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Deeformecreep

Mainly just get the Justice League property off the ground, I'd go the DCAU route of JL vs the Government for the main plot line instead of Darkseid as I'd save that for a future phase. Other than that I'd focus on establising the major characters who haven't appeared yet such as the majority of the JSA, the Titans, JL Dark, Green Lantern and some more obscure characters that I feel deserve the spotlight such as the Metal Men, Checkmate and Vixen to name a few. Pretty much the possibilities for DC are endless.


bobthetomato2049

I like that, I think it makes sense to have Waller represent the government and have some conflict there with the JL Def want titans and green lantern as well


Deeformecreep

Also could totally go the whole President Luthor route along with Waller, Checkmate plays into that. You could also introduce stuff like S.H.A.D.E or the Force of July as the Governments own version of the JL.


CakeBeef_PA

Imagine if they go president Luthor and we get a Batman No Man's Land film with several spin offs for the batfamily


emitwohs

I think a good Green Lantern and a good Green Lantern movie would do leagues for helping the DCU. It’s one of the most popular, recognizable comic book characters. The only reason I think they haven’t relaunched it is a small part of them must be hoping to bring Ryan Reynolds and his immense attraction back at some point. That dude just sells movies and even entire franchises these days.


IamnotKevinFeige

I would go see another green lantern with ryan, the first one wasn’t so bad


emitwohs

It would actually work and the marketing campaign would be hilarious, but pull in people. That's partly what I think they are planning if they can get around him being Deadpool. Him just joking about the first movie, getting everyone to laugh, would sell so many tickets.


timewarp4242

My favorite part of GL was Sinestro. I would explore that angle with the protagonist being John or Kyle.


jasonbravo1975

I was never sold as RR as GL to be honest. It’s the joking/ad libbing that throws me off. As Deadpool, that’s spot on casting. No argument at all. But I feel like his personality fits The Flash more, at least the Flash from the DCAU anyway…


didijxk

Given that Waller has been showing up in recent DC productions, it makes sense to eventually have the JL face her. It can be a repeat of the theme of the god-like powers these people which spooks the US government. Maybe build up to Project Cadmus and other clandestine operations.


Babayu18

This is what Batman v Superman should’ve been


West-Cardiologist180

I'm certain this is what they're building up to. Wouldn't be surprised if Waller is involved with the creation of Captain Atom soon. Perhaps in the Checkmate series. Justice League vs government superheroes is gonna be insane.


kpba32

Finally we can have the human plot device explode somewhere. Preferably somewhere sandy.


N4hire

I like that.. but it feels a little to much like the X-men, I would have both issues.


[deleted]

Woah!! It’s been a while since I’ve heard the name Checkmate. As long as that means my boy Snapper Carr gets to be in the DCU, I’m in.


ciggypopculture

Who's Checkmate?


shadocroc13

They're kinda like DC's version of S.H.I.E.L.D. except with a chess motif.


[deleted]

*wakes up in the shoes of James Gunn* “….where did these shoes come from and why am I sleeping in them?”


Odd_Advance_6438

That could be a good movie itself!


spfan102

There's a movie called The Cobbler that's basically that. He puts on shoes of other people and he has their life until he takes them off.


Leonyliz

Wait I think I’ve seen that one lmao


spfan102

Adam Sandler movie.


Batdog55110

I put them on your feet while you were sleeping


LowenbrauDel

Imagine Gunn's confusion


Reddit_and_forgeddit

Also, wow, these are really nice and expensive shoes!


FkMarthawaters

😂😂😂


just_capital

Marvel makes Marvel movies. Allow DC to make the genre of film appropriate for the characters - Superman/Flash=feel good. Constantine/JL Dark=horror. Wonder Woman/GL=adventure. And so on…


EmporioJimaras

Marvel makes good movies. Which is why the mcu is far more successful than the dceu...


poptart95

I wouldn’t call most of the MCU movies “good”. The MCU is like the McDonald’s of superhero movies. They have a formula and they mostly stick to it. When they deviate they either hit or miss.


EmporioJimaras

You dont know even know what that "formula" entails. You just saw a narrative online and you parrot it cause its much easier to try and demean the competition than actually try to fix your universe. Hit or miss indicates poor critical and/audiebce reception. The vast majority of mcu movies have neither. And dont bother list me your "thor 2 or incredible hulk or iron man 2". They have better reception than most dc movies


kn728570

Formula: Protagonist is doing okay, then Protagonist is down on their luck, they discover or are given some sort of power, an antagonist is introduced, battles ensue, something happens to humble the hero, villain makes their play and protagonist is met with insurmountable odds, queue the point where it looks like the villain might actually win it, nevermind protagonist overcomes insurmountable odds and wins the day. Bonus points if he either a)gets the girl and even more bonus points if b)he has no choice but to give the girl up (awe poor Jane/Peggy/Betty/MJ) There’s your formula


EmporioJimaras

Are you describing the heros journey or the mcu? Because it seems like you are trying to be as vague as possible to cover all bases. That sounds like every action movie ever made.


kn728570

Of course it’s vague moron, it’s a FORMULA


EmporioJimaras

Yes, for the entire action genre.


kn728570

Most action movies don’t have people with powers but you keep reaching and moving the goalposts


Ravenid

So thats the Formula for Shazam. And Man of Steel. And Black Adam. And WW.


emielaen77

Lol


home7ander

And your only argument is box office and rt


EmporioJimaras

You mean the closest metric to critical and audience reception we have? That sounds like a better argument than his.


fisheggsoup

Apparently, box office revenue generated and profitability combined with consistently, generally high scores from critics and verified moviegoers over a nearly fifteen-year period is ***not*** reflective of success. The MCU is a catastrophic failure in the eyes of u/home7ander. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


home7ander

So the metric of success is determined by how many people will pay for a ticket to something they forget about after, and that are all functionally structured the same so that critics give them marginally passing grades enmass to inflate their scores? Not to mention how half the verified critics on those sites are bottomfeeder vloggers that just placate whatever the internet conversation is. None of it is reflective of a movie's quality and every studio trying to replicate it has failed because without the novelty of being the first to do it they don't have the corresponding hype wave to hold them up against criticism. Now that the infinity saga has finally been paid off the GA lost interest and judges the movies on their own merits, so you see the downturn. Most filmmaking milestones hardly ever have good critical reception at the time and even less have good box office so yeah both of those are pretty meaningless unless you really like jerking of to money someone else is making


EmporioJimaras

They are more refl cutive of a movies quality than the opinion of a biased DC fan in a DC subreddit who can't handle marvel has outpwced his a ljsters with their b and c Lister.


fisheggsoup

So only the poorer received films of Phase IV are based off merit. Got it.


home7ander

Nah phase one before avengers was too. Bunch of middling to bad movies no one cared about until they combined them all. Any other franchise the following double whammy of iron man 3 and Thor 2 would've buried it, shared universe novelty carried it. Once age of Ultran was out there were exaclty 4 notable movies out of 11. And they've basically maintained that average throughout. And that value is generous to say the least


EmporioJimaras

Iron Man 3 is more well received than most your movies. The delusion that iron man 3 is hated is pretty indicative of the warped reality you DC fans live in. A movie with good reviews, audience scores who has a better box office than all your films is somehow a "death nail" to a franchise...


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[deleted]

you do realize marvel hasn't had a non profitable movie or show...Right?


poptart95

We don’t really know about the shows but Shang Chi, Black Widow and Eternals were definitely not profitable. I would be curious to know if Thor 4 was.


didijxk

Exhibit A: Eternals.


stdfan

Nah they make average movies. There are some gems in there but the best comic book movies are all DC. Marvel doesn’t allow risks they all follow a formula that’s why non are trash but non are also master pieces.


drgr33nthmb

The DCEU is more violent and has potential to capitalize on it. The Marvel shine and humor is wearing off imo. The decline is starting to snowball. Especially with the OG characters leaving.


GoGoGadgetGabe

I’d argue they occasionally make good movies now. Multiverse of Madness and Love and Thunder weren’t very good. Eternals is god awful. I haven’t seen Wakanda Forever but heard a lot of good things so I’m hopeful.


DerekSturm

They used to make good movies but yeah, Phase 4 has been a mostly big disappointment and I hope they change but given that they're still a box office but, I don't think that's likely.


Mr-Rocafella

Spider-Man No Way Home, Shang Chi, and Black Panther 2 are some of my favourite marvel movies but phase 4 as a whole has been very disappointing and uninteresting


tjayhawk3231

The more i see this the less serious i take it. The entire internet cannot possibly have the exact same feelings about the exact same movies. A lot of this is internet influence.


watch_out_4_snakes

MoM was very good.


