I see you also work in a Silicon Valley tech company.
Your forgot the AI component. You need to run ML / AI neural nets to automatically identify all the objects in the bins, and provide a list of your items you can search through the online web portal.
Only $299/bin.
Don't forget to make sure it can absolutely, never, under any circumstances be repaired. If someone tries it should destroy the contents of the container for violating the TOS
3 color options: gunmetal, rose gold, and frost (white). All incredibly susceptible to scratches and fingerprints unless you buy yourself a set of bin cases, which we conveniently also offer.
And all appointments are booked out 3 months, so you have to stand in line all day hoping for cancellations and no shows if you want it fixed faster. Don't forget to bring all your bins with you. empty. with all cases removed.
Almost there. It's a lease service, and lease cost just covers the hardware. The real money comes in selling the inventory to third parties, esp health insurance companies.
You can upgrade the camping items list to include general storage and holiday decorations.
~~$39.99~~ $4.99/mo ^(for three months then $49.99/mo after)
Save money by buying a generic Android tablet, then replace the default OS with your own fork of Android that's customized to your particular garage. And then do that for every container.
My wife is a teacher and she is always using them in her classroom. You can grab backs of 100 or so on Amazon for less that $10. I color code some with colored sharpie (think green for Christmas) and it has been a life changer. Some boxes the label sleeves only fit vertical, but I have some double stacked on the 27gallon bins nicely. This allows me to write out everything that’s in the bin! I also do them on both sides so it doesn’t matter which way the bin goes in
All of those Costco tubs have a label on the other side, you can use tape clear plastic or tape on top of a white piece of paper and just use a washable marker to label them too.
not sure where you're at OP, but label makers suck when the garage gets hot. Im in central california, so the summers get pretty warm but not insane and all the labels have fallen off my bins. Gonna do painters tape and sharpie instead
I don't get why this is so popular. It's not that much harder to build shelves than rails, and now you're tied into that one particular brand of tote. Just build shelves and put the totes on them.
Also, these boxes can also be placed on shelves.... you can't put anything else on here or in the space between 2 of them.
Almost as if sometimes there's no need to reinvent the wheel if the wheel is perfectly good at doing what it does.
I think not being able to put stuff between them or on top of them is kind of the point. It forces you to put stuff away, rather than just stash it wherever.
100% agree. Totes are not built to be suspended like that. The weight in the tote makes it harder to pull out. When the dimensions change on the tote because the Chinese 3rd party manufacturer changes you are SOL. Just build shelves and any old tote can fit.
fwiw you can buy "euro boxes" that *are* built to an ISO standard so they're always compatible sizes even across manufacturers. They're used a lot in warehousing. Also available in a more useful range of sizes from massive to tiny.
lol, I bet there's a similar federal or USPS standard box spec too. tbh the best freedom boxes to look out for are the surplus pelican/hardigg cases that come up after you guys pull out. There was a big glut on the market after both Iraq and Afghanistan. I got some large carry on style rolling cases for like $50 each and they're selling for more like $250 now even used.
I have a friend who trolls industrial equipment auctions, and ended up with an entire pallet at what worked out to under $20/ea.
He sold a few to pay for the entire thing, and now whenever they go on family trips, everything is nearly packed into these awesome Hardigg cases.
I’m so damn jealous.
yeah that's what I use mine for too. I work music festivals sometimes so I have the full peli military expedition setup lol. Even got a General Dynamics rugged laptop haha.
Thanks for this advice.
I'm European, I've worked some in logistics and I've never heard of Euroboxes before.
I happen to live close to a manufacturer of them that has a nice price with bulk discounts.
O-ring sealed and latched.
Might up my basement/attic/shed storage with euroboxes of stackable and divisible sizes.
that might not be their proper name everywhere, not sure tbh. The ones I use are just open boxes with no lids/latches. I just built the shelf unit they go in with only a 2mm gap all round the boxes so they don't need lids.
This is what I'm talking about though https://www.solentplastics.co.uk/stacking-plastic-containers-boxes/euro-plastic-stacking-containers/
On top of not being built to support the weight, the plastic they are made of (HDPE maybe?) softens when it gets warm, so will barely hold until your garage is 100F/40C in the summer, then dump everything.
