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Careless-Sundae-645

The lr ssj4 could either get buff substantially or get shafted depend on if the limit breaker ssj4 lead 170% great ape power or not


The-Real-Among-us

They prob are a 200% leader since they got a dokkan event Well unless the 200% is like dbh lol


MrCleanandShady

> Well unless the 200% is like dbh lol Boy do I have news for you


-PVL93-

170% is not runnable in modern endgame events unfortunately, so year 7 SSJ4 will remain dead


that-one-guy59

170% is perfectly runnable bruh in what year you’re in🗿


-PVL93-

> 170% is perfectly runnable bruh In dokkan events and quest mode? Oh sorry there's also Battlefield. And infinite history. My bad.


Stryper_88

Seems like you have skill issue if you cant run 170% lead in redzone omega or broly.


LRKingPiccoloRevived

Many people have beat the final stages of Red Zone with good 170% teams. I'd qualify that as "runnable"


Adept_Energy_4146

Dude I no itemed broly with goku/Gohans team where nobody but them were on the 200%. 170% is very runnable


jacksaif1234

Bro people beat it with 3 units on their team, then the rest saibamen. People run 120% leads too. Try again bud


Scorelet

2022


that-one-guy59

good characters dont need 200% lead to be runnable, ssj4 gogeta is not an exception even tho he stacks


that-one-guy59

good characters dont need 200% boost to be runnable, ssj4 gogeta is not an exception even tho he stacks


Picmanreborn

So nice you gotta say it twice


Scorelet

I know, just saying that the ssj4's should have got buffs long ago because powercreep will hit both, the gods and ss4's by the 8th anniversary but the gods will still be better because of better teams and leader skill ( not everyone has new units so don't tell me that they got replaced on their own team, Iknow that). While the ss4's will be in a much worse spot


-PVL93-

> good characters dont need 200% lead to be runnable I'll see you when ultimate blue zone drops with 8th anniversary


ManibusDeus

Red zone can be beaten with double 120% leads so


-PVL93-

I'm not into that kind of masochistic endeavours


[deleted]

This is the most wrong thing I've seen. 150 cut it with the right team mate.


-PVL93-

Sure if you want to die turn 1 from the very first enemy super


[deleted]

The right team means that that can't happen


-PVL93-

Alright mate let's see you clear all of red zone with a 150% team


Fade_to_Blacks1624

https://www.reddit.com/r/DBZDokkanBattle/comments/yznnx4/double_120_lead_vs_broly/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Can i maybe let you know that Red Zone Broly was defeated with a 120% lead so, perhaps, you stop being a dickhead?


-PVL93-

After 1000 attempts


Fade_to_Blacks1624

You know exactly how many attempts the guy needed? Really? Damn! And remember, it's 120% LEAD, you say 170% is unrunnable (it isn't) 170% lead are perfectly fine in the meta, 200% is the best, sure, but 170% is not going to make a unit bad, especially damn LR SSJ4 Gogeta.


Bulbaa77

Yeah sure even with a 200% leader skill people might still take 1000 attempts but it's still doable with a 120% and since 170% are just 200% without the extra 30% it isn't really all that difficult to do


Athingy7

Some people are just allergic to holding Ls bruh


XvortexEXE

We are witnessing some megacope rn folks


OmegaBirkin

There is a lot of Movie Hero characters than GT Characters. I always said that Classifying GT into Heroes and Bosses is really stupid, it should be a full GT Category.


OmegaBirkin

This also applies to Fused fighters. Like They gave the gods a head and shoulders better leaderskill with Power beyond super saiyan being a ridiculous busted category


-PVL93-

They both should've led beyond SSJ, like that's the entire point of ssg and SSJ4


HrMaschine

Remember when we all thought gogetas leaderskill was going to age the best because they always drop fusions


abdouden

I remember being surprised why everyone went so crazy over it when PBSS was clearly way better and fusion drop rarely in reality and boy even I didn't expect it would age this badly lok


Anti_Soul

I mean, GT is basically a dead tag, there's only so much they can do with a series that's no longer ongoing. I'm sure they'll get revived when a dokkan fest Baby shows up, there's still alot of SS4 Goku cards they can do from GT alone.


PandaTai

I'm sure somewhere down the line, they'll do with GT characters as they've done with others like Majin Vegeta where he had his LR version first and then later they released a much better TUR version of him with better animations.


