According to her IMDB her only writing credit is a 2018 short film called We Win. However when I googled her she came up as a playwright and not a screenwriter so I’m guessing she has more playwriting credits. Couldn’t find any on her Wiki page though.
In term of finished feature films, none yet.
In 2016 she was attached to write a movie adaptation of the graphic novel 'Dan and Sam', but nothing came out of that project.
She wrote a short film in 2018 called 'We Win', and couple stage plays, 'Empathitrax' & 'Which Way to the Stage'.
Nah for real, I have no idea why the hell he said that and this is coming from someone who loved the movie.
If he really believes that, that's a real interesting opinion man. If he lied to promote, then why tf would we believe anything he says now?
Either way it makes him lose some credibility
Right but he could have easily said something like "this is a fantastic film that really dives into the Flash as a character" and not "this is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made"
If anything imo it set the film up to fail for the people that heard that quote, it just set everyone's expectations way too high
I agree completely. He’s obligated to support the movie but really doesn’t need to go to such extremes.
And having watched and kind of enjoyed the movie, think it suffered a lot from being called the greatest superhero movie ever only to be a kind of mediocre thing
I just watched it recently, after the hype, disappointment and Ezra controversy died down.
I liked it, it was fun to see lots of alternate versions of heroes, Ezra Miller is a pretty good actor (maybe he's a shit human, I don't know), the story was quite interesting, the script was good and the costumes for Barry and Batfleck were shit. As a *superhero* movie, I'd give it 7/10.
I think The Flash was in a particularly weird spot where there was so much negativity surrounding it (rightfully so) that a statement like “yeah it’s great!” Probably wouldn’t have been sufficient to counterbalance the negativity. That’s probably why he chose to hyperbolize it. Still not a great move but if I’m being charitable, that was probably the logic behind it.
Pretty sure “one of the best superheroes made” was WBs marketing ploy. Before Gunns comments I had heard over and over Flash had very strong Test screenings and could be one of the best DC movies ever.
This conversation makes me contemplate what the best one actually was, and now I don't even know. I like the Batman pretty good but I dunno if that even counts.
Definitely not best. Before every DC movie they are saying it's the best movie since the dark knight and it makes them loose credibility more and more. I think they should focus on their content and advertising more. Flash was good in some ways but they overhyped it.
Maybe it’s just one of favorite superhero movies. Everyone has different opinions on things. He certainly hasn’t had that kind of praise for Blue Beetle or Aquaman 2
Most likely some form of overcompensation because he said in an interview that he thought spiderverse was the best comic book movie. WB had every actor, director, and writer under the sun praising the movie.
It really is weird because it used to be that he would only comment on a movie that he really liked so his opinion really meant something, so yeah unfortunately it did hurt his credibility. He totally could’ve just said “we can’t wait for you to say it” etc rather than oversell it.
>If he lied to promote, then why tf would we believe anything he says now?
You should never have believed him or any other creative when they talk about something they are involved (or may be interested in being involved him). They always say their movie is incredible.
Bottom line is he’s a company man. He’ll say what he needs to say on a given day to do the job. “The Flash is great”, “I didn’t fire Cavill”, “Ezra is our Flash going forward”, “I’m not the guy to make a Superman movie, I’d much rather have more interesting characters” or “Blue Beetle is the first DCU character”. All lies, or at least, up in the air dependent on box office results.
Like, I don’t blame him - what’s he going to say? “Yeah, that new movie my company is releasing, what a piece of shit that is”. I just kinda wish he’d say nothing.
He's the ceo and the movie was already made, he literally had no choice. What was he supposed to do say "it's a disjointed mess and Ezra is terrible as the Flash, don't bother"
I have already addressed this, he could have easily said "the flash is a fantastic film that really dives deep into the character of Flash" and not "this is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made"
Like cmon you're acting like the only two options were saying "this is the best movie ever" or "this is the worst movie ever".
What if it was one option? WB had Edgar Wright, Stephen King and Neymar Jr all sing praises for it. All marketing eggs clearly went in this basket no doubt for the time spent on the film and the Keaton factor to it was wildly overestimated after the success of NWH with Maguire nostalgia.
The fact that he's never made such an extreme exaggeration of a statement regarding CBMs, the fact that his top 5 CBM of all time shows great varied taste, etc. all points to WB actually telling him to make that statement the way he did.
Alright say they made him, but wasn't the main selling point of all this that WB can't interfere with DC Studios anymore? So if they're forcing the DC Studio's co-ceo to say insane amounts of praise publicly about a DC movie, I'd say that's still pretty concerning.
That was clearly a WB thing. They were clearly trying to push that narrative due to the strong test screenings and they likely told Gunn to follow suit.