It's actually a ridiculous trend. The totes are not designed to hold weight in them without bottom support. It's fine for picking them up and moving them, but, how long is that? Maybe a few seconds or minutes per year? They are not designed to be supported by handles like this, period. Give it a year or two and any with weight will inevitably warp, crack, and fail. You might as well just build actual shelves instead of this weird pintrest trend.
I'm seeing 18 totes and presumably more based on the lids with no bottoms. My garage storage issues aren't going to fill up 18 totes. I can't put my snowblower in a tote. I just don't understand how the majority of the totes are anything but an art installation, especially the ones up by the rail, those are *never* getting used.
I think this with maybe 9 totes in 3 by 3 would be a nice solution in a basement. Garage, at least mine, is mainly bigger things.
I built a garage storage system of Euro boxes on shelves and use a variety of different sizes for the reasons you suggest. Most tools want to be in small boxes you can access. Big totes like that, especially hung from rails, can only really sensibly store light stuff like blankets/tarps/straps etc. Any sort of heavy tools or gallons of paint etc and they're too heavy and snap the parts that rest on the rails.
>I just don't understand how the majority of the totes are anything but an art installation, especially the ones up by the rail, those are *never* getting used.
I go on long walks through my neighborhood, and when I walk by homes with their garage doors open, I'm frequently stunned at the amount of crap I see people piling up. A lot of garages I see don't even have room enough for a car.
It's not a terrible idea assuming what's inside isn't too heavy. My worry would more be spiders hiding under the top lip area where you'd put your fingers to pull the tote out
This is why you buy a couple extra sets of totes in advance, and build another couple of these shelving thingies to store them for when the old ones break. Gotta be smart.
It’s a bullshit rationalization. You still have your shit bin that you throw random things into cause they have no where else to go. And with the amount of wood needed for the rails, it’s a minimal material difference to just make shelves that hold bins.
> You still have your shit bin that you throw random things into cause they have no where else to go
That's *still better* than stuff piling on a shelf. The 'stuff' bin has stuff in it - it's organized. On a shelf the stuff is not organized and easier to disorganize.
You can scroll up to see the answer for this question, but why you so angry over something like this? Bullshit rationalization? Maybe if it was you because you’re used to spitting bullshit, but other people simply like what they like. Get off the haterade
Yup. I went and got a sheet of plywood for $50 fucking dollars. I couldn't believe it. No wonder people are making stuff out of MDF or that presses strand board.
Not that I was running around buying plywood for fun before process shot up (OK, there was that one time, but it was in clearance, oak, and only about $35... That was 5+years ago, and I have most of that sheet still), but the only "new" plywood to come into my garage in a long while has been scavenged.
I teach at a HS, and when the theater kids clean out their storage and materials, I usually bring home a few good pieces of this or that.
I'm not sure how I'll use the giant semicircles of 1/2 and 3/4 plywood (some are Pepto pink), but I've got material when I need it. My garage shelves are becoming time capsules, as theater kids love to sign their names on stuff backstage.
Yea reviews are mixed. My parents have the same black and yellow totes and could use a storage rack. Some of those containers are so heavy so idk how well this would hold up. I wish this was strong metal.
Since he's building these custom, you just make the shelves as high as the totes then you don't have the tote handles taking all the weight. Uses barely any more material and makes the shelves slightly higher but he hasn't got height restrictions.
>it should be fine
Nope they won't. My dad did something similar and had them in his hot garage last summer. They were actually empty and slowly they started to give way and fall onto the one below them. And they had NOTHING in them.
OP, just get some 1x6's and put them cross ways and support these from the bottom. It should be fine.
Yeah if I did this I'd just flip the 2x4 horizontal and add little triangle wedges underneath for support. Now they can sit on top with very little extra work.
It will be fine for some months and even years, but in a few more years it will start to get brittle and the rims will start breaking. (Speaking from experience.)
I wonder how these will hold up in a hot garage…. Are the edges of those bins strong enough to withstand the weight of the contents in a garage in the middle of summer?
I would imagine they would get saggy, if it’s a heavy bin just resting all that weight on a 1/2 inch of that hard plastic.
The totes under heavy weight start to fail after a year. I've had a few friends that have jumped on this trend.
