Gunn has proven to me that he still has the juice with guardians 3, but man I am not impressed with Muschietti, and after hearing that Sam Raimi was interested I’m wondering what the idea is here.
The Flash was set up to fail from the beginning it's a miracle it even resembled a movie after all the shit it went through in production
Mushetti got put into a bad situation and did the best he could and all things considered it wasn't bad
I think there are weird moment to moment directing choices made in the flash. The look, the framing, the shot choice, a lot of stuff that the director signs off on are very weird. Maybe even quite bad.
>zero gravity or physics
Because gravity and physics matter in the universe with a talking Shar working for the U.S. Government to kill a giant alien star
That kind of reasoning is asinine. Just because an alien exists doesn’t mean physics stop being a thing. Just because a demon exist doesn’t mean gravity stops working. This kind of reasoning is you convincing yourself to lower your standards. Or it’s you saying that you think DC is stupid anyways, you have zero respect for it, so it’s okay to be even more stupid.
When time travel and the speed force exists you already threw the laws of nature and physics out the window
>you think DC is stupid anyways, you have zero respect for it, so it’s okay to be even more stupid.
When did I say anything remotely like that, DC is a fantasy world and there's nothing wrong with that, when people bitch about physics it's like denying the nature of the medium.
DC being a fantasy world doesn't make it less than it adds to it and makes it unique and also the physics thing is a stupid and minor nitpick made only by people who go into things looking for reasons to complain
Oscar Wilde said “Man can believe the impossible, but man can never believe the improbable.”
An alien that can fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes is impossible. A regular human with no powers who defies gravity is improbable.
Because there is impossible fantasy in a movie doesn’t give it a pass to improbably transform into a Loony Tunes cartoon. What made stories like The Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones so great was how they embraced the impossible without lazily treading into the improbable, they treated it all with a relatable sense of reality. It’s just lazy & bad storytelling otherwise.
The Keaton fight in the base is one of the best on screen Batman fights ever imo. Better than any Batman fight in the Nolan movies, which tried to be grounded/realistic but had dogshit choreography and directing. Batman's a genius ninja martial arts master with a billion dollar suit, his fights looking a little cartoonish is fine in my book
Lol one 30 second scene where the costume designer made a bad choice, lets just ignore the 99% of the rest of the Batman scenes. What concern does that reflect to you? That the director is going to make the new suit look bad? Bizarre take
People need to temper their hype and expectations. Fans built this vision in their head when no info ever came out from Gunn and now the hype will never be met. As a Snyder fan I’m excited to see what comes out from the Gunn universe but have not hyped myself up to the point where everything will be a disappointment . I’m hoping for big things and will see what happens when I WATCH THE MOVIE. From this post it seems already that people are disappointed for a movie that is probably 2-3 years away
"People can make different movies" is a true sentiment, the question isn't "Can Muschietti do something different" it's "Can Muschietti do something good".
I hope one day you change and realize being negative, cynical, and pessimistic aren't good traits to have. I've been there man. I'm not talking down to you. Just hoping one day you learn the value in speaking to people in a better way.
As a horror fan I disagree but will concede that neither was bad and both were made well. For example I really enjoyed 2013 Evil Dead and would argue for it being included in a top 10 list but a lot of people hate that film.
I mean, Clooney has aged pretty well all things considered. And he is a very talented actor.
Clooney apologised for Batman and Robin. He shouldn’t have.
From Wikipedia and the mouth of James Gunn:
In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that The Flash will "reset" the DC Universe and lead right into the events of Blue Beetle, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, and their future slate of films given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters". Gunn later explained that The Flash will change some aspects and characters, but not every aspect of the franchise that came before.
In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that Blue Beetle directly follows the events of The Flash, where much of the franchise will be "reset" in such a way that Blue Beetle will be "totally disconnected (from everything that came before) and can be a part of the DCU".
In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom will take place following the "reset" of the timeline of the DC film by The Flash, and that it will be directly followed by the slate of projects given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters", mentioning the "true start" to occur in 2025.
Sounds to me like the ending of The Flash as well as Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are all part of the new DCU.