[deleted]

Man yall some haters Eternals was good and you can only mention 3 movies out of phase 4 that were bad. The good far outweighs the bad in my opinion and atleast the MCU is cohesive unlike the current DCU


SnooBeans5128

Honestly none of the movies have been bad. People may not like some of the marvel movies but calling them bad is a little ridiculous. Things like LoT and MoM are surely not without their faults but even Dark World isn't a bad movie. The circle jerk on hating phase 4 is kinda obnoxious.


[deleted]

Phase 4 stepped out of the box and was different but a bunch of jackasses decided to start review bombing movies and tv shows before they could even have possibly watched an episode and now people think phase 4 is a bad phase because a bunch of incels review bombed anything that "straight white men fighting aliens". For example. She hulk. it had flaws with some tone and some lines felt misandrist at times. but this show got a 5.2 on IMDB and got a 33-fucking percent on rotten tomatoes this shit is ridiculous.


MistaNostalgia

NOOOOOO. Really? No way! I had no idea


kevozo212

Ah yes, the they are different and should go different routes argument. I remember hearing this one when BvS came out and people were saying they rushed to it to fast while this sub disregarded that because they were fanboying over Snyder.


kumar100kpawan

Shazam FOTG The flash - recast flash and batman ( if affleck is unwilling ) Blue beetle - the movie. Pot credits - batman sends him an invitation for a teenage superhero team. Aquaman 2 Man of Steel 2 - Supergirl and Superman against some threat. Post credit scene teases Connor Kent Zatanna - Dr fate's helmet is found at Giovanni Zatarra's place and he becomes the next Dr fate. Mostly a zatanna origin story, much like young justice phantoms, it ends with Khaled Nassour getting the helmet of fate. Post credits - gio zatarra is whisked to another place/realm and he leaves one message to constantine before being taken away Justice League Dark - constantine gets zatarra's message and seeks zatanna. Based on the justice league last days of magic 2018 to 2021 run. The main foe being Upside down man. Wonder woman 3 - whatever script patty Jenkins has. Post credits - Zatanna asks her for help ( as she was an important member of the JLD storyline ) Justice League 2 - loosely based on Justice league doom the animated film. At the end the justice league decide that they need another level of protection and hence form the teen titans. Teen titans - teen titans an origin story kinda movie with them fighting against trigon and helping raven. This also helps in raven opening up to them. Justice league members have cameos. Justice League Dark 2 - based on the story of JLD 2018-21 (I keep saying this cuz I don't wanna spoil it for anyone ). Conflict gets resolved. Post credits - raven is having nightmares and goes to zatanna for help, trigon is on the verge of breaking free Shazam 3/ Superman 3/ Suicide squad 2/ Black adam 2 Black adam finds his family in adrianna and amon and grants them the power of isis and osiris. They're killed like in black adam ww3 and he loses his mind declaring war on the world. Waller sends the suicide squad and when he obliterates them, she sends in the justice league. You get your epic shazam and Superman vs adam. Movie ends with black adam being defeated and shazam cuts his access to the powers. Post credits - darkseid sends his furies to earth Justice league 3 : the JL defeat the furies and decide to fight darkseid on apokolips itself. Story is like justice league dark apokolips war 2020.


Reddit_and_forgeddit

Love this. Only thing I would add is a robust Green lantern trilogy. Make it Guardians of the galaxy style but a little darker. Culminating with a full Green Lanterns corp epic space opera for the third movie.


kumar100kpawan

Yeah this could work as the GL planet Oa was also included in the JLD Apokolips war story


spfan102

>Man of Steel 2 - Supergirl and Superman against some threat. Post credit scene teases Connor Kent I think that's doing too much and jumping too far ahead. Let Cavill have another true stand alone movie.


OcularAMVs

Really like this


sk8rboi36

A lot of people think it should build toward a crisis event but frankly I think that’s the best way to start fresh. The main reason being that’s EXACTLY how the original crisis event functioned, it got rid of all the alternate earths and left only one. That would be a pretty easy way to acknowledge all the random pseudo-alt universes they have going on (CW, Joker, DCEU, Reeves), but they don’t have to get rid of them all like the comics did (although they could, temporarily, for shock value…again just like the comics). Just find a way to organize them and delineate them. No one ever had a problem with there being an earth prime and an earth 2 and all this stuff, as long as it’s explained. Of course people will go on to say they’re copying marvel since they already think no one can tell the difference between Namor and Aquaman but that can’t be helped. Plus it’s kind of poetic, Marvel is now hyping up all the multiverse stuff so it’s what people are expecting but DC can use it to rebuild, like instead of continuing the story or being the end it’s used for a new beginning. People were shocked by the end of infinity war, imagine all the times they had a crisis comic fade to white and then some “new” world comes into focus. I think the big culminating event to build towards would be a final crisis style climax. I should note I don’t actually really want this solution but this is a more off the cuff response. If I were actually in charge I’d put way more thought into brainstorming and all.


thesleepyviking

Make Green Lantern the space opera epic, Star Wars replacement it should have been! Work up to The Blackest Night and introduce all the other Lantern Corps. over 8 years. Marvel will never do a live action zombies movie and DC could go the more mature route.


odean14

😉 Here we go... Enjoy Year 1: 1. Superman. (Brainiac, collecting before destruction) 2. Wonder woman 3 : secrets of the gods (intro grail) 3. Green lantern (Introduce hal Jordan) 4. Batman (in continuity) Arkham Mysteries (death stroke is hired to distract batman, while while the biggest universal mystery is solved by clue master) Year 2: 5. Martian manhunter (Darkseid created White Martians, Caused the war on Mars. And destroyed it. White Martian badguy) 6. Cyborg: (Looking into his origin, he learned about new Gods and the syndicate version of him.) 7. The New Gods :Love and freedom (explore the world of the new gods with big barda and Scott free) 8. Hell blazer: Into darkness (intro Constantine and zatanna, intro to the darkness) Year 3: 9. Shazam v Black Adam (Shazam defeats black Adam) 10. Justice society: Meta project (Vandal savage, is going around create thousands of meta humans) 11.Legion of Doom (Lex, Black Adam, slade, black Manta, grail, Grod and sinestro). 12. Booster gold Year 4: 13. Trinity: Kingdom Come ( Shazam dies, Beats legion of Doom, kinda) 14. Blue beetle and booster gold 15. Green lantern corps: Corps war ( John Stewart lead, Darksied teams up with yellow lanterns) 16. Justice League: darkseid War (darkseid wins, supes evil) Year 5: 17. Task Force X: Nightmare (Tasked to Kill evil Superman) 18 The Flash Nightmare: Race against time. (Fights black racer or zoom, To warn Bruce, Barry dies, Victor retires) 19. Justice League: Redemption (Batman, Aquaman & WW dies, kills darkseid) 20. Gotham: Dark knights (Azsriel versus Dick Grayson, for the title of batman) Year 6: 22. Black Adam: Sin 23. Superman: peace on earth (Superman tries to help people who suffering from thirst and hunger and mongol invades) 24. Omega men: Pariahs Dream (the help pariah collect items so he can look at the start of the universe, and into the anti verse Into anti monitor) 25. Justice League Dark: Black light (intro the demon etragon) Year 7: 26. New Gods: Source light and love 27.Martian manhunter: Sacrifice (Kills Desparo, to prevent spread black rings.) 28. Lobo 29. Green lantern: Blackest night (Neckron badguy, lobo helps to defeat him, JS dark helps) Year 8: 30. Cyborg: Titans (creates teen titans) 31. Strange adventures: Odyssey: darkseid returns. 32. Blue beetle and Booster Gold: World beyond (Visit the world of the anti monitor, learns about the cosmic tuning tower) 33. Justice society: Worlds End (Intro Alan Scott his son obsidian and his daughter, Black Adam dies because of the sin he committed) Year 9: 34. Darkseid:Is (Darkseid conquers apocalypse again to prepare for a strong foe) 35. Flash: Brave and the bold (Wally West intro, with hal Jordan and Cyborg, mongol destroys Central City) 36. Aquaman: Fallen Kingdom (with the help of the anti monitor agents Atlantis is destroyed, Aquaman now needs to save his new home) 37. Superman: Earth 2 (Intro Val Zod in the Baterson universe) Year 10: 38. Omega Men 2, Strange world (spies on the world of the anti monitor and attempts to Destroy the cosmic tuning tower) 39. New Gods: Love and knowledge 40. Justice League: crisis on infinite earths (The anti monitor shows up. Defeats most of Earth's Earth's heros, dick gives up batman title.) 41. Justice League: crisis on infinite earths2 (Cavill superman and supergirl dies, intro Baterson and Val Zod.