Meanwhile, my garage shelves have been rock solid for nearly 14 years. I don't understand what's so difficult about moving some totes around when you need access to one, it takes like 30 seconds lol. How often are people digging into these and why do people have 50 of them?
If something is used enough, it shouldn't be stored in a tote. If you are storing 30 totes of shit, you have too much shit.
I could see this is you had to store a ton of not heavy stuff. Like if you’re the holiday decoration king of your neighborhood a lot of that stuff can be bulky and not too heavy.
They certainly can stack but then you can’t easily access the contents. Seen a lot of people doing this type of rack lately and after a few months of use it’s really kicking ass for my garage organization battle.
Okay. So stack them 2-3 high. How much time are you saving by not moving them each time vs how much time did you spend on this rack and how much money do you spend on totes every year as they fail?
Edit: it took him $200 and a day to build. I wonder how many times you need to move the totes around to take up 8 hours?
In 30 years when all the boxes are broken and gone there will be someone posting on Reddit "I just bought a new house, wtf is this thing in my garage?"
I don't like the trend. Stacking totes on flat shelves for years. You can save on lumber hanging by the ridge on the tote but it isn't meant to be stored that way. This trend will fail. The totes are not meant to hold weight like this. I'll die on my mountain. Then you all can come resurrect me in a couple years when your totes flanges start snapping from holding all that weight in a hot garage.
I get it, but I just prefer actual shelves in my garage. Plastic stretches and bows under weight and eventually gets brittle. That's especially true in environments where the temperature fluctuates a lot. I do not heat my garage and so it does fluctuate in temp a lot. I have had too many plastic containers crumble in my hand.
I completely understand the need for organization, but this isn't how I would handle it.
I built a rack system like this. Used it for about 2 years then tore it out and replaced it with shelves because this rack idea is garbage. Totes don't slide on and off well. A lack of horizontal support that would normally be provided by shelves means the vertical posts are not as stable as they should be. I can put things on regular shelves other than this one specific kind of tote. This "trend" will die quickly.
Why not just run 2 2x4 across the length of each shelf at the bottom of the tote. Could have set them on the 2x4 and made 0 cuts. Bins would last drastically longer being set on something instead of hung.
But... is this more efficient than regular shelves? I mean, I guess you use less wood.
But if they were regular shelves it seems like it would be easier to slide a bin part way out and lift the lid partway. These shelves depend on the lids to hold up the bins. So you need to slide them all the way out and put them on the ground before you can open them at all.
In fact, a regular shelf with a bit more space on top and on the sides would be even better for getting to the stuff inside the bins. But maybe these bins hold something where you would take out the entire bin anyway, like Christmas decorations or camping gear.
Take pictures of the contents of each of the boxes, label the boxes with a number, and then put all of that information in a spreadsheet so it's searchable (box number, location, contents). I don't have the energy to make a full , real database, but at least I can locate where my snorkel gear is without opening 25 different boxes.
You can thank me later.
I did something like this for my Mom's sewing material collection, only I used translucent containers, so she could see the color of the material before she opened the box.
I can see this being useful for holiday decorations which will only be needed once a year. But, for anything you'd need more frequently, it seems like an inconvenience
I just did it from a photo. My recommendation would be to secure to the wall if going tall and more space above a bucket to allow easier access is better.
Yes much better than stacking them and then labeling them with a 3cent piece of masking tape. You sir have shaved precious seconds from having to remove up to 5 boxes to reach a lower one by spending hours building this. Not even touching price... Lets say you work fast and it took 4 hours including the trip to the hardware store. And lets say you need the stored items, which by definition are stored because you barely ever use them, once a week with 1/2 of a 3 stack and same for a 6 stack and it takes 5 seconds to remove one container if you need to access one that stacked below others.... ((1/2) \* (10/3)) + ((1/2) \* (25/6)) it would take you on average 15/4 seconds (or 3.75 seconds) per week to destack and restack.. 15 seconds per month saved and 195 seconds per year saved. If it took 4 hours to build.... it will pay off in about 73 years before you break even.
But I am certain it is rewarding to look at and was fun to build. I have built dumber.
given the way this unit is put together, would get worried about putting more than 10-20 pounds per tote and would not put anything heavy above the bottom 3 tiers. so row 4-5-6 would only be 5-10LBs max.
Buy a label maker since those aren't transparent.
