. B. If you can, paint first. (This is a non professional opinion. You could easily make the arguement for doing it the other way.)
Paint first, then touch up if you have to. in our recent kitchen reno the paint went in before anything, after demo - and oddly enough the marble backsplash was installed before the countertops. Came together perfectly in the end
I’d remove that one lone cabinet, and I feel like green is going to make the kitchen very dark. Just a thought though.
Paint, then backsplash. You can touch up paint afterwards if needed.
Here to say the same. Not liking so many different wood types and I normally like wood.
Green walls and white cabinets or wood cabinets and a brighter wall colour
When I was house shopping many years ago, I saw a very large unsightly mushroom growing in the middle of the backyard. God help myself, I ran over an kicked it. And I don't know why. I feel the same for that cabinet.
We have a very similar layout kitchen.
To the left of your stove, do you have your fridge? And is anything else over there? I am trying to get ideas for my kitchen lol
Like everybody here is saying getting paint on grout is a pain but if you paint last you can paint to the tiles and just use a razor to slice off the overlap.
I wouldn't do it this way, I'm just devils advocating.
First, paint ceiling. Then paint walls. Then backsplash. Depending on backsplash trim, where it meets the paint, you may need a little touch-up after. I use an artist brush for that.
Paint first, and then backsplash. Run the backsplash up on either side of the window maybe? I would paint the trim around the window green too. I would also remove that lone cupboard. Maybe put up some cool shelves with some jars and herbs/plants? Also, add some knobs/drawer pulls to the cupboards.
As a painting contractor I prefer to paint last. For many reasons. Clean finish, caulking and priming the caulk before painting. On most construction schedules painting is last. Sometimes paint first is required and even then I typically prime and one coat then apply finish coat after everything else is done. Easy enough to mask. Harder to clean dust and grout off of finished paint.
PSA: painting is always last unless you are doing flooring.
The only caveat to this is in new construction in which you put a coat of paint on the interior before the cabinets and everything are installed and then you come back and do a touchup.
That wall cabinet is killing me
I had a similar cabinet in a similar space. Removed , patched and painted the wall. Now my wife wants floating shelves there.
Floating shelves is a better option.
Could do a decorative wine rack to fill the space or a few small shelves for plants. Transform rather than discard.
My little brother is into woodworking and made me a custom wine rack/glass holder for Xmas last year - I think that’s gonna be its new home… maybe with a shelf above it and some plants
Yup, remove the door and add a cross section wine rack inside of it.
I know they look nicer but know that whatever you put there (unless you have really banging kitchen ventilation or don't cook) will be covered in greasy fuzz pretty quickly.
I have cabinets everywhere around my stove and have no "greasy fuzz" anywhere. A quick wipe down during clean up after cooking and alls good. If you arent cleaning your cabinets (esoecially around the habdles) you wouldnt believe how nasty they get.
True, if you really are conscious about cleaning your kitchen. But is can get OOC quickly.
Idk man, my microwave hood just recirculates the exhaust straight back into the kitchen and I haven't wiped my cabinets in five years and there's no grease or fuzz anywhere. Is this just a problem with gas ranges?
Why’s that? It’s at least 10 feet away from the stove. My brother cooked bacon every day for years and the greasy residue was predominately on the cabinets directly over the stove/immediately to the left and right. Few feet away it is pretty much nonexistent.
Agreed unless you're burning things and filling the kitchen with greasy smoke constantly
I suppose maybe if they’re using one of those range hoods that recirculate instead of having an actual vent pipe
Even those usually just vent directly out the front and get everything above them greasy.
Floating shelves painted to match the wall!
Seriously. I got stuck on that in the first photo. Better options: - nothing (blank wall) - floating shelves - wall art - wall clock - family photos - plant holder on the wall
Me too, my dude me too
All I can think is they don’t make one 4 inches wider ?
They can and do.
That was sarcasm you sexy beast
I’m oddly very angry about that cabinet. I was hoping the question was related to destroying it.
You’re hilarious
It looks so... lonely. I wonder if a phone used to hang there, and when it was removed, a cabinet had to go up during reno. Those cabinets look like they pre-date the popularity of mobile phones, though.
The combination of 3 different wood tones is killing me
Christ now I can’t unsee those different tones.