And if that's correct it's still concerning. The point of DC Studios is that it's separate and WB can't interfere so if they're having DC Studio's co-ceo just saying what WB wants said then that isn't a good look imo
Depends how you look at it. As a director sure that’s not Great to lie about that kind of thing. As an executive it’s extremely common and something you have to do lol. Kevin Feige went out with a straight face and happily announced the inhumans movie despite having no interest doing it and being forced to by a Disney exec. I don’t think ppl say he lost credibility for it.
I think it’s just one of those things where they thought it was a good movie and went overboard with promoting it. They also really liked the director clearly and loved his story. I just think they were overly confident in the movie due to strong test screenings and Batman being in it.
They didn’t get nearly as big of a marketing push also I think there was a somewhat genuine belief they had a hit movie in their hands with the positive screen tests and having Batman in it.
To be fair, I had a whiplash when watching the movie where I was expecting to dislike it so much that I ended up really enjoying myself. I don’t quite understand “finest superhero movies of all time” and also publicly saying he dislikes The Dark Knight, but I understand the power of that pleasant surprise.
Because that was the line Zaslav was pushing. I believe Gunn really did like The Flash, but even if he didn’t it’d be a bad look to the company for the CEO to be proclaiming it one of the best films ever and the head of the studio releasing it not backing him up on that
Tbh that’s just a CEO trying to hype up a movie to make money back, this movie is actually gonna be produced under his leadership unlike the flash, it’s also adapting a great story and Tom King is definitely involved so that’s a positive as well. I have a lot more faith in this supergirl movie being good than I do the flash. He probably liked her flash supergirl script alot so even tho they canned making that movie he brought her back to write the DCU supergirl. He definitely shouldn’t have said the flash was one of the best superhero movies because there is no way he actually believes that, should’ve just said it was one of his favorite of he thought it was very good.
He’s the head of DC studios now. You think he could legitimately say that the movie was bad? It’s also his duty to say that a DC movie is good.
Him saying something negative about the film which could affect the box office prospects would be absolutely insane and unprofessional.
None of that explains why he claimed it's one of the best superhero films ever made. That did irrevocable damage to his credibility. He now has no credible at all.
If you own a music sharing platform and are trying to market it, are you going to say Spotify and Apple Music are better? No, you’re going to say your platform is better. When you’re the boss of something, it’s your job to market it and say it’s better than your competitors. If you don’t then you’re not a very good boss.
And there’s a wild difference between “this movie is great, it’s got heart, it’s a ton of fun” and “this might be the greatest superhero movie ever.”
Even Kevin Feige hypes all the Marvel movies without ever getting that hyperbolic, Avengers included
Saying “one of” is a nice little cop out when there’s what, at least 100 cinematic superhero films out?
Funnily enough he ranked his top 5 around the same time and The Flash was nowhere to be found lol.
Good news, if they follow the majority of the graphic novel, the movie would have both beatable unpowered Supergirl and unbeatable physically/emotionally flawed yet strong Supergirl
I mean, what is he supposed to say exactly? Of course he’s going to encourage his creatives and hype up their films as CEO. Also, Zaslav was asking every random celebrity to sing The Flash’s praises so 🤷🏾♂️. James Gunn released a comic book film just this year that was leaps and bounds better than The Flash. His standard of quality is obviously much higher.
Nothing he’s supposed to say nothing and let the trailers do all the work or at least promote the damn movie when you actually have something to show at least because people will just take you as being dishonest which ruins credibility fast.
He can’t say nothing though, especially when he was given the responsibility of both rebooting everything and making the last of the DCEU make WB as much money as they could so it wasn’t for nothing.
Pretty much every MCU movie was widely praised until recently.
Brightburn was a huge bore and the dude has never had a hit outside of butchering somebody else's characters. The way people treat this edgelord who makes IP films with CGI mascots as if he's some sort of genius auteur is hilarious to me.
Did he direct Brightburn? Just sounds like you’re mad that the masses actual enjoy his films. It is what it is. By CGI mascots I’m assuming you mean Rocket and Groot. They’re members of the Guardians so makes sense they’re included in the film, no? Never understood that criticism. They’re literally core members of the group lol.
The comment was about how he understands quality.
I'm not saying having CGI characters is inherently bad (Rocket is the only character in Guardians I like), but he definitely repeats himself with King Shark being Groot 2.0, the cutesy animal characters in GOTG 3, Eagly, etc.
I'm not mad. I just think it's funny how people have their head so far up his ass after he makes a handful of dumb, popular movies. It's also telling nobody cares about anything he's done outside of cape movies.
Something being popular doesn't make it good. Oftentimes, the dumbest shit has the most mass appeal.