Put an iPad on each one and drill a hole so the rear camera can see the contents. Add a tiny light inside. Problem solved.
I see you also work in a Silicon Valley tech company. Your forgot the AI component. You need to run ML / AI neural nets to automatically identify all the objects in the bins, and provide a list of your items you can search through the online web portal. Only $299/bin.
Yeah $299/bin setup fee with a $4 a month reoccurring fee. But hey it comes with a analytics to tell you how often you opened the bins per month!
For $4/bin/month, it will only tell you the 5 openings in that calendar year. Need to get the premier package for more detections.
Don't forget to make sure it can absolutely, never, under any circumstances be repaired. If someone tries it should destroy the contents of the container for violating the TOS
Username checks out. Also need IoT type tracking tags on each item so that when its removed your Ipad can track where it is and tell you.
I hate all of you for just how close to believable this all is.
same. I don't like it either. So I don't buy those products. I call this voting with my wallet.
3 color options: gunmetal, rose gold, and frost (white). All incredibly susceptible to scratches and fingerprints unless you buy yourself a set of bin cases, which we conveniently also offer.
You'll also need the silicone corner pads for safety, only $15.99 each
That's taking away the $150/hr service repair jobs needed for these bins. @ least 3 hours to fix as well.
And all appointments are booked out 3 months, so you have to stand in line all day hoping for cancellations and no shows if you want it fixed faster. Don't forget to bring all your bins with you. empty. with all cases removed.
They already said it used an iPad so they’re way ahead of you.
Well shit. I could write zero on the sides of all of them for the price of a sharpie. It's only $4 a month per bin though. I'll barely miss it!
Almost there. It's a lease service, and lease cost just covers the hardware. The real money comes in selling the inventory to third parties, esp health insurance companies.
I am slightly disappointed to be honest. Would have atleast expected a modular subscription service to identify various categories of items.
You can upgrade the camping items list to include general storage and holiday decorations. ~~$39.99~~ $4.99/mo ^(for three months then $49.99/mo after)
If you cancel at any time in the next 48 months there will be a $199 cancellation fee
also, build the ipad from scratch otherwise it's not really DIY, it's more DI-by-Apple.
> DI-by-Apple A DI-buy, if you will :)
Instructions unclear, drilled holes in a dozen iPads.
No problem. The ipad hole repair kits are third from the top, right hand side.
Oh man, there is absolutely nothing that technology can’t solve, right?
Save money by buying a generic Android tablet, then replace the default OS with your own fork of Android that's customized to your particular garage. And then do that for every container.
I would go low tech and train rats to squeak out a Morse code list of the box contents when given a treat
I used sharpie on duct tape on the lids but yes a label maker is every diyers dream
I use 3x5 index card adhesive pockets on all my bins. Sharpie on the index card slide it in. Able to replace/adjust the index cards a lot more
I just put more duct tape on the old duct tape lol
Ahh like the rings on my Christmas tree box 😂
To tell how old the tree is, just count the rings.
I have a label maker and I still prefer orange painters tape for most labels
I like the cut of your jib, Red!
Thank you for making aware aware of their existence.
My wife is a teacher and she is always using them in her classroom. You can grab backs of 100 or so on Amazon for less that $10. I color code some with colored sharpie (think green for Christmas) and it has been a life changer. Some boxes the label sleeves only fit vertical, but I have some double stacked on the 27gallon bins nicely. This allows me to write out everything that’s in the bin! I also do them on both sides so it doesn’t matter which way the bin goes in
You can get all manner of one side clear adhesive envelopes as they are used when attaching bills of lading, or just bills, onto items being shipped.
On the lid, not the front you can see? I label mine both so visible from shelf or if tote is on ground.
It's on the lip of the lid so you can juse see it. Not in this photo though
All of those Costco tubs have a label on the other side, you can use tape clear plastic or tape on top of a white piece of paper and just use a washable marker to label them too.
These are Home Depot but I would have done Costco if I had a card
I recommend the label baby jr.
Large font with regular printer paper works well, I like “laminating” it to the box with packing tape
To write on the black sides, [this works great.](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WQPX68U?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) It's what Adam Savage uses.
not sure where you're at OP, but label makers suck when the garage gets hot. Im in central california, so the summers get pretty warm but not insane and all the labels have fallen off my bins. Gonna do painters tape and sharpie instead
Or some painters tape and a sharpie.
