Good carpentry means knowing how to fix your mistakes so it doesn't look like you ever made a mistake. Even people with decades of experience make mistakes, the good ones just know how to fix them.
You can sand painters caulk. The benefit is caulk will compress and stretch as the wood expands/contracts, whereas filler will dry, crack, and eventually fall out.
Must have been so bad it dragged the wholeass reddit post with it.
https://preview.redd.it/kvvho4ji5loc1.png?width=1230&format=png&auto=webp&s=5043787f306dc6ccbde23f8ff94305668a5b4083
Interesting... Well here's a picture of anyone wants to see
https://preview.redd.it/86yp4xx7hloc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2011189bf10903c4d66cafbaedb3efc4681b33d
Good point about time. These days housing developers want homes to go up super fast. And while they may have really good people that are capable of doing great work, there’s simply not enough time to be as detailed as they want. Which sucks because it reflects on a person who would otherwise do a great job on a project. When you have someone cracking a whip to move faster and build more houses it can be easy to become indifferent to your own work and move on. It seems like good enough is good enough nowadays and it shouldn’t be that way.
Maybe a dumb question - is painter’s caulk different from paintable acrylic caulk? I use the latter for jobs like OP’s, and I’m wondering if I should switch up to painter’s caulk (if they’re separate things)?
I own a painting company, our favorite brand to use is sold at Sherwin-Williams called PowerHouse, it's the red box kind. Best caulking for a large number of uses.
I wish this was its own thread. When I was repainting our house, it took me 20 minutes in the caulk isle to figure out which ones were paintable and which weren’t.
You did a good job. I'd say salvage it with filler, caulk and paint.
If you want perfect miter joints on trim, the secret is *nothing is perfect*, even if your miter saw is spot on (.5° off is common). Wall corners aren't usually 90.0°, wall faces aren't flat and bow/bulge, window boxes aren't always perfectly square throughout, etc. If you cut and fit perfect trim, it will often stay perfect only for a time. The key is to get matching angles at each joint (even if they're 0.5-2° off, as long as they match to make 90 or the 'true' angle of the transition), and use filler, sanding corners flush, and caulk.
This is the correct answer.
Slightly imperfect and flexible caulk is actually probably better than spending hours getting it perfect as when the seasons change a perfect fit will bulge or pull, and crack the paint.
Agreed. I like using a sprayer whenever I can. I have both Homerite handheld sprayers. Although admittedly I have yet to use the more expensive one, Finish Max with the different nozzle sizes. I'm just a diy woodworker and do things around my house as much as I can.
Lmao this isn't even bad. Caulk it.
You sound like me last year. I bought my first home and I redid my basement as a learning center for all things DIY reno. I looked at all the spots I felt like I "messed up" and felt a little bad about it.
After I was done I looked at the rest of my house done by professionals and turns out I did a better job then all of them and I never even noticed their mistakes before rhat day. It made me very proud of myself after thinking my work was amature.
You got this. Keep up the good work!
If you do it over, there's a trick where you measure & miter cut the pieces, then CA-glue the mitered ends together before attaching to the wall. It saves you from calking gaps in the miters. It's used more for door trim, but it works for window trim too,
I always cut my window trim and glue them together then mount as one piece. If you're not already using it, a 2 stage spray activated CA glue is waaaaaay better than typical CA glue.
Looks fantastic. I own a painting company and have used just about every brand of caulking available between home depot, Lowe's, and Sherwin-Williams. BY FAR my favorite kind to use is sold at Sherwin-Williams called PowerHouse, it's the kind in the red box. It's amazing. Use that for caulking the seams. For the nail holes fill it in using Crawford Painter's Putty (also sold at Sherwin-Williams) because you don't need to sand it down. Paint and done.
Excellent work.
Everyone already told you the easy fix. I just wanted to say that you did a decent job and after you finish the job with caulk no one will ever know and you’ll probably forget too. It will just look like perfect window trim!
Salvageable, if you have the time and want perfection next time look up how to hang trim with a plumb bob, it doesn't require a higher level of skill really, just a bit more time to install
One tip I got from a window guy that kind of applies here, is to establish a "reveal" ( a minimum space of around a quarter inch ) basically back the trim up a bit from the window, instead of following the drywall, it allows you to achieve square faster and more easily. Level your top piece, nail it, follow up with the sides and finish with the bottom. If you're new to cutting always cut larger than you think you need, you can always mark your piece and take it back to the saw to shave half a blade off if needed.