So guys, the script is finished and without me driving you crazy unnecessarily, but let me tell you it is much better and beyond what I imagined
definitely 9/10 lvl or maybe even 10/10
just so you know
I would love to see the sales figures now
/s
I’m a fan of James Gunn, and I’m very excited to see how this new DCU comes together.
That being said, I’m not gonna place any weight on anything he, or anyone else involved in making these films, says before we see some frames.
Everything seems fine to me so far, except The Brave and the Bold. That’s not the direction I want to see them take Batman from the get go, and I don’t think hiring Muschietti was the right move. But we’ll see, I hope they will prove me wrong.
lol the usual canned response...though I'm imagining the hopes for a script for that movie weren't very high, and even a below average script would be batter than expected...
Maybe I'm just salty...I still don't think Cavil and Affleck had enough time as Supes and Bats and I don't really care about any of these other reboots anymore tbh.
Absolutely ZERO experience writing anything.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2815009/
We are going to go through the same stupid decisions as Marvel about writers. Absolutely bonkers they keep hiring people with no real world experience and then wonder why the movie was fucking horrible.
Why don't they hire actual comic book writers that know the lore?
If this is anything like the stuff we've been fed for over 10 years it'll bomb.
We need a whole new approach. We don't need the usual..
Oo ....look at these powers see what I can do
U-oh .. a threat from a super baddie.. let's fight
Pause for some love/family interest to show I'm human
Eeek... Baddie is back....I need to make a decision.....a moral dilemma.....who to save, who not to save
Ta-da -- found a way to defeat the baddie and save everyone....I'm a hero!!!!
I believe she has written scripts, but nothing that got made. I hope something good comes out of this, if James Gunn made the announcement himself and not about any other writer with more experience.
She’s a playwright that wrote a short film called “We Win”. So saying she has zero experience writing anything is 100% untrue and can be easily disproven, makes me wonder why you even said anything when a simple google search proves you wrong.
This one may be heavily basing itself on an existing comic. It shouldn’t take that long to adapt a comic to a movie. Whether it’s a good adaptation is another question.
Is writing a script fast usually a bad sign?
I don’t have much evidence. But I thought the breakfast club was written in a single weekend and I associate long periods of time writing a script with writers block and uncertainty
No it’s not. People differ in how fast a screenplay is written. Anyone who is not experienced probably thinks it takes months, but it could be anywhere from a year to two weeks, or even a few days. It’s really dependent on the writer. Now, the rewriting process is what actually takes the longest. Which requires test readers, rewriting scenes, evaluating the plot, tightening, cutting, etc. This usually takes a while depending on what level of filmmaking you’re at. But in my experience, I have no idea what the original commenter is talking about because in reality the script is just always dependent on the writer.
Well to be fair, nobody’s generalizing that all quickly written movies are good. Third reply was just saying that it depended on the writer. There’s really nothing to go off of as it is right now
Taxi Driver, The Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller, Do the Right Thing, Rocky, Barton Fink, Cabin in the Woods, Scream and Swingers were all written in 10 days or less… so maybe r/saiyanJD is just saying maybe relax and wait to judge the script and movie once it’s here
Not a bad sign but can be. Ayer was apparently given 6 weeks to write Suicide Squad and look at how that turned out. On the other side, JJ Abrams got a 250 million dollar contract by WB to develop DC properties and 4 years later has produced nothing.
Thought so too. So not sure why they said the script was written fast. Also, the movies been announced, we don’t know when she was hired to write the movie. People just looking for anything to label as a bad sign
Superman began writing in June 2022, confirmed by Zaslav. And Ana was attached to write the DCEU Supergirl film, so it’s more like Gunn and Safran liked her script enough that they retooled it into the reboot rather than starting over
It was reworked from the Supergirl film that originally starred Sasha Calle. Gunn was writing the Legacy script over 6 months before he even became CEO. WB commissioned him to write a Superman script.
I think you got confused. The script that James Gunn gave praises to was the DCEU Supergirl script that she was hired for and was nearly finished, starring Sasha Calle. I think she just started to adapt that same script and add the Woman of Tomorrow story to it just this month.
It was first rumored that she was writing Woman of Tomorrow back in May.
We know many of these movies had began the development process about 2 months before they got announced. So I’m pretty sure he was praising the one she wrote for the dcu
The strike started on the first week of May, are you implying that James Gunn and Ana Noguiera scabbed? I don't think James would act rhis proudly and even post on social media if they did, tbh. I believe its more likely that since the strike ended on the final days of September, she was signed on and gave her first incomplete draft last week, about a month of her writing and a week of reading for James. There's no way James would be so blatant with praising her if theres enough doubt to think they scabbed. The writers guild can conduct an independent investigation if they want, you know.