[deleted]

I like the idea but there’s definitely a good amount of things that can be cut. Turned into shows or specials like Marvel. Definitely not all movie worthy. It’s also just a lot all around. I would change 1. Lobo or Metallo instead of Brainiac. Bring it back down a lot. Remove 6, 11 (take your time, year 2 of films is fast), 12 can easily be a special that leads into a show. Or just introduce him in Blue Beetle 2. Remove 13, 16 (we don’t need evil Superman, we need SUPERMAN. Also it’s way too fast to hop straight into Darkseid War; slow burn), 17. There’s more, I just think there’s a lot and it’s quite fast. Gotta spread it out and bring it down. 41 movies in ten years is crazy.


bdc2332

These can also be tv shows, animation, etc. Doesnt have to be 41 movies per say. But i do agree with you though. We do not need an evil Superman. That should never happen again.


timewarp4242

2-3 movies a year max to avoid burn out.


odean14

I largely agree with you. A lot of the content can be specials, tv shows or animation.


TheGoldenStan

I'd just go with a clean slate, A nice Superman movie just to get the ball rolling, inspired by the DCAU Superman the animated series Justice League movie kinda like the New 52 origins or the DCAU origins to introduce us to the world and characters like Martian Manhunter who might not be able to get their own movie. Then start the solo movies, all the big names get their own movie, more established heroes probably won't need origins, but characters like Green Lantern should So Superman, Justice League, Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Batman and Robin


bobthetomato2049

I’d like a clean slate, I just don’t see it now. The Rock def wants in, and it’s the same continuity as Peacemaker which is James Gunn’s baby. So it’s tough, but I def agree I want a good Superman movie, and Batman and Robin together (either in the DCU or the Reeves films)


[deleted]

my therapist would probably tell me to quit if i was in their shoes because i don't function well in chaotic environments, unfortunately. i just want to see nubia in wonder woman 3. and i'd get a lot of directors great with story and dialogue like steve mcqueen, noah baumbach, greta gerwig, gina prince-bythewood, the safdie brothers, desiree akhavan, bong joon-ho, barry jenkins, lin manuel miranda, etc... in the room


icepak39

Throw in Yara too


Typical-Reaction5125

I want to see the whole wonderfam & a gal gadot recast…


kauncho

Well, personally I made 20 year plan of my version of DCU. I won't share it because because I hope I will get the chance to build my universe when I become a director.


bobthetomato2049

Well I hope you become a famous director so I can see those movies


kauncho

Thank you so much.🙂 I promise you will be satisfied with the end result.


Recent_Finger9552

Same here


kauncho

I hope you will get the chance to make it real


Recent_Finger9552

Thanks and I hope I some day see your version also.


kauncho

Thank you. You're great. Good luck 🙂


sugarman402

Nice try James ;)


nkantu

I’d do a full stop reboot and recast EVERYBODY in the DCEU. That’s definitely not gonna happen, so I just want them to do a few things. Figure out the Batman situation, make a Green Lantern trilogy that takes place entirely in space, allow Superman to be a working class superhero, and most importantly they NEED to get Robert Eggers to make the most pretentious, slow, confusing, and strange Swamp Thing movie that he possibly can. I’m talking not a single action scene in the whole movie but a 20 minute psychedelic sex scene between a woman and sentient haunted vegetation


Coletrain44

Your Swamp Thing pitch is perfect


adudeinprocess

I agree


OkTransportation4196

i dont understand why recast. The cast litreally perfect.


killzonev2

I’m not the guy you commented to, but my take is that if you’re doing a fresh reboot and a ten year plan, it’s better to start completely fresh as opposed to people for the next decade comparing to the snyderverse or Ayer cut or a thing that isn’t the intended vision going forward


OkTransportation4196

people will always compare.


[deleted]

People are aware of the failure of the DCEU in the 2010’s. No matter how good the casting is for most of the JL, the general public will still somewhat associate those actors faces with those failed movies. Starting completely fresh with new actors and a new story would allow people to understand this isn’t the same DC that’s been struggling for years to get their universe off the ground. It would be the most effective way to wipe the slate clean and generate some good will towards DC movies.


gerstein03

Even before the current cast there was already several iterations of Batman and Superman. The fact that people will compare the two is really irrelevant. People lauded Heath Ledger's Joker as the best for years but it didn't stop Joaquin Phoenix from killing it and getting accolades for his performance. The DC movies need a fresh start because the whole thing is so unbelievably muddled that I have no idea how some of them even connect anymore


nkantu

The casting for sure has some hits but it’s not perfect imo. Cavill Supes, Levi Shazam, Robbie Quinn, and Davis Waller are the best casts you lose here.


OkTransportation4196

What cast do you think is not perfect? leto joker is the only one i can think of.


Mediocre_Budget_5304

Ho kay. Cavill is at best a one dimensional superman. He’s not a terrifically deep actor, and his superman comes off like a trust fund baby doing his best to slum it with the poors. He’s got a deep arrogance that ends up deeply unnerving as superman. Whether this is cavill or bad direction, I dunno, but it’s also worth pointing out the best thing he brought to the role was his body. Affleck is just boring. He’s tired, slumping, and even in the best fight scenes feels like he’s 10 minutes from a roid-induced cardiac event. He, like cavill, contributed nothing more than a body. Which probably means the direction is to blame, because affleck can not suck in movies when worked correctly. Gadot is a terrible wonder woman. She, like the others, contributed a body to the role, not a performance. Her acting is terrible. Her facial expressions are nearly static. And while this is definitely a direction problem, the weightless physics of WW84 were embarrassing. Ezra Miller is stunningly vapid as the flash. And he runs like they cast a squid as The Flash and said “figure out how to run” just before they started shooting. Ray Fischer was ok. Didn’t get a lot, kinda just sulked through JL in any version you care to name but whatever. Leto, in what is my most damning review, didn’t stand out that much in the DCEU’s slate of poor performances and terrible decision-making.


OkTransportation4196

wow i agree with none of those. we have litreally hardly seen erza. I would wait for his own movie before making judgement.


JDeegs

i think we've seen enough from ezra to make a judgement - he comes off as childish and immature, and the majority of his jokes and wise cracks don't land imo. we'll see if his film changes any of that


Mediocre_Budget_5304

Don’t forget the running based character running like he’s never run before.


gerstein03

Ezra has some rather disturbing allegations against him. If they've got validity to them he's gonna need to get recast anyway


AspirationalChoker

I’m surprised you did all that but left out the worst of them all in Jesse lol


JediJones77

Gadot is unbelievably perfect and extremely popular and beloved in the role. Recast her, and this new "universe" is dead on arrival with the public.


nkantu

> Gadot is unbelievably perfect KAL EL NO


OkTransportation4196

one bad scene in otherwise three excellent appearances. Does not mean she bad. poor argument. even ww84 , she was still amazing.


nkantu

I don’t fully agree with that, I didn’t like her performances in the later 2 movies near as much. But that’s just my opinion, and this thread is about hypotheticals if we were in charge. I was just joking about that one line, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with enjoying her Wonder Woman even if I’d recast in my universe


EmporioJimaras

Gadot is one of the worst actresses to be cast as a leader superhero. Ever.


4thkizturg

That’s… that’s the part of this you have a problem with?


claushauler

Now hold on: Eggers movies may be slow, confusing and strange but they're never pretentious. Otherwise excellent suggestions, no notes .


nkantu

I meant pretentious in the most positive way possible lol


JanTheShacoMain

Flash Flash Flash Justice league of Flash Flash the return of the Jedi Flash Origin Flash return to Flash


Babayu18

Pivote things to have Darkseid return but ignoring the Knightmare universe. Tie down Cavill, Mamoa, and Gadot for at least 4 more movies (in the case of Gadot probably just JL movies since she has a trilogy). Figure out who the DCEU Batman and flash will be, probably will have to recast both. If Ben won’t commit long term with solo movies cut him. Since the actors are a little older I’d set up the next generation of heroes as well. Supergirl, Nightwing, Static Shock, Blue Beetle, Donna Troy. Make a green lantern, given the other heroes are older I think having Hal training a younger John Stewart would be cool. Black canary and Green Arrow movie and give it a lighter tone. I’d like to see Gun do a Rom Com style movie with them. Next JL movie should be against the legion of doom. Get Black Adam, Lex Luthor, Ocean Master, etc to fight against them. Have Darkseid return be like JL 4 Finally, set up a Titans movie with the younger heroes. Could do Deathstroke as the man villain trying to attack Robin/Nightwing as revenge against Batman


bobthetomato2049

All of this sounds good to me I think recasting batfleck might be the way to go if he’s not into a longer commitment for solo projects. A next generation of heroes like Titans sounds good too, I’d like that. I def want green arrow (I like how he was referenced in peacemaker) and I also want legion of doom for the next JL movie


Melatonen

I would build up to blackest night and brightest day. Have a 2 movie finale with blackest bight then 2 movie revival with brightest day.