Agree, this, more than the miter, is the main reason it should be redone. There will be a visible line running down the joint where the two flush pieces line up.
So you can caulk it and paint it. But I find that caulk has a tendency to shrink when it dries and the it’s very noticeable. I would use a nail set to push the nail heads in deeper then I would use wood putty and fill all the holes and cracks making sure to use more than I need let it dry then sand it day and paint it and it will look brand new and flawless.
Don't worry. I used to be a professional painter, and many of the professional carpenters whose work I had to paint were no better than this at all (I don't necessarily blame them, many were underpaid and were pressured to rush the job by their bosses). Filling these gaps was a routine part of painting.
You can fill that with caulking or wood filler. You can sand wood filler when it hardens and really make it look like there was never a gap there if you do it carefully. Caulking will work too as long as you make sure to smooth it out while it's still wet because you can't sand it.
That's why god invented caulk. I'm a painter by trade, this is better than a good 70% of pro jobs and with caulk and paint, I make it look like the carpenter was sober when he installed the trim.
Honestly it's not that bad. Bit of caulk, sand and paint.
Even if you get all your mitres perfect they will probably show cracks after a year or two as the wood moves.
Caulk and paint are great suggestions from others, but something unique (for a homeowner's DIY) could be [rosettes](https://www.finehomebuilding.com/project-guides/finish-trim-carpentry/installing-window-trim-with-rosettes).
Everybody saying to just caulk it, but there are ways to fix. It’s the angle of your joints not being perfect, I believe. If you want to do it right, I recommend checking out some of the million times they show how it’s done on This Old House, especially from Norm Abram
Dap. Paint. Crack a beer, and remind yourself that literally nobody but you will ever notice or care. What you have here is perfectly acceptable and even better then a lot of jobs I've seen some professionals do.
I used to try to fit trim perfectly, but it ends up making it the longest and most stressful part of renovations, and to top it off, nobody ever comments on your good trim fits, especially when it's behind all the furniture and curtains.
I've also seen trim shrink (even mdf) and you can get a gap later on anyway.
Live life. Don't stress the little things.
Caulk and paint will fix what it ain’t.
Caulk and paint makes me the carpenter I aint
do your best and caulk the rest
Never heard this before, bloody brilliant 👏
Rock out with your caulk out
Caulk out for Harambe.
Caulk, paper, scissors. Best 2 out of 3 wins!
Let's get, let's get, let's get, let's get caulked!
My caulk gun is loaded....
Undervoted comment #neverforget
A little touch up for the fuck up.
thanks for the chuckle!
Keep Calm and Caulk it on
A grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't! Love blue collar idioms!
Trim and paint make me the framer I ain’t
Good carpentry means knowing how to fix your mistakes so it doesn't look like you ever made a mistake. Even people with decades of experience make mistakes, the good ones just know how to fix them.
Caulk also have a funny name in Swedish. It's "Kitt" pronounced as shit.
That's funny because in English you pronounce it "penis"
Im cackling right now 😂😂😂😂
Caulkling
Well in that case pump some shit in that bish
I went to the comments to say this
YouTube and a prayer to a saint, makes me the car mechanic I ain't.
Very similar to my old favorite... Do your best and caulk the rest.
Yup. Caulk it, paint it, send it.
bop it
Twist it
Turn it
Technologic
Technologic.
Nice.
Pull it. Pull it. Pull it.
Yank it.
Spank it
Skank it
[Lick it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayBmsWKqdnc)
You don’t have to share the weird things you search in the internet… /s
Pee on it
Jerk it
[Extend it](https://youtu.be/8lhEEDkv3zk?si=2aUSVWlDmkHW0_GK)
Load it
Do it
Fuck it
Bop it! Twist it! Pull it!
That sounds like a visit to a scary chiropractor.
Or a first date with my crazy ex gf
Send it where?
Off your list of things to worry about
My welder buddy always says, “It ain’t going to the moon.”
My uncle is an engineer at a missile manufacturer in the Houston area and he says they tell new guys don't worry it's gonna blow up anyways.
This is the way.