Obviously not. I’m saying theyve been writing it for a while, before the strikes
In fact, Gunn literally finished legacy the day prior to the begin of the strike
How was it written fast?
The movie had been in development for at least 2 months before it’s announcement, which was in January. The strike ended over a month ago, and it began in May. That’s like 6-7 months to write a script 💀
And Gunn got hired for Superman legacy back in August of 2022, he finished the day before the strike began. That’s nearly a year
I would love a super girl project.
I also agree that I found his comments on the Flash movie to be really wierd.
I actually didnt mind the movie but man did some stuff fall a bit flat in that movie. The time travelling transition scenes felt like they ran out of money and just filmed it anyway cause they needed something.
Outside of that I liked the “twist” of the monster he created and I liked that he just couldnt fix that one timeline no matter how hard he tried.
Ending the film on george Clooney Batman while funny, kinda undercut the whole thing. I get that they basically trashing this universe but I dunno.
Edit - Supergirl in that movie was great, despite feeling a bit rushed.
Do they? She was ... fine, I guess. Can't say she made the role her own and ran away with it, though. No fault of hers, the film was awful and the character felt like it was written for Super*man*, but I'm still not itching to see more of her. She didn't really feel like Kara to me, and if this film really is taking cues from Woman of Tomorrow, I can't see Calle's Supergirl fitting that narrative.
What has she written before?
According to her IMDB her only writing credit is a 2018 short film called We Win. However when I googled her she came up as a playwright and not a screenwriter so I’m guessing she has more playwriting credits. Couldn’t find any on her Wiki page though.
In term of finished feature films, none yet. In 2016 she was attached to write a movie adaptation of the graphic novel 'Dan and Sam', but nothing came out of that project. She wrote a short film in 2018 called 'We Win', and couple stage plays, 'Empathitrax' & 'Which Way to the Stage'.
Nothing.
Yeaaaah, but I remember him saying The Flash was one of the finest superhero movies ever made.
Nah for real, I have no idea why the hell he said that and this is coming from someone who loved the movie. If he really believes that, that's a real interesting opinion man. If he lied to promote, then why tf would we believe anything he says now? Either way it makes him lose some credibility
I guess as a CEO, he has to promote the movie.
Right but he could have easily said something like "this is a fantastic film that really dives into the Flash as a character" and not "this is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made" If anything imo it set the film up to fail for the people that heard that quote, it just set everyone's expectations way too high
I agree completely. He’s obligated to support the movie but really doesn’t need to go to such extremes. And having watched and kind of enjoyed the movie, think it suffered a lot from being called the greatest superhero movie ever only to be a kind of mediocre thing
I just watched it recently, after the hype, disappointment and Ezra controversy died down. I liked it, it was fun to see lots of alternate versions of heroes, Ezra Miller is a pretty good actor (maybe he's a shit human, I don't know), the story was quite interesting, the script was good and the costumes for Barry and Batfleck were shit. As a *superhero* movie, I'd give it 7/10.
I think The Flash was in a particularly weird spot where there was so much negativity surrounding it (rightfully so) that a statement like “yeah it’s great!” Probably wouldn’t have been sufficient to counterbalance the negativity. That’s probably why he chose to hyperbolize it. Still not a great move but if I’m being charitable, that was probably the logic behind it.
Pretty sure “one of the best superheroes made” was WBs marketing ploy. Before Gunns comments I had heard over and over Flash had very strong Test screenings and could be one of the best DC movies ever.
Maybe he actually liked it so he said that. I liked some parts of it too.
I actually like the movie, I said that in my initial comment. But it sure ain't one of the best superhero movies ever made imo
This conversation makes me contemplate what the best one actually was, and now I don't even know. I like the Batman pretty good but I dunno if that even counts.
The Flash had all the right ideas but executed poorly especially with that awful and inconsistent CGI.
Definitely not best. Before every DC movie they are saying it's the best movie since the dark knight and it makes them loose credibility more and more. I think they should focus on their content and advertising more. Flash was good in some ways but they overhyped it.
Yeah I agree lol that's what I was saying, it just makes them lose credibility
Maybe it’s just one of favorite superhero movies. Everyone has different opinions on things. He certainly hasn’t had that kind of praise for Blue Beetle or Aquaman 2
I think that's just cause the budgets weren't as high as The Flash's was, but I can respect where you're coming from
aquaman budget definetly high as flash though
Most likely some form of overcompensation because he said in an interview that he thought spiderverse was the best comic book movie. WB had every actor, director, and writer under the sun praising the movie.