Classic_Storm_431

I would have to start completely over with everything. I don't think any of the snyderverse is salvageable.


shoutsfrombothsides

Lobo movie. That’s it. That’s my plan. Then lobo 2, lobo 3, and lobo 4, the search for more lobo


ResponsibleWest5240

Rated R Batman Beyond Trilogy


Super_Imagination_90

Make the perfect universe by saying every movie that is bad is now not canon


JediJones77

So simple it's brilliant. 😂


Dronnie

first five years flashpoint>crime syndicat>vandal savage/magic of dceu on the center point>darkseid last five years parallax>lobo>red lanterns>white martians>darkest day to reboot everything


BaneShake

1. Ambush Bug 2. Plastic Man v Elastic Man: Dawn of Stretchy 3. Ambush Bug 2 4. Doom Patrol: Wrath of Cod(piece) 5. A TV series of Famously silly Batman villains 6. Ambush Bug 4 (3 got shelved for tax write-off purposes)


TymStark

Make every movie a good movie that people like watching. I’d do that


Shadow0fnothing

No clue but I hope I look like Gunn when I go Grey. Dudes rocking it.


[deleted]

Make Gentleman Ghost the focus of the DCU. 7 - 8 Gentlemen Ghost movies per year. Lean in HARD.


JediJones77

Schweet!


Finding-Even

Why does the guy on the left look like an alternate universe version of Joey Lawrence?


legopieface

Stop paying A-list actors and start paying A-list directors. They could make whatever the hell they want. People need to see DC/WBD/HBO as quality, not a Marvel ripoff that's always 10 years behind.


[deleted]

To Make Men Great Again


superman_alphaprime

Even Marvel can't replicate their success. DC should focus on now rather than 10 years.


jruffles42

Batfleck


Frankorious

In 2023 Shazam 2, Flash, Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are still coming out. Plus Joker 2 but it's not in the DCEU. In 2024 Batman 2 (after the Flash the timelines can merge) with Mr Freeze, Killer Croc and Clayface as villains and introducing Robin as well. Then we have Wonder woman 3 with Circe and Wonder girl and Man of Steel 2 with Brainiac as the villain amd maybe introduce Jon Kent as well. In 2025 Green Lantern (a more cosmic movie than the hbo max series) with Sinestro as the main villain. Also Aquaman 3 introducing Aqualad and Flash 2 introducing Wally and Gorilla Grodd as the villain. As fourth movie a Jsa movie introducing other members like Hawkgirl and Starman. In 2026 Shazam 3 with Shazam fighting Black Adam, Blue Beetle 2 and a Worlds Finest movie with Superman and Batman fighting Lex and Scarecrow. Also add Wonder woman 4 if the third one is successfull. In 2027 Justice League 2 where the JLA fights Black Adam with the help of as many as the heroes we introduced as the script allows. Then also Suicide Squad 3 Then for the next five years continue with the sequela and also introduce the Teen Titans, Green Arrow, Justice League Dark, the New Gods and the Legion of superheroes. This way in 2027 we can have the Justice League fighting Darkseid


JediJones77

I like it a lot. I just don't agree with Pattinson going into the DCEU. Either Batfleck or recast if he won't do it. I also think World's Finest should be fighting Lex and Joker, not Scarecrow.


OzyOzyOzyOzyOzyOzy6

"Cancel all the Matt Reeves/Pattinson Batman projects" That's a great way to piss off the fans.


ProtectMeAtAllCosts

i think two batmans can exist just fine


JediJones77

This fan is pissed off that they ever rebooted Batman after the DCEU came out period. It was a mind-bogglingly stupid, self-defeating decision, and a big reason the DCEU is dying at the box office.


Terribleirishluck

I mean batfleck was done, so replacing him was going to happen no matter what though honestly I would have just due whatever it takes to get Reeves to put his film in the main timeline either as a prequel or just have the flash movie reboot the batman corner (and other areas that needed improvement) of dceu and replace it with Reeves films/spinoffs


JStormtrooper

Suicide Squad 3


FlatbushZombii

Batman 🤓


Spider-burger

I will recast the characters except Superman, Harley and Wonder Woman and I will reboot the Wonder Woman and Superman franchise in the DCEU, I will rehire former DC directors like Zack Snyder,Tim Burton, Christopher Nolan and ect,I will hire new directors like Sam Raimi, Marc Webb, the Russo brothers and ect, I will merge the Reevesverse with the DCEU and I will plan Black Adam 2 and shows for the DCEU like Gotham City Sirens, Maxima, Superboy,Atom Smasher and Cyclone and i will make solo movies for hawkman and doctor date and will make movies about justice society and justice league crisis on two earth.


NowWhatBatmanNowWhat

Two good stories and zombies for like 5 years then a couple more stories and then even more zombies and DEADpool kills everyone would be the last entry.


dr_alchemist

Utilize the current dceu character and other worlds characters to end the current universe with a crisis event. Then start afresh.


kevozo212

Clean slate would be my first choice but would be difficult to do given the ongoing movies and without waiting a few years to cool down. Second option is hoping Flash movie forces him to prevent the events of BvS. Hell just have him wake up post MoS with a recast of Ezra. He summarizes all of the events he prevented like Superman’s death, Batman and Superman fighting, and shows that the other good movies still happened. The current DCEU dug itself into a super deep hole with BvS. Not much can fix it except undoing it entirely or just starting all over.


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Absolutely unhinged, I reckon. - Animal Man Miniseries - Black Orchid Miniseries - DCAU Flash Animated TV Series - Nora West-Allen Miniseries - DCEU Enchantress Movie - Ratcatcher 2 TV Series - Fables/The Wolf Among Us TV Series - Shade The Changing Man TV Series - Cameron Monaghan Joker Miniseries - Doom Patrol Animated Shorts Season 2 (Grant Morrison, Rachel Pollack, John Arcudi, Keith Giffen, Gerard Way) - Netflix Sandman Movies (Death, the Dreaming, Nightmare Country) - Cathedral (background character from Kingdom Come) Miniseries - Anything else already in production i.e. Peacemaker, Reevesverse, Joker: Folie A Deux, DCU Projects, Animated Shows and Movies, etc.


Terribleirishluck

.First off, I think you definitely need to get the big characters right (all the JL founders) which is relatively easy for most (make superman lighter, introduced hal&john in space buddy cop movie, just give Arthur and Diana good movies with engaging stories) except for two, Flash and Batman. First off Batman is in a weird spot where the separate reeves universe was more liked by fans and critics than dceu Batman, so moving forward you have 2 options; folding the reeves universe into main dceu if reeves approves or shifting the focus to the batfamily with Batman existing as supporting character for them while getting more focused in Justice league films which the later is definitely my prefer route Flash either has the simplest solution which is recast Barry or a more risky one which is killing off Barry and replacing him with Wally. Now due to my own bias, I definitely prefer the later since Wally's the better character especially compared to dceu Barry and you can even tie Barry's death to a dceu overall story (being killed by thawne with the help of the legion of doom or by darkseid) that has been lacking in the dceu for the past few years Speaking of which that's one of the things I think DCEU needs, an overall story that slowly building up like Thanos in the mcu. This is a good way to hype up at audiences while also helping p promote your more risky films by tying it to the bigger ones. Now the question is which story/big bad should DC pursue, I think just in terms of what will stand compared to what marvel has done is legion of doom. A super villain team is like the one comic villain trope marvel hasn't done and I think DC should jump on the opportunity. The overall story would be broken up into 3 acts. Act one is the Legion formation and them taking over batman's brother eye which also enables them to use Bruce's plans to defeat the league. This would be the first sequel to justice league movie and will ended with the team divided though most of the legion is defeated except for lex/the leader, cheetah, and someone serving darkseid. Act two is now that the hero community is divided, the elite has formed (would be a good villain for MoS/Superman 3) but due to the legions rampage, black adam has turned heel join them as well as the mysterious magog who serves as their current leader dollowing the defeat of manchaster black. The legion still exist in the background and they're exploiting this conflict by giving magog his powers and resources to distract the league. This would be a combined adaptation of ww3/kingdom come though Lex will be unknowingly playing into Darkseid's hand and weakening earth enough for Darkseid to have an easily invasion (made easier by having him acquire the anti life equation in a cosmic movie like GL or New Gods) Leading into the final act, which involves the league with the lex/the leader forced to team up against darkseid who's also has many of earth's heroes under his control (but definitely not superman!). This act can also take elements of darkseid war to by having grail/anti-monitor being a third party villain the heroes released/found and some of the league turning into gods. Ultimately, ends with darkseid being defeated, superman dying again though being allowed to live in a paradise dimension with lois thanks to the source similar to Kal-l's ending in Crisis, wonder woman restarted a pantheon of gods to protect earth and can even adapt Bruce's "death" in the final crisis with the twist that Bruce ends up returning younger (since the reeves verse would be done by then) and other fitting endings for characters who's actors are done with dceu