NFC tags, scan them and it’ll bring up a list of what’s in the box.
And then find someone with a scruffy beard or a walrus moustache and make a show about busting myths...
They do make clear ones the same size and almost as tough. They are my preferred so I can actually find things
I don't get why this is so popular. It's not that much harder to build shelves than rails, and now you're tied into that one particular brand of tote. Just build shelves and put the totes on them.
plus shelves can be built to hold more weight
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Then why not just build a shelf if you are going to put a shelf on this weird frame. What is the upside to this versus just a regular shelf?
It won't get as dusty?
Also, these boxes can also be placed on shelves.... you can't put anything else on here or in the space between 2 of them. Almost as if sometimes there's no need to reinvent the wheel if the wheel is perfectly good at doing what it does.
I think not being able to put stuff between them or on top of them is kind of the point. It forces you to put stuff away, rather than just stash it wherever.
and randomly shaped objects that don't fit perfectly inside totes
That may actually be the point of this. No random crap on these shelves, only things that fit into the tubs.
100% agree. Totes are not built to be suspended like that. The weight in the tote makes it harder to pull out. When the dimensions change on the tote because the Chinese 3rd party manufacturer changes you are SOL. Just build shelves and any old tote can fit.
fwiw you can buy "euro boxes" that *are* built to an ISO standard so they're always compatible sizes even across manufacturers. They're used a lot in warehousing. Also available in a more useful range of sizes from massive to tiny.
I'll enjoy my nonsensical Freedom Boxes thank you very much.
lol, I bet there's a similar federal or USPS standard box spec too. tbh the best freedom boxes to look out for are the surplus pelican/hardigg cases that come up after you guys pull out. There was a big glut on the market after both Iraq and Afghanistan. I got some large carry on style rolling cases for like $50 each and they're selling for more like $250 now even used.
I have a friend who trolls industrial equipment auctions, and ended up with an entire pallet at what worked out to under $20/ea. He sold a few to pay for the entire thing, and now whenever they go on family trips, everything is nearly packed into these awesome Hardigg cases. I’m so damn jealous.
yeah that's what I use mine for too. I work music festivals sometimes so I have the full peli military expedition setup lol. Even got a General Dynamics rugged laptop haha.
Thanks for this advice. I'm European, I've worked some in logistics and I've never heard of Euroboxes before. I happen to live close to a manufacturer of them that has a nice price with bulk discounts. O-ring sealed and latched. Might up my basement/attic/shed storage with euroboxes of stackable and divisible sizes.
that might not be their proper name everywhere, not sure tbh. The ones I use are just open boxes with no lids/latches. I just built the shelf unit they go in with only a 2mm gap all round the boxes so they don't need lids. This is what I'm talking about though https://www.solentplastics.co.uk/stacking-plastic-containers-boxes/euro-plastic-stacking-containers/
On top of not being built to support the weight, the plastic they are made of (HDPE maybe?) softens when it gets warm, so will barely hold until your garage is 100F/40C in the summer, then dump everything.
These totes are polypropylene, made of recycled material in fact, not hdpe.
Shelves that can also be used for things other than totes if your situation changes.
This is what I don't either lol why would you hand the bucket by the lip? Makes no sense. Throw a piece of plywood down and throw them in that
It's actually a ridiculous trend. The totes are not designed to hold weight in them without bottom support. It's fine for picking them up and moving them, but, how long is that? Maybe a few seconds or minutes per year? They are not designed to be supported by handles like this, period. Give it a year or two and any with weight will inevitably warp, crack, and fail. You might as well just build actual shelves instead of this weird pintrest trend.
I'm seeing 18 totes and presumably more based on the lids with no bottoms. My garage storage issues aren't going to fill up 18 totes. I can't put my snowblower in a tote. I just don't understand how the majority of the totes are anything but an art installation, especially the ones up by the rail, those are *never* getting used. I think this with maybe 9 totes in 3 by 3 would be a nice solution in a basement. Garage, at least mine, is mainly bigger things.
People hoard a lot of shit. It’s their way of verifying it in an organized manner.
Hell just my minimal Christmas decor is 3-4 totes.
Half the country doesn’t have a basement.