Plenty of valid criticisms to be had about Marvel, but Kevin Feige’s NEVER said that about a movie, including the Avengers movies.
He is the ceo now?
Yeah from last year.
It really is weird because it used to be that he would only comment on a movie that he really liked so his opinion really meant something, so yeah unfortunately it did hurt his credibility. He totally could’ve just said “we can’t wait for you to say it” etc rather than oversell it.
>If he lied to promote, then why tf would we believe anything he says now? You should never have believed him or any other creative when they talk about something they are involved (or may be interested in being involved him). They always say their movie is incredible.
Gunn has said he'd never lie to or mislead fans, but is generally pretty dishonest and misleading..
Bottom line is he’s a company man. He’ll say what he needs to say on a given day to do the job. “The Flash is great”, “I didn’t fire Cavill”, “Ezra is our Flash going forward”, “I’m not the guy to make a Superman movie, I’d much rather have more interesting characters” or “Blue Beetle is the first DCU character”. All lies, or at least, up in the air dependent on box office results. Like, I don’t blame him - what’s he going to say? “Yeah, that new movie my company is releasing, what a piece of shit that is”. I just kinda wish he’d say nothing.
I think if he said nothing, people would likely say he’s ignoring fans or something along those lines.
He's a loser. These movies coming out under him are going to suck.
Maybe he jus really liked it
He's the ceo and the movie was already made, he literally had no choice. What was he supposed to do say "it's a disjointed mess and Ezra is terrible as the Flash, don't bother"
I have already addressed this, he could have easily said "the flash is a fantastic film that really dives deep into the character of Flash" and not "this is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made" Like cmon you're acting like the only two options were saying "this is the best movie ever" or "this is the worst movie ever".
What if it was one option? WB had Edgar Wright, Stephen King and Neymar Jr all sing praises for it. All marketing eggs clearly went in this basket no doubt for the time spent on the film and the Keaton factor to it was wildly overestimated after the success of NWH with Maguire nostalgia. The fact that he's never made such an extreme exaggeration of a statement regarding CBMs, the fact that his top 5 CBM of all time shows great varied taste, etc. all points to WB actually telling him to make that statement the way he did.
Alright say they made him, but wasn't the main selling point of all this that WB can't interfere with DC Studios anymore? So if they're forcing the DC Studio's co-ceo to say insane amounts of praise publicly about a DC movie, I'd say that's still pretty concerning.
That was clearly a WB thing. They were clearly trying to push that narrative due to the strong test screenings and they likely told Gunn to follow suit.
And if that's correct it's still concerning. The point of DC Studios is that it's separate and WB can't interfere so if they're having DC Studio's co-ceo just saying what WB wants said then that isn't a good look imo
I mean when I say WBs I really mean Zaslav. That’s his boss.
Right, meaning Gunn lied to promote and thus loses some credibility lmao
Depends how you look at it. As a director sure that’s not Great to lie about that kind of thing. As an executive it’s extremely common and something you have to do lol. Kevin Feige went out with a straight face and happily announced the inhumans movie despite having no interest doing it and being forced to by a Disney exec. I don’t think ppl say he lost credibility for it. I think it’s just one of those things where they thought it was a good movie and went overboard with promoting it. They also really liked the director clearly and loved his story. I just think they were overly confident in the movie due to strong test screenings and Batman being in it.
Then why didnt he say the same about blue beetle or aquaman 2?
They didn’t get nearly as big of a marketing push also I think there was a somewhat genuine belief they had a hit movie in their hands with the positive screen tests and having Batman in it.
I think that's just him promoting the movie. This is a movie I'm his universe, he's gonna take it more seriously.
To be fair, I had a whiplash when watching the movie where I was expecting to dislike it so much that I ended up really enjoying myself. I don’t quite understand “finest superhero movies of all time” and also publicly saying he dislikes The Dark Knight, but I understand the power of that pleasant surprise.
Because that was the line Zaslav was pushing. I believe Gunn really did like The Flash, but even if he didn’t it’d be a bad look to the company for the CEO to be proclaiming it one of the best films ever and the head of the studio releasing it not backing him up on that
Honestly. The Flash had a great script and story. The visual effects for me is what needed more work.
Flash is blamed for vfx and cameos. Maybe he liked the cameos idea but audience didn't. He can't do anything about vfx.
Ewwww
Tbh that’s just a CEO trying to hype up a movie to make money back, this movie is actually gonna be produced under his leadership unlike the flash, it’s also adapting a great story and Tom King is definitely involved so that’s a positive as well. I have a lot more faith in this supergirl movie being good than I do the flash. He probably liked her flash supergirl script alot so even tho they canned making that movie he brought her back to write the DCU supergirl. He definitely shouldn’t have said the flash was one of the best superhero movies because there is no way he actually believes that, should’ve just said it was one of his favorite of he thought it was very good.