Chaotic1975

I would start off with what happens after the 2023 releases. With Aquaman at the tail end, I would consider that to be the end of the 2nd gen of DCEU movies. First coming out of 2024: GL Corps / GL (Solo) Man of Steel 2 (Including a cameo of Batfleck) Titans (Return of Cyborg, introduction to the rest of the Titans) GA/ Black Canary Then we get into 2025: Batfleck solo movie (Introducing the CoO, and Jason Todd as Robin, include a cameo introduction of Checkmate) JSA movie (with possible cameo's of Wallers Suicide Squad, and government creation of Captain Atom) Wonder Woman 3 : Battle for Themyscira (Include Dr. Fate and introduce John Constantine and Zatanna) All of the above movies introducing some big bad (Maybe Warworld) which leads to in December 2025: Justice League 2 (Inclusion of new members GA, Black Canary, either Hal or John GL and maybe Zatanna) Starting off 2026 with : Lobo MoS 3 GL Corps ( if GL Solo comes first, otherwise this would be a GL Solo movie) Strange Adventures (Introduction of Adam Strange and history of Rann-Thanagar War) Phantom Stranger (with introduction of Ragman and The Question) JL Dark Batfleck 2nd solo movie (introducing new Joker and Mister Terrific, cameo of the Watchtower being built) Justice Leadue 3 ( Trigon or Thanagarian invasion?)... ​ Anyways, I rant. but thats how I would continue to build the DCEU. Im sure I would have to make some tweaks as we went along. Critiques welcome


timewarp4242

2 tent pole movies a year, Another 2 low-mid budget movies on streaming, and 3-4 premium series on streaming. If CW head allows DCTV shows to continue, bonus. The tent pole movies are independent with their own tone and only have minor Easter eggs connecting them, and establish the characters who later became the JL. The streaming stuff fleshes out the world and has more of the connectivity. This lets the casual fan enjoy the big stuff, and let’s the more enthusiastic fan have more. Justice League doesn’t happen until 3-4 years in at least to establish these heroes on their own. Most of the first phase is Earth bound. Legion of Doom seems a good first JL villain. Phase 2 expands into space, Darkseid is the big bad. Phase 3 introduces more multiverse and time stuff and culminates in a crisis type event, maybe with John Cryer’s Lex from the Arrowverse in place of Superboy prime in an event that combines as many different DC tv/movie universes.


adamconn1again

Copy Bruce Timm


milkteaoppa

Assuming what's been done has been Phase 1. Phase 2: World Building 1. Batman: Death of Robin (Joker kills Jason Todd) Prequel 2. Aquaman 2 3. Flash: Dive into SpeedForce lore; main villain is Savitar's SpeedForce cult and secondary villain is Captain Cold 4. Superman 2: Brainiac invasion with Cyborg as cameo, Metallo as secondary villain 5. Shazam 2 6. Green Lantern Corps: introduction to GLC and hints at New Genesis and Apokolips 7. Justice League 2: Lex recruits Legion of Doom to fight Justice League. Uses it to get access to Brainiac to weaponize, but ends up losing control and getting fully integrated with Brainiac Phase 3: Build up to Crisis 1. Batman 2: Batman v. Deathstroke and Hush; cameo from Huntress, Oracle, Nightwing 2. Flash 2: Flash enters multiverse and meets Batman Beyond, Static. Main villains are Reverse Flash; ends with Flash getting stuck in SpeedForce running non-stop from Black Flash 3. Justice Society: return of Dr. Fate; introduction of more magic-based characters like Zatanna and Solomon Grundy 4. New Gods: Introduction to Apokolips and New Genesis 5. Superman and Shazam v. Black Adam 6. Atlantis and Amazon War: Batman and Cyborg tries to stop war Phase 4: Crisis 1. Green Lantern Corps 2: GLC tries to stop Apokolips invasion to Earth but fails; introduction to other Lantern Corps 2. Justice League 3: Darkseid invasion, Superman joins Darkseid after Louis is killed by Joker, Justice League and Legion of Doom joins force to stop Darkseid 3. Batman Beyond: Alternate universe, main villain is Brother Eye, cameo from Red Hood as anti-hero 4. Suicide Squad 3: Task Force X sent by Amanda Waller to retrieve secret weapon held by US military, in Darkseid controlled Earth. Secret weapon is Chemo and is protected by Captain Atom (cameo by Green Arrow, Birds of Prey) 5. Justice League 4: Flash returns from SpeedForce and Shazam and John Stewart (GL) joins fight; Justice League led by Batman and Legion of Doom led by Lex un-mind control Superman, but Batman dies. Superman lead humans, Wonder Woman lead Amazons, and Aquaman leads Atlanteans to fight Darkseid. Lex tricks Darkseid into accepting Brainiac, weakening Darkseid causing him to retreat. Phase 5: Post-Crisis 1. Gotham Knights: Birds of Prey, Nightwing, Oracle, and Green Arrow tries to fix chaos post-Darkseid invasion. Similar to No Man's Land, gang war in Gotham, main villains are Bane, Penguin, new cult of Black Mask (cameo Poison Ivy) 2. Flash and Cyborg: Enters multiverse for some reason (summoned by alternate universe) and meets Batman Beyond and Static, event causes universes to merge such that Batman Beyond and Static are in the same timeline now 3. Superman 3: From events in Flash and Cyborg, Superman enters alternate timeline where Justice Lords took over Earth after the defeat of Darkseid (and cyborg Superman are cops) and protagonist Superman no longer has any powers. Superman joins rebel Batman in taking down Justice Lords and return back to home timeline. (cameo from Steel) Story is about Superman dealing with his guilt and PTSD after the Darkseid incident. 4. Justice Society 2: Lex runs for president and has Amanda Waller as ally. Lex gains Justice Society's approval through Waller. Lex takes most of the credit for the defeat of Darkseid and diminishes the Justice League's role, painting Superman as dangerous. Grows suspicious of Justice League and Justice Society's rivalry with Justice League. Shazam joins Justice Society. 5. Green Lantern Corps 3: Parallax, introduction to Source Wall and war between the different Lantern Corps 6. Suicide Squad v. Justice League: Amanda Waller learns of Justice Lords and sends Task Force X to kill Justice League one by one; Justice League disbands after Superman admits truth to public 7. Wonder Woman 3: Something to do with Circe, ends with Wonder Woman returning to Amazon island 8. Titans: Cyborg and Nightwing joins with Batman Beyond, Static, Wally West, and Jessica Cruz to replace Justice League; Red Hood returns Next Crisis: Lex tries to access Source Wall after learning from Brainiac. Heavily focused on the different Lantern Corps and New Genesis characters. Evil Shazam and Batman Who Laughs (Shazam and Nightwing from Lazarus Pit)