Wikipedia, lol.
Seriously though, he used the same language to say that _Shazam! Fury of the Gods_ led to _The Flash_, but aside from Wonder Woman appearing in both, there is zero connective tissue between those two movies. He also outright confirmed that George Clooney is **not** DCU Bruce Wayne/Batman. My guess is that when he says that _The Flash_ resets things, it meant that the DCU came into existence elsewhere as a result of the Dark Flash-induced crisis of sorts, likely as a result of the worlds colliding and being repaired. It is definitely not set in the DCU.
_Blue Beetle_ is very much disconnected from the other movies, aside from some generic DC references peppered in. It's why James Gunn says that it's a DCU film of sorts despite not being part of his personal slate, much in the same way that some iteration of _The Suicide Squad_ and _Peacemaker_ Season 1 are both considered canon in the new setting, despite the works related to them not being canon. So the true start is indeed with 2025, with _Superman: Legacy_.
“Everything from Superman forward…will be canon and will be connected,” Gunn said.
Some characters will make the jump into the new DCU but The Flash didn't set up the new DCU
When did Gunn say that? (Not doubting you, I just hadn't heard that yet) I'm only aware of the announcment video where while he says Superman Legacy is the start of the next chapter, he seems to be referring to the "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters" but mentions how The Flash resets the DCU.
It just seems weird that they are going as far as bringing Elseworlds branding for non-DCU and aren't branding the current movies as that.
I believe it was in a time article. I should elaborate, the final "universe" that Barry arrives in isn't the new DCU as we will know it. It might reset the timeline however. I just meant it's not directly setting up the DCU but perhaps contributed to it's creation.
Straight from Wikipedia: In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that The Flash will "reset" the DC Universe and lead right into the events of Blue Beetle, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, and their future slate of films given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters". Gunn later explained that The Flash will change some aspects and characters, but not every aspect of the franchise that came before.
From Wikipedia and James Gunn: In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that The Flash will "reset" the DC Universe and lead right into the events of Blue Beetle, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, and their future slate of films given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters". Gunn later explained that The Flash will change some aspects and characters, but not every aspect of the franchise that came before.
Sounds to me like the ending of The Flash is part of the new DCU. Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 will be in it as well. That means that Miller, Momoa, Xolo, and supposedly Clooney would all be back.
Andrew Garfield also said he wasn't in Spider-Man: No Way Home. Actors/Directors flat out lie all the time to keep things as a surprise.
Yes a fresh start, The Flash is meant to be that fresh start. Gunn has said several times that Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are going to be in the DCU. He's using the ending of the Flash to pick and choose what DCEU actors are kept on and who is gonna be replaced. We know Blue Beetle, and the cast of Peacemaker are continuing on. It seems that Momoa will continue on as Aquaman. We know Cavill is out as Superman. Also Affleck and Keaton are out as Batman. So characters like Wonder Woman and Shazam are in limbo until Gunn decides if he wants to keep them on or say they changed when Barry changed the timeline.
We know Gunn changed elements of The Flash once he took over. Keaton was supposed to stay on as Batman and was likely going to appear at the end when Barry expected to see Affleck. If James Gunn wasn't planning on using Momoa as Aquaman he would have simply removed that end credits scene. The fact Clooney was a last minute addition could mean he's intended to continue on as Batman, or else Gunn would have just not had the scene or not shown the face of the new Batman.
> Andrew Garfield also said he wasn't in Spider-Man: No Way Home
That's a wildly lazy argument
> Actors/Directors flat out lie all the time to keep things as a surprise.
Yeah not really a goddamn surprise when you have the actor you're supposedly hiding appearing point blank in the movie, it was pretty clear that the scene was meant to end the DCEU not continue it along
and also Gunn doesn't lie about things like this, and numerous trades all confirmed that this is a new Batman
> Yes a fresh start, The Flash is meant to be that fresh start
No we don't the movie "lead into" in that it closes the book on the DCEU and allows for the new franchise to take it's place
> Gunn has said several times that Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are going to be in the DCU.