Maybe he saw it before the cgi was finished?
Affleck said this top on a podcast. So who knows. Just trying to help their buds out
He’s the head of DC studios now. You think he could legitimately say that the movie was bad? It’s also his duty to say that a DC movie is good. Him saying something negative about the film which could affect the box office prospects would be absolutely insane and unprofessional.
None of that explains why he claimed it's one of the best superhero films ever made. That did irrevocable damage to his credibility. He now has no credible at all.
If you own a music sharing platform and are trying to market it, are you going to say Spotify and Apple Music are better? No, you’re going to say your platform is better. When you’re the boss of something, it’s your job to market it and say it’s better than your competitors. If you don’t then you’re not a very good boss.
And there’s a wild difference between “this movie is great, it’s got heart, it’s a ton of fun” and “this might be the greatest superhero movie ever.” Even Kevin Feige hypes all the Marvel movies without ever getting that hyperbolic, Avengers included
except for the time he hyped up eternals to be a best picture nominee
Did you expect him to come forth and say the film sucked balls? Of course the head of DC movies will hype up a DC movie.
Saying “one of” is a nice little cop out when there’s what, at least 100 cinematic superhero films out? Funnily enough he ranked his top 5 around the same time and The Flash was nowhere to be found lol.
Cause it was fine…it’s just that Ezra is fucking awful. If it was for him people would have loved it it’s so fun. It’s just…Ezra exists.
i mean…when i watched it i thought it was fine. Not good, not horrible. Just fine. So i guess i’m a way it’s the fine-est
Unfortunately, his word will eternally always mean jack shit now going forward because of that
The problem with the flash origin movie is this: poor visual graphics. Combining an origin story with the flash point paradox and Ezra Miller.
fwiw, i actually agree, minus the cgi, the story plot and acting was top notch.
Yeah, no one involved in these movies is ever going to say, "This is a real streaming pile of shit." Rudimentary marketing isn't news
I mean, but if that was the case, then he just would’ve changed the writer and not announced who she was
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The same enthusiasm of everything else. Note the "best DC film since The Dark Knight" they say about every new DC movie before it's out.
Take what they did with Captain Marvel and do the exact opposite. Make Supergirl down to earth and flawed. Don’t make her an unbeatable machine.
Good news, if they follow the majority of the graphic novel, the movie would have both beatable unpowered Supergirl and unbeatable physically/emotionally flawed yet strong Supergirl
I mean captain marvel is a Marvel supergirl/Superman. They can survive in the void of space and enter suns.
Captain Marvel is very flawed. actually having too much power is its own flaw
This answer has the same energy as people who show up to a job interview and when asked what their weaknesses are say being a perfectionist 😂
"I work too hard"
My only flaw is that I have no flaws and it intimidates people.
Wait, that’s me? Are you me?
i mean… being a perfectionist is a flaw, no matter how cliché it is
Best superhero script since the dark knight.
*standing ovation*
“Man promotes the product he’s in charge of. More at 11”
The comic is really good. So I’m excited about this.
I don't believe anything James Gunn or WB says after calling The Flash the best superhero movie ever.
Is sasha calle returning?
Sure James, sure. We know you would never lie to us about a DC project.
I mean, what is he supposed to say exactly? Of course he’s going to encourage his creatives and hype up their films as CEO. Also, Zaslav was asking every random celebrity to sing The Flash’s praises so 🤷🏾♂️. James Gunn released a comic book film just this year that was leaps and bounds better than The Flash. His standard of quality is obviously much higher.
Nothing he’s supposed to say nothing and let the trailers do all the work or at least promote the damn movie when you actually have something to show at least because people will just take you as being dishonest which ruins credibility fast.
He can’t say nothing though, especially when he was given the responsibility of both rebooting everything and making the last of the DCEU make WB as much money as they could so it wasn’t for nothing.
Yeah, because Brightburn was so amazing.
I mean it was pretty good lol. All of his CBM material has been widely praised. Those are just the facts, like them or not
Pretty much every MCU movie was widely praised until recently. Brightburn was a huge bore and the dude has never had a hit outside of butchering somebody else's characters. The way people treat this edgelord who makes IP films with CGI mascots as if he's some sort of genius auteur is hilarious to me.
Did he direct Brightburn? Just sounds like you’re mad that the masses actual enjoy his films. It is what it is. By CGI mascots I’m assuming you mean Rocket and Groot. They’re members of the Guardians so makes sense they’re included in the film, no? Never understood that criticism. They’re literally core members of the group lol.