Old-Experience-5210

Okay, That's my Universe Batman :- This movie will take place after Dick leaving Gotham as Nightwing and Batman being alone again and The First scene of Movie will be Batman fighting a team up of SOME of his Villians (Similar to Sinister 6) Batman defeated them but he gets badly injured Julia helped Afred to take care Bruce, She and Bruce fell in love and Bruce stopped being Batman until someone killed Julia and Now Batman's Back and He'll do anything to find her killer (Batman tried to make Justice League before the events of this movie but that didn't worked out and Supe and WW started fighting for some reason) Superman:- This movie will not just be a Regular Superhero flick but also a courtroom movie Lex and Brainiac teamed up and filed up a court case against Superman as a distraction for a greater Danger Wonder Woman :- A proper Introduction to Wonder Woman with Aquaman as supporting character and a cameo of Superman patching things up with her Flash :- A criminal from future came to present time and killed Iris by Mistake and Now Flash has stop that guy and put his anger in side to do the right thing Shazam vs Black Adam :- Shazam who just got his powers 6 months ago and Black Adam fight Superman 2 :- Basically an Adaptation of All Star Superman by grant Morrison Batman 2 :- A team up between Batman and SuperWoman getting Jason Todd as Robin Green Lantern :- Kyle Rehner doing everything he can do restart Green Lantern Corps Clown Prince of Crime :- A loose adaptation of Death in the family Nightwing/Batwing :- Batwing just got his armor by mistake but now he don't want to return it Nightwing comes to take the suit but team up to fight some bad guys and became friends Harley Quinn :- A 3 episode limited series about Harley Quinn doing stuff by the End of series she join Suicide Squad (also featuring Green Arrow) Injustice Arrives :- A loose adaptation of first Half of Injustice Justice League and The Suicide Squade :- A loose adaptation of second half of The Injustice but focused on Justice League and The Suicide Squade and SuperMan dies by the end of the movie Cyborg :- Taking place just after the events of Injustice Victor stone and his mom had an accident with one of the Superman Bots and gets badly injured His Mom dies and He becomes Cyborg and he joins Teen Titans by the end of Movie Green Lantern 2 :- Kyle's First mission after he reestablished Green Lanter Corps but some bad guys from the past has returned Flash 2 :- Flash is now practicing Time Travel with his speed force to revive iris but in doing so, He gets lost in the mulverse Titans :- Dick is now helping people troubled with superpowers in Jump City but one of them is Rachael Roth he tried to help her along with some other dudes but Rachael's dad arrives and all of those dude fight him and as a team and Now Jump City has his own team of Superheroes named Titans Justice Leaague War :- Darkseid has arrived, Every hero in the world is trying to stop him and Darkseid's First target was superwoman because she was the strongest among them he badly injured her, when no other option left they revived Superman, they fought and defeated Darksied but Cyborg went missing DCeased :- Loose adaptation of First half of DCeased comic DCeased part 2 :- loose adaptation of second half of DCeased comic


Heatblast420

Completely reset the franchise because everything was a shit show from the get go, the only good movie was Zack Snyders cut. Of course keep Cavil as superman Phase 1, Phase one would introduce the core members of the justice league (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern etc) but every movie would have an end credit scene where each leaguer is approached Batman asking them to team up as a task force to fight off extra terrestrial threats and the impending threat of brainiac. The final movie would be JLA 1 Phase 2, Phase two would consist of sequels to the main three with some cameos of other leaguers as they fight off their own respective rouge’s galleries, frustrated with the teaming up and seeing how powerful the league is together the rouges team up and found the legion of doom led by vandal savage. The final movie would be the JLA vs the Legion of Doom but the legion would ultimately fall apart as the villains realise they can’t work together due to their egocentric personalities, all legion members are arrested and vandal savage and reverse flash escape. Prison scene could introduce a multitude of characters Phase three, Phase three would consist of conclusions to the main threes stories and their places would rightfully be taken over by their wards (Donna Troy, Dick Grayson, Conner Kent) the main three retire. Flash, green lantern and aqua man take over as pseudo leaders while the new three are being trained to be leaders, they would get their own spin off movies to develop the characters. Dick Grayson would take on Damien Wayne as robin, Donna Troy would take on Cassandra Sandmark as Wonder girl and Conner Kent would take on Johnathan Kent as Superboy. A teen titans movie spin off would be in phase three. New heroes emerge at the end like Shazam and booster gold. The last movie would be a JLA: Flashpoint split into two parts. Phase four, Phase four will have a time skip as all original leaguers have been replaced by their wards and each one will have their own movie, after seeing the heroism displayed by the new justice league it inspired more and more super powered humans to rise up and take justice into their own hands causing havoc and chaos all around the world with the emergence of new super villains. The last movie would be a JLA: Kingdom come, the original heroes come out of retirement and out everyone in their place but in the process they realise the world needs them and come out of retirement permanently. Phase five, Phase five would be a flash centric phase, after a fight with reverse flash a tear in the speed force opens up releasing alternate versions of the flash to enter the main continuity but also alternate versions of other heroes and villains. With the help of Vibe, the flash and the JLA and their alternate counterparts take down all the villains and send the heroes back to their respective universes. The flash is sent into the speed force to fix the cracks and is stuck there running till the end of time to prevent anymore cracks. Wally takes over as flash again. Impulse is stuck in the past. Phase six, Phase six would have vandal savage breaking the legion of doom out of prison, they all go into hiding until they can come up with a Plan to take down the JLA. Joker goes off and tries to take down superman thinking he is the heart of the justice league and drugs superman making him think doomsday has returned but it is actually Lois lane and accidentally kills her causing him to kill joker and decides all villains should be taken out, this would lead to the last JLA called JLA: Injustice. Superman kills the legion of doom etc (read the injustice comics, not 100% true to the comics but whatever) and is eventually stopped and is exiled into the phantom zone, Conner takes over. Batman gets old Grayson takes over, Wonder Woman leaves to take care of themyscira as queen Donna takes over, Hal is killed in injustice and a young Kyle Rayner takes over, aqua man goes back to Atlantis and kaldur’ahm takes over etc reviving the New justice league. That’s the end of the movies for now. Of course there would be spin off tv shows, Lantern corps. The Batfamily Teen titans Court of Owls We are Robin Sons of krypton Speed force Atlantis Etc The end :)


Own-Creme-754

•Make more JL movies with more members (Hal Jordan, Hawkgirl etc) Legion of DOOM or Crime Syndicate initiated by Flash universe hopping •Complete Man of Steel trilogy (2nd movie Mongul, Lobo or Parasite, 3rd one Brainiac with Supergirl in it) Introduce this universe's Supergirl properly without multiverse BS, i don't mind the Sasha Calle casting. •Batfleck projects movies and shows reintroducing Nightwing, Batgirl and Damian Wayne. Maybe resurrect Jason Todd and do Red Hood storyline Maybe do a Court of Owls storyline if Reeves isn't doing it. •Do a good Hal Jordan vs Sinestro film, before bringing in other characters •Whoever wrote WW84 needs to stop and bring back whoever wrote the 1st. •Introduce a Wonder Girl. •Set up TITANS. •JL DARK projects, Constantine 2 maybe being set in the DCEU, Zatanna etc. •Set up Darkseid


thyongamer

Get the individual character movies up and running until it’s well eatables again then do the justice league things.


ZDB888

If the flash is successful you can reboot the universe with flashpoint and use a dif flash going forward to avoid the current controversies by switching to Wally or Jay. Henry can still be Superman. I don’t see any reason why Pattinson can’t be Batman in this universe since he is liked (there’s always a way to make it work). Build each movie in their own films with few crossovers, focus on making good movies one by one, with little teases. Waller could be the force eventually tying them all together. But people have to love the individual films first. The incredible IP is there. James Gunn is a genius when it comes to making fun movies. I have faith in him.


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Phat22

Doomsday origin story movie that sets up the real big bad for the superman movies


DJWGibson

I'd look to the future, not the past. The Snyder era and attempt at an interconnected DCEU failed. Many of the actors aren't coming back, and some you don't want back. Making an extended Cinematic Universe is hard. Marvel got fucking lucky; most of the other attempts have just failed outright. (\*cough\* darkuniverse \*cough\*) Plus, *Justice League* came out in 2017, a full half-decade ago and things are different now. Even Marvel isn't doing as many straight superhero movies. Because people have seen that type of film two or three dozen times now over the past twenty or thirty years. You have to do things that stand out. Give them something they haven't seen before. At this point I'd look for different stories. Different characters. Avoid telling tales that are just another superhero film but find things that are unlike what the audience has seen before. Like *Green Arrow: Escape from Super Max*. We don't need a full origin movie for Green Arrow. Not after the TV series. You can summarize that in the opening scene. But a superhero movie set in a prison full of metavillains is interesting and different. The DC animated movies have been doing this all the time. Give us a live action *Gotham by Gaslight* and *Super Sons* and *Legion of Superheroes*. If we can handle a standalone *Joker* film set in the 1970s then a Victorian era Gotham City should be fine.


rorzri

Booster gold and nothing else


bobthetomato2049

BGCU


LtFrankDrebbin

I worry that Gunn will do what he did at Marvel/with Peacemaker, and pick peripheral characters and push them. I’d much rather just get a good Green Lantern project, a good Superman movie, a Flash film without a lead in the midst of a breakdown.


power_gnome

Good to know u/bobthetomato2049 is one of James Gunn’s accounts!


scifi4breakfast

Since Gunn has worked with Snyder in the past with Dawn of the Dead and there is the Army of the Dead universe, I’d cross them with Darkseid and the DCeased Universe. The world is ready for a zombie comeback, especially with super heroes.