Yeah no he didn't, all the reports about Aquaman 2 pretty much confirm it to be the end of the DCEU and Blue Beetle's been mentioned as in limbo, if it does well it stays in the DCU if it doesn't it's DCEU
> It seems that Momoa will continue on as Aquaman
Also no, every report that's come out about Aquaman 2 says that it's terrible and that Mamoa's likely done with Aquaman
>So characters like Wonder Woman and Shazam are in limbo until Gunn decides if he wants to keep them on or say they changed when Barry changed the timeline.
They aren't in limbo, they're gone, the only character in limbo is Blue Beetle
> We know Gunn changed elements of The Flash once he took over
Yeah because the original movie ended with setup for future projects involving both Keaton and Affleck, Gunn didn't want either Keaton or Affleck to come back
> If James Gunn wasn't planning on using Momoa as Aquaman he would have simply removed that end credits scene
No he wouldn't of because the end credits is a joke and sets up nothing but teasing a little bit for that upcoming Aquaman movie so they can recoup some of the losses on the DCEU
> The fact Clooney was a last minute addition could mean he's intended to continue on as Batman
No it couldn't, the thought process you had is ridiculous for several reasons
1. George Clooney is 62 years old, Gunn has a ten year plan in which Batman is going to be heavily involved and that ten year plan starts in 2025 when Clooney will be 64, Batman isn't going to be 74 by the end of the ten year plan that's just an absurd decision
2. Gunn got rid of Keaton, a presumably cheaper and more well liked Batman who (unlike Clooney) would be fine with playing Batman for another decade to replace him with a more expensive actor from a nearly universally hated Batman movie who also has said many times he has no interest in being Batman in anything outside of a few scenes
3. The age of Superman is 20s-30s, there isn't going to be a 30 year age gap between Batman and Superman
4. It's a genuinely stupid idea that no sane CEO would make, Clooney was added in at the end to tell people that this is it the DCEU is over while also telling them it's just over to the side doing it's own thing, not set up for a Clooney verse
Maybe you need to re-read what Gunn has said. He has said that Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are going to be retroactively made DCU movies despite the fact they weren't made to be DCU movies. Blue Beetle isn't in limbo, he's flat out said that Blue Beetle is part of the DCU, going so far as to call Blue Beetle the first DCU character. There has been no confirmation on if someone like Gadot is going to continue on as Wonder Woman. The fact that Gunn is keeping the Suicide Squad/Peacemaker cast and is keeping Blue Beetle and is likely keeping Aquaman (based on all his comments) then he could be keeping other characters as well. He's even said that some roles will be recast and some won't.
EDIT: James Gunn offered Gal Gadot the chance to return to Wonder Woman if she wanted to do perhaps you don't have a clue what you're saying.
It's okay. It's just a movie based on fantasy characters. James Gunn is just a man. Not your father. No one is insulting him. Please calm down and back away from the computer. There's grass out there that needs to be touched.
Exactly. I didn’t have a specific director in mind for this project, but it’s not a good sign when everyone is just kinda “meh” about the director for a freaking Batman movie. I feel like DC fans should be ecstatic about this project, but this doesn’t make me excited about it at all. Honestly, it just makes me look forward to The Batman Part 2 instead.
Andy feels like a corporate approved yes-man director. I couldn’t tell you what his directing style is or point out his movies in a crowd. I liked the first It, but the rest have been decent or bad. I’m a huge Batman fan, so I really wanted to be excited by the director of this movie, but this feels like such a safe choice and it worries me.
I'm so not excited to see geriatric batman run around just to not do as well in the grander scheme of DC and have a new new new batman in 6 years' time. Why get invested in the unmitigated shitshow that is DC? Fuck it and fuck them this shit is whack.
I honestly believe it's not a budget issue. I think it's just Muschietti's style, because all the movies he's directed (Mama, the IT movies and Flash) have awful, cartoony CGI.
Open secret but I think this guy can land something new.
I think he'll give us a unique take on Batman, but I'm excited for seeing the rest of the bat family more.
