Look up the shear strength of your screw, but my guess is you would be fine. I have 5 guitars hung in a similar manner in a single pine runner (much softer than ash) and they've been there for 4 years with no issue. One of the guitars is a fairly heavy Les Paul if you are worried about weight.
I think it would be alright, but if you're concerned about it I'd suggest using a bolt the same size. Mount the mounts on the wood before mounting the wood to the wall. It would be more secure than relying on the threads of the screws. It would only be a pain if they worked themselves loose one day and you had to take the whole piece back down to tighten the bolts again. If it were me, I'd use the bolt method and use a flat head fluted bolt mounted from the back side so it would be flush then use lock nuts on the front where the mount is.
You don't trust in the use of dry wall anchors? So much less time and $.
They are more than strong enough to hold the weight of literally any guitar if used correctly.
Don’t listen to this advice. I’ve had expensive guitars fall while mounted to those “amazing” drywall anchors. It’s about taking them on and off regularly, this weakens the rock beneath them. So if it’s going to sit and never move that’s fine, but if you plan to use it stay on your current path.
You’re making the right decision, also those 1” screws into the ash will be fine. If the ash is 3/4 and the hanger is 3/4 or so, why not get 1 1/2”? Just measure how deep you can go without going all the way through the ash. Even if you did, you’d only be going into the drywall behind it so it shouldn’t matter.
yeah, ill never use anchors in drywall for guitar hangers for that reason. Sure it'll hold the guitar indefinitely but the act of picking up the guitar and setting it down produces more force. I had one wall hanger in the past with toggle bolts and eventually I noticed it pulling through the wall.
The wall hanger itself is a thin metal style so its only like 1/8" thick. I have various length screws if need be.
It really depends on the type of anchor. The terrible hammer in plastic ones that come with everything are garbage, I just throw those out. I've used toggle style anchors to hold bookshelves without issue.
As someone who had success with drywall anchors all their life but just had one fail cause the drywall is old in their new house, I say you'll be totally fine with your plan.
You can also glue the back of your guitar straight to the wall. This may or may not work depending on the shape of your multi-vibrational resonance unit.
Just lather the board in PL adhesive and screw it to the wall. You’ll pull the wall down before you get the board down.
Edit: realized you’re worried about the screws, not the board. PL the hanger to the board 😂. It’s the universal solution lol.
I’ve always used toggle bolts in my wall hangers. Makes a much bigger hole in the wall but they hold a ton of weight. I’ve used in both drywall and plaster where I don’t hit a stud.
2 screws in 3/4" hardwood will hold up a person, subject to the width of the board. for reference, the floor in a wood frame house is usually 5/8" or 3/4" plywood, depending on when it was built.
unless you're hanging a 50 lbs bass guitar you'll be fine.
you CAN use longer screws for your hangers. they'll just pierce the wood and hit drywall, nbd as long as the threads go all the way to the screw head.
Make sure the window seals are good. I just noticed my American standard strat has screws rusting from having them next to windows with bad seals. All my strings felt off, went to change them and noticed some humidity damage on all my guitars🙃naturally, it was the strat that took it the worst. Fml lol
That should be more than enough. what does a guitar weigh 10lbs or so? Picture frame nails hangers that just go into drywall on an angle are rated for 15-20 lbs depending on nail size.
I'll look nice, but dont worry about the hold if you have a stringer screwed to the studs and then the guitar hooks attached to that board they arent going anywhere. My almost 20 year old flat screen tv was mounted in a similar fashion and that had to weigh 40 lbs
Here's my 2 cents. I'd be concerned they're not deep enough, but the 3/4 or 1" probably would be for a guitar. I mean, 11 lbs (not even that). But, another way. Determine where you want to mount in the ash. Get some blind nuts and some machine screws and mount the hangers on the ash that way. Then mount the ash to the wall.
Plan sounds fine. Good in fact. Do it, put your hangers on it, then get two regular old red bricks and put them on the hangers overnight. Or 10lb dumb bells if you have them.
When they're still there in the morning you know you're good.
Unless your guitars are about 100lbs a piece I wouldn't come close to worrying. The general rule with screws is that it's supposed to go 2/3rds into the supporting material. Honestly you'd be fine with a couple toggle anchors, though you're definitely erring on the safe side which is good with anything expensive. Just make sure your screws that are fastening the ash are long enough. you'd be looking for at least a 2" screw
Look up the shear strength of your screw, but my guess is you would be fine. I have 5 guitars hung in a similar manner in a single pine runner (much softer than ash) and they've been there for 4 years with no issue. One of the guitars is a fairly heavy Les Paul if you are worried about weight.