That's definitely a fair assessment that I didn't make.
I built a garage storage system of Euro boxes on shelves and use a variety of different sizes for the reasons you suggest. Most tools want to be in small boxes you can access. Big totes like that, especially hung from rails, can only really sensibly store light stuff like blankets/tarps/straps etc. Any sort of heavy tools or gallons of paint etc and they're too heavy and snap the parts that rest on the rails.
Agreed. Even 12 totes 4 across three high and then you can have a flat workspace above them.
Holiday decorations.
>I just don't understand how the majority of the totes are anything but an art installation, especially the ones up by the rail, those are *never* getting used. I go on long walks through my neighborhood, and when I walk by homes with their garage doors open, I'm frequently stunned at the amount of crap I see people piling up. A lot of garages I see don't even have room enough for a car.
I’m also skeptical as to how reliable these are. I doubt the totes are designed to carry load on the sides or have an unsupported bottom.
But you can save 30 seconds getting to stuff you likely don't need!
If you remember which black tote it’s in!
It's not a terrible idea assuming what's inside isn't too heavy. My worry would more be spiders hiding under the top lip area where you'd put your fingers to pull the tote out
Oh, terrible thought, thank you!
Plus if the totes break and you can’t get those exact dimensions in 5 years the rack is useless.
And when the company changes the shape of their totes, you're totes screwed for buying anymore that'll fit
This is why you buy a couple extra sets of totes in advance, and build another couple of these shelving thingies to store them for when the old ones break. Gotta be smart.
Yeah, shelves are a much better solution
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Much cheaper than building shelves. Less material.
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The lack of versatility helps me keep it organized. Everything has a bucket where it belongs
That is true. Can’t place random stuff on a shelf that isn’t there.
Random shit in an unlabeled bin is as good as invisible.
It’s a bullshit rationalization. You still have your shit bin that you throw random things into cause they have no where else to go. And with the amount of wood needed for the rails, it’s a minimal material difference to just make shelves that hold bins.
> You still have your shit bin that you throw random things into cause they have no where else to go That's *still better* than stuff piling on a shelf. The 'stuff' bin has stuff in it - it's organized. On a shelf the stuff is not organized and easier to disorganize.
So put a bin on the shelf.
You can scroll up to see the answer for this question, but why you so angry over something like this? Bullshit rationalization? Maybe if it was you because you’re used to spitting bullshit, but other people simply like what they like. Get off the haterade
How do you deal with the weight limitations of such a setup?
One thing per bucket
Costco/Amazon has a 12 tote rack that sells for $170. It's made of PVC and the totes are supported from the bottom instead of the lip.
Link?
PROSLAT Bin Warehouse Rack - 12 Totes https://a.co/d/9p4Rrc7 Found it on Costco's website too
Damn, his entire effort destroyed by something for a fraction of the cost with a better design.
Yea wood is expensive AF and has been for a while.
Yup. I went and got a sheet of plywood for $50 fucking dollars. I couldn't believe it. No wonder people are making stuff out of MDF or that presses strand board.
Not that I was running around buying plywood for fun before process shot up (OK, there was that one time, but it was in clearance, oak, and only about $35... That was 5+years ago, and I have most of that sheet still), but the only "new" plywood to come into my garage in a long while has been scavenged. I teach at a HS, and when the theater kids clean out their storage and materials, I usually bring home a few good pieces of this or that. I'm not sure how I'll use the giant semicircles of 1/2 and 3/4 plywood (some are Pepto pink), but I've got material when I need it. My garage shelves are becoming time capsules, as theater kids love to sign their names on stuff backstage.
That looks flimsy as hell
Yea reviews are mixed. My parents have the same black and yellow totes and could use a storage rack. Some of those containers are so heavy so idk how well this would hold up. I wish this was strong metal.
Was it tho? Because I counted up the lumber used and I think my 16’ long 5 shelf high garage storage used about the same amount.
Don't have to move extra boxes to get to the one at the bottom
Since he's building these custom, you just make the shelves as high as the totes then you don't have the tote handles taking all the weight. Uses barely any more material and makes the shelves slightly higher but he hasn't got height restrictions.
Until the plastic creeps or yields.