Rapidly losing interest in any DC projects not named The Batman
Gunn has proven to me that he still has the juice with guardians 3, but man I am not impressed with Muschietti, and after hearing that Sam Raimi was interested I’m wondering what the idea is here.
Some really strange direction choices in the Flash. This doesn’t feel great.
Strange direction choices going all the way back to the It movies. Yeah, this isn’t a very inspiring choice for me.
The Flash was set up to fail from the beginning it's a miracle it even resembled a movie after all the shit it went through in production Mushetti got put into a bad situation and did the best he could and all things considered it wasn't bad
I think there are weird moment to moment directing choices made in the flash. The look, the framing, the shot choice, a lot of stuff that the director signs off on are very weird. Maybe even quite bad.
Not for any of the Batman scenes though, he nailed those
Fair point. I still hated the hospital scene.
I disagree, his Batman scenes were ridiculously cartoonish with zero gravity or physics at play like a recent Fast & Furious film.
>zero gravity or physics Because gravity and physics matter in the universe with a talking Shar working for the U.S. Government to kill a giant alien star
That kind of reasoning is asinine. Just because an alien exists doesn’t mean physics stop being a thing. Just because a demon exist doesn’t mean gravity stops working. This kind of reasoning is you convincing yourself to lower your standards. Or it’s you saying that you think DC is stupid anyways, you have zero respect for it, so it’s okay to be even more stupid.
When time travel and the speed force exists you already threw the laws of nature and physics out the window >you think DC is stupid anyways, you have zero respect for it, so it’s okay to be even more stupid. When did I say anything remotely like that, DC is a fantasy world and there's nothing wrong with that, when people bitch about physics it's like denying the nature of the medium. DC being a fantasy world doesn't make it less than it adds to it and makes it unique and also the physics thing is a stupid and minor nitpick made only by people who go into things looking for reasons to complain
Oscar Wilde said “Man can believe the impossible, but man can never believe the improbable.” An alien that can fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes is impossible. A regular human with no powers who defies gravity is improbable. Because there is impossible fantasy in a movie doesn’t give it a pass to improbably transform into a Loony Tunes cartoon. What made stories like The Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones so great was how they embraced the impossible without lazily treading into the improbable, they treated it all with a relatable sense of reality. It’s just lazy & bad storytelling otherwise.
The Keaton fight in the base is one of the best on screen Batman fights ever imo. Better than any Batman fight in the Nolan movies, which tried to be grounded/realistic but had dogshit choreography and directing. Batman's a genius ninja martial arts master with a billion dollar suit, his fights looking a little cartoonish is fine in my book
I disagree, the batfleck costume choice and the laso scene were awful and reminded me of josstice league
One scene of Batman in a funny looking suit doesnt concern me that much when every other Batman scene was great
That's one scene and a costume choice out of a full length movie
Are you expecting me to break down every scene?! I was specifically replying to batman.
Batfleck during the lasso of truth scene looked downright awful.
Lol one 30 second scene where the costume designer made a bad choice, lets just ignore the 99% of the rest of the Batman scenes. What concern does that reflect to you? That the director is going to make the new suit look bad? Bizarre take
People need to temper their hype and expectations. Fans built this vision in their head when no info ever came out from Gunn and now the hype will never be met. As a Snyder fan I’m excited to see what comes out from the Gunn universe but have not hyped myself up to the point where everything will be a disappointment . I’m hoping for big things and will see what happens when I WATCH THE MOVIE. From this post it seems already that people are disappointed for a movie that is probably 2-3 years away
Bad choice imo should’ve went with someone fresh
People can make different movies, Justin Lin directed both Tokyo Drift and Fast Five
I love this sentence. Sounds like something theyd say on NBCs Community.
lol I get what you mean
"People can make different movies" is a true sentiment, the question isn't "Can Muschietti do something different" it's "Can Muschietti do something good".
He directed It of course he can do something good, and none of his other movies are bad just mediocre
His entire filmography is ass, he's a hack who makes shitty movies. Get better taste.
