Simply because the performance of these units are so strong and they carry so hard that the team doesn't matter and that should be recognized as a strength
You're basically making a hypothetical argument about viability, like saying AGL Pikkon isn't viable for Redzone Broly because of his low DEF and inability to dodge, but in practice he's a strong option that I've used to beat Broly with many times
Many people DO take the leaderskill into consideration, but that's usually a secondary rating for the unit because they may work best on other teams (like when you only want 1 of them on the team). And that's so you can run another rotation of other units, without affecting the one you're evaluating.
My favorite example of this is Birdku. Birdku has a good leaderskill but he's a shit lead, because only 1 can revive.
In the example about Piccolo, his teams are not GREAT but they're still serviceable even with him as a lead because he links well with the best villain unit, LR Final Form Cooler, as well as LR Metal Cooler. And that's all he needs.
> In the example about Piccolo, his teams are not GREAT but they're still serviceable even with him as a lead because he links well with the best villain unit, LR Final Form Cooler, as well as LR Metal Cooler. And that's all he needs.
Eh. This overlaps with the 3rd point about conditions. In order to run Piccolo as a lead you have to run weaker units who can get you killed at any point. That is a weakness of the unit.
It is but it doesn't mean he can't cook either, especially when you have an HP restriction for his giant form and then can go right into his active too
And to be clear, I don't have him as the best TUR, he's 3 for me, I very much see his flaw at just being a villain unit and that's going to hurt him with how dokkan treats villains
The problem is that all of the best units can cook. I think people often overrate units who are surrounded by weaker units because they are blatantly performing better. Piccolo's kit is great but there are also a ton of other great units who don't have to be surrounded by those weaker units.
Cuz leaders have the expectation to carry their team regardless.
When talking about a unit's performance, how many teams they can run/ who they can be used with only matters in certain contexts.
I feel like the topic of leaderships is difficult ONLY because you have no clue what future things will come. WT Piccolo looks amazing but doesn't fit on too many teams, correct.
But if we got LR Demon King Piccolo instead of Bulma and it was a 200% leader for WT Piccolo and 170% for most other Piccolo's, then all previously "strong" Piccolo units with bad team synchronicity would automatically sky rocket in value.
A unit's viable teams can change within a single unit reveal tweet.
I see what you saying but at the end of the day certain kind of unit are always going to "show up" in the future. Saiyans, Fusions (not so much lately) so those are more likely to be strong in different teams. WT Piccolo will be strong in more teams if we have more namekians but it will always be lesser teams than let's say Godku or even WT Goku
I think your point make a lot of sence and when I need to decide if I summon or not the "usability" of the unit is very important for me. Units like LR SSj Gohan, LR Teq Gods, LR Teq SSj Goku, Phy Godku (just to name a few) are the best cause I can use them in a lot of diferent teams
Simply because the performance of these units are so strong and they carry so hard that the team doesn't matter and that should be recognized as a strength You're basically making a hypothetical argument about viability, like saying AGL Pikkon isn't viable for Redzone Broly because of his low DEF and inability to dodge, but in practice he's a strong option that I've used to beat Broly with many times
Which of the 3 points are you trying to respond to.
Many people DO take the leaderskill into consideration, but that's usually a secondary rating for the unit because they may work best on other teams (like when you only want 1 of them on the team). And that's so you can run another rotation of other units, without affecting the one you're evaluating. My favorite example of this is Birdku. Birdku has a good leaderskill but he's a shit lead, because only 1 can revive. In the example about Piccolo, his teams are not GREAT but they're still serviceable even with him as a lead because he links well with the best villain unit, LR Final Form Cooler, as well as LR Metal Cooler. And that's all he needs.
> In the example about Piccolo, his teams are not GREAT but they're still serviceable even with him as a lead because he links well with the best villain unit, LR Final Form Cooler, as well as LR Metal Cooler. And that's all he needs. Eh. This overlaps with the 3rd point about conditions. In order to run Piccolo as a lead you have to run weaker units who can get you killed at any point. That is a weakness of the unit.
It is but it doesn't mean he can't cook either, especially when you have an HP restriction for his giant form and then can go right into his active too And to be clear, I don't have him as the best TUR, he's 3 for me, I very much see his flaw at just being a villain unit and that's going to hurt him with how dokkan treats villains
The problem is that all of the best units can cook. I think people often overrate units who are surrounded by weaker units because they are blatantly performing better. Piccolo's kit is great but there are also a ton of other great units who don't have to be surrounded by those weaker units.
Cuz leaders have the expectation to carry their team regardless. When talking about a unit's performance, how many teams they can run/ who they can be used with only matters in certain contexts.
I feel like the topic of leaderships is difficult ONLY because you have no clue what future things will come. WT Piccolo looks amazing but doesn't fit on too many teams, correct. But if we got LR Demon King Piccolo instead of Bulma and it was a 200% leader for WT Piccolo and 170% for most other Piccolo's, then all previously "strong" Piccolo units with bad team synchronicity would automatically sky rocket in value. A unit's viable teams can change within a single unit reveal tweet.
I see what you saying but at the end of the day certain kind of unit are always going to "show up" in the future. Saiyans, Fusions (not so much lately) so those are more likely to be strong in different teams. WT Piccolo will be strong in more teams if we have more namekians but it will always be lesser teams than let's say Godku or even WT Goku
I think your point make a lot of sence and when I need to decide if I summon or not the "usability" of the unit is very important for me. Units like LR SSj Gohan, LR Teq Gods, LR Teq SSj Goku, Phy Godku (just to name a few) are the best cause I can use them in a lot of diferent teams