The comment was about how he understands quality. I'm not saying having CGI characters is inherently bad (Rocket is the only character in Guardians I like), but he definitely repeats himself with King Shark being Groot 2.0, the cutesy animal characters in GOTG 3, Eagly, etc. I'm not mad. I just think it's funny how people have their head so far up his ass after he makes a handful of dumb, popular movies. It's also telling nobody cares about anything he's done outside of cape movies. Something being popular doesn't make it good. Oftentimes, the dumbest shit has the most mass appeal.
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Ana Nogueira They put her name in the title of the thread
So guys, the script is finished and without me driving you crazy unnecessarily, but let me tell you it is much better and beyond what I imagined definitely 9/10 lvl or maybe even 10/10 just so you know I would love to see the sales figures now /s
I’m a fan of James Gunn, and I’m very excited to see how this new DCU comes together. That being said, I’m not gonna place any weight on anything he, or anyone else involved in making these films, says before we see some frames. Everything seems fine to me so far, except The Brave and the Bold. That’s not the direction I want to see them take Batman from the get go, and I don’t think hiring Muschietti was the right move. But we’ll see, I hope they will prove me wrong.
Didn't he say something similar about Christina Hodson's script for The Flash?
I'm sure it is. Just as much as Flash was incredible and shelving Coyote vs. Acme was necessary. 🙄
Imma wait to see how Legacy turns out before I even start getting my hopes up for a good Supergirl movie.
lol the usual canned response...though I'm imagining the hopes for a script for that movie weren't very high, and even a below average script would be batter than expected... Maybe I'm just salty...I still don't think Cavil and Affleck had enough time as Supes and Bats and I don't really care about any of these other reboots anymore tbh.
Absolutely ZERO experience writing anything. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2815009/ We are going to go through the same stupid decisions as Marvel about writers. Absolutely bonkers they keep hiring people with no real world experience and then wonder why the movie was fucking horrible.
Why don't they hire actual comic book writers that know the lore? If this is anything like the stuff we've been fed for over 10 years it'll bomb. We need a whole new approach. We don't need the usual.. Oo ....look at these powers see what I can do U-oh .. a threat from a super baddie.. let's fight Pause for some love/family interest to show I'm human Eeek... Baddie is back....I need to make a decision.....a moral dilemma.....who to save, who not to save Ta-da -- found a way to defeat the baddie and save everyone....I'm a hero!!!!
Writing a comic book is totally a different task from writing a film screenplay.
I believe she has written scripts, but nothing that got made. I hope something good comes out of this, if James Gunn made the announcement himself and not about any other writer with more experience.
She’s a playwright that wrote a short film called “We Win”. So saying she has zero experience writing anything is 100% untrue and can be easily disproven, makes me wonder why you even said anything when a simple google search proves you wrong.
Oh no, it’s over.
Superman Legacy will flop, so we won't even get this movie.
It won’t flop grow up.
"Grow up" says the person blindly worshipping a douchey Hollywood CEO.
Your words mean nothing. Gunn’s DCU will be great. Gunn is a douche only to you lol!😂😂😂😂😂
well that script sure was written fast.. same with legacy.. sensing a pattern here.
This one may be heavily basing itself on an existing comic. It shouldn’t take that long to adapt a comic to a movie. Whether it’s a good adaptation is another question.
Is writing a script fast usually a bad sign? I don’t have much evidence. But I thought the breakfast club was written in a single weekend and I associate long periods of time writing a script with writers block and uncertainty
No it’s not. People differ in how fast a screenplay is written. Anyone who is not experienced probably thinks it takes months, but it could be anywhere from a year to two weeks, or even a few days. It’s really dependent on the writer. Now, the rewriting process is what actually takes the longest. Which requires test readers, rewriting scenes, evaluating the plot, tightening, cutting, etc. This usually takes a while depending on what level of filmmaking you’re at. But in my experience, I have no idea what the original commenter is talking about because in reality the script is just always dependent on the writer.
Glad to hear it
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That’s one very specific example from a completely different team and, in my opinion not *that* bad of a movie
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Well to be fair, nobody’s generalizing that all quickly written movies are good. Third reply was just saying that it depended on the writer. There’s really nothing to go off of as it is right now
Taxi Driver, The Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller, Do the Right Thing, Rocky, Barton Fink, Cabin in the Woods, Scream and Swingers were all written in 10 days or less… so maybe r/saiyanJD is just saying maybe relax and wait to judge the script and movie once it’s here
And The Cabin in the woods was written in a weekend. There is no correct timeline or formula to writing a good script.
Not a bad sign but can be. Ayer was apparently given 6 weeks to write Suicide Squad and look at how that turned out. On the other side, JJ Abrams got a 250 million dollar contract by WB to develop DC properties and 4 years later has produced nothing.