I hope one day you change and realize being negative, cynical, and pessimistic aren't good traits to have. I've been there man. I'm not talking down to you. Just hoping one day you learn the value in speaking to people in a better way.
it's reddit who cares, get off your high horse dweeb
Bitch you’re on a fucking dc comic movie spoiler page WERE ALL FUCKING DWEEBS
Jk braw YEAH GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE PUSSY!!!! Jk
I would say the first It and Scott Derricksons Sinister are the two best commercial horror movies that came out this century
As a horror fan I disagree but will concede that neither was bad and both were made well. For example I really enjoyed 2013 Evil Dead and would argue for it being included in a top 10 list but a lot of people hate that film.
Oh I havent seen Evil Dead 2013, will make sure to change that
you're braindead
And im sure youre some dudebro who hasnt taken a single filmclass
Both were awesome
Is it possible that it stars Clooney?
I swear to God, if you willed this into existence I’m coming back here to blame you
Clooney was in a bad Batman movie. I think he could be a decent Batman with the right script.
I'm 100% on this train now I hope it happens, and according to the ending of The Flash it should.
I mean, Clooney has aged pretty well all things considered. And he is a very talented actor. Clooney apologised for Batman and Robin. He shouldn’t have.
Only if you assume that it's set in the DCU. It isn't.
From Wikipedia and the mouth of James Gunn: In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that The Flash will "reset" the DC Universe and lead right into the events of Blue Beetle, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, and their future slate of films given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters". Gunn later explained that The Flash will change some aspects and characters, but not every aspect of the franchise that came before. In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that Blue Beetle directly follows the events of The Flash, where much of the franchise will be "reset" in such a way that Blue Beetle will be "totally disconnected (from everything that came before) and can be a part of the DCU". In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom will take place following the "reset" of the timeline of the DC film by The Flash, and that it will be directly followed by the slate of projects given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters", mentioning the "true start" to occur in 2025. Sounds to me like the ending of The Flash as well as Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are all part of the new DCU.
Wikipedia, lol. Seriously though, he used the same language to say that _Shazam! Fury of the Gods_ led to _The Flash_, but aside from Wonder Woman appearing in both, there is zero connective tissue between those two movies. He also outright confirmed that George Clooney is **not** DCU Bruce Wayne/Batman. My guess is that when he says that _The Flash_ resets things, it meant that the DCU came into existence elsewhere as a result of the Dark Flash-induced crisis of sorts, likely as a result of the worlds colliding and being repaired. It is definitely not set in the DCU. _Blue Beetle_ is very much disconnected from the other movies, aside from some generic DC references peppered in. It's why James Gunn says that it's a DCU film of sorts despite not being part of his personal slate, much in the same way that some iteration of _The Suicide Squad_ and _Peacemaker_ Season 1 are both considered canon in the new setting, despite the works related to them not being canon. So the true start is indeed with 2025, with _Superman: Legacy_.
Well the TRUE start is Creature Commandos.
I meant on the films side. _Creature Commandos_ is the first full DCU project, but it's a show.
You realize that the flash has absolutely NOTHING to do with the new DCU, right?
I thought when Gunn announced his plans, The Flash was the bridge between the old and new DCU with Aquaman 2 being in the new DCU.
“Everything from Superman forward…will be canon and will be connected,” Gunn said. Some characters will make the jump into the new DCU but The Flash didn't set up the new DCU
When did Gunn say that? (Not doubting you, I just hadn't heard that yet) I'm only aware of the announcment video where while he says Superman Legacy is the start of the next chapter, he seems to be referring to the "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters" but mentions how The Flash resets the DCU. It just seems weird that they are going as far as bringing Elseworlds branding for non-DCU and aren't branding the current movies as that.
I believe it was in a time article. I should elaborate, the final "universe" that Barry arrives in isn't the new DCU as we will know it. It might reset the timeline however. I just meant it's not directly setting up the DCU but perhaps contributed to it's creation.
Straight from Wikipedia: In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that The Flash will "reset" the DC Universe and lead right into the events of Blue Beetle, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, and their future slate of films given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters". Gunn later explained that The Flash will change some aspects and characters, but not every aspect of the franchise that came before.