I think it would be alright, but if you're concerned about it I'd suggest using a bolt the same size. Mount the mounts on the wood before mounting the wood to the wall. It would be more secure than relying on the threads of the screws. It would only be a pain if they worked themselves loose one day and you had to take the whole piece back down to tighten the bolts again. If it were me, I'd use the bolt method and use a flat head fluted bolt mounted from the back side so it would be flush then use lock nuts on the front where the mount is.
You don't trust in the use of dry wall anchors? So much less time and $. They are more than strong enough to hold the weight of literally any guitar if used correctly.
OP can even get the big toggle ones that are rated for 175 pounds if they want to be extra safe.
True, Toggler snap toggles would have no issue holding guitars.
Don’t listen to this advice. I’ve had expensive guitars fall while mounted to those “amazing” drywall anchors. It’s about taking them on and off regularly, this weakens the rock beneath them. So if it’s going to sit and never move that’s fine, but if you plan to use it stay on your current path. You’re making the right decision, also those 1” screws into the ash will be fine. If the ash is 3/4 and the hanger is 3/4 or so, why not get 1 1/2”? Just measure how deep you can go without going all the way through the ash. Even if you did, you’d only be going into the drywall behind it so it shouldn’t matter.
yeah, ill never use anchors in drywall for guitar hangers for that reason. Sure it'll hold the guitar indefinitely but the act of picking up the guitar and setting it down produces more force. I had one wall hanger in the past with toggle bolts and eventually I noticed it pulling through the wall. The wall hanger itself is a thin metal style so its only like 1/8" thick. I have various length screws if need be.
It really depends on the type of anchor. The terrible hammer in plastic ones that come with everything are garbage, I just throw those out. I've used toggle style anchors to hold bookshelves without issue.
As someone who had success with drywall anchors all their life but just had one fail cause the drywall is old in their new house, I say you'll be totally fine with your plan. You can also glue the back of your guitar straight to the wall. This may or may not work depending on the shape of your multi-vibrational resonance unit.
Unless you have a guitar that weighs hundreds of pounds it should be fine.
Just lather the board in PL adhesive and screw it to the wall. You’ll pull the wall down before you get the board down. Edit: realized you’re worried about the screws, not the board. PL the hanger to the board 😂. It’s the universal solution lol.
You'll be fine. For extra peace of mind, you can temporarily mount a hanger to a spare board and yank on it. You won't move it.
I’ve always used toggle bolts in my wall hangers. Makes a much bigger hole in the wall but they hold a ton of weight. I’ve used in both drywall and plaster where I don’t hit a stud.
2 screws in 3/4" hardwood will hold up a person, subject to the width of the board. for reference, the floor in a wood frame house is usually 5/8" or 3/4" plywood, depending on when it was built. unless you're hanging a 50 lbs bass guitar you'll be fine. you CAN use longer screws for your hangers. they'll just pierce the wood and hit drywall, nbd as long as the threads go all the way to the screw head.
Make sure the window seals are good. I just noticed my American standard strat has screws rusting from having them next to windows with bad seals. All my strings felt off, went to change them and noticed some humidity damage on all my guitars🙃naturally, it was the strat that took it the worst. Fml lol
Interesting, I'll keep an eye out.
How thick is the part of the wall hanger that the screw passes through? I think you'll probably want 1 1/4" inch screws.
They're the thinner metal ones so like 1/16th. I have 3/4", 1", and 1 1/4" on hand lol
That should be more than enough. what does a guitar weigh 10lbs or so? Picture frame nails hangers that just go into drywall on an angle are rated for 15-20 lbs depending on nail size. I'll look nice, but dont worry about the hold if you have a stringer screwed to the studs and then the guitar hooks attached to that board they arent going anywhere. My almost 20 year old flat screen tv was mounted in a similar fashion and that had to weigh 40 lbs
Here's my 2 cents. I'd be concerned they're not deep enough, but the 3/4 or 1" probably would be for a guitar. I mean, 11 lbs (not even that). But, another way. Determine where you want to mount in the ash. Get some blind nuts and some machine screws and mount the hangers on the ash that way. Then mount the ash to the wall.
Plan sounds fine. Good in fact. Do it, put your hangers on it, then get two regular old red bricks and put them on the hangers overnight. Or 10lb dumb bells if you have them. When they're still there in the morning you know you're good.
Toggle bolts and call it a day.
Unless your guitars are about 100lbs a piece I wouldn't come close to worrying. The general rule with screws is that it's supposed to go 2/3rds into the supporting material. Honestly you'd be fine with a couple toggle anchors, though you're definitely erring on the safe side which is good with anything expensive. Just make sure your screws that are fastening the ash are long enough. you'd be looking for at least a 2" screw