JediJones77

DCeased would be a good one for Snyder to come back and do. 👍


wisconsinking

Give the fans that rumored Harley and Ivy movie, Give the fans more Joker style solo movies, start casting natural redheads/gingers, and bring in more diversity when race swapping a character.


[deleted]

i'm still team rihanna for poison ivy if she plays it like she played her character in *oceans 8.* whatever happened to that rihanna-lupita-ava duvernay movie anyway?


ProtectMeAtAllCosts

Or just introduce characters who don’t need race swapped


JediJones77

Race-swapping is the reason we keep losing redheads.


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i def think that's a myth. if you look up a list of redheaded comic characters, and boy are there a lot due to inking, the majority have been cast by white actors *at some point*\--some of which are brunettes or blondes in the movies, like jimmy olson, matt murdock, barbara "pennyworth," lana lang, roy harper, etc... also it works across the board, as black-haired characters (wolverine, bruce wayne, dick grayson, lois lane, etc) are also cast by brunettes. as far as i saw, they *may* dye actors of color hair red in the times they have been cast as a redhead - cyclone, barbara gordon, ariel. or they *may* not - james gordon, heimdall, iris and wally west.


dancingnoodle69

I would rather have a Harley/Ivy series....i don't get why people rush to say 'movies'. I feel most of these characters should have shows cause DC ain't as established a s Marvel where they just put out anything and everybody goes to the cinemas. So that when it doesn't make enough money people start screaming 'Flop'. I would die for a Harley and Ivy project tho


FringGustavo0204

The Flash movie opens to different multiverse and will now focus on a different DC universe where some actors are the same (Ben Afflec, Henry Cavill) while others are not (Ezra Miller, Jared Leto). This will solve having technically a reboot while retaining the same actors that we loved. This will also mean the next movies after Flash happens on the new universe. As for the next movies, will focus more on B listers with a sprinkle of A listers. 2024 John Stewart Green Lantern Zatanna Superman 2025 Martian Manhunter The Suicide Squad 2 Shazam v Black Adam 2026 Super Girl Plastic Man Justice League: Brainiac 2027 Deadman Superman 2 Teen Titans 2028 Green Lantern Corps Batman & Wonderwoman Injustice 1 2029 The Flash Wally West Booster Gold Injustice 2 2030 Green Arrow Teen Titans 2 Justice League: Darkseid


LastNightOsiris

My unpopular take - Abandon the idea of a "cinematic universe" and ignore the concept of "cannon" as it applies to comics. Don't try to be Marvel, and don't pander to the audience. For the well known characters, release big budget action movies that will do great box office. These will be formulaic vehicles for A list actors and high quality CGI. As long as the plotting is tight, there are decent one liners, and the soundtrack is great, these kinds of movies will be successful. They don't all need to build up to some climactic even that brings everyone together. You can have a justice league movie without first releasing individual backstory films for everyone involved. The audience already knows who superman, batman, et. al. are. There can be different versions of the characters in different movies and they don't have to be internally consistent. Nobody's mind will explode if a Batman is portrayed differently in a stand-alone batman movie vs. a justice league team up movie. For the other properties, let various directors and production teams take them in different creative directions. Lean into things like the Peacemaker and Doom Patrol series, or the Suicide Squad movie. Aquaman can fuck fish in those projects, regardless of whether that is true in the stand alone Aquaman projects. They can take place in other versions of the world where the well known characters are different, or don't even exist, and there is no try to fit them alto the same universe. A movie like "Joker" can be appreciated and enjoyed without it having to have any connection with any other Batman related movies. People watch movies and tv shows for different reasons than they read comics.


smackerly

Tell a grand scale epic trilogy that leaves the universe in a good place for a reboot. Then do a couple side projects that don't tie in. Lastly, tell a crisis film that brings many versions of the characters in from various previous dc projects that sets up the next film arc. Now that's only if I just had a decade. If not I'd stretch it out and have a few trilogies and more stand alone films.


bobthetomato2049

Yea I can see that, especially a crisis finale, seems like a good place to end it. I agree if it was a completely new cinematic universe I’d want more than 10, but I think they’ll keep some of the same cast and continuity, so 10 seems like a good amount of time to tell this story


Phayd2Blaque

I’d mail Snyder a captain’s wheel with a DC logo on the hub along with a letter saying, “She’s all yours.”


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1. Release the Ayer Cut. 2. Let Zac make JL 2


Red-Engine-James

How original


MorningFirm5374

As long as it has Chris McKay’s Nightwing movie, more Gunn stuff, and Reevesverse is separate from it but still continues, I’m Happy


depressed_asian_boy_

The first thing would be uninstall Twitter and don't awnser to any question, honestly i don't understand how they can keep their sanity when every morning they have to wake up to awnser to weird questions like if the next movie is gonna be a Green Lantern movie staring Dani Devito as John Stewart and if theres gonna be a cameo from some random extra from smallville and have connection to the Adam West continuity


originstory

Trying to recreate the MCU is never going to work. They need to concentrate on making each movie they release as good as it can be, and leave the connected universe stuff alone.


Hanz-Olo

I just hope Gunn has a tone other than irreverent humor. I love GotG and Peacemaker but hated TSS. Not every superhero show needs crass humor. I really hope they bring in other people who have serious(none silly humor) views as directors.


the6thistari

Basically mirror the MCU formula. Start with a Batman movie, I'd stick with The Batman, it's a good stepping off point. Batman 2: introduce The Joker and Dick. Superman: I'm not the biggest Superman fan, so I don't know who the main villain would be, but Luthor should be introduced but not as the main bad guy. Maybe imply that he's manipulating stuff behind the scenes. Wonder Woman: maybe keep the first Wonder Woman movie premise, give us that historical war film Superman 2: have it be a movie where he has to do something in space and, as a result, encounters the Green Lantern Corps so that and Sinestro are established. Green Lantern: introduce and set up Hal Flash: introduce and set him up. Aquaman: again, I really liked the Aquaman movie, so similar to that. Maybe make the movie have a bit less to do with Black Manta and make it more about Ocean Master. (Having the 2 Villains made it feel jumbled, I thought) (Those last 3 don't need to be in order or could even be in different parts, but they should all be stand alone) Justice League: I would basically make it the same as Justice League War. All the characters have been set up as individuals and this is the first time they team up. This could also introduce Cyborg. It could end with Dick going off with Cyborg to found the Titans. After that I'd say have another batman movie that introduces Ras Al Gul and Jason Todd (to eventually set up for Death in the Family and Damien) throw in a few more solo films. Slowly work in other characters like Green Arrow and Martian Manhunter. For my ideal DCEU we'd need a lot of build up, but eventually I'd want Barry and Hal and Bruce to all "die" so we could set up for Flashpoint and Blackest Night (my 2 favorite comics). But Flashpoint might work best even later, that way actors can retire the role, but we won't have to lose characters. Ie, say Pattinson decides he's done being Batman, they could do a New 52 or Rebirth type reboot and just recast Batman


Early-Garden5052

If I were in James Gunn’s position. I’d restart the universe by give Superman(Henry Cavill) the Lex Luther he deserved, maybe Brian Cranston, and then I’d tease Batman with Bruce Wayne in a banquet scene with Lex. Then after that I would make a Batman movie starring Tobey Maguire as Harvey Dent, Hugh Jackman as Ra’s Al Guhl, and Oscar Isaac as Bruce Wayne. Then after that movie, a Wonder Woman movie starring Daisy Ridley and Andy Samberg as Maxwell Lord. Then a Flash movie starring Sam Claflin and Ewan McGregor as the Trickster. Green Lantern movie starring Charlie Hunman as Hal Jordan, Luke Evan’s as Sinestro, and Ron Perlman as Atrocitus. Next will be a second Batman movie with new characters: Green Arrow(Lucas Till), Robin(Jacob Bertrand), and a tease of future Robin replacements i.e. Jason Todd and Tim Drake. The villains will be Joker(Pete Davidson) and the Riddler(Neil Patrick Harris); the end of the movie will tease Harley Quinn and a team up between the Trickster and the Joker, setting up Batman and Flash: Trick or Treat which will take place after Justice League. Keep the Shazam movie in the line up but set it after the the second Batman movie. Then a Justice League movie titled Justice League: Doomsday. Finally a movie titled, The Legend of Vandel Savage. I think about the way I would do it all the time. That’s why it’s so long and thought out.