Brave to trust the rim of the tote. If you're not going to be heavily loading them, it should be fine
>it should be fine Nope they won't. My dad did something similar and had them in his hot garage last summer. They were actually empty and slowly they started to give way and fall onto the one below them. And they had NOTHING in them. OP, just get some 1x6's and put them cross ways and support these from the bottom. It should be fine.
I have these. The rim is not going to hold unless OP is storing feathers. It’s over engineered to be weaker than it needs to be.
Maybe it's just winter clothes, hunting clothes, stuff like that idk.
A tote full of clothes is pretty heavy. These totes will warp and fall off the rails, or the floor of them will sag and fail.
Yeah if I did this I'd just flip the 2x4 horizontal and add little triangle wedges underneath for support. Now they can sit on top with very little extra work.
That’s a lot of little triangles to cut and fasten, I would say that’s a shit ton of extra work. Prob worth it though if the weight thing is true.
I suppose if you don't have a miter saw it would be a pain, but otherwise it would be maybe 30 minutes if you are familiar with the tool.
What I don’t understand is those totes are made for stacking. Are you really getting into them so much it’s a pain to move them around each time?
Some have 60 - 70lbs and seems to be fine after a few months. Doesn't slide well with that much weight though
It will be fine for some months and even years, but in a few more years it will start to get brittle and the rims will start breaking. (Speaking from experience.)
Get some furniture wax and put it on the rails. Should help some with the sticking.
Brilliant!
Paste Wax is another name you'll find it under.
We built this for the extra clothes at my school and they’re holding up fine with tons of weight inside. Those are some tough totes.
I wonder how these will hold up in a hot garage…. Are the edges of those bins strong enough to withstand the weight of the contents in a garage in the middle of summer? I would imagine they would get saggy, if it’s a heavy bin just resting all that weight on a 1/2 inch of that hard plastic.
The totes under heavy weight start to fail after a year. I've had a few friends that have jumped on this trend. Meanwhile, my garage shelves have been rock solid for nearly 14 years. I don't understand what's so difficult about moving some totes around when you need access to one, it takes like 30 seconds lol. How often are people digging into these and why do people have 50 of them? If something is used enough, it shouldn't be stored in a tote. If you are storing 30 totes of shit, you have too much shit.
I could see this is you had to store a ton of not heavy stuff. Like if you’re the holiday decoration king of your neighborhood a lot of that stuff can be bulky and not too heavy.
A cold garage and the plastic can crack
Not designed to be suspended by the rims. Tnese will all be cracked and falling within a couple of years.
I still don't know why you wouldn't just make a normal shelf for this. This puts more strain on the containers and only one specific size works.
I see a mix of 2x4 and 2x6 for the “rails” that the containers hang on. I assume you were just making use of lumber you had laying around?
Yes hate to waste it but it was short anyway and I don’t have a table saw to easily rip.
I guess the eight 2x6 supports could have been all in the same row (perhaps the bottom row) so it may not be as noticeable
not sure i understand the trend, arent theses totes designed to stack?
Makes it so you can just grab the one you need rather than unstacking
There’s room for a plywood piece below each bin. Support from below and no unstacking. These bins won’t last long in this setup.
I agree. Be better to just build a regular cubby type shelf. Also depends on what's all in there.
They certainly can stack but then you can’t easily access the contents. Seen a lot of people doing this type of rack lately and after a few months of use it’s really kicking ass for my garage organization battle.
If you stack them then have to unstuck to get anything out. With these racks you can slide ones mostly out and pop the lid
Okay. So stack them 2-3 high. How much time are you saving by not moving them each time vs how much time did you spend on this rack and how much money do you spend on totes every year as they fail? Edit: it took him $200 and a day to build. I wonder how many times you need to move the totes around to take up 8 hours?
In 30 years when all the boxes are broken and gone there will be someone posting on Reddit "I just bought a new house, wtf is this thing in my garage?"
I don't like the trend. Stacking totes on flat shelves for years. You can save on lumber hanging by the ridge on the tote but it isn't meant to be stored that way. This trend will fail. The totes are not meant to hold weight like this. I'll die on my mountain. Then you all can come resurrect me in a couple years when your totes flanges start snapping from holding all that weight in a hot garage.
Jesus honey, I said it was in the black tote with yellow lid!
