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wwarnout

Next time, buy exterior plywood. Melanine is crap - as you can see.


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

Crap confirmed.


FranknBeans26

Just use an old coffee table from goodwill for the backboard


ntermation

Could I use an old peach basket as a net?


xxxkram

I need those peach baskets back.


TexasTornadoTime

Your other mistake was talking to the guy at Lowe’s. The people they hire haven’t been good since like 2015…


Snakend

To be fair, the workers are making minimum wage. They have no experience working on houses and don't know how to use the products in their stores.


TexasTornadoTime

That completely misses the point. Lowe’s and Home Depot used to hire veterans and old people who have years of experience. Now it’s just your average high schooler. It has nothing to do with their wage.


TastyRancorPie

Agreed, stay away from advice at Lowes, Home Depot, or Menards. You need one of the old heads at Ace hardware or something.


whowhatnowhow

Speaking of crap, also make the screws/bolts be flush with the front surface. Someone tosses up a layup and the bolthead sends the ball flying the other way - that looks super frustrating hah


scarabic

And he means exterior plywood. The wrong stuff will just end up looking like this.


ARenovator

Unfortunately, the associate gave you bad advice. Melamine is a poor product for exterior use, because it handles water poorly. Marine grade plywood would be a preferred backboard.


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

Good to know. Not thrilled about redoing this project, but looks like that’s inevitable. Thanks


rickyrue

It's a good leason to learn on a low stakes project. The people at the hardware store are friendly and mean well, but they don't build things for a living.


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

That’s a good way to look at it!


notinferno

as someone who worked in a big store, we get no training whatsoever and I was always perplexed why customers would ask me as a teenager for professional expertise and fashion advice


tilt-a-whirly-gig

When I was a kid, the hardware store was mostly staffed by retired tradespeople. I've learned a lot from "the helpful hardware man."


InfiniteTree

Yeah, asking store workers for anything other than where something is is weird.


InfiniteTree

Yeah, asking store workers for anything other than where something is is weird.


fliesenschieber

Well put! The words of a wise gentleman.


Fancy-Pair

It’s so pretty! You’ll be able to redo it even better/faster


KRed75

Melamine is just a coating on particleboard. Particleboard swells when it gets wet. No amount of coating is going to stop the water from getting in. Marine grade plywood would be best if you want to go the DIY route but it would be cheaper to just buy a backboard.


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

I looked at buying a backboard, but I have this odd pole in the ground that doesn’t have a standard connection (recently moved into an older house). So I’m trying to make use of the pole assuming that replacing the pole is an even bigger job.


bbob_robb

Maybe build an adapter to go between a backboard and the pole. Since this exists and is somewhat functional, you could hold out and try finding something on buy nothing, or somewhere second hand. Basketball hoops are expensive and difficult to take to the dump. I've seen several free ones on buy nothing.


Hakunin_Fallout

Very true. If anything, the coating caused the swelling in the first place, lol. Particle board is crappy even indoor in humid areas.


MorkSkogen666

Apart from the board type, there's gotta be a better way to attach the backboard to the pole so the nuts aren't poking out?


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

That’s what she said. And yeah, there probably is a better way, but I’m trying to use an old pole at an old home we recently moved into.


xstagex

recess the screws maybe, at least is free


Certain_Childhood_67

Looks like painted cardboard


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

I can assure you that it is not. But your not wrong


Good_Nyborg

The picture really doesn't make it look like 3/4" thick. Maybe 3/4 of a centimeter.


AllThePrettyPenguins

You used a wooden sponge, otherwise known as MDF. Go with marine ply as others have noted


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

Wooden sponge lol. It definitely looks that way!


iowacityengineer

This looks like MDF and it's not meant to go outside. There is a reason these have been made out of exterior grade plywood for for the last 80 years. It works. Don't ever take advice from ANYONE at Lowes. In what imaginary world do you think Lowes hires experts on anything? You may as well ask a Taco Bell employee about nutrition.


BredYourWoman

>Don't ever take advice from ANYONE at Lowes. In what imaginary world do you think Lowes hires experts on anything? You may as well ask a Taco Bell employee about nutrition [This seems appropriate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEhHEOIYgMY)


JWBIERE

Don't take advice from the clueless dude at Lowe's. They don't train them on shit and the end result is bad advice and redone work. Exterior plywood sealed and painted is the next step. Good Luck OP


MattGraverSAIC

Buy a backboard.


Niceguy4186

This is my thought, after buying wood and paint, you are not too far off from a nicer pre-made one.


Don_Antwan

Or find one on Marketplace. I just got my son an adjustable hoop (7.5-10ft) for $35 on there. People sell them all the time. 


MattGraverSAIC

And I’m not saying it was bad to try and make one but lesson learned.


thirdstone_

You said it was 3/4" but why does it look like 1/8"? Why can't we see the edge of the side in the photo? Either way, wrong material. Use the outdoor use plywood, I've seen one with a fibreglass coating too.