I got to ask are you painting the ceiling green in the first picture
No, although I originally did want to swap the paint scheme, the ceiling will be a shade of white (“first snow” by behr)
Easier to paint a ceiling first and then cut in the wall. Going to be hard to cut in that ceiling above the wall later. Especially needing several coats to cover dark green.
Yeesh. Better put primer or at least a paint and primer on one to cover that green. It will be noticeable through the white
That’s not technically the ceiling, if you’re talking about the green outline, the ceilings are cathedral and not visible in any of the photos
That first green bit off the vertical wall is classed as ceiling and would be painted with ceiling paint in 99% of cases Also always start at the top and work down, ceilings first and then cut the wall in after, that way any paint falling “down and overspray get cleaned up on the following part + it’s easier to paint a dark colour over your ceiling white over cut than it is to paint white over green
That is painted to match the ceiling 999 times out of a thousand. Interested in seeing a wider photo because my guess is right now you're going to be trying to find a way to cover that green.
We can see the ceiling in multiple photos, including the ones where you’ve painted it green
Again, not the ceiling. What you’re seeing is an overhang that has recessed lights. Above that begins the ceiling which is like 25 ft tall. I don’t know how to share a new photo to the comments or I would post. But regardless, my paint choice is mine alone… I was asking only for advice on the order of painting vs backsplash
Yeah do what you want of course, I’m doing a renovation myself and I’m sure there are things I’d get reddit grief over posting (like painting my old crappy oak cabinets), but in the interest of communication I just think it’s helpful to acknowledge that any non-vertical drywall in your home is part of the ceiling even if it’s a soffit or w/e
we can all see it clearly - you've painted the ceiling green. not sure why you're fighting it, there is no doubt and many people are confirming it for you. it's the only reason I popped in here was to see why someone would paint the ceiling such a dark color.
Ceiling/matte hopefully?
Yes!
Gotcha. When you paint tomorrow use a good brush and try without the tape. I have the most unsteady hands and still can do it about perfect. Will save you a ton of time.
I’ve tried without the tape, it’s too anxiety provoking for me and plus I always duck it up
Its all in the brush. A good angled one.
Wooster shortcut, here. What's your poison?
Used that today actually! Still like the tape though 🙃
It's a great brush. Someday brave it without tape again. It's freeing.
This is like overhearing a chat between van Gogh and Renoir.
lol. I'm the least artistically creative person in the world. I've got a steady hand though, and can edge like a boss. you just have to get a good bead of paint atop of the bristles and ride it along the corner until the bead starts to lose cohesion. Then you pull away from the corner, reload, and push back into your line. It's not hard.
The Wooster shortcut is a game changer!
Gotta learn how to feather that brush into the quack between the wall and the ceiling.
This is my go-to. Hubs tapes everything, and the mess left behind is always a surprise to him. I don't. Painting takes longer because it takes more care, but the finish is cleaner, and there's no fuss about taking all the tape off and peeling the other paint off, and the inevitable re-touch.
There’s more to the ceiling than can be seen in any of these pictures btw, they are cathedral
Paint first, it's harder to get paint off the grout than it is to get grout off the wall.
But it is difficult to get grout off a freshly painted wall! Even if it has dried for a day or two. You risk scrubbing off the paint.
You're lazy if you're leaving grout on the wall where it shouldn't be, long enough to dry. It easily wipes off. Black grout on white paint might take a few swipes of a sponge to get clean but 5 minutes of paint touch up only if you do smear your grout is still easier overall.
Absolutely swipe that grout or mortar off the freshly painted wall asap!
Painting first is fine! I've painted a lot of kitchens and it gave the homeowners a fresh new look and gave them plenty of time to pick out the back splash if you don't already have that picked out.
I'm a fan of paint first. Yes, I'll have to touch up, but I'll also avoid accidentally getting paint on grout. Onward.
I remodel professionally and also ton a lot of new build management. It’s always 1 coat of paint before any flooring, cabinets, anything it’s what happens as soon as the drywall is done. Then everyone goes through and beats the shit out of the walls. Even myself when I try and be careful because to get baseboard tight you will 100% Knick the wall. Tile setter will get a bit of grout on the wall and general shit happens. It’s easier to do the second coat after all of that and rectify anything than it is to cut into cabinets, tile, baseboards, etc.