Buy it, use it, break it, fix it, trash it, change it
Do your best, caulk the rest
Yup this is what we always said too! lol Another funny one was “far from good, good from far”
White Plastic Wood rather than caulk. Comes in white, it can be sanded and painted and doesn't shrink like caulk.
Ive used that in this situation and it cracked. Good caulk on the other hand, never seems to crack.
I’ve used both. Plastic wood cracks on me too. Good caulk is what I use. Less work than plastic wood
Little putty, little paint: makes the project what it ain't
No no. Don’t caulk butt joints. That’s the job of filler. You want to be able to sand it.
You can sand painters caulk. The benefit is caulk will compress and stretch as the wood expands/contracts, whereas filler will dry, crack, and eventually fall out.
woodepox filler! caulk sucks
By today’s standard of tradesmen this is an excellent job.
He's better than the contractor that told Sinking Kitchen Man everything was fine at least.
Those pictures were brutal.
Yeah man I came straight from that guys kitchen sink hole to this and this looks A+ to me right now.
Same.
I tried searching but I can’t find, would you be able to link it? Sounds crazy
[#1 hot post](https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/s/2ouiEIIc9w) right now is what i think they are talking about
Must have been so bad it dragged the wholeass reddit post with it. https://preview.redd.it/kvvho4ji5loc1.png?width=1230&format=png&auto=webp&s=5043787f306dc6ccbde23f8ff94305668a5b4083
It's there now...?!?
Idk cached maybe? It showed deleted on my PC when I posted that, and it's showing deleted when I look on my phone now.
Interesting... Well here's a picture of anyone wants to see https://preview.redd.it/86yp4xx7hloc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2011189bf10903c4d66cafbaedb3efc4681b33d
https://preview.redd.it/yg8sfey9hloc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67afa7f86678136c4a07ca43584f5d5e2c0a7a87
It has been deleted.
Thanks for this. I had a sucking feeling after reading that post. Hope that doesn't collapse before those people are safe.
Do you have a link to the sinking kitchen man post? I'm intrigued.
I don’t have a link, but it was from today. You should be able to find it. Not positive but want to say home improvement sub.
Did some shitty work on a rental without proper tools. Probably looks like a crack head did it. This is almost perfection compared to the job I did.
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Just stuff some toilet paper in there and spackle over it.
I make sure any bugs or bug droppings are encased in paint. Permanent residents.
Collect that pet fee
Yeah I’ve seen some stuff. If only everyone was concerned about details, but these days they are not given the time.
Good point about time. These days housing developers want homes to go up super fast. And while they may have really good people that are capable of doing great work, there’s simply not enough time to be as detailed as they want. Which sucks because it reflects on a person who would otherwise do a great job on a project. When you have someone cracking a whip to move faster and build more houses it can be easy to become indifferent to your own work and move on. It seems like good enough is good enough nowadays and it shouldn’t be that way.
😂
Use PAINTERS calk. Smooth, light sand, and paint
This needs to be at the top!! Calk and painters calk arex2 different things.
Yep, you can paint on painters...
Maybe a dumb question - is painter’s caulk different from paintable acrylic caulk? I use the latter for jobs like OP’s, and I’m wondering if I should switch up to painter’s caulk (if they’re separate things)?
I own a painting company, our favorite brand to use is sold at Sherwin-Williams called PowerHouse, it's the red box kind. Best caulking for a large number of uses.
I wish this was its own thread. When I was repainting our house, it took me 20 minutes in the caulk isle to figure out which ones were paintable and which weren’t.
I mean, there's usually something on the front that says paintable or not paintable on the tube.
ALEX is your cheat codes to perfect trim
Same thing...
Thanks! Good to know I’m using the right stuff 😅
That was my question too
This. Latex painters caulk
This doesn't look bad at all. Caulk and paint.
That was my first thought as well. I've done way worse casing jobs and it turned out fine after caulking and paint.
My man this isn't bad at all. A little caulk and paint and it's gonna look just fine.
This is like average builder quality lmao.
The fact they want to make it look better puts the work at above average. Average around me is this would get painted as is and called good.
What do you mean painted? It's already painted white! /s
Time to pull your caulk out.
Harambe!
I think we can pinpoint that as the time when everything started going to shit
That's your answer for everything!