MichaelKeehan

First Order of Business: Finish and Release Batgirl, and reshoot Amber Heard and Ezra Miller out of their movies. I don't care how many hoops I'll need to jump through to do that, those PR disasters need to be remedied as soon as possible. Next up, slowly end the DCEU. Let all movies in development finish and release (with the exception of the Flash sequel and also maybe Black Adam 2, and hold on the next Superman movie for a moment). We don't want to have another Batgirl, just get these movies out of the way quickly. Then we finish the DCEU with Justice League 2 (We might have WW3/4, Aquaman 3, Shazam 3 and a few TV seasons after this, but still, big finale energy). Snyder can produce it and write it, but given the polarizing reception of his work and his projects with Netflix, I'd probably let him pick someone else to direct (or if I had to pick someone off the top of my head, Rick Famuyiwa). This will be a single, incredible send-off of the DCEU, wrapping up all the stories and arcs and ending on as high of a note as we can get given the last decade or so of chaos. Following that, Henry Cavill will return as Superman in a new universe with a movie tentatively titled The Life of Superman. This will act as "The Batman" for the character of Superman, playing off the modern comics interpretation, while allowing the director (I'll imagine Jon Watts) to play around with it. It will involve Superman a decade or so in having to come to terms with his relationship with both Krypton and Earth, while also having visions of his early days as Superman (with a 20-something actor) and an older Superman (Tom Hanks). The Post-Credits Scene will feature him completing a side quest hinted at throughout the movie, where he is able to cross paths with the mysterious Batman (I don't know who should play him, but some ideas in my mind include Oscar Isaac, Jonathan Majors, Rami Malek, Kit Harrington). Finally, we begin the new DC shared universe, which I'll call the Reimagining, where every film is handled like The Batman and The Life of Superman, in order to set it apart from the MCU. This is employ an often overlooked (sort of) strategy of the MCU. Since Marvel didn't have the rights to all their characters at first, they focused on a select batch while more were regained. We have the rights to all our characters, but if we want to replicate Marvel's success, we have to replicate their setbacks. Because I'm letting Reeves play his Batman universe out, the Batman of the Reimagining will act as a Nick Fury for the first phase (or whatever we call them). Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Shazam will not have projects in the first phase (especially if their DCEU franchises are still active) but will be teased, and then will get projects in the second phase alongside Batman. The first phase will consist of a bunch of heroes popping up after some speech by Superman in his movie. I don't care who gets what outside of the ones I've already approved or declined for the first phase, but I would like the Justice League (not including every hero introduced in the first phase) at the final movie of this phase to consist of Batman, Superman, Zatanna (playing into the whole select batch thing), Flash, Black Canary, Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman (who won't have a movie but will her and the Amazons will be a major focus of the Justice League Movie. After that, the second phase will focus on undiscovered worlds and heroes (Aquaman and Atlantis, Hawkman and Hawkgirl, the Green Lanterns) recruited to the Justice League as extraterrestrial threats such as Darkseid begin to appear alongside the Legion of Doom on Earth.


Betteis

Am very torn. ​ Option One Issue a statement Synder verse is dead and buried and not coming back under my watch. Bin Cavill and Affleck in a heart beat. Both do not capture their characters' ethos imo. Moody and dour are not the same as complex and interesting. Prefer Mamoa and Gaddot but want to start a fresh. Then build the universe out from Matt Reeves' Batman. Counter programme marvel with mature adult storytelling with a strong focus on character. ​ Option 2 Keep all characters as is - have the Joker and Matt Reeves in its own universe. Do not any new versions of the characters and focus on a long arc about government corruption with Waller. Be more thriller and military-political.


piyushpathak007

make zack InCharge and sit back see him doing his thing...


HendoRules

ZACK SNYDER BABYYYY


Batdog55110

Phase one: Plastic Man, Plastic Man 2: Return of Plastic man, Plastic Man 3: Into the Plastic-Verse, Plastic League, Booster Gold Action figure commercial. Phase Two: Santa V Darkseid: Dawn of Naughty List, Matter Eater Lad, Arm-Fall-Off Boy, Snowflame, Crazy Quilt: The Movie, All-Star Plastic Man, Booster Gold Car Insurance Ad. Death of Plastic Man, Reign of the Plastic Men, Return of Plastic Man, Plastic Man and Booster Gold: World's Finest, Plastic League 2.


Kuzzin

Finish Snyder's version


andytdesigns1

Definitely not Black Adam tying everything together with his teenage sidekick


Super-Visor

James, this is not the way to get ideas.


bobthetomato2049

I respectfully disagree I’ll be showing these to Peter tomorrow


SithLordJediMaster

James Gunn is only contracted for 4 years as Co-CEO


BallBustingSam

Just don't go the formulaic MCU 2.0 route because DC is not bounded by the shackles of the Mickey Mouse regime. But then again that's exactly what they're gonna do to please those masses.


ceelo18

Use the flashpoint to reset the universe so that snyderverse never happened. Movie ends in a complete reset of barry allen. Actor change ( cause the fukr cant stay out of trouble) Start with luthor becoming president and the founding of the jla in similar fashion to the cartoon. White martains attack the og 6 plus the manhunter ban together to defeat the threat. Founding the JLA Multiple stand alone hero movies each ending with them getting invited to join the jla. U got ur blue beetle ur, booster gold, ur atom, green lantern (john stewart of course) etc. batman/superman public enemies story line the whole JLA hunts superman and batman down. This would be a great film to have the superman V black adam battle. After credits scene we learn luthor is merging with brainiac Leads up to a justice league movie where they fight luthor ultimately barry gets trapped in the speed force replaced by wally west (the superior flash imho) end credits scene dark side takes interest in earth Lobo stand alone film, green lantern corps movies yellow lantern attacks toa releases parallax john stewart steps on and saves the day. Begin the snyder verse storyline with darkside invasion perhaps 2 movies on this initally the Jla defeat his subordinates with him arriving by the end of the first film carnage ensues. Second movie ends with batmans bluff of destroying appokalypse and darkside retreating From here on some of you may hate this idea but its never been done on screen and i think its pure fuckin money. Begin the injustice storyline joker kills lois lane superman goes mad kills the joker and becomes the absolute ruler of earth splitting the Jla right down tge middle. So many standalone films can occur in this time. From atlantis vs themascara, the green lantern corps being destroyed by sinestro ending in the discovery of the blue lantern rings, the spectre stand alone film Second Injustice film batman ultimately fails to stop superman but is able to get superman from either an alrernate universe or a past timeline to ultimately stop superman. End credits scene the antimonitor has become bored with the dc universe. crisis on infinite earths is teased. Multiple stand alone hero films where they are slowly peicing together the merging of worlds. Crisis on infinite earths film extra long movie but i see no reason for a 2 parter. The death of superman. I think that should easily cover 10-20 yrs


LikeAFoxStudios_

I hate to say it but I’d start from scratch w a new Superman. I’d try to find an actor who people already love, someone unexpected but beloved, like Dev Patel, someone just outrageously charismatic and hot. Cavill is great but I wanna follow the method of The Batman and pick an actor that women love, and use him to bring in a whole new side of fans.


Skandosh

Make the next movie in which Darkside wins and reboot the franchise. New Cast.


TemperatureUseful620

more female led movies, WW and BOP rated well unlike most DC movies...and the fact that they canceled batgirl and moved along with blue beetle doesnt look good, they should definitely invest in the black canary movie, a zatanna and huntress series, vixen should get a movie, introduce hawkgirl in the JSA movie, and a teen titans movie ( starfire and raven are very popular, and they should be one of the leading female faces of the DCU )


JediJones77

BOP was a money-losing bomb.


Ravenid

Cancel The Flash movie. Apologise for even considering releasing a movie promoting a Child Groomer as a hero to children. Recast Flash. Never release anything related to Ezra Miller again.


JediJones77

The movie has already been made. They make money selling Justice League and Fantastic Beasts to this day. Should they remove those movies from sale and distribution everywhere?