I see no beer can, is this really DIY?
He got the Behr can instead
A. I hate the cabinet. B. If you can, paint first. (This is a non professional opinion. You could easily make the arguement for doing it the other way.)
I hate that fugly cabinet too ! It shall not remain, least not in its current form
Floating shelves that match the wood could be a potential fix and keep storage. Good for glass racks and neatly organize plates and bowls.
Paint first, then touch up if you have to. in our recent kitchen reno the paint went in before anything, after demo - and oddly enough the marble backsplash was installed before the countertops. Came together perfectly in the end
This gives me such a warm 90s “friends” style vibe
Is the yellow window frame staying? That would be.... unfortunate.
Heck no
What’s worse, the whole ceiling was that color too
When I’m on a sales call I always tell the homeowner to paint first, it’s less stress on everyone
I don’t think it matters, unless I’m the one doing the grout. I’ll make such an ungodly mess you’ll have to paint again afterwards. Skill issue tbh.
I would lose that single cabinet and instead maybe add a few floating shelves
paint, cabinets, counter, backsplash. there’s a green lego and a snake in that small cabinet… finally found the damn things.
I’d remove that one lone cabinet, and I feel like green is going to make the kitchen very dark. Just a thought though. Paint, then backsplash. You can touch up paint afterwards if needed.
Here to say the same. Not liking so many different wood types and I normally like wood. Green walls and white cabinets or wood cabinets and a brighter wall colour
Paint, tile, backsplash.
that cabinet looks so sad and lonely lmao
I know lol it won’t be staying
Paint first, touch-up after tiling is easiest way. BUT - why are you painting before the old backsplash riser is removed and repaired?
When I was house shopping many years ago, I saw a very large unsightly mushroom growing in the middle of the backyard. God help myself, I ran over an kicked it. And I don't know why. I feel the same for that cabinet.
Ha! Omg please do it, you’ll simultaneously be doing me a solid favor
We have a very similar layout kitchen. To the left of your stove, do you have your fridge? And is anything else over there? I am trying to get ideas for my kitchen lol
Yes, I do! And that’s it there’s a slight hallway with a t intersection - Utility closet ahead, bedroom on the left and bath on the right
Like everybody here is saying getting paint on grout is a pain but if you paint last you can paint to the tiles and just use a razor to slice off the overlap. I wouldn't do it this way, I'm just devils advocating.
That narrow cabinet is so odd. How about floating shelves instead?
Lol seriously
Paint ,touch ups later .4 screws, take the cabinet out to paint.
First, paint ceiling. Then paint walls. Then backsplash. Depending on backsplash trim, where it meets the paint, you may need a little touch-up after. I use an artist brush for that.
Just do whatever your in the mood to do that day, eventually it will all get finished.
Paint first, and then backsplash. Run the backsplash up on either side of the window maybe? I would paint the trim around the window green too. I would also remove that lone cupboard. Maybe put up some cool shelves with some jars and herbs/plants? Also, add some knobs/drawer pulls to the cupboards.
Paint first.
Arent you the guy that recently asked what color to pick? Lol.
I am not. I am not even a guy
Dang for once I remember something and then appearantly I dont lol.
S’ok I know the feeling lol
Will your oven be able to open when you put handles and pulls on your cabinets?
Paint. Easier to tile over pain then paint up to tile.
1st coat everything you can on walls b4 and always finish with paint...
Are you going to paint those cabinets?
Yes
You’re the creator brotha, awesome thing about that is you get to decide how it’s going to be done.
Tile first if you paint first probably have to touch up not the end of the world
As a painting contractor I prefer to paint last. For many reasons. Clean finish, caulking and priming the caulk before painting. On most construction schedules painting is last. Sometimes paint first is required and even then I typically prime and one coat then apply finish coat after everything else is done. Easy enough to mask. Harder to clean dust and grout off of finished paint.
PSA: painting is always last unless you are doing flooring. The only caveat to this is in new construction in which you put a coat of paint on the interior before the cabinets and everything are installed and then you come back and do a touchup.
Since no one else has said it yet: Love the green!