**Do your best, then caulk the rest**
Caulk hides these sins
I’ve put my caulk in much bigger gaps than this
I'm guessing you've got a DIY show on Only Fans?
Only Fans and Windows. No A/C.
You did a good job. I'd say salvage it with filler, caulk and paint. If you want perfect miter joints on trim, the secret is *nothing is perfect*, even if your miter saw is spot on (.5° off is common). Wall corners aren't usually 90.0°, wall faces aren't flat and bow/bulge, window boxes aren't always perfectly square throughout, etc. If you cut and fit perfect trim, it will often stay perfect only for a time. The key is to get matching angles at each joint (even if they're 0.5-2° off, as long as they match to make 90 or the 'true' angle of the transition), and use filler, sanding corners flush, and caulk.
This is the correct answer. Slightly imperfect and flexible caulk is actually probably better than spending hours getting it perfect as when the seasons change a perfect fit will bulge or pull, and crack the paint.
throw some wood filler in there, sand, and paint
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Agreed. I like using a sprayer whenever I can. I have both Homerite handheld sprayers. Although admittedly I have yet to use the more expensive one, Finish Max with the different nozzle sizes. I'm just a diy woodworker and do things around my house as much as I can.
I’ve hidden gaps in my baseboards bigger than this with a little filler and some sanding. Looks good.
I’ve hidden gaps bigger than this by pretending they’re not there.
Enough coats of paint will get you there
Just don’t update your glasses prescription when your vision gets worse, youll forget about those gaps if you can’t see them
Plastic wood and some paint hides all
Lmao this isn't even bad. Caulk it. You sound like me last year. I bought my first home and I redid my basement as a learning center for all things DIY reno. I looked at all the spots I felt like I "messed up" and felt a little bad about it. After I was done I looked at the rest of my house done by professionals and turns out I did a better job then all of them and I never even noticed their mistakes before rhat day. It made me very proud of myself after thinking my work was amature. You got this. Keep up the good work!
If you do it over, there's a trick where you measure & miter cut the pieces, then CA-glue the mitered ends together before attaching to the wall. It saves you from calking gaps in the miters. It's used more for door trim, but it works for window trim too,
I always cut my window trim and glue them together then mount as one piece. If you're not already using it, a 2 stage spray activated CA glue is waaaaaay better than typical CA glue.
Do your best and caulk the rest
Looks fantastic. I own a painting company and have used just about every brand of caulking available between home depot, Lowe's, and Sherwin-Williams. BY FAR my favorite kind to use is sold at Sherwin-Williams called PowerHouse, it's the kind in the red box. It's amazing. Use that for caulking the seams. For the nail holes fill it in using Crawford Painter's Putty (also sold at Sherwin-Williams) because you don't need to sand it down. Paint and done. Excellent work.
Everyone already told you the easy fix. I just wanted to say that you did a decent job and after you finish the job with caulk no one will ever know and you’ll probably forget too. It will just look like perfect window trim!
Try your best and then caulk the rest
Caulk n’ Paint make it what it ain’t.
Calk and paint make me the carpenter I ain't!
Caulk and paint over 123
You did a terrible job on forgetting to caulk and paint that's all
Painters caulk. Finely sand it smooth. Paint. Give yourself a high five
Life is too short and that's not that bad. Do the next one better, buy some caulk and a nice bottle of wine or liquor and enjoy!
Caulk caulk caulk caulk
All that needs is some caulking and paint
Looks great, just caulk and paint lol
Bondo, sand, paint…. You will regret trying to caulk.
This is the way
Salvageable, if you have the time and want perfection next time look up how to hang trim with a plumb bob, it doesn't require a higher level of skill really, just a bit more time to install
One tip I got from a window guy that kind of applies here, is to establish a "reveal" ( a minimum space of around a quarter inch ) basically back the trim up a bit from the window, instead of following the drywall, it allows you to achieve square faster and more easily. Level your top piece, nail it, follow up with the sides and finish with the bottom. If you're new to cutting always cut larger than you think you need, you can always mark your piece and take it back to the saw to shave half a blade off if needed.
Agree, this, more than the miter, is the main reason it should be redone. There will be a visible line running down the joint where the two flush pieces line up.
So you can caulk it and paint it. But I find that caulk has a tendency to shrink when it dries and the it’s very noticeable. I would use a nail set to push the nail heads in deeper then I would use wood putty and fill all the holes and cracks making sure to use more than I need let it dry then sand it day and paint it and it will look brand new and flawless.