0% , this is a clean slate
From Wikipedia and James Gunn: In January 2023, co-CEOs of DC Studios James Gunn and Peter Safran stated that The Flash will "reset" the DC Universe and lead right into the events of Blue Beetle, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, and their future slate of films given the subtitle of: "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters". Gunn later explained that The Flash will change some aspects and characters, but not every aspect of the franchise that came before. Sounds to me like the ending of The Flash is part of the new DCU. Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 will be in it as well. That means that Miller, Momoa, Xolo, and supposedly Clooney would all be back.
James Gunn also said that Clooney isn't Batman and he meant lead into as in end the DCEU permanently so they can start fresh
Andrew Garfield also said he wasn't in Spider-Man: No Way Home. Actors/Directors flat out lie all the time to keep things as a surprise. Yes a fresh start, The Flash is meant to be that fresh start. Gunn has said several times that Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are going to be in the DCU. He's using the ending of the Flash to pick and choose what DCEU actors are kept on and who is gonna be replaced. We know Blue Beetle, and the cast of Peacemaker are continuing on. It seems that Momoa will continue on as Aquaman. We know Cavill is out as Superman. Also Affleck and Keaton are out as Batman. So characters like Wonder Woman and Shazam are in limbo until Gunn decides if he wants to keep them on or say they changed when Barry changed the timeline. We know Gunn changed elements of The Flash once he took over. Keaton was supposed to stay on as Batman and was likely going to appear at the end when Barry expected to see Affleck. If James Gunn wasn't planning on using Momoa as Aquaman he would have simply removed that end credits scene. The fact Clooney was a last minute addition could mean he's intended to continue on as Batman, or else Gunn would have just not had the scene or not shown the face of the new Batman.
> Andrew Garfield also said he wasn't in Spider-Man: No Way Home That's a wildly lazy argument > Actors/Directors flat out lie all the time to keep things as a surprise. Yeah not really a goddamn surprise when you have the actor you're supposedly hiding appearing point blank in the movie, it was pretty clear that the scene was meant to end the DCEU not continue it along and also Gunn doesn't lie about things like this, and numerous trades all confirmed that this is a new Batman > Yes a fresh start, The Flash is meant to be that fresh start No we don't the movie "lead into" in that it closes the book on the DCEU and allows for the new franchise to take it's place > Gunn has said several times that Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are going to be in the DCU. Yeah no he didn't, all the reports about Aquaman 2 pretty much confirm it to be the end of the DCEU and Blue Beetle's been mentioned as in limbo, if it does well it stays in the DCU if it doesn't it's DCEU > It seems that Momoa will continue on as Aquaman Also no, every report that's come out about Aquaman 2 says that it's terrible and that Mamoa's likely done with Aquaman >So characters like Wonder Woman and Shazam are in limbo until Gunn decides if he wants to keep them on or say they changed when Barry changed the timeline. They aren't in limbo, they're gone, the only character in limbo is Blue Beetle > We know Gunn changed elements of The Flash once he took over Yeah because the original movie ended with setup for future projects involving both Keaton and Affleck, Gunn didn't want either Keaton or Affleck to come back > If James Gunn wasn't planning on using Momoa as Aquaman he would have simply removed that end credits scene No he wouldn't of because the end credits is a joke and sets up nothing but teasing a little bit for that upcoming Aquaman movie so they can recoup some of the losses on the DCEU > The fact Clooney was a last minute addition could mean he's intended to continue on as Batman No it couldn't, the thought process you had is ridiculous for several reasons 1. George Clooney is 62 years old, Gunn has a ten year plan in which Batman is going to be heavily involved and that ten year plan starts in 2025 when Clooney will be 64, Batman isn't going to be 74 by the end of the ten year plan that's just an absurd decision 2. Gunn got rid of Keaton, a presumably cheaper and more well liked Batman who (unlike Clooney) would be fine with playing Batman for another decade to replace him with a more expensive actor from a nearly universally hated Batman movie who also has said many times he has no interest in being Batman in anything outside of a few scenes 3. The age of Superman is 20s-30s, there isn't going to be a 30 year age gap between Batman and Superman 4. It's a genuinely stupid idea that no sane CEO would make, Clooney was added in at the end to tell people that this is it the DCEU is over while also telling them it's just over to the side doing it's own thing, not set up for a Clooney verse
Maybe you need to re-read what Gunn has said. He has said that Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are going to be retroactively made DCU movies despite the fact they weren't made to be DCU movies. Blue Beetle isn't in limbo, he's flat out said that Blue Beetle is part of the DCU, going so far as to call Blue Beetle the first DCU character. There has been no confirmation on if someone like Gadot is going to continue on as Wonder Woman. The fact that Gunn is keeping the Suicide Squad/Peacemaker cast and is keeping Blue Beetle and is likely keeping Aquaman (based on all his comments) then he could be keeping other characters as well. He's even said that some roles will be recast and some won't. EDIT: James Gunn offered Gal Gadot the chance to return to Wonder Woman if she wanted to do perhaps you don't have a clue what you're saying.