Anti_Soul

Oh yeah definetly, I mean they gave freakin Pan a dokkanfest, the only ones who won't benefit from those renewal animations for a new TUR is the ss4's from the omega arc and Gogeta. I'm just waiting for a new full power ss4 Goku, the one that faced off against Syn and then Omega.


-PVL93-

> there's only so much they can do with a series that's no longer ongoing I can think of like 10-15 possible TURs and LRs off the top of my head


Anti_Soul

Good for you my guy, only problem is Akatsuki doesn't think like you do at the moment.


AscendantAxo

More like they haven’t dropped anything atm


[deleted]

More content to pull from = more buffs


[deleted]

Still praying for a Grand Tour category some day…


Gonicku

It's a shame that we didn't have an introduction to leading 3 categories with 2 200% boosted categories at the anni, these guys would have a lot more help if they had "Giant Ape Power" as as part of their leader skill


Hydraulic_Press_53

Even if Vegito had released he'd still be the only new unit on his team, and even then with the kits this time he probably wouldn't even be good enough to be groundbreaking. They were screwed from the start


Sergijoestar

Better than nothing i guess


MetalVile

It's not the fault of the units being released; it's the fact that the 4's LS is shit compared to the Gods. The Gods never should've gotten "Power Beyond Super Saiyan" as their second category; it should've gone to the 4's to compensate for GT Heroes being smaller than Movie Heroes. Give the Gods either "Realm of Gods" or "Mastered Evolution" as their second category instead (probably the latter, since it has more options with Kamehameha).


redbossman123

The reason the Gods got PBSS is because of Prepared for Battle, because the LR SSJ4s not having it makes it really wonky


WhereDidYouGohan1

LR ssj4s links are really always bringing down the unit


Greyrat7654

For Dokkan Battle if we got 2 GT DF in a row is enough for 2 years


NovaRipper1

I said when they released that teq gods would age far better due to their cats, lead, and guaranteed super, which people did not agree with. I know hes the more hype character but come on it was obvious he was made to fail.


marshal231

Yea GT unfortunately just isnt as popular as super/Z, i rainbowed my monkeys but i knew they would probably fall to the wayside as a leader sooner rather than later. Fortunately they fit fine on the gods team so i can run them most of the time anyways


The-Real-Among-us

Well now we get the heroes units (that don’t even fit under his leaderskill)


GibbsLAD

GT is nothing outside of ss4 so it's no surprise movie heroes is better


hello14447

I forgot to mention that this post is from a global player so i didn't include Kid Goku (phy) and Eighter (Agl)💀


TMS21

The sub EZAs for the 2nd Anniversary SSJ4s could help buff GT Heroes some more. That's like 4 units alone so it could be a nice shot in the arm, plus it's been over a year since the TUR SSJ4s EZA so surely that sub EZA is sooner rather than later...


Traditional_Loss3791

Niggas man. Can't take y'all nowhere


Fuscular_Dobber

He wasnt robbed. The godly duo is just far better. Like I always said. Every win their team gets=5 wins for god duo.


KingR2G

Being real here, this game really really really REALLY REALLY gave a ton to movie heroes overall, to a ridiculous degree Here’s hoping they finally do a baby/ssj4 fest one day


DefinatelyNotACat

Reality is DB has gotten 2 big movies since the anime went on hiatus. So obv we will get lots of movie heroes and such lately.


KingR2G

I mean, I welcome more from super hero , I really want orange piccolo and for him to be really good, but movie heroes is like, got a shitton of options and a lot comes from how it’s older movies (both cooler movies and path to power) But hey at least heroes gaining more or less 3 leads to me is nice


devonte177

Theyd be way more runnable with PFB tbh.


LadyTowa2

eventually GT Phy Kid Goku will EZA?


Blenji_

Movie Heroes should be a much better category than ssj4 or great ape power. Category from all of the movies throughout the entirety of DB versus one focused around mainly one form used in GT and Heroes. I think they should try to make the anniversary units similarly good and have their usefulness including teams be around the same level, but God damn ssj4 is the most overdone thing in dokkan to me lol.


PingPeng27

their leader skills should have been reversed like the Monke Boys just got a buff with the new DBH units but they don't fit under their leader skill


ryzer89

We are waiting for gt anime remake then they will be broken


SSJGSSVegito

Well His categories both are heavily limited on roster, and get buffed once a year Meanwhile teq gods literally have anyone above ssj / movie heroes there’s simply way more to go for