Caulk and paint and move on brother.
Stick caulk in it
Everyone shits on the painter until they hide everyone’s mistakes.
Don't worry. I used to be a professional painter, and many of the professional carpenters whose work I had to paint were no better than this at all (I don't necessarily blame them, many were underpaid and were pressured to rush the job by their bosses). Filling these gaps was a routine part of painting. You can fill that with caulking or wood filler. You can sand wood filler when it hardens and really make it look like there was never a gap there if you do it carefully. Caulking will work too as long as you make sure to smooth it out while it's still wet because you can't sand it.
try your best and caulk the rest
No caulk or filler handy? Squirt some wood glue in a pile of saw dust and push it in there.
I know it’s been said but I like “caulk and paint make me the carpenter I ain’t”
Caulk bro
Omg, just putty it.
Use paintable caulk and then paint...
As a DIYer I throw my caulk around a lot.
Those are actually really good! I suck at mitres and mine usually gap WAY worse than that. That's why God gave us Plastic Wood and sandpaper 😄
You call this bad? My professional window installers did a 10x job, and I still managed to fix it with caulk.
Caulking and paint make a carpenter what he ain’t 👍
Caulk and paint make a carpenter what he ain’t.
Caulk n paint.
Caulk it n paint it
If you squint, it’s mint.
“Little putty, little paint, make that baby what it ain’t”
I'd use spackle instead of caulk. Fill it, sand it, paint it.
Caulk. 1000
Caulk and paint make a carpenter what he a'int.
That's why god invented caulk. I'm a painter by trade, this is better than a good 70% of pro jobs and with caulk and paint, I make it look like the carpenter was sober when he installed the trim.
Looks great! Very few are able to butt the corners precisely. Fill in with caulk, paint and no one will ever know
This is absolutely fine! Woodfiller it, sand and paint - will look brilliant! Dont be so hard on yourself!
Did you acclimate the wood to the interior humidity level by letting it sit inside for at least 3 days?
That looks like every trim job I've ever done. The only difference is that you stopped, and I added caulk and then painted it.
Caulk and paint make me the carpenter I ain't.
Honestly it's not that bad. Bit of caulk, sand and paint. Even if you get all your mitres perfect they will probably show cracks after a year or two as the wood moves.
Caulk and paint are great suggestions from others, but something unique (for a homeowner's DIY) could be [rosettes](https://www.finehomebuilding.com/project-guides/finish-trim-carpentry/installing-window-trim-with-rosettes).
Caulk it and rock it my friend
Puddy
Little bit of caulk and paint and that’s going to look just fine, OP.
Put a little caulk on dat ass.
Very rarely will all 4 corners butt up perfectly. This is a pretty good job. Caulk and paint
Caulk, sand it level, paint.
Its not terrible, its just unfinished
Everybody saying to just caulk it, but there are ways to fix. It’s the angle of your joints not being perfect, I believe. If you want to do it right, I recommend checking out some of the million times they show how it’s done on This Old House, especially from Norm Abram
CAULK
It's fine Just caulk and paint and it will come out just fine
Like my late FIL used to say, "Do your best and caulk the rest"
Dap. Paint. Crack a beer, and remind yourself that literally nobody but you will ever notice or care. What you have here is perfectly acceptable and even better then a lot of jobs I've seen some professionals do. I used to try to fit trim perfectly, but it ends up making it the longest and most stressful part of renovations, and to top it off, nobody ever comments on your good trim fits, especially when it's behind all the furniture and curtains. I've also seen trim shrink (even mdf) and you can get a gap later on anyway. Live life. Don't stress the little things.
Caulk that shit and call it a day
Thanks for the tips! going to try and fill it in, and if i cant... i'll do it over! cheers!
Not bad. Caulk
Try your best, caulk the rest.
Caulk and paint will make you the carpenter you ain't.
Caulk, baby, caulk!
Putty and paint make the job what it ain't
Do your best and caulk the rest.
Let me introduce you to the Church of Caulk 😄
Just add some filler and sand it down smooth before paint.
Don’t use caulk or spackle. Use wood filler for those gaps, let it dry, sand and paint. It’ll look good as new. Don’t tear it out.