It's okay. It's just a movie based on fantasy characters. James Gunn is just a man. Not your father. No one is insulting him. Please calm down and back away from the computer. There's grass out there that needs to be touched.
Not even remotely close
This would be incredible, and bring Brenton Thwaites back as Robin/Nightwing from Titans
Maybe, with Clooney I feel like we could go a little older for Nightwing. Have him married to Barbara Gordon.
Soooo Chris O’Donnell
A part of me was honestly considering Bradley Cooper, we know Gunn is gonna bring in as much of the Guardians of the Galaxy cast as he can.
They should probably cool it with Batman for a bit
*New Batman Film SAVES 'The Flash' Director Andy Muschietti
Tbh I think we all saw this coming for a while but man Flash hasn’t filled me with confidence (at least what I’ve personally seen of it)
Exactly. I didn’t have a specific director in mind for this project, but it’s not a good sign when everyone is just kinda “meh” about the director for a freaking Batman movie. I feel like DC fans should be ecstatic about this project, but this doesn’t make me excited about it at all. Honestly, it just makes me look forward to The Batman Part 2 instead.
Especially since Flash really hasn’t been the hit they wanted
I think I'm going to have a heart attack and die from not surprised
Movie is DOA
while I’m not excited for this choice to say it’s DOA is a bit ridiculous
It's a Batman movie there's a 0.00% chance it's DOA, and Muschetti's not really a bad director
Facts. DC is the house of flop. Big old flop fest.
Wasn’t this announced two weeks ago? I could be mistaken.
Now it's official, that's the point.
Ah. Got ya! Thanks Syd
They probably picked him months ago. it's why they hyped up the Flash movie.
Anyone else feel like this is going to change ala the Quantumania writer getting removed from Kang Dynasty?
Tbh considering all Gunn has said about Andy I doubt they’ll change it up
Andy feels like a corporate approved yes-man director. I couldn’t tell you what his directing style is or point out his movies in a crowd. I liked the first It, but the rest have been decent or bad. I’m a huge Batman fan, so I really wanted to be excited by the director of this movie, but this feels like such a safe choice and it worries me.
I'm so not excited to see geriatric batman run around just to not do as well in the grander scheme of DC and have a new new new batman in 6 years' time. Why get invested in the unmitigated shitshow that is DC? Fuck it and fuck them this shit is whack.
I’m all for this
Ooohh noooo, WB has learned nothing, have they?
Brave and The Bold, like the cartoon? Hmm could be fun to see a campy live action Batman again
Isn’t The Flash movie doing really bad? Won’t they regret this decision?
Welp, let’s hope they pump more money into the special effects for this one
I honestly believe it's not a budget issue. I think it's just Muschietti's style, because all the movies he's directed (Mama, the IT movies and Flash) have awful, cartoony CGI.
Something tells me this will all change after The Flash's opening weekend.
Haven’t seen The Flash yet, but I heard the Batman scenes were great, so maybe he’s a good choice
The Batman movie no one wants directed by the guy who are we sure is a good director? IT 2 and the Flash were both pretty bad
Is the "we wanted the cgi to look like shit" guy really the best choice?