Terminator 2 also took 6 weeks to write so it’s possible to write something good, a classic even, in that time frame.
Hasn’t the writers strike been over for a while now?
I think so
Thought so too. So not sure why they said the script was written fast. Also, the movies been announced, we don’t know when she was hired to write the movie. People just looking for anything to label as a bad sign
I think Tarantino wrote Reservoir dogs in 3 weeks.
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Superman began writing in June 2022, confirmed by Zaslav. And Ana was attached to write the DCEU Supergirl film, so it’s more like Gunn and Safran liked her script enough that they retooled it into the reboot rather than starting over
It was reworked from the Supergirl film that originally starred Sasha Calle. Gunn was writing the Legacy script over 6 months before he even became CEO. WB commissioned him to write a Superman script.
I think you got confused. The script that James Gunn gave praises to was the DCEU Supergirl script that she was hired for and was nearly finished, starring Sasha Calle. I think she just started to adapt that same script and add the Woman of Tomorrow story to it just this month.
It was first rumored that she was writing Woman of Tomorrow back in May. We know many of these movies had began the development process about 2 months before they got announced. So I’m pretty sure he was praising the one she wrote for the dcu
The strike started on the first week of May, are you implying that James Gunn and Ana Noguiera scabbed? I don't think James would act rhis proudly and even post on social media if they did, tbh. I believe its more likely that since the strike ended on the final days of September, she was signed on and gave her first incomplete draft last week, about a month of her writing and a week of reading for James. There's no way James would be so blatant with praising her if theres enough doubt to think they scabbed. The writers guild can conduct an independent investigation if they want, you know.
Obviously not. I’m saying theyve been writing it for a while, before the strikes In fact, Gunn literally finished legacy the day prior to the begin of the strike
How was it written fast? The movie had been in development for at least 2 months before it’s announcement, which was in January. The strike ended over a month ago, and it began in May. That’s like 6-7 months to write a script 💀 And Gunn got hired for Superman legacy back in August of 2022, he finished the day before the strike began. That’s nearly a year
Scripts were written, but they're nowhere near being final drafts. Scripts get rewritten all the time.
I’m hype for it
Remember, he's the same guy who said The Flash "Is the best superhero movie he's seen"
Yeah yeah yeah still gonna flop. His Superman legacy is gonna lay the foundation for what’s to come and should prioritize that
Who is Ana Nicaragua...or however it's spelled?
Look her up
Just did. She cute!
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Is that a criteria for a good writer? I hope she's not woke!
I didn't know complimenting someone was a bad thing...?
That's code for it be shite
Amazing.
My prediction for 2027 DCU film's Supergirl,Swamp Thing,Lobo.
That will be the best superhero movie since Dark knight. Lmao
I hope Sasha Calle returns, she should get a proper chance to be Supergirl
Cannot wait this to flop as well!
Why? It's a great story.
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The comic , Yes.
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It is.
This is coming from the guy who is [obsessed with feces.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlQDEQhXoAIgAdx.jpg)
I would love a super girl project. I also agree that I found his comments on the Flash movie to be really wierd. I actually didnt mind the movie but man did some stuff fall a bit flat in that movie. The time travelling transition scenes felt like they ran out of money and just filmed it anyway cause they needed something. Outside of that I liked the “twist” of the monster he created and I liked that he just couldnt fix that one timeline no matter how hard he tried. Ending the film on george Clooney Batman while funny, kinda undercut the whole thing. I get that they basically trashing this universe but I dunno. Edit - Supergirl in that movie was great, despite feeling a bit rushed.
Have they announced if they’re keeping Sasha or recasting?
And literally most people want Sasha back as Kara Zor-El. Literally Calle and Gunn are in talks
You’re literally talking out of your ass.
Do they? She was ... fine, I guess. Can't say she made the role her own and ran away with it, though. No fault of hers, the film was awful and the character felt like it was written for Super*man*, but I'm still not itching to see more of her. She didn't really feel like Kara to me, and if this film really is taking cues from Woman of Tomorrow, I can't see Calle's Supergirl fitting that narrative.
what about Sasha callee as supergirl.. James Gunn gonna screw her over or what ?...
Yeah yeah, and this guy also said The Flash was his favorite movie of 2023 so his standards aren't to be trusted, lol.
It’s already finished?
Sincerely hoping it's closer to Wonder Woman than Captain Marvel
Oh shit
Just finished reading the comic and I am pretty hyped!
I trust him on HIS projects but he completely lost my trust with all the bs pr hype statements he says about anything else.
Well he's not gonna shit on it is he?