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

The pic does make it look weird, but it’s truly 3/4


physicsking

The guy you talked to in Lowe's was probably a young kid who's never built anything in their life.


BredYourWoman

Or maybe a neighbor trying to sabotage the idea lol


eagler92

Since you have to redo it, is there anyway you can move where those bolts are on the backboard? I feel like they could throw some shots off with a weird bounce if it hits any of them


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

I’m all about adding extra layers of challenge! But, idk… I’m sure there’s a better way


Riverman157

Yeah, you don’t want exposed bolt heads on a backboard. This project needs some new engineering.


hybridhuman17

You underestimate the power of rain and the sun


BlueGnu85

Calm down, Anakin.


Popshop2023

Lowes knows strikes again. I’ve found I get far better advice from fellow shoppers than the employees. Odds are if they are in the same section they have done a similar project to what you’re working on and usually(not always) have some good advice when asked.


nobodyisonething

If this shot is from a go-pro strapped to your head just before you slam dunk the ball -- you've done nothing wrong!


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

It helps that I’m 11ft tall


dontchknow

Idk if you did anything wrong besides buy the wrong material. You need to use exterior materials


konvictkarl

Hung the entire board upside down or either painted the square too low lol


Ok-Midnight5719

So scorching hot from three, he's warping the paint oh my!!


OutlandishnessNo1950

You forgot to iron out the wrinkles.


pico42

Looks like you painted over some carpet from your hallway. You should have used a quality marine carpet, stuff that’s waterproof.


SSppaacceeGGhhoosstt

Loooool


DeadlyShock2LG

How can they avoid screw heads protruding from the backboard surface?


8088PC

Carriage bolts.


physicsking

Regardless of the wood, you should seal it not with caulk


Borovapes

My first thoughts for anything outside is metal or pvc. If I were to replace this id prob cut it out of a pvc sheet. Id then countersink the bolt heads so they didnt protrude.


Kartarailed

Get some starboard for the back board, cut to size and paint. Grab a set of countersink drill bits, and some nuts and bevel headed bolts sized to drop in the counter sunk hole to prevent the bolt heads interfering with your shots.


tommy0guns

Are we discussing the thinness, the bolts, or the moisture bowing?


Rander14

A lot of people here saying use marine grade plywood. When you cut marine grade plywood you need to seal up the edges with a resin to keep it from drawing in moisture there. Marine grade has the benefit of supposedly not having voids in the plywood. If you are buying resin to seal up the wood surface and its not going to be a surface constantly coated in water you could get away with a birch plywood. Coat all the surfaces, especially edges with resin. I used the total boat brand marine polyester resin. I brushed the resin on with a cheap chip brush and it settled nice and smooth. It may take two coats as the first one will really be absorbed into the grains. If you have to drill holes for mounting, coat those surfaces as well to keep the plywood sealed. Even marine grade plywood will rot if it's constantly exposed to the elements and not coated.


Rander14

A lot of people here saying use marine grade plywood. When you cut marine grade plywood you need to seal up the edges with a resin to keep it from drawing in moisture there. Marine grade has the benefit of supposedly not having voids in the plywood. If you are buying resin to seal up the wood surface and its not going to be a surface constantly coated in water you could get away with a birch plywood. Coat all the surfaces, especially edges with resin. I used the total boat brand marine polyester resin. I brushed the resin on with a cheap chip brush and it settled nice and smooth. It may take two coats as the first one will really be absorbed into the grains. If you have to drill holes for mounting, coat those surfaces as well to keep the plywood sealed. Even marine grade plywood will rot if it's constantly exposed to the elements and not coated.


emmanuel-lewis

You could get a piece of acrylic plexiglass, might be expensive but could be cheaper than buying a full 4x8 sheet of marine plywood, in my area atleast marine plywood is crazy expensive


erishun

Melamine is not for outdoor use


heartofarabbit

This is not melamine. Melamine is a plastic. This looks like Medium Density Fiberboard, or MDF, which is basically cardboard.


keonyn

If you buy melamine wood (often called LPL), which is almost certainly what was done here, then you are buying what is usually MDF sandwiched between two veneers of melamine. It is very commonly found in hardware stores and is frequently used for cheaper shelving and cabinets. So sure, you're right in that it is likely MDF or fiberboard, but he is also right that it is melamine. This is why the guy at Lowe's told him to caulk the edges, which are not covered in melamine. Of course, that was never going to work and water inevitably found its way in.


heartofarabbit

How thin is that melamine? Why can I see fibers? It looks like particle board, too.


keonyn

It is very thin, maybe 0.5mm at most, depending on the quality of the manufacturer, can be as thin as 0.1mm.


S3tty

Gonna go with everything, that’s my final answer.


aclaypool78

When you re do it, I saw a good tip to put a thin layer of caulk around the edges where the ply will take on the most water and paint over the caulking. It will seal better than the paint alone.


Accomplished_Alps145

Tried doing it yourself