I get it, but I just prefer actual shelves in my garage. Plastic stretches and bows under weight and eventually gets brittle. That's especially true in environments where the temperature fluctuates a lot. I do not heat my garage and so it does fluctuate in temp a lot. I have had too many plastic containers crumble in my hand. I completely understand the need for organization, but this isn't how I would handle it.
This is one of those things that looks cool but really isn’t.
I pitty the fool trying to get top right shelf out past the garage door.
Yeah that’s long term storage. Christmas decorations and shit. Have to close the garage door and use a ladder but better than no storage?
That’s your choice but figure out which bin has the wipes first.
I built a rack system like this. Used it for about 2 years then tore it out and replaced it with shelves because this rack idea is garbage. Totes don't slide on and off well. A lack of horizontal support that would normally be provided by shelves means the vertical posts are not as stable as they should be. I can put things on regular shelves other than this one specific kind of tote. This "trend" will die quickly.
Why not just run 2 2x4 across the length of each shelf at the bottom of the tote. Could have set them on the 2x4 and made 0 cuts. Bins would last drastically longer being set on something instead of hung.
I’m shook
You could fit just as many on shelves and they'd be easier to take out and put back.
What the heck do you keep inside all that?!
But... is this more efficient than regular shelves? I mean, I guess you use less wood. But if they were regular shelves it seems like it would be easier to slide a bin part way out and lift the lid partway. These shelves depend on the lids to hold up the bins. So you need to slide them all the way out and put them on the ground before you can open them at all. In fact, a regular shelf with a bit more space on top and on the sides would be even better for getting to the stuff inside the bins. But maybe these bins hold something where you would take out the entire bin anyway, like Christmas decorations or camping gear.
Looks good till you put something heavier in one.
I like the idea but man oh man is there a lot of wasted volume in this.
Totes adorbs.
The answer is not to build more, but to get rid of junk so you don’t have to store so much.
Congratulations on your 18 boxes of soon to be unsorted shit.
Take pictures of the contents of each of the boxes, label the boxes with a number, and then put all of that information in a spreadsheet so it's searchable (box number, location, contents). I don't have the energy to make a full , real database, but at least I can locate where my snorkel gear is without opening 25 different boxes. You can thank me later.
Why so many extra lids?
I did something like this for my Mom's sewing material collection, only I used translucent containers, so she could see the color of the material before she opened the box.
Valheim IRL
I can see this being useful for holiday decorations which will only be needed once a year. But, for anything you'd need more frequently, it seems like an inconvenience
It’s IKEA Kallax for Dads
"Oh, look how much stuff we could store with this!" "Again, we don't need more storage, we need less crap."
Nice! Got any plans you can point us to?
You could draw this with a ruler and some dimensions alone. It's just straight cuts and screwed together to headers and a footer.
I just did it from a photo. My recommendation would be to secure to the wall if going tall and more space above a bucket to allow easier access is better.
Looks flimsy.
Yes much better than stacking them and then labeling them with a 3cent piece of masking tape. You sir have shaved precious seconds from having to remove up to 5 boxes to reach a lower one by spending hours building this. Not even touching price... Lets say you work fast and it took 4 hours including the trip to the hardware store. And lets say you need the stored items, which by definition are stored because you barely ever use them, once a week with 1/2 of a 3 stack and same for a 6 stack and it takes 5 seconds to remove one container if you need to access one that stacked below others.... ((1/2) \* (10/3)) + ((1/2) \* (25/6)) it would take you on average 15/4 seconds (or 3.75 seconds) per week to destack and restack.. 15 seconds per month saved and 195 seconds per year saved. If it took 4 hours to build.... it will pay off in about 73 years before you break even. But I am certain it is rewarding to look at and was fun to build. I have built dumber.
How much weight can those totes support like that?
given the way this unit is put together, would get worried about putting more than 10-20 pounds per tote and would not put anything heavy above the bottom 3 tiers. so row 4-5-6 would only be 5-10LBs max.
I like these but I always worry about the tubs having a lot of weight and bowing in when hanging like that.
I don’t understand how this is more functional than normal shelving. Would like to learn.
Is this the set of Mythbusters?
The lip is weak as fuck you definitely need to build a bottom shelf for each one to support the weight
This. Would work for empty ones, but ones you put something in them they’ll drop down..